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Carlsen lost to Hammer (self.chess)

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Is this Carlsen's worst tournament since playing in super-tournaments?

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[–]Mysterymason 26ポイント27ポイント  (113子コメント)

Either that first loss affected him more than he let on or he has personal problems on his mind - there is no way he could have this bad a tournament without an external factor present. He absolutely crushed Shamkir, it's insane how differently he has played this tournament.

[–]AussieChessGuy 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably new girlfriend...

[–]wastingmylife5evr 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Is there a video of the game or something?

[–]rreyv2. Ke2 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

Dropped to 2853. Still super high but this is the first time he has gone below Kasparov's 2856 in a long time.

[–]tha_real_stabulous1700 chess.com std 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's funny because it's also the first time in a while that we have someone besides Carlsen above Kasparov's current (inactive) rating of 2812. If he came back today, he'd be 4th in the world.

[–]rreyv2. Ke2 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unless Naka wins, in which case he'll be 5th. -EDIT- Naka just won.

Also Caruana and Levon were both above 2812 for a while in late 2014.

Carlsen has been above 2856 for more than 2 years now if my memory serves me right.

[–]perpetual_motionbxa1=N# 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

A terrible game too. Really just awful. I'd feel bad about some of those moves.

[–]bjh13ICC 1151 Standard 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hammer almost looked embarrassed to take the win.

[–]JJdante 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

You could almost say.. that Carlson got...hammered .!

[–]Rather_Dashing 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

MC got hammered

[–]BadugiChamp 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

boo

[–]SuddenlyILOVEBEARDS 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

-ya!

[–]CatBernd1500 blitz on lichess - for what it's worth 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are you saying boo, or boo-urns?

[–]WilSmithBlackMambazo1667 chess.com standard 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

How much of an advantage does Hammer being Carlsen's second give him? Does he pretty much have access to all of Magnus's preparation?

[–]Astrogat 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

They did prepare together for this tournament (finding some lines to play against the other guys) and they know each other very well, but I feel like that gives both of them the same advantage. Hammer actually though it gave Carlsen the bigger advantage since he knows all of Hammers bad sides, while all Hammer know is that Carlsen doesn't have any.

[–]tobiasvl 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

while all Hammer know is that Carlsen doesn't have any.

And yet...!

[–]NtnlBrotherhoodWk650 Bullet Chess.com! 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

What's a good verb to describe what just happened to Carlsen?

[–]gad-gadaunpositional player 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just came home not having access to the Internet since before the games started.

Wth happened in this game?

[–]wastingmylife5evr 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Is there a video of the game or something?

[–]GosuMagic 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Funny how Hammer beat Carlsen but it still eludes Naka.

[–]bonoboboy 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think that is Carlsen's only saving grace this tournament.

[–]Trollsauce27 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good result.

[–]ScaryAtheist 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Carlsen played an awful game. His opening was rubbish, as commented by Topalov during the game, and towards the end he made so many mistakes (as did Hammer) the game looked like a blitz. The evaluation swung wildly between move 25 and 34.

As I said (and was duly downvoted) for in an earlier thread, Carlsen clearly wasn't his best after that first round loss. I believe he lost a bit of interest psychologically once it was clear he had no chance of a good tournament finish. I mean, towards the end today he just looked disinterested.

[–]obvnotlupus 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's quite unlike him to suffer a blow that he can't recover from.

[–]ScaryAtheist -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah but for him a blow is usually being on 3.5/4 and losing game 5 to Caruana or something. Not being on 1.5 and last place halfway through his "own" tournament.

I don't know. Usually it's a combination of things, right. The early losses that set him back, a bit poorer form, perhaps a bit of psychological saturation after winning all tournaments so far this year ... maybe he has girl troubles for all we know. Sopiko refusing to ditch Giri for him? :P

[–]StarfleetAdmiral 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sopiko refusing to ditch Giri for him?

You're going into dangerous territory right there.

[–]rwill128 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Carlsen seems to do his best to look disinterested in a lot of tournaments / public appearances that I've seen...

[–]Kuchendieb23 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hope he picks it up again. It'd be sad to see such a great, young talent to rise and then fall so quickly.