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[–]blolfighterdvorak-kin 73ポイント74ポイント  (12子コメント)

You need to unsubscribe from TIA for a while I think. Never forget that TIA is an echo chamber too. Also, reddit's sorting algorithms mean you are more likely to see a highly upvoted post than one that gets less upvotes. What gets the most upvotes in TIA? The most outrageous shit. So the whole subreddit is in its natural state a hysterical frenzy of SJW bullshit, giving you a grossly exaggerated picture of how prevalent this stuff is.

So I would advise you to unsub for a while. From TIA, from TIAD, and from TumblrAtRest. All of it. Set a reminder to resub in your calendar for two months from now if you're worried about your daily dose of outrage. And then unsub, and smell the roses. Note how your daily intake of bullshit goes way down.

This whole mess is a problem, but it's not the full-on cultural assault that it seems like if you're soaking in a tub of it.

[–]MedievalTortoise[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (9子コメント)

I'm not even subbed is the thing. It's just knowing the existence of and how its becoming bigger is what scares and angers me. But you are still right though how I should just take a break from it all, but its hard when its eating away at your brain.

[–]HiddenHerald 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

Don't worry that much about it, even Vox is starting to shit on SJWs in some of their articles. We will most likely see some of the political left distance themselves from them in the 2016 election and some of them embrace them. It will split the liberal vote in the primaries leaving both sides sour and the conservatives will take the presidency giving the left something to actually worry about rather than have them eat themselves.

[–]fromthebackofthefilm 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is what I've thought is going to happen since about 2013 when this stuff started escalating. It's the same thing that happened in the late 90s with "political correctness", and on the other side the same thing that happened with the Republicans and the Tea Party a few years ago: the extreme end of the spectrum and the moderates split the vote leading the other side to victory.

[–]Uioppa 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

I did exactly this a couple years ago, but it was unfollowing all the SJW blogs I followed on Tumblr instead of unsubscribing from subreddits. The nonstop righteous anger had become more exhausting than satisfying, so I decided to take a break in order to bring some positivity into my life again. And I'm really, really happy I took that break because it helped put a lot of the bullshit I'd internalized as an SJW into perspective. It only took a couple of months for my self-esteem to skyrocket back to where it was before I got sucked into radical feminism, and it was incredibly relieving to be able to focus on my own life instead of getting angry about all the injustices happening in the world.

Seriously, right now is probably the best possible time for you to take a break from everything. I realized that not everything is sexist/racist/homophobic/etc., so maybe you'll realize that the SJWs aren't actually as prevalent as you think they are and that the world isn't going to become a 1984-esque dystopia.

[–]drivedup 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

Could you elaborate on that?

[–]Uioppa 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

What exactly do you mean? Do you want me to elaborate on my time as an SJW, why I quit, or why I think it might be a good idea for OP to take a break from TiA/TiAD?

[–]metalmartyr -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yes.

[–]Uioppa 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

This turned out to be a lot longer than I thought it would be, sorry! D:

tl;dr: My time as an SJW was by far the worst period of my life. I got into it because I was an insecure 14-year-old, and I got out because I was sick of everyone being so angry and pessimistic about everything. Being in an overly negative environment warps your view of the world, so please take the time to analyze whether or not the communities you are part of make you happy.

I got a Tumblr when I was about 13, but I didn't get into social justice stuff until about a year later. I was at a really vulnerable time of my life when I discovered radical feminism - I'd just realized I was a lesbian, I had very few friends, and I was suffering through my first onset of depression. I basically had no self-esteem to speak of, so an ideology that put me on a pedistal for the things I was insecure about was a dream come true. I could blame all my problems on the "heteropatriarchy" (I wish I was making that up...) and just wait for the world to change to accommodate my minority status.

