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[–]Dimethyltrypta_miner 471ポイント472ポイント  (68子コメント)

I should invest in scooty puffs now

[–]jdscarface 113ポイント114ポイント  (2子コメント)

Just remember, Scooty Puff Jr. suuuuuuuuucks.

[–]horriblegb 46ポイント47ポイント  (1子コメント)

In a 1000 years, I'll get right on it

[–]onlymadethis4porn [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Now presenting Scooty Puff Sr. THE DOOM BRINGER

[–]Vagabond21 35ポイント36ポイント  (1子コメント)

reminds me of the episode of King of the Hill where Peggy, Minh and Dale follow Bill shopping and invest in what he buys. They end up making a killing.

[–]begrudged 94ポイント95ポイント  (40子コメント)

And Hometown Buffet. Although they are probably going to have to raise their rates with everyone getting fatter

[–]willee_ 85ポイント86ポイント  (39子コメント)

Think this is already happening. Grandparents invited me out to Golden Corral and I was surprised that they were charging $12/person to eat their garbage called food.

[–]ToxinFoxen 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

South of the border, you're so spoiled for cheap food prices. Here, for a decent all-you-can-eat menu (not many of this type, mainly Japanese food), it starts at $11 or $12 for lunch.

[–]deez_treez 106ポイント107ポイント  (8子コメント)

I'm going to miss this subreddit. :(

[–]-out 21ポイント22ポイント  (4子コメント)

And oversized toilets and other funiture. Invest in home delivery services and pharmaceutical companies which manufacture pills which treat diabetes and depression. Invest in Amazon, whose drones will fly food and pills to the bedridden. Invest in the companies which will rebuild our plumbing systems for the government....Oversized coffins, Hot Pockets, Internet/Video Game/Entertainment companies, and, when it becomes legal under the guise of mental health, prostitutes to service the obese, available to order online.

[–]Krona74 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or cheesy poofs.

[–]OP_IS_A_MARICON 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

no no no, motorized 4 seaters, better roi and pharmaceuticals.

[–]westward_jabroni 182ポイント183ポイント  (130子コメント)

For heart conditions and other weight related illnesses being the number one cause of death in this country, they are also the most preventable. I don't know if it requires a culture change or an education change, but this trend is highly concerning. I hope one day it changes and the trend is reversed, but for right now, overall, it is appalling how this country as a whole eat, diets, and treats concern for preventable diseases.

[–]PainMatrix 81ポイント82ポイント  (30子コメント)

I think it's increasingly clear that there need to be large scale shifts in public policy (including how we handle food subsidies, etc.). We have not as individuals demonstrated the ability to change this on our own. It's just insane how complex this issue is as you can see from this model.

[–]EllenPaosUpperLip 64ポイント65ポイント  (5子コメント)

It's just insane how complex this issue is as you can see from this model[1] .

I thought that was gonna be a Tess Munster link...

[–]IamGusFring_AMA 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think reducing corn subsidies would help a great deal. Do you need HFCS in your salad dressing, ketchup, Ragu, etc?

[–]Odlemart 45ポイント46ポイント  (13子コメント)

it is appalling how this country as a whole eat, diets, and treats concern for preventable diseases.

Agreed. But what’s even more appalling is the reaction from some Americans when leaders try to change the situation. God forbid the First Lady attempt to point out the obesity epidemic and create programs to promote a healthy diet for kids.

You caint tell us what to do! I thought this was ‘murica! You’re nutin butta arrogant SOCIALIST! Wadder you gunna do next? Lockus up fir havin’ a Big Mac!?

I mean, seriously. These people are fucking retarded.

[–]MrMcKraut 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

I feel like although we make fun of the stereotypical southern American loving fat guy, the real people we should be mocking are the yuppie rich city tumblrites who call every health tip "fat shaming"

[–]princetonwu 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't know if it requires a culture change or an education change

It's hard when people like to euphemistically replace the reality of being "obese" with simply being "big boned", or pretend that obesity is just "genetically determined" and therefore nothing they do would change it.

edit : forgot to add that there was a case of a doctor who told his patient that she was obese, and then she complained to the medical board for him for being "unprofessional".

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/9063638/ns/health-fitness/t/doctor-trouble-calling-patient-obese/#.VYh5P_lVhBc

[–]johnlocke95 13ポイント14ポイント  (6子コメント)

Cultural change. For instance, in Japan obesity is seriously looked down upon. And social acceptance is important there, as a result few people are overweight.

[–]pomegranatejuize [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I don't see any way this happens. I'm not telling you anything you don't know, but the concern with the way one is perceived goes way beyond obesity in Japan. There is an expectation that you take care of yourself and make yourself presentable in public. There could not exist a Japanese equivalent of the website peopleofwalmart. They have shame, is basically what it comes down to. Many Americans have no shame.

I agree though that culture is the culprit and cultural change is the solution, I'm super pessimistic about it though.

