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[–]its_not_funny 233ポイント234ポイント  (152子コメント)

I am calling bullshit on that. Texas has one of the highest poverty rates in the nation. A small percentage of Texans may be "doing well", but a larger number of them are not.

[–]freemovies4all 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well Houston, Austin, San Antonio, Dallas, Fort Worth are all doing very well. Hell Plano, Texas outside of Dallas is basically the model for large prosperous suburb. Of course people living in the country are worse off, there isn't much oppritunity there.

[–]loudnoises461 220ポイント221ポイント  (80子コメント)

A lot of that is concentrated in the Rio Grande valley along the border where illegal immigrants and first generation immigrants have settled and their poverty brings down the average of the rest of the state. Edit: Context http://imgur.com/7F1tw6P

[–]MyAltAltAcct 21ポイント22ポイント  (7子コメント)

There's a good portion of east texas, especially the rural areas that are just as bad as the Rio Grande valley, it's really bad up in the ArkLaTex

[–]rosatter 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

All along the Louisiana border to the Gulf is fucking terrible. I'm from Southeast Texas and I fucking hate it there. It's a racist, impoverished, drug infested, bible thumping swamp covered, mosquito filled shithole.

I'm visiting my sister in Orangefield for a week. Can't you tell I'm super fucking excited?

[–]hereisnoY 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wow, just looked at Orangefield on Google Maps street view. I'm sorry.

[–]rosatter 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's very rural and poor, there for being so close to other shit.

[–]bleak_new_world 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Why go to orange when you could go to Vidor? Its the only place in east tx where even white people don't get out of the car.

[–]rosatter 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

We actually grew up in Vidor. I moved all the way to Illinois to get the fuck out. I'll be visiting a former teacher of mine in Vidor, next week.

[–]just_a_tech 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You should visit the "Golden Triangle" in SE Texas sometime...

[–]dovaogedy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wait, so they just don't count or something?

[–]Inebriator 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

are illegal immigrants even counted in poverty figures?

[–]tjcastle 21ポイント22ポイント  (48子コメント)

I live in the Rio Grande Valley. Sure we're behind, but we are developing pretty fast. businesses like Chipotle and Chick-fil-a are building multiple locations down here.

This area gets a lot of flak from local residents, but honestly it's a decent place to live considering $550 will get you a 2-3 bed/2 bath apartment/month.

[–]GumdropGoober 263ポイント264ポイント  (28子コメント)

businesses like Chipotle and Chick-fil-a are building multiple locations down here.

Not... not a measure of wealth you wanna use to indicate wealth.

[–]msthe_student 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well think about it, it means that:

  1. There are people in that area with money that those companies want.
  2. Those companies opening means more jobs.
  3. More jobs means more wealth.
  4. More jobs means more people
  5. More people will have to buy from other companies (Chipotle doesn't sell you car-repair-services, so you find someone who does)

[–]thumpymcwiggles 118ポイント119ポイント  (20子コメント)

that is the rural america way of measuring prosperity. whatever shitty chains want to set up shop you welcome with open arms. it means you've arrived.

[–]Squonkster 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

As a lifelong Texan I always measure the size of a small town by its number of Dairy Queens. Spent some time in a one-Dairy Queen town when that and a couple of gas stations were literally the only retail locations around.

[–]dyslexda 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wisconsinite here. There are towns with multiple DQs?

[–]thumpymcwiggles 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Driving on the state roads that is definitely how to measure. Intersection, town, dairy queen, gas station, then you're through the town and back into nowhere.

[–]minidanjer 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

In New England, we measure it by how many Dunkin Donuts' you've got in one town.

[–]hillbilly_trash 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I remember when we got a Wal*Mart. That's when you have arrived.

[–]sothatsathingnow 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

They filmed a few movies in my little western PA town and then all of a sudden our regular Wal*Mart turned into a Supercenter. So watch out Los Angeles, rural Pennsylvania is gunning for you.

[–]mutatersalad1 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

shitty chains

Both of those restaurant chains are fine.