Because I was pretty much the definition of an impressionable teenager and I spent almost all of my free time on Tumblr, I internalized a lot of really harmful ideas (many of which I'm still trying to unlearn) without even realizing it. The world was black and white, or more accurately, "progressive" or "problematic." There was no room for nuanced discussion or compromise, only revering something as perfect or tearing it apart in a fit of righteous anger.

This way of thinking was easy at first because I was young and had very few world experiences, but it became progressively harder and harder to immediately stop liking things once they became "problematic" - especially when it came to people. According to Tumblr, "problematic" people weren't trustworthy and should be cut out of my life as soon as possible. I was already isolated because of how shy and socially awkward I was, and the list of people I felt I was morally allowed to like grew smaller by the day. But the problem was that even if I felt like I shouldn't like someone, I couldn't change the fact that I did. I still loved my family, friends, and teachers even though they couldn't meet my impossibly high standard of political correctness, and this filled me with shame. Activism had become part of my identity, so it was humiliating to feel like I had failed at it.

I hated myself for being a bad activist, but I also hated myself for being part of a few majority groups, since I believed that majorities were inherently "worse" than minorities. As much as people on Tumblr like to say otherwise, the Oppression Olympics is a very real and a very dangerous phenomenon. The worst thing you can be is privileged according to Tumblr, so even though I was gay and female, I was still told I was personally responsible for racism and transphobia because I'm white and cis. And deep down, I actually wanted to experience a trauma so I could claim the right to call myself an abuse victim.

Let that sink in: I, an emotionally vulnerable 14-15 year old kid, wanted to be abused so I could impress people I didn't even know on the Internet. I was so lonely and I hated myself so much for being privileged that I thought something terrible needed to happen to me in order for this fucking piece of shit community to accept me.

I grew more and more bitter and withdrawn, and it eventually led to an official diagnosis of dysthymia (which made me happy because it meant I could now call myself "mentally ill"). Things continued as normal for a while, but once the depression started to lift, being offended and enraged by everything became more exhausting than satisfying. I started to realize that a lot of what offended everyone was fucking stupid, and that regular people belonging to majority groups were not personally responsible for all of the world's problems. I unfollowed a lot of people, blacklisted everything to do with social justice, and decided to just focus on making myself happy for a while.

And it turns out that my life is pretty fucking great. I have a fantastic family, friends who care about me more than I realized, and there are so many good things about myself that I overlooked in my perpetual angst. I grew more in those couple months away from Tumblr than I had in my whole 2.5 years as an SJW, and I regret so much that I didn't spend those years taking advantage of what life had to offer. Now I'm back on Tumblr, but as an anime/humor blogger rather than an SJ one.

Basically, my advice for /u/MedievalTortoise is to really examine what you get out of participating in the TiA/TiAD communities. I'm not saying that I think these subreddits are bad or anything like that, but I know from experience how damaging it can be to surround yourself with nonstop negativity. If worrying about SJWs is stressing you out this much, it might be a good idea to take a little break and distance yourself from all this stuff. Then if you decide to go back after a while, you might be able to approach things from a better state of mind.

[–]metalmartyr 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was a great read, and I appreciate you taking the time to write it out. My wife pointed out to me the other night that when I start reading all of the stories about fucked up things that the evil feminists do and watch videos of groups of them screaming at people in the streets and pulling fire alarms, I get pissed off. That made me realize that it just isn't worth it. These nutjobs (on both sides) are a very vocal minority of extremely negative, extremely unhappy people. I decided to not waste my time focusing on whatever the current mouthpiece is outraged over and I've been much happier because of it.

I'm glad that everything worked out well for you. Not everyone has the common sense and self reliance to pull themselves out of the cult of self inflicted misery.

[–]SteveLithops 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey, I had a similar experience with an SJW community. If you ever want to talk about it, feel free to PM me or whatever. In my experience a lot of SJW circles effectively operate like cults so it can be kind of rough acclimating once you've freed yourself from that mindset.

