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[–]throaway4goodmeasure 1779ポイント1780ポイント  (389子コメント)

Okay this is probably either one of the stupidest decisions of my life or it may just be the only redeeming thing I have ever done. So you all know about "Silk Road" (the defunct online drug market that was shut down in oct13). The man sentenced to life for running it (Ross Ulbricht), is not the only guy who ran it. I dont think he was too involved at all. I have since moved and the person I am about to talk about has gone ghost as well so here it goes:

I spent a few months dating this guy (considerably older) who was probably running the website for 80% of the time. He was always online logged in and many times in-front of me not only used the Dread Pirate Roberts account, but also chatted with who I now believe was the Ulbricht boy. My former SO often joked that this "kid" was essentially his robot and worshipped him. I know he had probably over 2,500 bitcoins at one point. I saw other things that he is stupid for flaunting, such as his conversations that he would decrypt and save to USB drives as "insurance" (his words) of him discussing things with police. Either he was an informant or he had them working for him. I think both. I know for a period of about 8 or 9 months that Ulbricht had not logged into the site portal because my ex-SO became paranoid that the guy might have been arrested or killed or turned informant. he pops back up and they start chatting like old buddies, supposedly he was hanging out with family and having personal problems.

I dont know the specifics and have never told a soul. When they arrested this boy, my ex took off. Said he was going to visit his parents and lay low for a bit, and then abruptly vanished. I did see him as "last online X hours ago" on Whatsapp here and there, so thankfully he's not dead or in jail.. I think.

For those who might think I could be getting him in trouble and Im being a bitch/vengeful/rat. No I aint. He's not a US citizen and is most likely not in the US.

TLDR/ELI5: Ross Ulbricht was definetly not "The Dread Pirate Roberts" as much as he was accused of. That would impossible. He sure is paying the price for it though. May God make this guys situation better one day, he's pain a price for shit he wasnt too vested in.

[–]bowdenta 591ポイント592ポイント  (41子コメント)

Had to look into this and i found this wired article

"As Ulbricht’s trial unfolded over the last month, one character appeared again and again in the chat logs prosecutors pulled from the laptop seized from Ulbricht at the time of his arrest: a man calling himself Variety Jones, and later, Cimon.

The past year and a half U.S. law enforcement have arrested Ulbricht, three of his Silk Road staffers and even the administrator of a second Silk Road, but no law enforcement agency has publicly recorded capturing anyone using Jones’ pseudonyms. Yet based on Ulbricht’s chat logs and secret journal, Jones served as nothing less than Ulbricht’s “mentor,” advising the Dread Pirate Roberts closely on everything from managing the site’s dealers to hiding his money offshore to threatening enemies with real-world violence.

“[He] was the biggest and strongest willed character I had met through the site thus far,” Ulbricht wrote in a 2011 journal entry.

He has advised me on many technical aspect[s] of what we are doing, helped me speed up the site and squeeze more out of my current servers. He has helped me better interact with the community around Silk Road, delivering proclamations, handling troublesome characters, running a sale, changing my name, devising rules, and on and on. He also helped me get my head straight regarding legal protection, cover stories, devising a will, finding a successor, and so on. He’s been a real mentor"

[–]PangurBanHammer 289ポイント290ポイント  (17子コメント)

I remember seeing a theory with some sort of evidence that the people mainly running the site saw the feds closing in and decided to throw Ulbricht under the bus. Can't remember where I saw the article, though.

[–]Garian 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

On the deep web... cue X-files theme

[–]McDaioh 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

i'd watch a netflix mystery series were they try to find the Dread Pirate.

[–]ofimmsl 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ulbricht's attorney is the one who came up with that theory. He first spoke of it during the opening statements of the trial. People wrote articles based on that, but there was never any evidence other than his attorney's words.

[–]paperweightbaby 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is a Sean Connery to Ulbricht's Michael Cera, don't worry.

[–]COMMENT_DESERVES_Au 8ポイント9ポイント  (7子コメント)

What if Variety Jones was a fed?

[–]musicistheanswer4 28ポイント29ポイント  (3子コメント)

For all we know it could be FUCKING OBAMA

YOU HEARD IT FIRST HERE FOLKS

[–]Methstar 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

Variety has 7 letters > Jones has 5 letters

FUCKING has 7 letters > OBAMA has 5 letters

Variety Jones = FUCKING OBAMA confirmed.