[–]MagicGin 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

  • I don't know if it requires a culture change or an education change

Both, as well as potentially legal changes. There's a lot of people out there making good money on false health claims. There are people profiting off of the idea that you can't lose weight because genetics and GMOs and et cetera. These people are going to continue to delude others for profit as long as they're allowed to do so and, as long as they are allowed to do so, people who have issues with things like stress and personal responsibility will continue to buy into it.

Being frank, nobody with a strong sense of personal responsibility and a healthy mind makes it to >40% bodyfat. It's just not achievable. Mentally healthy people will take charge and recognize the problems long before they reach that kind of metric. If we want to deal with obesity, we need to step up and deal with the people spitting lies.

[–]Girlyouhate 19ポイント20ポイント  (36子コメント)

I don't think it's education. I think people are just real fucking fat and lazy and like to pretend they can't help their gluttony. It's definitely our culture. It's socially acceptable to be chubby and people are too polite to point it out so there is no real consequence.

[–]NoPatNoDontSitonThat 25ポイント26ポイント  (28子コメント)

I'm not sure this is always the case. I worked with a girl who wanted to lose weight. Broke down crying at an evening dinner in front of a bunch of us because she just didn't know how. Someone there decided to take her under her wing and help her lose some weight.

The girl had no idea how to enjoy vegetables. To her, vegetables were always gross and something to be discarded. The Helper Friend grilled some sockeye salmon and mixed vegetables for Fat Girl to have for lunch one day. Fat Girl got a bottle of Cheeze-Whiz from the breakroom fridge and squirted a mound of it all over the salmon and vegetables and then acted excited that she had a healthy meal.

So maybe it's not just education but I don't think it's purely laziness either. If you live all 30 years of your life eating nothing but junk food, sugar, and low quality cheap fast shit and then try to switch to something more nutrient and calorie based, it's going to be insanely difficult.

[–]abacabbmk [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Problem is, a majority of people are lazy and make excuses. Or argue against science/doctors/nutrition, and seemingly have all the answers, none of which actually result in weight loss. They just play the blame-shift game and expect people to agree with them that they are not responsible for their problems. Worse yet, these same people perpetuate ignorance and false-facts to others who like you say, just dont know any better, which only compounds the problem.

[–]Girlyouhate 12ポイント13ポイント  (11子コメント)

I'm not saying it's not difficult but that's life. Our culture is ridiculous the way it coddles. Life is difficult, suck it up. If the hardest thing in your life is eating less icecream... I truly don't know what to tell you. And most people have access to the internet with infinite information if it's truly a priority for them to lose weight. The sad reality is most don't want to put in effort so they don't care. Unless this girl is genuinely slow there's no way she doesn't understand how to count calories. Perhaps she's the exception?

[–]still_natty01 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe this will help curb overpopulation.

[–]the_joker_34 146ポイント147ポイント  (37子コメント)

I've lost 80 pounds over the past year, and it was only because someone actually started to educate me on how nutrition works. We need to start teaching nutrition and calorie counting in schools

[–]xnerdyxrealistx 25ポイント26ポイント  (17子コメント)

I remember learning this kind of stuff in elementary school back in the mid 90's. Did they stop teaching it or something?

[–]friendlyfire 80ポイント81ポイント  (7子コメント)

The only thing I was shown in school was a food pyramid that said carbs should be like 50% of your diet.

[–]neocommenter [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah, weren't you supposed to eat like four loaves of bread a day, minimum? Shit was ridiculous,

[–]ambark37 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Between bloggers clickbaiting and people selling crap so many people think calorie counting is a dinosaur and that the only way to get fit is by paying thousands of dollars for some fad diet pill/organic magic vegetable/super p90 insanity x 5000/ etc. In addition, people vastly overestimate the differences in metabolism in terms of its effect on weight. So, even though they do teach calorie counting, it's buried under all this crap.

[–]Commandophile [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well very clearly it's people like you we need to see more of. Congratulations on your success, you are awesome.

[–]Gravon 97ポイント98ポイント  (77子コメント)

maybe there should be a shift in schools where they teach kids nutrition and make fruits and vegetables more easily available and cheaper than junk food. At 27 I am finally doing something about my weight and wish I could have started sooner and hope to influence my niece in the right direction.

[–]Girlyouhate 22ポイント23ポイント  (11子コメント)

There's no way kids are getting obese off one lunch a day. Even if they're eating crap 5/28 meals a week there's no way that rings true. Also you are not going to get kids thin only eating healthy 5/28 meals a week. It's learned behavior from the parents and totally up to them. Not saying healthy school lunches won't help, but this is misplaced blame.

[–]Gravon 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I kind of mashed my thoughts into one sentence, it wasn't hat kids are getting obese from one meal at school but their overall knowledge of nutrition should be better so they make better decisions about what they eat all day long.

[–]Girlyouhate 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree with that. Thanks for clarifying.

