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Jesus Is an Anarchist

Discussion in 'General Political Discussion' started by James Redford, Jan 21, 2015.

  1. James Redford

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    "However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory."--Paul, 1 Corinthians 2:6-8, NKJV.

    "But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ's at His coming. Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power."--Paul, 1 Corinthians 15:23,24, NKJV.

    For much more on what Paul wrote about in the foregoing, see my below works:

    My following article demonstrates the logically unavoidable anarchism of Jesus Christ's teachings as recorded in the New Testament (in addition to analyzing their context in relation to his actions, to the Tanakh, and to his apostles). It is logically complete on this subject, in the sense of its apodixis.

    James Redford, "Jesus Is an Anarchist", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Dec. 4, 2011 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2001), 60 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1337761; PDF, 312715 bytes, MD5: ff45387b1b2ed9d6dec411d5328abdd6. http://ssrn.com/abstract=1337761 , http://archive.org/download/JesusIsAnAnarchist/Redford-Jesus-Is-an-Anarchist.pdf , http://theophysics.host56.com/anarchist-jesus.pdf , http://webcitation.org/66AIz2rJw , http://pdf-archive.com/2013/09/10/redford-jesus-is-an-anarchist/redford-jesus-is-an-anarchist.pdf

    My article below is complementary to my above article:

    James Redford, "Libertarian Anarchism Is Apodictically Correct", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Dec. 15, 2011, 9 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1972733; PDF, 118091 bytes, MD5: e6de8181ad84c9d96400bb9582311c79. http://ssrn.com/abstract=1972733 , http://archive.org/download/Liberta...yCorrect/Redford-Apodictic-Libertarianism.pdf , http://theophysics.host56.com/Redford-Apodictic-Libertarianism.pdf , http://webcitation.org/63xyCLjLm , http://pdf-archive.com/2013/09/10/r...arianism/redford-apodictic-libertarianism.pdf

    Very much related to the foregoing, see my following article on physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler's Omega Point cosmology, which is a proof (i.e., mathematical theorem) of God's existence per the known laws of physics (viz., the Second Law of Thermodynamics, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics), and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything (TOE), which is also required by said known physical laws. The Omega Point cosmology has been published and extensively peer-reviewed in leading physics journals.

    James Redford, "The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Sept. 10, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), 186 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708; PDF, 1741424 bytes, MD5: 8f7b21ee1e236fc2fbb22b4ee4bbd4cb. http://ssrn.com/abstract=1974708 , http://archive.org/download/ThePhys...TheoryOfEverything/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf , http://theophysics.host56.com/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf , http://alphaomegapoint.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/redford-physics-of-god.pdf , http://sites.google.com/site/physicotheism/home/Redford-Physics-of-God.pdf

    For anyone who has ever wondered about such questions as what the meaning of life is, what the purpose of their own life is, whether there is life after death, whether God exists, what the future holds for humanity, and why anything exists at all as opposed to nothingness, then this article answers all of those questions using the known laws of physics.

    This article further provides an examination of the globalist political power-elite: history is given on their organizational structure and their methods of accumulating power; and analysis is given on where they're attempting to take the world, i.e., their self-termed New World Order world government and world religion.

    The article furnishes documentation on what the globalist oligarchy's ultimate goal is. This ultimate goal of theirs most popularly goes by the name of transhumanism: immortality through technology. However, I explain in the article that the coming radical life-extension technologies create a fundamental dilemma for the oligarchs, which is why they must dominate world society before such technology becomes a reality. The details of that dilemma are explained in Sec. 8.2.2: "The Mark of the Beast" of the article.

    Thus, this article explains to people what is to occur and why it is to occur, so that they will not be in ignorance as to the events that are to unfold.

    Additionally, in the below resource are six sections which contain very informative videos of Prof. Tipler explaining the Omega Point cosmology and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model TOE. The seventh section therein contains an audio interview of Tipler. I also provide some helpful notes and commentary for some of these videos.