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    [–]dzh 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

    That kinda makes sense. There was Forbes interview with DPR before he got arrested. One of the first lines:

    DPR: I didn’t start the Silk Road, my predecessor did.

    [–]zloz 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Thus the name "Dread Pirate Roberts"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dread_Pirate_Roberts

    The "predecessor" mentored Ulbricht, got him to do some dirty work, and then reaped the profits. He basically Sith Lord Palpatined this guy into being his Darth Maul, getting him fucked up by the US government, and then slipped into the shadows.

    [–]Lambchops_Legion 36ポイント37ポイント  (2子コメント)

    According to his wiki, during his trial, he tries to name Mark Karpeles as the actual DPR. Karpeles is French, not American.

    In his trial, Ulbricht's defense was that Mt. GoxCEO Mark Karpelès and his right hand man Ashley Barr[19] jointly was actually Dread Pirate Roberts, and that Ulbricht was set up by Karpelès.[20] Mark Karpelès denied the accusation.[21

    [–]razuliserm 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    So wait... I guess OP read the wiki and just tried to bullshit us with Ashley Barr's veiw?

    [–]dzh 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Reading this makes a lot of sense

    [–]my_name_is_cooler 22ポイント23ポイント  (7子コメント)

    That's fucking weird, one of my best friends from preschool used to go by Cimon (his name is Simon) on every online account, and he's extremely good at programming and hacking. I'd assume this isn't him, he's always been a good guy, not the type to start an international drug smuggling ring, but a strange coincidence.

    [–]In_Liberty 44ポイント45ポイント  (5子コメント)

    he's always been a good guy, not the type to start an international drug smuggling ring

    There's nothing morally wrong with selling drugs or facilitating the sale of drugs, so these are not mutually exclusive characteristics.

    [–]freakorgeek 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

    While I agree with you, morals aren't facts, they're subjective.

    [–]fuck-this-noise 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Absolutely. The point is relevant though. A person facilitating the sale of drugs and other illegal items is not necessarily going to be your stock standard 'bad guy'. Could be the lovely next door neighbour who your mother keeps subtly hinting would make great grand children, or the sweet guy who helped you carry your shopping to the car in the rain.

    [–]MarshallBanana 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    There's nothing morally wrong with selling drugs or facilitating the sale of drugs, so these are not mutually exclusive characteristics.

    No, no, funnelling money to murderous cartels is perfectly ethical!

    [–]ZappRyder 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Eh I disagree, selling drugs can easily be morally wrong. It depends on whose morals we're talking about. Hell, something such as selling guns can be considered morally wrong or neutral as well. Biggest factor for me in determining the morality of an action is how long down the reaction chain do ya have to go before you no longer consider yourself accountable.

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      [–]doogie88 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

      That's pretty crazy. It would be an amazing story to know the actual truth behind the whole thing. Whoever this guy was was obviously a very smart man, and probably has an insane past of his own before Silk Road.

      [–]celesti0n 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

      There is a documentary, named 'Deep Web', which explores Ross Ulbricht's history, arrest and trial as well as the development of SR through 2011-2013. It is really intriguing; answers your questions and more.

      In case you don't care for watching, Ross Ulbricht himself is a fairly clean man (this is not to say that he is truly the 'man behind it all'. That is still debated). He came from a privileged family, was very intelligent, had full scholarships to study Physics at the University of Texas. He was pretty much the exact opposite of your stereotypical, violence-hungry jacked up mafia drug lord. In fact, many of the interviewees described Ross as being incapable of harming absolutely anyone - he was calm, peaceful, and disliked violence. Pretty much everyone who was interviewed consistently recognized this part of his demeanor - and so the documentary poses a lot of suspicion onto the law enforcement agencies that indicted him, particularly around his 'murder for hire' charges.

      I won't spoil anymore - if you felt the above was interesting enough, do check it out!

      [–]roidragequit 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      In fact, many of the interviewees described Ross as being incapable of harming absolutely anyone

      this is why he paid other people to do it for him

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        [–]PCGamingOppression 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Is it possible Cimon (great Greek name btw) was just an agent himself that was helping bury DPR?? Or maybe an informant that they nabbed in the beginning?

        [–]originalityescapesme 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        It is. We now know there were quite a few agents making both buys and sales as well as actively posting on the forum and private messaging many top vendors and administrators. In some cases they became good online friends. They for sure got themselves in the middle of the alleged murder for hire plots, pretending to bit hitmen as well as people who had paid for previous hits who could give positive reviews.