[–]Ivanpilgrim -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Maybe this is not a proper question to pose to you specifically, it's just that I really appreciated the way in which you phrased your question, so I wanted to ask:

Would you happen to know a subreddit sort of in the middle of the two extremes? I've searched but I can't find one. I sort of levitate between srs and tia because both feature stuff that is legitimately crazy in their opponents view, and stuff that seem like legitimate grievances and or/ points of ignorance and lack of empathy. Ironically it's for the same reason; when srs is making sense it's because they're reblgging crazy people on the radical, deluded right, when tia is making sense it's because they're reblgging crazy people in the radical, deludes left. TiADiscussion levels that out to an extent, but there is still plenty of bonkers posting (in my personal opinion more so in the right column)

[–]blolfighterdvorak-kin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know a subreddit like that. I'm not even sure it can exist. People are drawn to factionalism.

[–]pm_me_your_molars 10ポイント11ポイント  (6子コメント)

I would suggest subscribing to blogs like Return of Kings and Matt Walsh for a while, and you'll quickly realize that despite all the radical crazies on the left, there's enough radical crazies on the right to balance them out.

[–]Junoh315Mod-kin 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

At first I was wondering why you'd suggest Return of Kings to someone but that's not an entirely bad idea with your reasoning.

[–]pickelsurprise 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah, I got a little scared. If TiA gets to the point of defending or recommending RoK for serious reasons, I think I'm out.

[–]Junoh315Mod-kin 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Unless they're downvoted, right?

[–]pickelsurprise 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, I figured that was implied. Basically if TiA crosses the threshold where the majority of the sub defends something like RoK in spite of how crazy it is.

[–]MRB2012 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Matt Walsh is crazy, but he's not ROK crazy.

[–]TheHairyManrilla 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I read a great column by him that dissected the "if you can't handle me at my worst" saying. It was really well thought iutand sensible. Then at the end it linked to his blog. Top post: Obama is definitely not a Christian" second post "net neutrality will destroy the internet"

Then the crazy stuff makes me second guess the sensible stuff.

[–]Aquareon 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

If so, let the bombs drop. I'm ready to receive them.

[–]terrymcginnisbeyond 9ポイント10ポイント  (14子コメント)

I think this is a common feeling, and I do get the feeling you're quite anxious about this.

Don't be too worried. If you're on TiA and here you're likely exposed to more of their rhetoric than most people, so you're likely to notice it more. Take a deep breath, not everyone's like that. We don't need to prove the virtues of egalitarianism, of freedom and the right to be offended, and to be happy, those things have proven themselves time and again, and I believe they're the right virtues we need in order to have a brighter future. Also SJW's will tear into each other just as much as they will at anyone else.

SJW's are anti-intellectual too, do you remember the 'Protein World' debacle? Where's that now? I'll tell you where, lining Protein Worlds pockets, and most SJW's are of complaining about Caitlyn Jenner or some other bull crap. People hate feminists, they hate SJW's and there are a tonne of people fighting back against them, and trust me soon, the feminists and SJW's will fuck up badly and those blogging and vlogging about them will be all over it.

And if they do succeed look at it this way, there was a time when Nazi Germany and anti-Semitism was marching across Europe, unstoppable, and one island said 'no', and what do people think of Nazism and anti-Semitism today?

[–]MedievalTortoise[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (13子コメント)

That is true, but here is the thing. Places like San Francisco in their current state are why I feel like this. SanFran is full of youths and people who fall for this SJW mindset and I was talking to my friend about this earlier today and said his school was full of them. Also, on this sub people have said that places in Northern and Central Europe have been ruined by SJW ideals. To be honest I'm still scared shitless but ill try to chill out some more. Also I'm curious what your take is on those reports if you don't mind.

[–]terrymcginnisbeyond 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

Which reports do you specifically mean, before I reply?

[–]MedievalTortoise[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

Just about what I said in SanFran and what people have said is going on in Europe. Sorry I worded my question so strangely and that it's rather vague.