[–]Steel50 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

100% parents fault. They normalize eating trash all day.

[–]thedaytuba 79ポイント80ポイント  (15子コメント)

Michelle Obama got laughed to kingdom come for suggesting fitness and reviewing nutritional guidelines, not to mention that her sponsored law has been subverted by the cost-cutting goals of educational food procurement. Instead of making healthier food, they made smaller, cheap meals.

There are already "nutritional ambassador" programs in schools as well.

The Obama-hate pretty much sunk her concerted efforts to unfat America. Instead of progress we got "pizza is a vegetable" and "lol she's telling people to eat healthier?"

[–]schoofer 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I went to a school nutrition tradeshow a few months ago (I work for an equipment dealer) and received a crash course in how school nutrition works. In other words, I learned about how they know what they can serve based on nutritional requirements and cost.

It is a nightmare. A total, fucked up nightmare. It's easier to procure approved processed fruit bars (giant fig newtons with dozens and dozens of highly processed ingredients) than it is to serve fresh foods. I have to stress that it IS getting better, but holy fuck, I decided then and there that when I have kids, I am always going to pack their lunches and snacks. Or I'll send them to an alternative school like I went to, which had a full-on farm, so at the very least you learn to value produce.

[–]Gravon 11ポイント12ポイント  (6子コメント)

Which sucks because there is a definite issue afflicting our country just like the income inequality issue which I think plays a big part in the obesity problem.

[–]cptEvasion 27ポイント28ポイント  (10子コメント)

Add meat/nuts to that too. The easiest way that I've found to eat less is to eat things that trigger the 'sated' response in the body & brain. Protein and fat (both found in meat & nuts) are the most effective at this.

Sidenote: make sure to eat your leafy greens if you eat like that, your asshole will thank you.

[–]Gravon 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

I moved from eating chips and drinking soda while at work to eating celery, bananas, apples and drinking water. I realized that my diet was a lot of brown foods and my body needed some color in it and the pounds are just melting away. Now I just need to get a bit more active and I would probably start losing a lot more weight.

[–]Steel50 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you want to lose weight, you need to cut carbs as low as possible. Eat lots of meat, cheese,veggies cooked in butter. salads with olive oil, vinegar and lemon.

High fat, low carb. it controls your hunger, and most importantly insulin levels. That's the only issue I have with people switching from candy to fruit, you are still eating too much sugar to lose weight.

www.dietdoctor.com/lchf

[–]GrumpyFinn 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I find that, the more colorful my plate is, I'm really happy. If I have a big salad with spinach, manderin oranges, red onions, etc, all of the colors put me in a great mood. Conversely, I find burgers to be a bit sad.

[–]harpyson11 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

uhh...do you think Americans don't eat enough meat? Jesus, we don't have enough planets for everyone in the world to eat as much meat as Americans eat. And now you're actually advocating for more meat consumption. This is not sustainable. Maybe if we get in vitro meat off the ground.

[–]TheBaronOfTheNorth 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Also try eating oatmeal for breakfast. It will make you feel full longer and it will most likely have fewer calories than most other breakfast foods.

[–]marineaddict 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's ridiculous that a box of oatmeal cream pies cost $1.50 while a small container of cantaloupe costs $3.50 at my dorm store

[–]xHeero 7ポイント8ポイント  (11子コメント)

What the really need to drill into kids is that weight loss is about calories in vs calories out. Nothing else really matters when you are talking weight alone. If more young adults had that drilled into them as a kid and accepted it as fact, there would be a lot less miracle diets, or fat loss pills, etc...

[–]Seusstein 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've been making veggie and fruit smoothies with my nieces and they love them. Probably because they get to help drop everything in the blender and they think it's fun. A little education can go a long way.

[–]NoMoreNicksLeft 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

maybe there should be a shift in schools where they teach kids nutrition

I was in elementary school in the 1980s. They taught their dumb bullshit then, they teach dumb bullshit now, betting they did it in the 1960s too.

But making kids memorize the food pyramid, or being able to name the fat-soluble vitamins... this won't have any effect on weight. I'm not sure why you think it would.

[–]twistedfork 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

They don't use the food pyramid anymore, they've changed to "my plate" which actually IS easier for kids (and adults) to understand.

[–]EmAyeTeaTee 328ポイント329ポイント  (265子コメント)

This is one of the few articles I'll actually take at face value. At my job, I would guess there are 80% obese people, 15% heavy people, and 5% fit people.

I made a suggestion that we put a vegetable vending machine in the break-room, along with a juicer. People laughed. I suggested a treadmill. They laughed.

[–]NeatHedgehog 195ポイント196ポイント  (98子コメント)

There are... hmm... six people here who are not overweight, one or two who are slightly overweight, and the other 15 are all between 75lbs and 150lbs overweight.

They're almost all on "diets" that they gigglingly "cheat on, because they earned it", talk about food constantly, and announce every month or so that they "lost two pounds this week", not apparently realizing that a few pounds are well within normal weight fluctuations in that time-frame.