        [–]1to34 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Perhaps he wrote the interactions himself and wrote these things in his journal so that he had plausable denyability later down the road.

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          [–]dazwah 1376ポイント1377ポイント  (141子コメント)

          If your ex was actually the Dread Pirate Roberts and, most likely, not in the US, why not bring this information to the authorities so that someone who was sentenced to life could possibly have his sentence reduced?

          [–]shmigshmog 3276ポイント3277ポイント  (51子コメント)

          Because people go on the internet and tell lies.

          [–]LeotheYordle 907ポイント908ポイント  (37子コメント)

          You really think people would just do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?

          [–]cazzou 343ポイント344ポイント  (8子コメント)

          eye twitch

          [–]Noerdy 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

          *Lye twitch

          [–]_Eggs_ 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I just intentionally twitched my eye... pretty successfully, I might add. Just sharing.

          [–]SingaporeMuser 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          forest whitaker eye

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            [–]Bookwormwood 195ポイント196ポイント  (5子コメント)

            On my internets?!

            [–]michaeldunworthsydne 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Sadly Bookwormwood, even on your internets :(

            [–]Decadent-Trash 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            it's more likely than you think.

            [–]Svstem 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Yes, your Internets. Stay frosty, citizen.

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              [–]Kryak_ 35ポイント36ポイント  (4子コメント)

              Sending nudes 2 ppl!!! FREE!!! I need ur cc info so I no ur not a kid tho. It won't git charged tho. Promise!💖💖💖

              [–]ASK-IF-I-AM-PAULRUDD 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Well why would people link to a sub called 'thathappend' if it didn't?

              [–]Try__Again__Please 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Funny. I was having the same conversation with Michael Jackson yesterday.

              [–]darknetpotter 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Never. And I'm not lying because no one would go on the internet and tell lies, obviously.

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                [–]Donald_Keyman 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

                It was about that time that I realized her ex was a 500 foot tall monster from the paleolithic era!

                [–]sir_cum_size 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Her ex looked down at me and said son....imma need but tree fiddy

                [–]Luffing 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Seriously this whole thing feels crafted rather than a telling of events someone actually experienced as they would tell it.

                [–]ImpurityElement 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Good one!

                [–]Average-Nobody 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Or she's a nasty dirt-whore

                [–]dirtyuncleron69 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Honestly, I was expecting the Loch Ness Monster, which would have been a damn good one.

                [–]MISSINGxLINK 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Everything on the internet is true. Bonjour.

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                  [–]DeeBoFour20 408ポイント409ポイント  (34子コメント)

                  Because

                  1. She may not have any real evidence to prove anything.

                  2. Even if he's not in the US, once the story gets out his home country may prosecute.

                  3. There's a good chance even if her story checks out that it won't help Ross because they have plenty of evidence against him. By law even if he was only running the site for 1 day he can be charged with conspiracy for the whole thing.

                  [–]Rikvidr 12ポイント13ポイント  (5子コメント)

                  There's no helping Ross anyway. Do you really think the government gives a shit about some drugs and guns being sold on a significantly smaller scale than exists on the streets? Ross is being made an example of. They tried for years to catch him, and when he finally fucked up through user error, they had him. In the past few years, there's only been less than a handful "big news" darknet related cases. The alphabet agencies aren't going to let one go once they have one.

                  [–]mongo_lloyd [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                  Ross is being made an example of

                  From what I gathered of his case, this is a major part of his heavy sentencing. The courts are basically saying that if anyone what's to follow in his footsteps, expect to be wrecked by the law when you get caught.

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                    [–]dazwah 6ポイント7ポイント  (20子コメント)

                    But anything they've charged him with relating to him being the DPR would be contested. He'd at least have some solid grounds for appeal.

                    [–]DeeBoFour20 11ポイント12ポイント  (17子コメント)

                    Ross was acting as DPR for a period of time though and they have evidence of that. He already tried to use the defense that someone else set the site up and turned it over to Ross at the last minute but the prosecution said that didn't matter. They caught Ross with evidence that he was logged in as DPR and caught him with a stash of bitcoins linked to Silk Road.

                    [–]dazwah 2ポイント3ポイント  (16子コメント)

                    I'm not too familiar with the details of the case, so please, excuse my ignorance.

                    The times that they have evidence of Ross operating as the DPR, do those times coincide with the attempted hired killings? Or just that he was logged in as the DPR?

