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[–]Hendrick Motorsportsxman813 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm more surprised by "fan" reactions. Seriously, people really think Jr, of all people, would be a stars and bars guy?

[–]Earnhardt, Jr.goosiegirl 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah I was more thinking Sr. would have been more of that line between he and Jr. Glad neither are though.

[–]Earnhardt, Jr.Steve31 20ポイント21ポイント  (23子コメント)

The excerpt from his book should be plastered everywhere. Especially this part:

"so I'm hesitant to tell him the rebel flag represents closed-minded, racist views that have no place in today's society."

It needs to stop. Hopefully we see some drivers actually speak out against it this weekend.

[–]Vickersabeers83 26ポイント27ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'm not surprised, they traveled outside the South often. The only people who don't have a problem with it are the people who stay in the South their whole life.

[–]Earnhardt, Sr.Walkingsexappeal 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

And to add on to that, most southern people either don't give a fuck, or are against it. I've lived in NC all my life, and know maybe a handful of people that support it.

[–]KahneNoob_tuba23 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Living in NC my whole life as well, I can say that they are a very vocal minority.

[–]jaymobe07 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Northern Ohioan here. A lot of rednecks fly it here. They state it's "southern" pride and has nothing to do with racism or slavery.

[–]Gordon24rubikscube 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I also live in northern Ohio, and hear the same. Judging by the comments from southern residents, I kinda wonder if it's more of a northern thing to support it.

I don't really care about it. I think it's absurd to wear it or display with pride, but I don't look at the confederacy as some evil piece of history like some people do.

[–]Gordonyamaha2k11 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I guess the confederate flag has been re-purposed as a redneck flag. I've seen the Confederate flag quite a bit while living down in Southwest Texas. I've even seen a few flags here in Colorado.

I agree that some people view the Confederate flag as more of a symbol of their southern heritage rather than as a symbol of oppression and racism, but the point is that this flag does have a dark history behind it. If you want to hang it in your room or get a decal of it on your truck, you're more than welcome to do so.

I just think with this issue in particular, the State of Mississippi shouldn't have it on their flag.

[–]GordonNoonecanknowMiner 12ポイント13ポイント  (15子コメント)

Oh boy, the comments on Yahoo about this will be toxic.

[–]GordonSimpleton216 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was bored so I replied to facebook comments with pictures of General Sherman.

[–]Townleyjohnnyracer24 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you check Zappa's post on /r/NASCARFBComments, there's a guy who wants "fans" of NASCAR to embargo NASCAR. I replied with the "You keep saying that. I do not think it means what you think it means" from The Princess Bride.

[–]Kurt Buschmasshole41 4ポイント5ポイント  (9子コメント)

I went there. Awful.

[–]GordonNoonecanknowMiner 20ポイント21ポイント  (7子コメント)

Ban that offensive rainbow flag.

Welp, there it is. Everything wrong with the world.

[–]Earnhardt, Sr.TheLibertarianThomas 38ポイント39ポイント  (6子コメント)

What is wrong with 1990s Jeff Gordon flags?

[–]Earnhardt, Jr.cowboyjosh2010 13ポイント14ポイント  (5子コメント)

"If NASCAR wouldn't have allowed that damned Gordon to race, Earnhardt Sr. would have gotten, 2, maybe even 3 more championships!" /s

[–]Hendrick Motorsportsxman813 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

That argument sounds familiar....oh yeah insert JJ instead and voila

[–]Earnhardt, Sr.TheLibertarianThomas 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

If NASCAR wouldn't have allowed that damned Johnson to race, Earnhardt Sr. would have gotten, 2, maybe even 3 more championships!

FTFY

[–]Hendrick Motorsportsxman813 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, shit.....

[–]Gordonyamaha2k11 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What makes it worse is that Jeff handpicked the driver who was going to unseat him as the #1 team at HMS.

Oh well, 92 wins and 4 championships is pretty respectable for a 22+ year career.

[–]Gordon24rubikscube 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's have gotten the '95 title, but that is it.

[–]Sadlerjakealake4 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

how bad are they compared to facebook comments?

[–]Vickersabeers83 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

As i scrolled down to see the shitstorm of yahoo comments, i learned Aldo may miss the UFC fight next week. Fuckkkkkkkkkk

[–]StewartCokeTastesGood39 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh boy, the comments on /r/NASCAR about this will be toxic.

FTFY

[–]Gillilandanyusernameyouwant 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was confused for a second, I thought the title said it twice.

More on topic though, I'm glad that these opinions are held by people who others will listen to.