[–]shouldnbeonreddit 66ポイント67ポイント  (19子コメント)

Workplaces are the worst when it comes to fitness and health perspectives. I was asked how I'd lost weight. Said I watched what I ate. Coworker told me it couldn't be that, it must be all the snowboarding I do. I was actually rather offended because I'd been focusing on my physique quite a bit at the time. Writing off my accomplishments as being due to my age and spare time/cash to do something for fun as the reason I'd lost weight was just kinda a smack in the face.

[–]DStoo 31ポイント32ポイント  (4子コメント)

People think their bodies violate the laws of thermodynamics.

My wife and I went down to a continental breakfast and saw a fat kid eat at least 1000 calories. They were mostly 'healthy' foods but at the end of the day it's still 1000 calories. I had 2 bananas and a handful of blueberries.

That "Only 130 calories/serving" only matters if you actually eat just one serving which for most cereals is 3/4 cup not a 3 cup bowl brimming with fruit loops.

This kid was ~12 years old and weighed more than I did when I wrestled in highschool. WTF people.

In-Out=Net.

[–]Ofactorial [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

I think one of the biggest bang-for-our-buck changes we could make as a country would be to pass legislation requiring that nutritional info on packaging actually be for the entire contents, not just some bullshit idea of a "serving" that's a fraction of what the average person would consider an actual serving. Our current system makes it too easy for people to think they're eating 130 calories when in reality they're eating 700.

It's ridiculous to see labels on snacks like nuts and candy (which, yes, we all know are high in calories, but most people don't know how high) that list their calorie content as just a hundred-something calories, with "per serving" in tiny print next to it with an explanation that the manufacturer considers a "serving" to be 3 pieces of candy out of the entire box of dozens that are obviously intended to all be eaten in the same sitting. Or labels on microwave dinners or canned food where there are as many as half a dozen servings in what is presented as a single meal.

[–]Caesah 18ポイント19ポイント  (6子コメント)

I find uni worse than work personally. Work never puts up HAES posters or has events for it.

[–]DJCzerny 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

What uni do you go to that you have HAES events? They would have gotten laughed out of my campus.

[–]Caesah 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

Canadian one, most people are either too polite to do anything, or are fat sadly.

[–]Daldidek [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

God damnit guys we were doing so good. I'm sorry but what the fuck's wrong with us?

[–]NeatHedgehog 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

If they'd accepted that it was largely a result of self-control, "watching what you ate", then that would have meant they didn't have a good excuse. If they can rationalize that it was due to factors that existed for you and not for them, they can say "oh, well, I can't do that one key thing, so obviously it's not my fault I haven't made as much / any progress".

[–]shouldnbeonreddit 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, I'm well aware of how the mental gymnastics work. Doesn't make the dismissal of my success any less hurtful.

[–]ifindmyselflonging 87ポイント88ポイント  (63子コメント)

I feel like we're having some dirty /r/fatpeoplehate discussions in secret.

I've seen my weight go up and down almost 10 pounds during the day. Salty foods, water, dinner, needing to poop, consumer-grade scale, etc. All those things make our weight change throughout the day.

Consistent average weight decline over 4 weeks is a bit more reliable.

[–]Badass_moose 319ポイント320ポイント  (29子コメント)

I'm sorry but dude, if your weight is fluctuating nearly ten pounds in a day then you need to go to the goddamn doctor.

[–]chemical_refraction 109ポイント110ポイント  (8子コメント)

Except Thanksgiving. That day lies.

[–]Badass_moose 29ポイント30ポイント  (7子コメント)

Haha good point. Why the hell would you weigh yourself on thanksgiving? I feel like that's just asking to be disappointed.

[–]ichbinladen 36ポイント37ポイント  (5子コメント)

I like a before and after snapshot; trying to beat the high score.

[–]CHECKtheCLOSET 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

Try cutting off a leg to achieve a high score.

[–]TrainOfThought6 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think the high score they're talking about would involve holding someone else's severed leg.

[–]commiecomrade 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

He didn't say cut off your leg, just a leg.

[–]Pinkcorazon 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

My husband does this. Weighs himself before we go to our first thanksgiving dinner then again when we get home after going to a few dinners. (Both sides of our families have dinner and his parents are divorced.) He's extremely thin so it's kind of like a personal challenge.

[–]Dyr0nejk2 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Idk I'm someone who sweats a lot, but can also retain an obscene amount of water. My face can go from cut and fairly chiseled to mildly chubby in a day. I've seen fluctuations fr 185-195. I have no health problems that I know of, the only thing that might make sense is that I used to be 25 lbs over weight and my body can more easily stretch.