                    Also, for the stash of bitcoins, is that criminal because it is bitcoins made off of other people selling illegal goods? I'm guessing that's what you meant by "linked to Silk Road".

                    Also, also, what I was saying in the comment you replied to, although Ross was proven to have logged in as DPR but he claims (and OP claims) that there was another, more active DPR operator, couldn't he file an appeal (given there was evidence), saying that not all of his DPR-related charges are factual?

                    I'm not saying he'll walk out of prison or even win his appeal, but an appeal could still take place.

                    [–]NotClever 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

                    The previous poster's point was that he doesn't have to be responsible for all of the DPR activity under conspiracy laws. Typical criminal conspiracy laws provide that if you were a conspirator you can be charged with the full punishment for whatever crimes a co-conspirator commits. The only catch is that you have to show that the con-conspirators conspired to commit a specific crime, so I guess he could try to argue that he didn't know about the previous DPR's activities and thus wasn't a conspirator, but I would be surprised if he didn't try that.

                    [–]dazwah 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

                    From what I understand, he didn't throw any names out, he just said that he wasn't the DPR. Maybe he didn't know the original DPR's real identity or wasn't going to rat, idk.

                    But if evidence is brought forward that the other DPR conspired to do things under "DPR" and Olbricht had no knowledge of it, he could at least get an appeal, I would think.

                    I'm also not a lawyer. I've just watched countless hours of Law and Order.

                    [–]retop56 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

                    He kept a personal journal on the laptop that he was using when he was arrested which is probably the dumbest thing you can do if you're running a DNM that big.

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                          [–]basalticlava 232ポイント233ポイント  (13子コメント)

                          Because Olbricht isn't just going down for being DPR. They got him on conspiracy to commit murder and other charges too, iirc.

                          [–]lazy_monk 160ポイント161ポイント  (8子コメント)

                          No the murder thing was overturned. They weren't able to nail him on it.

                          [–]VirindiExecutor 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

                          I don't believe that's true, he's still awaiting trial in MD. One of the people he hired as a hitman was an FBI agent.

                          [–]NightGod 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          That FBI agent got arrested himself for the sketchy shit he was doing while he was undercover. Not gonna make much of a witness for the state in a prison jumpsuit.

                          [–]fuck-this-noise 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Yeah, didn't he steal a buttload of bitcoins during a 'raid' of sorts?

                          [–]Brake_check 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          He was never charged with attempted murder because the circumstances were sketchy as hell. FBI and all that crap.

                          [–]synthetic_sound 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          It wasn't overturned because he was never convicted; as far as I know he was never formally charged for it in federal court.

                          [–]badboidurryking 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          I don't know the legal term but wasn't his pursuit of calling hits on 'business enemies' enough to increase his sentence on running Silk Road? It's like if you deal pot it's not a huge deal but if you go to massive lengths to insure you can still deal pot i.e. calling a hit then the severity is increased for dealing pot even if you're not charged for calling the hit.

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                            [–]dazwah 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Didn't they charge him with that stuff, saying that he conspired under the username DPR?

                            [–]niandra3 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Except they couldn't convict on the murder charges due in part to the fact that at least one of the FBI agents on the team stole a bunch of Silk Road's bitcoins http://rt.com/usa/245353-silk-road-agents-arrested/

                            [–]Generati0nY 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            They put that in there to make him seem like a bad guy.

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                              [–]barbedvelvet 52ポイント53ポイント  (11子コメント)

                              Maybe she could be charged as an accessory?

                              [–]dazwah 46ポイント47ポイント  (9子コメント)

                              Well, if all of what OP is saying is true - that he/she just witnessed him logged in as DPR and was never actively involved in the stuff, she could just claim that she had no idea about the deep web or silk road or anything. It would be kinda hard to build a criminal case around that...unless in their investigation they found info linking her to the crimes as well.

                              But, if she knew ahead of time that she could be linked to anything, I'm sure the FBI would be willing to make a deal with her for giving up the real DPR.

                              [–]jakesboy2 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                              Yeah I wouldn't risk it. Nothing good can come from going to the police unless your life or property is in danger.

                              [–]dazwah 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              I'd feel like shit knowing that someone is rotting in prison for a crime they didn't commit and I had intimate knowledge of the real criminal and the real criminal is out and about in the world.

                              [–]striapach 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              He did commit the crime though. This just says someone else may have also been involved. Doesn't help Ross at all if someone else goes to prison.