[–]Earnhardt, Jr.cowboyjosh2010 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

[–]#ByrnesStrongwesternspaceviking 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

My reaction on this whole racist/Confederate thing going around since the shooting. Just sit back and watch the world play it self out.

[–]Kyle Buschswynfor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I envy your ability to not get caught up in everything. I think I shall adopt your mentality going forward.

[–]jsh1138 9ポイント10ポイント  (18子コメント)

i'm sure it has nothing to do with Nascar's rabid opposition to the flag.

I personally dont support it or fly it but i think its ludicrous that 8 or 10 people get killed and we're talking about a flag instead of mental health issues. Its a red herring and has nothing to do with anything.

[–]Benson49erlew 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

There are many instances that highlight the fact that mental health is a serious issue in America right now.

In this instance, pointing that out is simply trying to sweep this racist shitbird under the rug.

"Nothing to see here, folks! Just some bat shit looney didn't take his pills! We should fix this mental health issue, though!"

[–]jsh1138 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

lol i would say the same about the flag crap. "oh we're gonna get on that flag thing! no more murders in SC!"? come on, its not going to solve anything

i mean get rid of the flag, i dont care, but the fact that the flag is our first stop on this is absurd.

[–]Benson49erlew 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm not really sure that the flag was the first stop, so much as this incident just threw it into the limelight and highlighted the issue.

Nobody is saying that removing the flag is going to solve this problem, or that it would somehow choke out the hate groups that have hijacked it. If they are, they're pretty damned naive.

What people are saying is that maybe it's time to acknowledge the fact that people like Bowlcut McRacistface have pretty much hijacked the CBF to the point that it is becoming more and more difficult to actually defend it.

[–]jsh1138 -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not really sure that the flag was the first stop

lol please.

[–]Earnhardt, Jr.goosiegirl 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

exactly this. Exactly that last sentence.

[–]Chevroletcurrytacos 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He needs the death penalty.

[–]Johnsonpinkysugarfree 11ポイント12ポイント  (7子コメント)

Wrong. This was a racially motivated hate crime. The shooter was a white male with an entire website and manifesto dedicated to spewing his racist bullshit to anyone who would listen. Not to mention he was photographed with the confederate flag as well as the flag of Apartheid oppressed South Africa. He may be crazy, but he's a racist and a terrorist before that.

Why is it that mental health is always the red herring in situations like this when the perpetrator isn't a shade of brown?

[–]jsh1138 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

the flag of apartheid wasn't flying over SC. even if the confederate flag wasn't either, this guy wouldn't have cared. the flag didnt cause this, its silly to pretend that taking it down will improve anything. racists will still be just as racist

[–]Johnsonpinkysugarfree 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

It's silly to pretend that this is the first time people have complained about that flag. It's silly to pretend that it's not a symbol that had been used to promote segregation and entice fear for decades. It needed to be done away with on any official level a long time ago. It's your right to fly it on your house, car, whatever, but it has no business in front of a state house. Racists will be racists, yes, but the removal of it is a symbol of the condemnation of such disgusting ideologies.

[–]Kyle Buschswynfor 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

The removal of the flag flying on a state building is one thing. The removal of the flag from many different major retailers and the mission to abolish it from being flown anywhere is another. You are correct, a person is within their rights if they wish to fly it on their house, car, etc. The confederacy was formed in response to more than just slavery and I'm sure that many of the people flying it or wearing it today are doing so in representation of the rebellious aspect rather than the disgusting acts of slavery.

[–]Johnsonpinkysugarfree 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

If a privately owned company like Walmart wants to stop selling the confederate flag, then that's their prerogative, same with NASCAR making a point of reiterating their disapproval of it. If it were just a harmless symbol, then why are companies so big distancing themselves from it?

If people want to fly the confederate flag for whatever reason, then fine, fly it. Put it on your truck, wear it on a shirt, I really don't give a damn, it's your right. But that does not change the fact that it has been widely used in promotion of segregation and hate, that can't be ignored or treated as something small.

[–]Kyle Buschswynfor 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Companies are distancing themselves now because of current public backlash. After the rallies at the state house are finished, the logical next step would've been retailers etc. You are correct that they are privately owned and free to make their own decision however they are heavily influenced by popular opinion and up until now, there was no reason for them to stop selling related products. They are mainly distancing themselves from bad press.

True, people have flown it in the name of segregation. That is not right and I do not personally condone such actions. On the other hand, it has since been adopted by rebel subculture and in my experience has only been flown at rock concerts and other related events. The goal here should be to move past terrible, inhuman events in history by rewriting the present, not by hiding the past.