[–]FeauxSheaux 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

You can say whatever the hell you want about Texas, but how dare you call Chick fil a shitty.

[–]barlister 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's shitty, and just as bad as all other cheap fast food.

[–]FeauxSheaux 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gasp Blasphemy!

[–]Rivers_On_Fire 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, except it's not.

It's expensive as crap, and it may not be the best for you, but it is freaking tasty. Plus the workers are nice, and they're usually really fast.

[–]its_not_funny -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

And it comes with that a side of hatred for the gays. No wonder it is so popular in Texas.

[–]barlister 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

It only hates the gays that don't buy it and also that don't say they are straight and don't try to get health insurance and don't be gay.

All other gays are fine.

[–]butchersblade -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dear Chick Filet.... eat more Kale-- cunts.

[–]flash__ 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't think you could have sounded more condescending if you tried.

[–]thumpymcwiggles 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll give it a go next time. Rio Grande Valley stuck out to me. Wife's family is from there. Love rural America but it certainly has its...idiosyncrasies.

[–]42601 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, it kind of is.

[–]barlister -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is "kind of" a unit of measurement?

[–]RedditSucks_VoatUP -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

and they will take whatever minimum wage they make for a shitty burger, i mean literary in this age, you got to be f.... stupid to pay 1/10th of your average minimum wage earning per day for a burger meal that cost around $7-8.

And lets further consider the fact, their health will only suffer, not like it doesn't already.

[–]Rivers_On_Fire 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Neither chick fil a nor chipotle sell burgers.

[–]tjcastle 25ポイント26ポイント  (1子コメント)

it's more so a way of saying we're getting ourselves "on the map".

[–]WeaponizedDownvote 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The where can I stop to eat while driving through this shithole map?

[–]KILLSBITCHES 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think it's all that bad. Have you seen Chipotle's stock price? America really likes their burritos.

[–]el_guapo_malo 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sure it is. Have you seen either of those in a small town out in the middle of Mississippi?

[–]L8sho 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't disagree with your point, but Chik-Fil-A has been in some small MS towns for decades.

There isn't a Chipotle in the entire state.

[–]tjcastle 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We also have a med school opening up. So we've got that going for us too.

[–]loudnoises461 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Eh I lived in Carrizo springs for a year and you couldn't pay me enough to go back.

[–]FreshPrinceOfNowhere 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

we are developing pretty fast. businesses like Chipotle and Chick-fil-a are building multiple locations down here.

Can't tell if you're joking or it realy is that sad.

[–]CANOODLING_SOCIOPATH 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a sign of development. For economically depressed areas new businesses are a major sign of growth.

[–]ares7 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's sad, all there is to do is eat! Seriously, every new building being made is a bar/grill or fast food place

Edit: You have to make your own fun, I stalk ducks at the park.

[–]johnlocke95 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its serious. I live in rural Texas. It was a big deal with WalMart upgraded to Super Walmart.

[–]tjcastle -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

We've got South Padre going for us lol...really hot spring break spot.

[–]wellitsbouttime 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What?!? 550? that's wonderful.

[–]ibangonkeytars 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wait, what?

Unimaginable!

[–]Craznor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well fuck me. Here I am happy to afford a one room apartment with a shower and a kitchenette for about $420

[–]Webo_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Chipotle and Chick-fil-a are building multiple locations down here.

That's because so many people are below the poverty line, they place fast food restraunts there because cheap and fast appeals to the poor who have less time and money to spend on food. As well as this, the high turnover rates and unskilled labour in fast food locations means they'll never be short of workers.

[–]NoCardio_ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

People with office jobs eat too, and Chick-fil-a lines are to the road around lunch time.

[–]Ozarkian 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Man, I love the RGV.

[–]Good_ApoIIo 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Fuck off, where I live a 3 bed apartment costs $3,500/m. ;[

[–]seawied 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

San Jose?