                              [–]HolySheed 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

                              Should have definitely started that with IANALB

                              [–]dazwah 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                              What does that mean?

                              [–]WannieTheSane 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              I'm actually really good at made up acronyms.

                              I'm guessing (and makes sense in context) that it's:

                              I Am Not A Lawyer, But:

                              [–]93238946 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              I actually read that as: I Am Not A Lying Bitch

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                                [–]cub4life78 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Or she's full of shit.

                                [–]ncolaros 17ポイント18ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                Because they would need more evidence or a confession from her ex to get the guy's sentence reduced, I believe.

                                [–]dazwah 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                It could open an investigation. They could look into it. They wouldn't just arrest the guy because someone on the internet said so..but if OP brought the feds some solid info on the guy, it could lead to an investigation.

                                [–]ncolaros 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                Assuming it's real (and it mostly likely isn't), she seems to not want her ex to go to jail.

                                [–]dazwah 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                She said he's not a US citizen and most likely not here. Depending on the country, he might not see any charges.

                                [–]ncolaros 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                Right, but then she's got a guy who ran an entire illegal empire pissed at her for giving him up.

                                [–]tow-my-toes -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                why would the feds do that? it would undermine their detective skills, and prove that they messed up, no one wants to be the guy to admit they fucked up. cmon

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                                  [–]Pineconerunner 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  I agree wholeheartedly, no doubt Ulbricht did some wrong and should be punished for it. However the law should punish those who are guilty. The entire point of this system is already flawed enough but this is like the guy who gets away with murder because someone wont testify.

                                  I am confident there are other matters at play here but people should only be punished for what they have done not more. If this is the case its a shame that once again the system failed and someone who should have gotten 5 years on good behavior is now getting life.

                                  [–]FlavourDruid 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Because of the way it's written I doubt she's involved with anyone smart enough to evade LE while throwing someone else under the bus... Unless he has a thing for dumb chicks.

                                  [–]RiptideUndertow 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  The "Dread Pirate Roberts" and other psuedonyms were FBI - using Mark Karpelès and others. This allowed them feeding first Ulbricht and secondly themselves exactly what they wanted - for him to have that knowledge to see how far they would take it/share it and induce others to throw him under the bus, then to use against him having set it up so that he could not prove it was not, otherwise. Someone got a promotion for this. Someone got a nice bonus, and the accolades were spread around.

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                                    [–]mors_videt 246ポイント247ポイント  (18子コメント)

                                    I don't believe that this is true.

                                    You didn't give any more details than can be seen or read in many sources. There is a popular documentary about Silk Road that says exactly that about DPR.

                                    At a maximum, you were dating someone who was lying to you but I don't believe that either. A person who would brag about being a criminal mastermind to a random girl- of boy I guess- that he was dating is not a person whose identity remains hidden.

                                    [–]Counterkulture 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                    A person who would brag about being a criminal mastermind to a random girl- of boy I guess

                                    I don't know, people are idiots. The way that Ulbricht accidentally id'd himself is a great example of that.

                                    [–]srthrowaway47 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    Well if what she is saying is true, then that was most definitely a setup. Doesn't it seem a little too retarted that he used his real name gmail when creating the site? This would certainly explain it.

                                    In reality Ross is just a fucking idiot and regardless of everything he stood for, he got fucked for it.

                                    [–]impost_r 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    There were about 10 different ways they would be been able to ID him though, he didn't slip up just once.

                                    [–]StateLottery 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                    Do you have a name, or a link for the Silk Road documentary? The only one I see is one that isn't out yet.

                                    [–]mors_videt 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Link pulled from Youtube due to copyright violation. http://documentaryheaven.com/deep-web/

                                    IMDB http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3312868/

                                    I watched this last week, and so did OP, apparently. Also available on r/documentaries

                                    [–]Derrick4Real 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    It's called "The Deep Web". However, it really doesn't come close to covering the Deep Web" as the title insinuates. It's 10% Deep Web basics, 90% the rise and fall of Silk Road.

                                    It is on Epix, a pay channel on cable. You can sign up for a week trial and watch it. That's what I did. Definitely done well...just incorrectly titled.

                                    Produced by Ted from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure...and Keanu Reeves does the dialogue throughout.

                                    [–]OccamRager 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                    Currently dating drug dealer. You'd be suprised at what I already know about him.

                                    [–]diggexpat 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Not all drug dealers are the leaders of an international smuggling ring. Most of them just sell dime bags because they think it impresses girls.