    James Redford, "Video of Profs. Frank Tipler and Lawrence Krauss's Debate at Caltech: Can Physics Prove God and Christianity?", alt.sci.astro, Message-ID: [email protected] , 30 Jul 2013 00:51:55 -0400. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.sci.astro/KQWt4KcpMVo , http://archive.today/a04w9 , http://webcitation.org/6IUTAMEyS The plain text of this post is available at: TXT, 42423 bytes, MD5: b199e867e42d54b2b8bf6adcb4127761. http://mirrorcreator.com/files/JCFTZSS8/ , http://ge.tt/3lOTVbp
     
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  2. Albion

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    Many have tried, but it's pretty hard to argue that Jesus was some sort of Anarchist when he was basically unpolitical and, when he did speak about government, instructed his followers to "give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's" -- i. e. taxes.

    :)
     
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  3. James Redford

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    For more on this subject, see Sec. 4: "Jesus on Taxes: Nothing Is (Rightly) Caesar's!", pp. 10-11 of my following article:

    James Redford, "Jesus Is an Anarchist", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Dec. 4, 2011 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2001), 60 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1337761; PDF, 312715 bytes, MD5: ff45387b1b2ed9d6dec411d5328abdd6. http://ssrn.com/abstract=1337761 , http://archive.org/download/JesusIsAnAnarchist/Redford-Jesus-Is-an-Anarchist.pdf , http://theophysics.host56.com/anarchist-jesus.pdf , http://webcitation.org/66AIz2rJw , http://pdf-archive.com/2013/09/10/redford-jesus-is-an-anarchist/redford-jesus-is-an-anarchist.pdf

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    "However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory."--Paul, 1 Corinthians 2:6-8, NKJV.

    "But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ's at His coming. Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power."--Paul, 1 Corinthians 15:23,24, NKJV.
     
  4. Winchester

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    @ James Redford

    What's your point James? Do you try to invent a new kind of theology - an "Anarchist Theology"? Do you want to write a new Jesus-book like so many other writers did before you and who tried to change HIS teachings, rewrite who he really was and is? Do you really think you will change anything (any church teaching about HIM) by making Jesus the way you want HIM to be?

    With Regards
    Winchester
     
  5. Froesler

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    Be careful about everything you read about Jesus corcerning politics. Jesus wasn't a political activist of any kind.
     
  6. James Redford

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    Hi, Winchester. As Paul wrote (1 Corinthians 2:6-8, NKJV):

    ""
    However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
    ""

    And (1 Corinthians 15:23,24, NKJV):

    ""
    But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ's at His coming. Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.
    ""

    For much more on what Paul wrote about in the foregoing, see my following article, which demonstrates the logically unavoidable anarchism of Jesus Christ's teachings as recorded in the New Testament (in addition to analyzing their context in relation to his actions, to the Tanakh, and to his apostles). It is logically complete on this subject, in the sense of its apodixis.

    James Redford, "Jesus Is an Anarchist", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Dec. 4, 2011 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2001), 60 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1337761; PDF, 312715 bytes, MD5: ff45387b1b2ed9d6dec411d5328abdd6, http://ssrn.com/abstract=1337761 , http://archive.org/download/JesusIsAnAnarchist/Redford-Jesus-Is-an-Anarchist.pdf , http://theophysics.host56.com/anarchist-jesus.pdf , http://webcitation.org/66AIz2rJw , http://pdf-archive.com/2013/09/10/redford-jesus-is-an-anarchist/redford-jesus-is-an-anarchist.pdf .
     
  7. Winchester

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    As Christians we believe that Jesus spoke with divine authority and that he was and is able to see what's really going on in peoples heart and soul. So he saw the hypocrisy of the local jerusalem and roman authority of his time that they failed to do their duty which was given them by God to serve the people and the community. You believe Jesus was an anarchist but I, the church teachings and the most Christians believe that he did and spoke that way just because he was and is God himself, the lawmaker and true King of Kings - the one and only true authority to whom all wordly powers and rulers are accountable. It's a matter of faith not of personal preference or politics.
     
  8. Tree of Life

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    Nah. Jesus is a king. Pro-monarchy.
     