[–]aDAMNPATRIOT 15ポイント16ポイント  (13子コメント)

Nah, he's right. If you're holding a lot of water weight, plus a healthy poop, and you sweat it all out... and poop, 10lb is easily doable for a fit, 200lb man. I think my "best" was 12lb in a day lol

[–]NeatHedgehog 31ポイント32ポイント  (15子コメント)

Yeah, I hope I didn't come off too badly there. I mean, I don't have a problem with people who know they are fat and are cool with it.

It's the self-deluding, food-obsessing culture some people share on a daily basis that just weirds me right out; the psychological aspects, less than the physical. I've known people who insisted they could wake up in the morning weighing more than when they went to sleep, and that was their explanation for why it was impossible for them to lose weight. It's like reverse anorexia or something. there's probably a real term for it, but I don't know it off-hand.

[–]shouldnbeonreddit 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's like reverse anorexia or something. there's probably a real term for it, but I don't know it off-hand.

Binge Eating Disorder (BED) is (I believe) in the most recent DSM and (as I recall) described as a cycle of bingeing followed by self-pity, half-attempted diets, self-delusion, and then more bingeing.

[–]Jivatmanx 25ポイント26ポイント  (5子コメント)

When nearly the majority of people in a society suffer from something it doesn't get a name. Anorexia does because it's a small minority. The Anorexic equivalent of Meghan Trainor's "All About That Base" #1 hit or Tess Munster on the cover of People Magazine would have brought down an utter shitstorm of condemnation. We know this, because much weaker glorification of thinness have brought down similar shitstorms.

[–]sequestration 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

Really? Almost every cover features a skinny person. And it seems like every third cover of People is about weight loss, and it often touts ridiculous weight loss ideas and features all sorts of crazy advice and goes to the extreme. No one seems to give it a thought.

[–]Darko33 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't know what it's like in other parts of the country, but around Northern NJ and the NYC metro area fitness-related ads are EVERYWHERE. Gyms popping up like crazy and they always seem full. Health foods being hocked left and right.

[–]Jivatmanx 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

Humans judge pretty much every aspect of eachother, constantly. It's what we do. Literally the entire point of online dating is initially filtering people based on judgements you make about them. I don't know why we've decided that judging people on Height and Income is totally ok but judging them on something that weight, something that costs nothing, takes no time, and something one can go from morbidly obese to healthy BMI in at most, 2 years, is dark and evil.

[–]Girlyouhate 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think that's honestly true only on places like reddit where people are mostly full of shit. In the real world weight is judged harshly, people just don't announce it

[–]Theory5 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that 10Lbs per day fluctuation is... unhealthy. I'm not a doctor, so I don't know HOW unhealthy, but... your body shouldn't be doing that.

[–]ifindmyselflonging 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

"I've seen my weight go up and down almost 10 pounds

So it doesn't happen every day (that's the "I've seen" bit in the sentence) and has been pretty close to 10lbs but maybe not quite (that was the 'almost' bit in the sentence).

From what I've read in health magazines and the one study I found your body will normally fluctuate between 2-4 pounds during the day based on water retention and other factors. It will also add more weight after you've eaten a meal and drank liquids as it takes time for it to digest and stays in your stomach. If you've also got some crap in your bowels and a full bladder you can add on some more weight.

So it's not out of the realm of possibility to weigh yourself after dinner in the evening and see a pretty dramatic shift in weight from the morning.

Here's a cnn post with an answer that sums up all the factors fairly well. The person posting is asking about for an explanation of their own 6 pound change in weight during 1 day. http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/expert.q.a/10/08/water.weight.fluctuates.jampolis/index.html?hpt=Sbin

[–]Theory5 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah, so when you weigh yourself across the board, so to speak, like every day for a week the average is only a couple of pounds gained or lost? That's not bad then, good on you for doing the research!

I weigh myself around dinner time but before dinner (I'm usually going to the gym then, I try to go at least 3 times a week, doesn't always work out though) so I really only have some water weight that'll fluctuate quickly.

[–]Seclorum 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Consistent average weight decline over 4 weeks is a bit more reliable.

This, so much this.

I weigh myself once a week and only track it on that one day. Then I look at averages over months of time.

My mom constantly complains about weight variations in the same day, and she starves herself when it doesn't come up down.

I keep telling her to not starve and to just set a weekly schedule and eat normally. But she's stubborn and headstrong.

I loose weight consistently, 69lbs over the past 6 months, while she frets and get's angry over 34lbs over the same time period and she feels like crap.

[–]ichbinladen 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

"diets" that they gigglingly "cheat on, because they earned it"

Jesus how infuriating. They are only fooling themselves, no one else believes they are trying to lose weight. Greasy bastards.

[–]user_account_deleted 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

Healthy weight loss shouldn't be done at a much higher rate than 2-3 lbs per week. That is a medical fact.

edit: I'm hoping I'm getting downvoted because I OVERSTATED healthy weight loss rates, and not because some FPH crusaders think they know better than the CDC...