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                                        [–]mrpopenfresh 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        This is so ridiculously fake.

                                        [–]islandbuns 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        I recently read a really well written article about those two guys. There was an undercover cop who got buddy buddy with one of them. Plot so crazy it sounded like a crime movie

                                        [–]chhap 49ポイント50ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                        Other people claimed that the nickname "Dread pirate Roberts" may have been used by two or three people at the same time, the documentary "Deep web" is very explanatory on this story.

                                        [–]EmmaRSnow 58ポイント59ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                        This sorta makes sense considering the history of that name.

                                        [–]TheRicksterSJ 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        That name was only passed down in succession after the last one died. He said at the same time.

                                        [–]rynomachine 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        I was thinking the same thing. It's a name that is meant to be passed from one to another

                                        [–]throaway4goodmeasure 20ポイント21ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                        I know about the movie, I don't think it's online anywhere to watch yet. I don't use Google to look things up relating to any of this, but I do use Tor. I am not sure about 3 people using "Dread Pirate Roberts" account, but who knows what kinds of shit these dudes were upto, I would not be surprised. I know they all (including my ex) took it all very seriously and many times we would be stoned as hell, yet he would not laugh or watch the TV or anything, just on his laptop for huge hours at a time. There were others he would chat with about the operation/site/ and refer to them as his workers, but I really avoided actively sitting down and looking at it. Maybe in bed I would look at his screen out of curioisity but usually just do my own thing on my laptop. They were all using GPG encryption and linux stuff. I dont know but I would guess 5 or 6 people were around the clock keeping the thing up and runnin. It haunts me that I was this close to all of it, and it really has taken a toll on me knowing that I know things about such a famous case. Ulrbicht was not the only Dread Pirate for too much long of a time. The courts did not give him fairness.

                                        [–]sleepinghours 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        /r/fullmoviesongoogle

                                        [–]ItsJustTheWeb_Dude 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        we would be stoned as hell, yet he would not laugh or watch the TV or anything, just on his laptop for huge hours at a time.

                                        That doesn't make him responsible for running the Silk Road. Shit, half of the people reading this probably fit that description.

                                        [–]_RAPE_RAPE_RAPE 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        i think you're talking about PGP encryption, and pretty much anyone who wanted a legit deal on the silk road used it to communicate.

                                        [–]doogie88 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Can't remember the story but it changed, or people went from PGP to GPG. I'm sure someone could explain it, and I'm too lazy to find out.

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                                            [–]pengu1nz 112ポイント113ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            For those who might think I could be getting him in trouble and Im being a bitch/vengeful/rat. No I aint. He's not a US citizen and is most likely not in the US.

                                            I think most people are going to be upset with the idea that you would let someone else take the fall rather than your ex

                                            but this is just a troll post to get attention anyways

                                            [–]immaculate_deception 152ポイント153ポイント  (63子コメント)

                                            You may be telling the truth and you also may be lying. Either way, the feds are going to be finding you after writing this.

                                            [–]PepeAndMrDuck 166ポイント167ポイント  (32子コメント)

                                            I already backtraced it.

                                            [–]Sheepocalypse 53ポイント54ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                            Quick, send it to the cyber police!

                                            [–]Gewehr98 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            how are the consequences?

                                            [–]MrMeltJr 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Different from the last time I checked.

                                            WE DID IT REDDIT

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                                              [–]marcusucram 28ポイント29ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              You dun goofed!

                                              [–]PepeAndMrDuck 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              CONSEQUENCESWILLNEVERBETHESAME

                                              [–]LordOfCatan 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              Consequences will never be the same.

                                              [–]Chompers-The-Great 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Ya lying bunch of pricks!

                                              R.I.P. Gene Slaughter...

                                              [–]marble617 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Ban her from Xbox live unless she pays MSPoints!!!

                                              [–]joshyleowashy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Yet another victory for reddit! Just like that one Boston bomber guy.

                                              [–]Noble6 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              OP skimped and only used 6 proxies... one more and they would have been untraceable

                                              [–]cheddarben 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              ENHANCE!

                                              [–]Honky_Cat 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Did you compute his encryption key so you could crash his firewall and get in using the backdoor?

                                              Why am I even asking... Of course you did!

                                              [–]itsdeuce 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Dun goofed.

                                              [–]KaidyPerry 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Forward tracing it right now

                                              [–]Onetallnerd 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              I coded up a Visual Basic GUI and backtraced it too!