[–]terrymcginnisbeyond 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

No it's Ok, I'm with you now. Well I'm in Britain and we just had the whole Goldsmiths university / Bahar Mustafa fiasco here. The thing about people like Bahar Mustafa or Saida Grundy, is that they have managed to find a university or organisation that supports them, whilst the wider community denounces them, meaning it's usually a toxic atmosphere within a university, not that the entire country or area supports them. More people actually signed the change.org petition to remove Bahar Mustafa than they did to support her, unfortunately the decision lay with the university where she's 'diversity' officer, so she managed to keep her job, even though most people in Britain would gladly see her lynched.

When you're young, at school or university you're still impressionable, I was very liberal and ill informed as a teen and into my early twenties too, a lot of people are, but a lot of people grow up and grow out of it, and even if they broadly believe in certain things, they're not so moronic about it. We in the anti-SJW community can be just as guilty of blowing things out of proportion too, or thinking everything said that even sounds remotely SJW like must be wrong and bad, so again, the atmosphere in places like Europe and the US can be just as much something that's being over-exaggerated too. I still believe in equality, in welfare and universal healthcare, but I'm not like some angry Marxist though.

In the long run though politics are always changing, things go in and out of fashion, so yes, today things may appear to be going feminazis and SJW's way but that's not always going to be the case, my analogy about the Nazi party was to demonstrate to you and others that just because everyone else is turning crazy or becoming overly zealous bigots we don't have to, we can make a difference too, even if we're in the minority. Going back to what I said regarding Britain in WWII standing up to the Nazi's, remember whilst Britain seemed to be standing alone, we did find allies, in your own country, the US, and in the former USSR (maybe not the best ally though, that last one), and we were able to grind the third Reich to a halt, and now people only remember the Nazi party with disdain and sometimes even as comic parodies. This is what will happen to the SJW's maybe not so violently, but they'll continue to overstep the mark and people will continue to walk away from them, we'll continue to mock them, they'll eventually be discarded to the trash bin of history like all other bigots and racists.

In Europe like the US most people don't even know about 'inter-sectional feminism', the patriarchy or Marxist-anarchists. I have a mate, she's in her early 20's not especially well educated, and if I had her here now and I asked her if she knew what these things are or asked if she knew about tumblrina's etc, she'd probably just keep shaking her head wondering what the hell I'm going on about, like a lot of my friends. All she wants to do is, earn some money, get high on the weekend and have a laugh with her mates, and I think there's a lot to be said for that, and I think most people are like this, feminazi's can say what they want, institute whatever they want, that doesn't mean that people will give a damn. I'd say to you enjoy your leisure time, have a laugh and take time away from TiA, play some video games, hang out with your friends. If you want to actually work against SJW's go to College (Uni) out of SF if you can, get a good a career, maybe in law if you're not at Uni yet, and volunteer with the poor if you can. Never lose your friends that aren't as fortunate, or not as 'smart' and enjoy life. That's my plan anyway. I don't want this to become overly Tl;dr, or go over every countries stupid laws, just wanted to give you a general idea of what most people are really like 'on the ground' so to speak.

[–]MedievalTortoise[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks, I really appreciate the advice. It's just that, I'm a person with a really dark sense of humor but at the end of the day knows it's all a joke. And seeing this whole movement that is labeling people like me as bigots, racists, and misogynists scares me and pisses me off because I know that's not what I fucking am. Once again thanks I really appreciate it. One thing I also wanted to ask from your earlier post is how did the whole Protein World fiasco show that SJWs were anti-intellectual? I'm not really up to speed on that.

[–]terrymcginnisbeyond 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Protein World is a company that makes those protein shakes that body builders and gym bunnies drink, basically the company ran an ad campaign on the London Underground, with a attractive fit girl. Well of course the SJW's went crazy because the ads tag line was 'are you beach body ready?', so fresh off their success in guilting a bleach company (Clorex bleach), they decided to twitter bomb Protein World, their CEO decided to take the piss out of them, it was pretty funny to be honest, the feminists aren't used to people biting back.