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  9. James Redford

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    Hi, Tree of Life. As I wrote in my article "Jesus Is an Anarchist" (Social Science Research Network, Dec. 4, 2011 [orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2001]), pp. 7-8:

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    In passing, it’s important for me to distinguish “Earthly governments” from what is sometimes called the “Kingdom of God” or the “Kingdom of Christ.” In the above discussion I have been analyzing governments as they are operated by men here on Earth—but as I will show, the “Kingdom” which Christ is to establish on Earth will be the functional and operational opposite of any kingdom which has ever existed on Earth before, i.e., it won’t actually be a government in the sense in which I defined above and will in fact be perfectly consistent with the Golden Rule.
    ""

    And as Paul wrote (1 Corinthians 2:6-8, NKJV):

    ""
    However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
    ""

    Further (1 Corinthians 15:23,24, NKJV):

    ""
    But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ's at His coming. Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.
    ""

    For much more on what Paul wrote about in the foregoing, see my following article, which demonstrates the logically unavoidable anarchism of Jesus Christ's teachings as recorded in the New Testament (in addition to analyzing their context in relation to his actions, to the Tanakh, and to his apostles). It is logically complete on this subject, in the sense of its apodixis.

    James Redford, "Jesus Is an Anarchist", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Dec. 4, 2011 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2001), 60 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1337761; PDF, 312715 bytes, MD5: ff45387b1b2ed9d6dec411d5328abdd6, http://ssrn.com/abstract=1337761 , http://archive.org/download/JesusIsAnAnarchist/Redford-Jesus-Is-an-Anarchist.pdf , http://theophysics.host56.com/anarchist-jesus.pdf , http://webcitation.org/66AIz2rJw , http://pdf-archive.com/2013/09/10/redford-jesus-is-an-anarchist/redford-jesus-is-an-anarchist.pdf .
     
  10. The Outlier

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    Jesus said that human order and rules were a failure. Thats not the same thing as telling people not to follow authority, especially if he told people to pay their taxes to Caesar. The Pharisees were considered Spiritual authority. He was against their authority. Since they were not solely a civil authority (although the Romans gave some of them civil authority), Jesus was encouraging civil disobedience only against laws that were morally reprehensible. He was the ultimate spiritual authority so he trumped every spiritual rank in their midst. The logic behind saying he was an "anarchist" is conflated. Conflation is a logical fallacy. If I tell you that abortion is wrong, "conflating" my statement would be saying that being against abortion is the same as supporting the bombing of abortion clinics. Conflation is a type of strawman.
     
  11. The Outlier

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    The other thing is, Jesus didn't really tell people to disobey the Pharisees' civil authority. He told them not to buy into their theology. Big difference. Jesus didn't say "disobey authority." He said to recognize the Pharisees ONLY as civil authority. In other words, He basically said the Pharisees were full of crap; he didn't say not to obey any and every civil law out there. If I say that president Obama is incompetent and philosophically weak; that's not the same thing as not obeying any authority he has.
     
  12. tulc

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    I completely agree with this statement
    which means I completely agree with Albion about something. :eek:
    tulc(thinks that may well be sign of the end times) :sorry:
     
  13. James Redford

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    Hi, The Outlier.

    You are having a public conversation with yourself in your above posts. You are replying to the phantasms of your own mind. You are not replying to anything I wrote.

    The pretended "authorities" of this mortal coil are no authorities as so regarded by God. As Paul wrote (1 Corinthians 2:6-8, NKJV):

    ""
    However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
    ""

    Further (1 Corinthians 15:23,24, NKJV):

    ""
    But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ's at His coming. Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.
    ""

    For much more on what Paul wrote about in the foregoing, see my following article, which demonstrates the logically unavoidable anarchism of Jesus Christ's teachings as recorded in the New Testament (in addition to analyzing their context in relation to his actions, to the Tanakh, and to his apostles). It is logically complete on this subject, in the sense of its apodixis.

    James Redford, "Jesus Is an Anarchist", Social Science Research Network (SSRN), Dec. 4, 2011 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2001), 60 pp., doi:10.2139/ssrn.1337761; PDF, 312715 bytes, MD5: ff45387b1b2ed9d6dec411d5328abdd6, http://ssrn.com/abstract=1337761 , http://archive.org/download/JesusIsAnAnarchist/Redford-Jesus-Is-an-Anarchist.pdf , http://theophysics.host56.com/anarchist-jesus.pdf , http://webcitation.org/66AIz2rJw , http://pdf-archive.com/2013/09/10/redford-jesus-is-an-anarchist/redford-jesus-is-an-anarchist.pdf .
     
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