[–]TheseMenArePrawns 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

You're misinterpreting what the link says. It's talking about chances of rebound weight gain. There's also no citation for it, which makes it a fairly pointless argument. My assumption is that a lot of that simply comes down to people who lose the fastest also having the most to drop. People tweaking mostly good diets to drop a few vanity pounds are going to have greater overall success than an obese person who tries to make a huge change all at once.

[–]MetalOrganism 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

The thing about weight loss is that it doesn't happen at a constant rate, even if you are working out regularly.

When an obese person begins losing weight, they will lose a lot at first; this is water weight and non-dense surface fats being metabolized for quick energy.

When that initial hump is passed, rates of weight loss typically drop dramatically, to the stead 1-3lbs/week that user_account_deleted mentioned. This sudden decrease in rate of weight loss can be discouraging for a lot of people, and can induce psychological complications that cause abandonment of the weight loss program.

[–]varemia 57ポイント58ポイント  (76子コメント)

A juicer and a treadmill? Juicing has to do with nutrient density, not weight loss, and a treadmill at work is just stupid unless you also have a shower for people to not be sweaty when they return to work.

Still, weight loss is 100% about the quantity of food being consumed, not the amount of vegetables.

Edit: Apparently juicers are in everyone's workplace. Excuse me for being unaware.

Edit2: for those mis-reading what I mean by quantity, I mean quantity as in calories, and by calories, I mean the colloquial which is the most frequently used on food labels to describe the calorie content of food

[–]natha105 50ポイント51ポイント  (40子コメント)

Listen I agree with you in theory... In practice if you eat two pounds of vegitables every day you are going to be a hell of a lot less hungry. You are going to feel pretty friggin full from those veggies and that leaves a lot less room for ring dings and french fries.

Plus per unit volume those vegitables have a lot less callories than almost anything else.

[–]varemia 10ポイント11ポイント  (36子コメント)

So you're saying it's a self-control issue, that vegetables make you less likely to act on impulse and do what actually causes weight-gain, which is eat more than your daily caloric TDE?

[–]BourbonAndFrisbee 31ポイント32ポイント  (12子コメント)

Actually, yes. Veggies are full of the things your body actually craves. Eating sugary snacks might keep your stomach at bay for like...30 minutes, but receiving proper nutrients will actually curb your appetite.

Edit: and to make note of your other comment, a treadmill at work is a great idea. My office has a treadmill, some weights and a bench, a TV with P90X/Insanity DVDs and a ping pong table. Lunch time the gym is a very popular hang out spot. Shockingly, my work place is largely in shape, active, skinny and happy people.

[–]Seclorum 7ポイント8ポイント  (19子コメント)

Yes. Most people don't want to spend the time to cook or prepare food anymore. They want something prepackaged or ready to go.

Portion control is a problem but at the same time people need to accept that they should take some time to prepare proper meals.

Hell, i've lost almost 20% of my body weight in six months by simply changing my diet away from fast food to stuff I prepare.

And it's not like making your own stuff is that hard, it just takes discipline and thinking ahead.

[–]Caesah 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Beyond that people don't read/understand calories, or nutritional information in general and have a "small" snack that's 40% of their daily maintenance.

[–]Odlemart 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

need to accept that they should take some time to prepare proper meals.

Why's that?

What is wrong with prepackage meals and convenience? My wife and I are in our late thirties, and we stay in shape through careful calorie counting and exercise. We go out to eat often, but it’s extremely rare that each get a meal. Most of the time we split a meal for one. I agree that portions are out of control at restaurants, but I ask this question because I’ve seen so many people who seem to have distain for people who consume prepackaged food and don’t take time to cook. We have a relatively busy, active lifestyle and sometimes we want to do others things with our time instead of cooking.

We do cook from time to time, and we enjoy it, but I just don’t get the hate for prepackaged stuff. I mean, whatever works works, right? Honestly, if I could get a healthy nutrient slurry from 7-11 in a bag 3-4 times a day that would give me all the nutrients I need to thrive, I would probably consume that 50-80% of the time and take advantage of all free time I now have available since I’m not thinking about preparing and eating food. I love food, I just don’t want to think about it all the time.

Also, for a lot of people, cooking at home isn’t that healthy either, when all their food is covered in cheese, butter or sugar, and placed on a 2 lbs bed of pasta.

[–]varemia 9ポイント10ポイント  (7子コメント)

I went from 190 lbs to 140 by watching my calories. It had nothing to do with cooking my own food from scratch. It was just portion control. You can eat the same food and lose weight if you just eat less of it. I don't see why this concept is so difficult to grasp for some people.

[–]xHeero 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's hard to grasp because so many people try it an fail, and then discount calorie counting along with all the other diets they went on but failed.

In reality, consuming fewer calories than you burn is the only way to lose weight. Every effective diet that doesn't focus on calorie counting at it's core is just a method of tricking you into consuming fewer calories than you burn anyways.

And then there are things like fat loss pills and miracle diets that are complete bullshit, but people get minor effects from pissing all their body's liquid out their ass and think they lost 5 pounds when it was all just water weight, yet for them it was more effective than any other diet they tried but failed at.