[–]Good_ApoIIo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Correct State, but down south. I was born there though! -_-

[–]abmo224 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah but you probably have way more Chick-fil-a locations

[–]johnlocke95 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Then move. There are plenty of jobs in Texas.

[–]Roast_A_Botch -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Hey Y'all, we got a Wal-Mart, we're big city now WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!"

[–]threeclaws 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

Why would you blame illegals when CA has double the population but still a lower poverty rate, if the issue was just illegals then we should be far worse off.

[–]TurboSalsa 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

California has massive economic problems of its own.

[–]threeclaws 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Higher household and per capita income, 17% of GSP is debt (compared to texas with its 16%,) still has the highest GSP by a good margin, etc.

Things aren't fantastic but frankly that's true for the entire country at this point if you're average you're ahead of the curve. This of course has nothing to do with illegals being the cause of a high poverty rate though which is what I was replying to.

[–]TurboSalsa 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

California's poverty rate is 13.2% compared to Texas 16.2% so I don't think they should pat themselves on the back too hard, especially considering their higher per capita income.

[–]threeclaws 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

A 20% reduction is a significant difference.

[–]TurboSalsa 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

So is a 50% increase, which is how much higher California's unemployment rate is than Texas'.

[–]rocknroll1343 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

True yes, but that doesn't make it okay. Poor starving people are poor starving people. I hope that the Texas legislature does more to help them than just trying to arrest them and send them back.

[–]loudnoises461 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

True yes, but that doesn't make it okay. Poor starving people are poor starving people. I hope that the Texas legislature does more to help them than just trying to arrest them and send them back.

I'm sorry it may sound cold but we need to take care of our own we don't have the resources to become the soup kitchen for the world.

[–]glass_daggers 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Our social indicators, from education to child mortality, are still shit. If you normalize out the Hispanics and blacks then yeah 'Texas' is doing well but I don't think that really helps the argument.

[–]rosatter 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ima call bullshit. I'm from Southeast Texas and the poverty there, along with the lack of education, is disgusting.

The Beaumont-Orange-Port Arthur area is one of the most miserable places in the country to live and certainly among the most miserable places in Texas.

There's a huge crack, meth, and opiate problem in that little pocket east of Houston. Add in Hurricanes fucking shit up every few years and you have people living in half dilapidated drug houses.

Source:grew up in half dilapidated drug house, wasn't the only one.

[–]Roast_A_Botch -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

So "All of Texas is doing well" is a false statement then. California also has a huge immigrant population, as well as poor blacks, and isn't anywhere near Texas on the scale, so you can't blame it all on Mexicans. Lastly, illegal immigrants aren't taxed so they're not represented on federal poverty measures.

[–]Texanshateme 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Texas has the 12th biggest economy in the world and the 2nd strongest in this country. Who gives a fuck if some idiot on the Internet is 'calling bullshit.'

[–]fishgoesmoo 30ポイント31ポイント  (25子コメント)

I thought you were kidding but you're actually right. Texas has the 6th worst poverty rate in USA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_poverty_rate

[–]loudnoises461 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Context http://imgur.com/7F1tw6P

[–]TurboSalsa 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

The part that touches Mexico is the poorest, weird. It's almost as if there were some trend that could explain that.

[–]mrbobsthegreat 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Give me a minute and I'll find a way to tie it to the GOP.

[–]johnlocke95 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Texas has a very large immigrant population.

[–]M00glemuffins 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Damn, that list makes me proud to be a Minnesotan.

[–]mrbobsthegreat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Diversified economies tend to weather downturns in the economy better. Texas is pretty narrowly based.

[–]dontworryimhigh 65ポイント66ポイント  (22子コメント)

As a Texan that's bullshit. Jobs are plenty if you're a skilled worker. Making a living wage is pretty easy considering we have a relatively low cost of living.

[–]JaehaerysTheWise 37ポイント38ポイント  (1子コメント)

Shit. I'm from Louisiana, and I have been on 4 different turnarounds in Texas. There is plenty of work, that's for sure.