Really I should have expanded on my anti-intellectual comment, sorry. The feminist remarks about the ad were all about 'why can't fat people be fit too' etc etc. Suggesting being overweight and fit is healthy is clearly wrong, I'm overweight, but I'm dieting and at the gym etc, but I'm not healthy really, but love the support I get from my GP and I think I'm doing well, SJW's want to stop people being healthy, despite science saying being healthy is a good thing, and of course a slimming product is not necessarily marketed at everyone. This is anti-science, and of course anti-intellectual.

I also meant that feminists, tumblrinas and SJW's have short memories, they forget this weeks 'big campaign' and move on to the next thing really quickly.

[–]The_DonavenThis sub is bipolar 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

On the topic of Bahar Mustafa I was under the impression she wasn't fired because within the university there wasn't enough protest of anger to persuade the student union (or some other similar organization, I didn't follow too closely) to actually reprimand her.

[–]terrymcginnisbeyond 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Whilst there was widespread condemnation of her within the media, social media and in the country, it was up to Goldsmiths University Student Union to vote and remove her from her post, unfortunately it's not the first time Goldsmiths has appeared under the TiA radar as it's a very a 'liberal' college with nearly no STEM field courses, so the number of students who actually had the power to do something about Mustafa, (those at Goldsmiths) didn't turn out to make a vote of no confidence, which is sad. So you're right the student union supported Bahar Mustafa.

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A vote of no confidence of Bahar Mustafa wouldn't have just seen her reprimanded but would have resulted in her dismissal.

[–]auandi 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

I assume you don't actually live in San Francisco right?

No one there is trying to take away rights, no one's trying to shut down humor, most people you meet will not even have heard of an SJW. SJWs are an internet created threat. No one is for censoring media or prohibiting good natured jokes or mockery.

The other problem being, "SJW" has morphed on reddit into a term that means very different things to different people depending on the context.

My suggestion, take a breath. Realize this isn't a threat. Realize nothing you mention (media censorship and banning jokes) are part of any mainstream movement anywhere, not even liberal San Francisco.

[–]zerodeem 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

No one there is trying to take away rights, no one's trying to shut down humor, most people you meet will not even have heard of an SJW. SJWs are an internet created threat. No one is for censoring media or prohibiting good natured jokes or mockery.

This isn't true at all.

Just take a look around here https://www.thefire.org/ for starters.

Rolling Stone rape hoax and Mattress Girl are two examples of SJWism in the mainstream.

[–]auandi -4ポイント-3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Rolling Stone rape hoax and Mattress Girl are two examples of SJWism in the mainstream.

And neither of those are trying to censor anything. They aren't trying to shut down humor or censor the media.

[–]zerodeem 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Take a look around the fire website and the cases they have listed.

[–]auandi -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I did, and nothing on there points to any mainstream movement trying to do what OP claims they are trying to do.

[–]notsoviet 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also, on this sub people have said that places in Northern and Central Europe have been ruined by SJW ideals.

As someone who doesn't frequent /r/TIAD, can I get a recap?

[–]Guomindang 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

Of course social justice will become the dominant ideology. Why are all the comments here in denial?

Social justice is a militant ideology present in virtually every university, where there exists an academic empire devoted to marinating the best and brightest minds in "radical" politics. Its recruits become the next generation of the cognitive elite, using their careers in the information apparatus to spread their ideology to the lower classes, causing public opinion to shift further over time. Already, some of their once crazy ideas have leaked into the liberal consensus.

Social justice will succeed because it is a social lubricant. In the cities of the ruling class, there is no social circle in which professing a love of humanity and hatred of oppression will earn you anything but respect and status. In any country in any era, one's opinions tend to align with one's self-interest. If you're an ambitious, intelligent, wealthy, young Brahmin, what better way to signal your membership in the cognitive elite than by demonstrating your familiarity with the latest intellectual fashions? Social justice has always been radical chic.