[–]Johnsonpinkysugarfree 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just because there's a supposed subculture that is embracing it in a new way doesn't mean that all the shitty things it's attached to are erased or negated. History is ugly, but it is still history, it's apart of my history all around. If a group all of a sudden emerged and wanted to "embrace" the swastika in a new way, how do you think people would react to that? Despite what that symbol may have meant before hand, it's now attached to one of the largest atrocities in world history, it's attached to all kinds of hate groups, I doubt it will ever be perceived the same. That's how I and a lot of people feel about the confederate flag. Slavery, church burnings, lynchings, murders of entire communities, the KKK, that's the kind of atrocities it's attached to, and no new wave of interpretation can ever change that.

[–]jsh1138 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's silly to pretend that this is the first time people have complained about that flag.

who is pretending that?

there is no connection between those murders and that flag. the fact that our national debate right now is about the flag and not about anything that could have actually helped those people, or that might help the next victims of a guy like that, is sad.

It needed to be done away with on any official level a long time ago.

i dont disagree with that at all but that should be a footnote and not the main thrust of public officials' efforts in response to this.

[–]Earnhardt, Jr.Diactylmorphinefiend 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Agreed. Even though I don't like the confederate flag or what it stands for.

[–]jsh1138 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

not to bring politics into this at all but it reminds me alot of what happened after Katrina. Total failure of NOLA government, total failure of LA government, people hurting, and the headline is "GWB hates black people!" and we spend the next 6 months talking about that instead of why they released all the prisoners in the jails into a city that was in the middle of an evacuation.

its just a bullshit smoke screen designed to hide their inaction on real issues. they're going to ban this flag, everyone will give a speech and pat themselves on the back and that will be the end of it and America won't be one drop safer or less racist as a result.

[–]Earnhardt, Jr.Diactylmorphinefiend 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Releasing the prisoners from the jails would be far down my list of terrible/dumb/panicked things the government did during hurricane Katrina. However I do agree with your main point that we always argue over the dumbest stuff. To expand on your point a little bit. No one wants or has any real incentive to change when it comes to racial issues in America. Because truth be told most of the issues are economic class related. The powers that be are terrified that if the lower classes ever got over the racism that they would realize they have many of the same problems. High taxes on top of a heavily regressive tax system, corrupt inefficient police, justice system which favors the wealthy, deceptive corporations, stagnant wages, and it goes on and on you know? Truth is a hell of a lot more brings us together than tears us apart.

[–]jsh1138 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

i wasn't saying that was the worst thing that happened but people were getting raped at shelters specifically because the jails were emptied and no one was ever punished or as far as i know even questioned about it. Meanwhile the states on either side of LA somehow managed ok. It was just an indictment of the leadership, nto a result of the hurricane.

obviously you can make a list a mile long of stuff that went wrong, that was just one thing off the top of my head.

[–]Kyle BuschSOA18 4ポイント5ポイント  (14子コメント)

Holy shit I'm laughing so hard about the thoughts of how 90% of Jr. Nation will react to this

[–]Earnhardt, Sr.RangerBillXX 28ポイント29ポイント  (1子コメント)

Probably something like - "huh, I didn't know he shared my views. Glad to know it."

[–]Earnhardt, Sr.TheLibertarianThomas 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think my moment of when I started to respect Junior as a person was when I read an old interview he did with 60 Minutes in 2004. He said that while he identified as a Republican (at least at the time), he took his crew to see Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" because he "likes hearing both sides of the argument" and even thought the movie was "well done," though he still supported George W. Bush.

Even as someone who doesn't agree with Bush's policies, I respect someone who takes the time to consider all sides before making a decision.

[–]TownleyZappaOMatic 6ポイント7ポイント  (10子コメント)

[–]Kyle BuschSOA18 9ポイント10ポイント  (9子コメント)

Dumbocrates

I, I don't even know what to say

[–]Earnhardt, Jr.NefariousBanana 7ポイント8ポイント  (7子コメント)

I'm assuming it rhymes with Socrates.

[–]Kyle BuschSOA18 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Actually it's Greek for "I hate homosexuals and races besides white"

[–]Buescherlordjollygreen -3ポイント-2ポイント  (5子コメント)

I think they were referring to democrats, but are too stupid to actually know how to spell democrats.

[–]Six-Timebeezwacks 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

Nope, they say it like that on purpose. My uncle puts shit like that all over fb.

[–]Townleyjohnnyracer24 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

/r/forwardsfromgrandma is a wonderful place to see people like him.

[–]Larsonpocketmissiles 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Does he also put weird emphasis on random words like all caps and underlines?

[–]Six-Timebeezwacks 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, he's literate. Just not nice to people who don't think like he does.

[–]StewartTrippingBearBalls 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dumbocrates. Ya know, the containers they used to transport Dumbo