                                              [–]Aero_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              But what about the consequences?

                                              [–]vhseternal 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Ya done goofed!

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                                                [–]jetblackcrow 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                True. And I found you for writing this.

                                                [–]BaneWilliams 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                Except that you can still anonymously post on the clear web utilising a variety of methods.

                                                [–]TeamRedundancyTeam 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                Even using something like Tor with proxies is not enough to be 100% safe.

                                                [–]BaneWilliams 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                And? Nothing is 100% safe, but you can mitigate a whole host of things in a number of ways. I am extremely confident that when I want anonymity on the clear web I can have it, through a variety of physical, hardware, and software methods.

                                                [–]NoInstructions 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Good luck, she's behind 7 proxies.

                                                [–]GetOutOfBox 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                Tor in all likelihood.

                                                [–]SergeantSushi 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                I'd give OP 48 hours before she is contacted by some Feds who got her IP and subsequent address through sending Reddit a search warrant. They'll probably have her WhatsApp contact list from Facebook almost immediately after they have her name.

                                                TL;DR Unless OP was really forward thinking and took some basic anonymity measures ... RIP OP

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                                                  [–]TheScriptKiddie 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                  Holy fucking shit, if you're for real than you need to go to the police, your testimony could free Ross.

                                                  Who am I kidding? You made all that up.

                                                  [–]TacoFugitive 335ポイント336ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                  I spent a few months dating this guy (considerably older)

                                                  I don't want to alarm you, but I am also considerably older, and I also ran the silk road for a while. Baby, trust me, I've got so many bitcoins stashed away, I wrap them in gold foil so the feds will think they're chocolate money. Anyway, I don't run the silk road as much these days, but I'm still super rich. I have to hide it or the feds will catch on, hence living in this dirty trailer, but when the heat dies down, I'll be moving to Majorca. This is your one chance to hook up with The Dreadest Pirate of them all. Hurry, there's no time, take off your bra, we can live like kings.

                                                  [–]abw 22ポイント23ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                  No, I'm The Dread Pirate Roberts and so is my wife!

                                                  [–]Shopworn_Soul 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Stan, we've told you a thousand times: That was your uncle's taco stand in Des Moines, not the Silk Road. And those actually are chocolate coins.

                                                  [–]DeepFriedBud 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  • Taco Fugitive, aka The Dread Pirate Roberts, aka the Real Slim Shady

                                                  [–]WiretapStudios 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  The only thing he pirated that night, was that sweet booty. Sail on, Dong Pirate Roberts...

                                                  [–]T3chn1c1an 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Wtf

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                                                    [–]ickmol 23ポイント24ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                    Prepare yourselves for a movie of Dwayne Johnson chasing this guy down

                                                    [–]PlanB_is_PlanA 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                    I actually have high hopes for a silk road movie. I mean, The Social Network was a pretty good movie and didn't have 1/4 of the action, twists and turns that this silk road story has.

                                                    [–]FireFromTheWire 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    Dwayne the Crack Rock Johnson.

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                                                      [–]jxf 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      /r/thathappened

                                                      [–]BedSideCabinet 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      I believe you because you posted this onto the internet.

                                                      [–]Eyezupguardian 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      In before deletion or three letter service knocks for you

                                                      [–]WillWorkForLTC 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnd the FBI have already despatched a team your way. You'll be watched indefinitely. Enjoy!

                                                      [–]andreafantastic 22ポイント23ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                      that's rad as fuck.

                                                      [–]throaway4goodmeasure 42ポイント43ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                      it was kind of surreal and exciting (yet scary), but I suppose he thought I got off on it. At that time in my life I personally just cared that I had all the exotic MJ I could smoke like a kid in a candy store, and I was taken care of financially. I did think it was risky but he said he had plans in case things get dicy. Whats not too rad is someone else was just sentenced to life in the prisons for .. crimes he aint done much.

                                                      [–]andreafantastic 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      You never know... all of that could've been part of an even bigger plan.

                                                      [–]zgrove 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      This reads like a commentary over a flashback in a campy western movie

                                                      [–]finc 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Yurp, then he done gone and left me cuz that boy was in cahoots with the devil. Smore?

                                                      [–]SpeakLikeAChild04 12ポイント13ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                      At that time in my life I personally just cared that I had all the exotic MJ I could smoke like a kid in a candy store

                                                      I always heard rumors that you had to take The Silk Road to get on The Pineapple Express.