[–]the-usual-unusual 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep baton Rouge right here and I spend just as much time working around Baytown as I do BR. The problem isn't lack of economy it is lack of people willing to work. I am 25 and have never went more than a week without work.

[–]bulldoozer 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reddit hates Texas and anything remotely conservative or southern

[–]fishgoesmoo 15ポイント16ポイント  (9子コメント)

Wiki says you guys are the 6th worst poverty rate in the U.S. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_poverty_rate

[–]iushciuweiush 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well you wouldn't let them build a border fence right? That's going to happen when illegal poor immigrants flood into a state. Maybe, just maybe, the 38-46% poverty rate right along the border isn't helping?

[–]griffeny 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Texas is a border state. I'm not saying that it's a good thing, however.

[–]johnlocke95 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thats because we have a large migrant population.

I mean, we could kick out all the migrants to make ourselves look better, but they work hard and they are way better off here than in Mexico.

[–]balancespec2 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea why the fuck do we include immigrants or people with immigrant parents in those stats. It skews them horribly.

[–]bulldoozer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Common sense that's what happens when you border Mexico

[–]totallynotfromennis -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Good thing our nation's capitol isn't a state, though. It's managed to beat Mississippi...

[–]greensparklers 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well comparing a city to a state really isn't really useful comparison.

[–]ChatGarou 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

In Houston or Dallas, sure. But try finding a job in Beaumont that pays even close to a fair wage. Texas is a big place. The two biggest metropolitan areas are not a good measure of the rest of the state.

[–]oldcrow 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't know why, but I read that in the voice of Hank Hill.

[–]hobowithashotgun2990 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Be careful, you don't want to fuck up the anti-Texas dutch-ruddering. DFW has been fantastic to my carpet-bagging ass.

[–]HazMat68W -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Texas is one of the few states that could develop and run its own currency and be fine.

[–]totallynotfromennis 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is due in part to impoverished and isolated communities in the Panhandle, communities in the Rio Grand valley filled with first-gen immigrants, and the dismal socioeconomic situation in East Texas.

And on a bit of a side note, the cost of living is much lower in Texas than in many other parts of the nation. So while there may be a higher concentration of impoverished people in the state, they're less likely to be so severely strapped for cash thanks to the affordability of goods, transpiration, and housing.

[–]-izac- 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was afraid someone was gonna mention the panhandle.

[–]COMMENT_DESERVES_Au 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

You've heard of the border, right?

[–]PinataBinLaden 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Texas is doing fantastic. We've done the most recovering from the recession.

[–]its_not_funny -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Texas has the 5th highest poverty rate in the United States (6th counting the District of Columbia).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_poverty_rate

[–]lofi76 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's the corporations that are flourishing. Just be a corporation! People are so last-century...

[–]bulldoozer 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Small percentage? Lol get the fuck out. Strongest economic state in the country

[–]akci 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

having driven through west texas... it's definitely not all doing well.

[–]Rommel79 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, man. You can totally see everything you need to know about a place simply by driving through it. Forget those of us that live here and are telling you that you're wrong.

[–]thetunasalad 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

West Texas is booming man. We got Lubbock, Amarillo, Midland-Odessa. There are plenty of jobs down here

[–]AceBobcat -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree, West, Texas certainly is booming

[–]brokenhalf 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

West, Texas is not in West Texas.

[–]me_gusta_poon 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unless you're talking about El Paso you're demonstrably wrong

[–]The-red-Dane 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I believe what was meant, was that if Texas became it's own country, it would still have an economic surplus, meaning, Texas as a state is giving more than it receives. The state has a higher economy than South Korea or Australia.

So, yes, Texas is doing well, people in Texas might not do so well.

[–]jmcdon00 -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

They also have the highest rate of uninsured.

edit: fixed a word

[–]its_not_funny 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I am assuming that you MEANT to say that they have the highest rate of UNinsured.

Texas is at the absolute bottom of the country when it comes to health insurance for their citizens.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_insurance_coverage_in_the_United_States