Social justice will succeed because it provides the sensation of power. There are few pleasures as primal as ganging up to destroy your enemies, further amplified by righteous justification.

Social justice will succeed because it is an adaptive mutation of our present beliefs. Over the past two centuries, anti-racism, anti-sexism, etc. have been elevated to the highest of virtues, yet the inequalities they seek to abolish still seem to persist. Clearly, a higher dosage is needed. Thus, the next generation of "socially conscious" citizens must be even more anti-racist, anti-sexist, etc. than the ones before. Social justice fills that demand.

Basically, social justice is the latest fashionable crusade to which all right-thinking people will flock to to signal their boundless generosity of opinion in pursuit of their class interests.

Why fight history? I, for one, am content to watch this madness take over the world. Then at least I can say, I told you so, you fscking fools.

[–]the_leander 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's tempting to agree with you, but as someone who grew up in the 80s, I've seen this all before. Oh it wasn't as extreme due to the lack of Internet reinforcing it all, but the mindset and desire for social control was present. By the end of the 90s it was rightly relegated to the butt of jokes and actively rejected by a populous sick of busybody know it all's speaking down to them. Even today there is a very powerful pushback that shows just how limited this movement is - the Chick-fil-a response showed this perfectly: the net result of the sjw demands for punishment were met by the public as an infringement and the company actually got more business as a result of the protests.

Gamergate and Metalgate showed the same thing: the moment these hipsters step out into the real world and attempt to subvert other people's subcultures and businesses, they are vehemently rejected by those groups now.

And the cycle will continue.

I can understand the OP's frustration, but the best advice is to simply take a break - switch off the computer, go out with some friends, have a beer or three and do the stuff that makes him happy. It'll help him build some perspective that he desperately needs right now. I myself am looking at going to a traction engine pull in a couple of months, because they're fucking awesome spectacles.

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Careful there. Elites typically want to look good, be fit, be sexy, and have similar partners. As social justice marches towards fat acceptance the fat and ugliness acceptance aspects of feminism, the elites will find a serious aspect of their lives threatened. They don't mind if someone is gay or some woman likes to focus on her career, but they will want a fit, pretty partner. When a bunch of pink hair fatties tell them that if they want to be called progressive they should find them sexy or else they are oppressing them with their patriarchical standards, they will not put up with that.

In other words, I expect a regression to the mean. As usual. Thankfully we will not hate gays or working women again. But we will not also accept oppression as an excuse for anything.

[–]GlobeLearner 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well, the fifth principle of Indonesia's national ideology, Pancasila, literally says 'Social Justice for All Indonesian', but I don't see Indonesia becoming an SJW hellhole.

Or you might be being sarcastic now.

[–]Guomindang 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Likewise, the People's Republic of China is led by a nominally Communist party. Indonesia has changed a lot since the Bandung days. For that matter, so has social justice.

[–]GlobeLearner 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What Bandung days and changes do you refer to?

[–]The_Archagent 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Being an SJW is a lot of work, and most people have better things to do than keep up with today's batch of pronouns and banned words and pseudo-trigger warnings. That's why it will never truly become mainstream to the extent that we see it on Tumblr. We'll probably pick up some bits and pieces of it; we just have to hope they're the good or harmless ones.

[–]Autumn-Moonlight 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I doubt it. Most kids don't use Tumblr.

[–]strawberrylime13 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even if it gets to be that way, consider this:

Remember the Prohibition? They successfully managed to ban alcohol, but that never actually happened. It just went underground, where it became more fun. Everything is more fun underground. You'll be like this regular person by day trying to avoid the Tumblr overlords, but by night you'll be like sneaking around being all badass.

I'm being kind of facetious, but I wouldn't worry too much. Even when things change they pretty much stay the same

[–]AngryPeopleHereMastermind of the radical post-modernist agenda. 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

No, that's a bit melodramatic.