                                                      [–]whodeynation7 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      and then you get in a Trainwreck but you follow the Northern Lights until you meet the White Rhino.

                                                      [–]NoInstructions 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                      Pineapple Express isn't that great of a strain FWIW.

                                                      [–]montroller 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                      Anybody can grow a good strain poorly. If you find someone who actually cares about their work Pineapple Express can be amazing!

                                                      [–]Elderly_Gambino 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      Eh it's decent and would probably blow non-DNM users away on the East Coast or something but it's not "the dopest dope I've ever smoked"

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                                                        [–]Onetallnerd 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Not sure I believe that. Only 2,500 bitcoins? Ulbricht had control of more than 100k bitcoin, most of them belonged to the silk road but even just his personal stash he had way more than 2.5k bitcoin. Seems odd that your former SO only had 2.4k bitcoin. I'm calling bulllshit.

                                                        [–]ptashark 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Bull.

                                                        [–]idonotknowwhoiam 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                        Thanks, Mr. FBI Officer.

                                                        [–]BeerInTheBabySeat 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                        2,500 bitcoin = $600,700 USD

                                                        [–]WiretapStudios 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        This man will live like a king for the next 3/4 of a year!

                                                        [–]HUGE-A-TRON 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Prove it or I'm getting my pitchfork.

                                                        [–]bradhuds 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        How many red pills have you taken today?

                                                        [–]imnotabus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        This is the most bullshit story I have read all month

                                                        Well done.

                                                        [–]BvS35 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Did your ex have dreads and like rum?

                                                        [–]Justanaussie 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                        I like the way you use a throwaway account and then give out all the information anyone needs to figure out who you are.

                                                        Anyone that would want to keep this all quiet anyway.

                                                        So if this is real (and I suspect it's all bullshit otherwise you would have to be the dumbest fucker on the planet) then some very shady characters that have a lot of money and their personal freedom on the line now know that you have absolutely no problem at all with giving out the sort of information that would that could see them banged up for a very long time.

                                                        So we have option A, you're lying through your teeth or option B, you're exhibiting a level of stupidity that is absolutely monumental in size.

                                                        [–]Bmal77 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Lmao lemme just post this shit on reddit.

                                                        [–]RagingOrangutan 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Yeah, I don't believe this. Particularly hilarious is the "more than 2,500 bitcoins" part. In the early days of the silk road, 2500 bitcoins was worth around $2500, which is nothing for someone running such a site.

                                                        [–]Klausar 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/3b18nq/bullshitter_in_ask_reddit_thread/

                                                        [–]BoroughsofLondon 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                        The original DPR's name was Thomas Clark. He is Canadian-born and lived in England for a while. He went by the name Plural of Mongoose.

                                                        I would be shocked if the Feds didn't know all this.

                                                        http://antilop.cc/sr/#jones

                                                        [–]AmAGrower 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                        The feds know all of this but I wouldn't call PoM the original dpr at all.. Everything about rose's back story and timeline for what was going on in his life fits the bill for him starting up sr1. Also if you've spent anywhere near the time I had reading every archived post concerning vj, pom, shabang etc you might also feel that pom wasn't too much a self starter.. He would come along after someone had a real good idea, and try to get involved and help, after he was trusted he usually ended up working things to his own end.. That happened pretty quick with yubikey, and him having a couple monikers on the pay roll.. I'm writing something but it is taking some time to piece together.. I believe that pom started out with the road not necessarily looking to inform on it, but I think he probably got popped, and ended up becoming a CI again.. Gypsy is also in prison now, and I'd suspect he may have played a role.. No one cares about Clark tho as far as the police are concerned.. Why? Because he is in their pocket.. He is still lurking,but those nyms are burned forever.. We won't see PoM, shebang, variety Jones, cimon ever again in a position of trust I don't think.. I'm sure he is still around, building up a reputation on other nyms so he can embed himself into the next big thing and defraud it.

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                                                          [–]TacoJew 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                          Will this thread be deleted?

                                                          [–]avianp 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Was this ex of yours involved in the mj seed scene heavily?

                                                          [–]brighterside 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Yeah... Prepare to have your door bashed in.

                                                          [–]RiptideUndertow 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Of course not - the "Dread Pirate Roberts" is more than one -hence the name reference, duh.

                                                          [–]chronicdemonic 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          You know, the government audited some reddit users for posting stuff like this before. Aren't you worried about your safety?

                                                          [–]vomitwolf 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          idontbelieveyou.gif

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