[–]Chew_Monster 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

One million times this.

[–]sequestration 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Maybe not for you. But it's hard for me. And it's also about time, energy, and skill.

I suck at cooking. I try, and I am learning. But it's hard. Especially 3 meals a day, 7 days a week for me and my kid while working, parenting, volunteering, and socializing.

I mess things up, it's not always good, I only have 3 pots/pans, my knives aren't great so chopping is always interesting, my kitchen is tiny and I have to work on the floor or in the living room, I don't always have a chance to go to the store, it gets too late, the people are hungry, I am barely home, I don't know how to cook some of the meals I love or I can't find the ingredients, I end up with a lot of food waste because we often can't finish things.

Sometimes it's just easier to call the take out place and have a hot, delicious meal in 15 minutes. I am learning how to use the crockpot though (still that chopping! I need to invest in some good knives.).

I do pay attention to what I am eating though. Also, I get a lot of exercise, and I stay fit. It can be done.

[–]user_account_deleted 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

Still, weight loss is 100% about the quantity of food being consumed

Weight loss is about the ratio consumed to the ratio being burned. It is a subtle, but important difference.

[–]DStoo 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

  • Want to add weight? Keep your Ratio>1.
  • Want to lose weight? Keep your ratio < 1.
  • Want to maintain weight? Keep your ratio at 1.

It's the laws of Thermodynamics.

[–]MasterGrok 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's rare but some jobs allow treadmills at standing desks so you can walk while you do your work or take calls. I have a colleague with one.

[–]Torgo234 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

My company has a few treadmill workstations set up. Anyone can just bring their laptop over and walk while they answer emails, or whatever. It's a nice idea. Those who use it, use it quite a lot.

[–]masediggityflex 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

I work in tech and you'll find those amenities at almost every company in the industry. My office is stocked with juices & veggies. We also host yoga and exercise classes every day. And whether it's a direct result or not, everyone is fit.

[–]lukeyflukey 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think most people would laugh at a treadmill at work.

[–]myEVILi 27ポイント28ポイント  (1子コメント)

Now wait a minute! You doctors have been telling us to drink 8 glasses of gravy a day.

[–]ByWayOfLaniakea 33ポイント34ポイント  (9子コメント)

Two-thirds of U.S. women and three-quarters of U.S. men are overweight or obese, study says

Healthy weight people are a minority in the USA. That's horrifying!

[–]BestUndecided [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

Maybe all the obese people are hiding in their homes, but most people I interact with on a daily basis are a far cry from obese.

[–]Pirsqed [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I think there is a difference in terminology. What you might consider overweight is often considered obese by the medical community.

[–]graffit0 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's not evenly distributed between locations and demographics. If you're between 18 and 35 and live in Seattle or San Francisco or another urban center, you will see much less obesity than if you lived amongst the middle aged in the South and suburban Midwest areas.

[–]Vagabond21 43ポイント44ポイント  (13子コメント)

I've lost close to 50 pounds since the year started. I'm the change I want to see in the world.

[–]CallMeOatmeal 7ポイント8ポイント  (7子コメント)

Congratulations, awesome job! I'm trying to lose 20 pounds myself. Just started dieting a week ago, my goal is to hit my 20 lb target by August 1st.

[–]GrumpyFinn 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

Living in Europe has shown me how truly the average American diet/lifestyle is. I see obese people (I've always been about 15lbs over the suggested weight for my height), but when I look at pictures my friends and family post on Facebook, the majority of the people are really heavy. Like, really heavy. And it's largely theur own fault I guess, and if they're happy then I guess it's fine. But I think a lot of it has to do with the sheer abundance of terrible food that's marketed to people, and readily available 24/7. We can educate people all we want but until we start physically changing what foods are heavily marketed and abundantly available, nothing will change.

[–]sting129 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I don't think it's strictly a diet issue. I've spent time in Spain and Italy, and those fuckers eat and drink like Americans. But they also tend to walk a lot during the day so they stay in shape. I ate my way through Madrid, Rome and Florence and lost weight simply because I was walking everywhere.

[–]tallerthanunicorngod 67ポイント68ポイント  (7子コメント)

People who actually give a shit stay healthy, people who don't give up and just let themselves go. and go. and go.

[–]PicklePicker3000 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Woooah woooah did you not see what happened in the past weeks?? We can't post information like this anymore under reddit rules. You are going to be banned for harassment.

[–]Darmok_At_Tanagra 223ポイント224ポイント  (57子コメント)

As one of the thin Americans, let them explode. Public places cater more to obese people than handicapped lately. Oh, and being obese doesn't make you handicapped. It makes you lazy and incapable of restraint.

[–]somtimesicry 155ポイント156ポイント  (11子コメント)

It makes it easy for me to be attractive. All I got to do now walk a few miles a day to be one of the good looking people.