This is all just another internet phenomena.

Worst thing that could happen is that some progressive-populists will waste tax payers dollars on poorly thought out legislation.

[–]zerodeem 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Worst thing that could happen is that some progressive-populists will waste tax payers dollars on poorly thought out legislation.

I don't really get why you are trying to hand wave that as a non issue.

The campus rape culture panic and the madness behind it being enshrined into law would be a terrible thing.

[–]CoMaBlaCK 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's already happening, the more people get dragged into the fire for doing things they disagree with, the less likely people will be willing to do them again.

Shock comedy will be none existent and the only forms of entertainment will be sjw approved.

[–]Sordak 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well i know alot of you say they wont. But thats not true for every place. In alot of countries in europe they are already shaping culture, talking about Britain and Sweden primarily.

and of course Germany but that has completley different reasons.

[–]EuphemiaChoosesLife 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No. People in general are reasonable, the problem is that the internet is full of the unreasonable ones who shout loudest.

As another poster said, have a look around Return of Kings and think about how many people like that you know in real life. I'd guess very few - it's the kind of place that makes you wonder where the internet even gets all these crazy people from. That's how the majority of society feels about SJWs, if they're even aware of their existence. Most of them won't even have heard of terms like 'cultural appropriation' and 'transmisogyny' unless they're in very specific environments (e.g. deep in that part of tumblr, or part of a politically-minded social group in academia). Sure there are a few cases that have made big headlines, like Mattress Girl, but so are there on the side of the right-wing loons, like that guy from 19 Kids - I could pull up a hundred posts from other subs that 'prove' conspiracies from every side of the political and religious spectrum, it's just that these are the ones we focus on here.

It's really important to keep into perspective how the people featured here fit into the bigger picture of society. If we don't then we're in danger of ending up on the other side of the coin to those SJWs who claim to be afraid to go outside because all men are violent misogynists.

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[–]barbadosslim 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Idk maybe take some classes in ethics and gender studies or read some books if you have the time.

[–]Binkleheimer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The answer is no.

They aren't going to be a major cultural influence in the least.

You have to consider that the internet truly skews your perception of what is major. You look at TiA and see it has over 200k subscribers. Which is a lot. That's a lot of people tuning in... When you think about what we're used to on a daily basis.

But the Earth holds 7 billion people and climbing. Even the good old USA has 318 or so million people. Even if all the subscribers came from the United States, that's a drop in the bucket.

It's insignificant. Puny. What you see here is simply one thing of tumblr. You're only seeing the SJW blogs and otherkin and the like. You're not seeing all the porn blogs, the art blogs, the nazi blogs, the food blogs, the redpill blogs, the supremacist blogs, the warhammer blogs and so on, so forth.

You only think it's a major thing because it brings in views. If you look on the news, you constantly see stories about violence in USA and the RAMPANT CRIME.

Except violent crime has been falling steadily since the 90s.

And truth be told? The fact you see it as "winning" as if it's some kind of culture war is... kind of sad. I think a large part of your problem is your mentality on how you view the 'SJWs'. I mean, for every Melody Hensley in that movement, there are probably nine kids with good intentions but bad executions (This is hyperbole and a number pulled out of my ass, but it's to demonstrate that not everyone is loony). You can't go around viewing them as horrible monsters out to ruin all fun forever. As you can see, it's clearly affecting your mood. A lot of them are kids. For a while, especially when TiA liked to link about pages and only about pages, I saw that many of them were fourteen to about seventeen. There were some in their early twenties but very few beyond that. I mean, we're talking about the majority of them being teenagers who are likely in the usual cringy teenager phase that many will just grow out of.

But you really should step away from the sub for a few months. Unsub from it if you are subbed, step away from anything remotely related to SJW stuff. Because this is all reactionary. Meant to showcase what is considered the most extreme. The same with mainstream news. It's all about getting the views.

tl;dr No.