[–]FNX--9 8ポイント9ポイント  (6子コメント)

But it pisses me off that people assume were fat. LIke I work really hard for my body and most people online will call me fat if I say I'm American. I try hard god damn

[–]somtimesicry 16ポイント17ポイント  (4子コメント)

I dont give a shit man, it is the internet. If that is upsetting go for a walk in a tank top next to a busy road. Make a bunch of people jealous.

[–]Luminair [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Public places cater more to obese people than handicapped lately.

I gotta say though, I'm enjoying the larger bathroom stalls.

[–]Skudworth 24ポイント25ポイント  (14子コメント)

I feel like the trend this article is alluding to is a trend that will eventually fix the problem.

Let's sit back and let it play out.

[takes a sip of his morning oat/protein/wheatgerm shake]

[–]mags87 14ポイント15ポイント  (9子コメント)

It kind of is a self solving problem with all the health risks isn't it?

[–]Skudworth 15ポイント16ポイント  (6子コメント)

Exactly.

Rift between the overweight and the life-threateningly obese is widening. They won't be around forever.

[–]vierkante 41ポイント42ポイント  (5子コメント)

Your health system's bunged up by the obese. You're paying for them. The problems not going away, it's coming home to roost.

[–]Skudworth 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

Your health system's bunged up by the obese. You're paying for them.

All too true. Hopefully their death rates will outpace their breeding rates.

Short of that, maybe our education system can teach their spawn that an entire bag of cheetos is not to be mashed up and mixed with peanut butter for a light afternoon snack.

[–]atlien0255 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's the problem--obese/overweight parents are obviously not teaching their children how to eat healthy, so it's a never-ending problem. Ugh. I don't have sympathy for those that are overweight because of their lack of self control, but I feel terrible for children that get born into that kind of environment.

[–]Skudworth 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

This, like so many of our issues in the United States, seems to have a magical one-word answer.

Education.

It's a shame we don't believe in magic.

[–]johnlocke95 22ポイント23ポイント  (7子コメント)

Don't forget that Reddit banned /r/fatpeoplehate. Even Reddit is starting to cater to them.

[–]Darmok_At_Tanagra [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

I don't hate overweight or obese people. I hate people that let their lives get out of control and blame everyone else for having restraint. It isn't Krispy Kreme's fault that you ate a baker's dozen of their Boston Kreme doughnuts - it's your fault for not knowing when to stop. Sure there are overweight people with glandular/hormonal problems, but the large portion (no pun intended) are those who lack appetite suppression.

[–]johnlocke95 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Even the glandular problems won't make you obese. Hypothyroidism will only account for 5-10 pounds of weight gain, for instance.

http://www.thyroid.org/wp-content/uploads/patients/brochures/Thyroid_and_Weight.pdf

[–]SoundBearier 150ポイント151ポイント  (25子コメント)

Doesn't this post violate "new reddit?"

[–][deleted] 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

New Reddit Violators is a great name for a hockey team.

[–]ragewithinthemachine 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

"Gordon, center ice... is pushed down by /u/IShitYouKnot... puck recovered by Sokolov... who OUCH! That was a hocky stick up his ass by /u/analprobe!"

[–]supergeek133 68ポイント69ポイント  (139子コメント)

As I say every time one of these comes up, it's always someone else's fault. Never a self-control problem. /s

[–]Seclorum 14ポイント15ポイント  (15子コメント)

In some way's it is a self control problem.

I ate fast food all the time because it was easier, but with my dad's diagnosis of Diabetes and mom freaking out and actually cooking again, we all suddenly and magically started loosing lots of weight and are feeling great.

People dont want to take the time to cook anymore. The necessities of their job and the lifestyle they have, cooking for every meal is not easy.

We have devolved from a nation of workers to a nation of people always seeking the easy and cheap.

[–]Scurro 28ポイント29ポイント  (4子コメント)

We have devolved from a nation of workers to a nation of people always seeking the easy and cheap.

I'll disagree with you there. Nothing has "devolved" about human nature. We have ALWAYS taken the path of least resistance. It is in our nature to be lazy.

[–]Seclorum 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well we have gotten really really good at it.

[–]Scurro 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

And we will get even better at it as we are finding more things to automate.

Maybe we will even find a way to automate our fitness needs.

[–]friendlyfire 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

People dont want to take the time to cook anymore

My grandmother made over 98% of the meals my grandfather ate.

But she could easily do that because she didn't have to work. My grandfather's job allowed him to buy land, build his own house, own two cars and support a family of 4 on his wage alone. He also only worked 40 hours a week and retired with a nice pension at 55.

My father is going to retire in a few years (at 62) with 4 pensions + SS and a 401(k). My mother only worked a couple years here or there over the past several decades.

Things are a lot worse now. Both spouses work, usually one of them is putting in 50+ hours a week + commuting. Throw in kids and it's damn fucking hard to find the time to go to the gym and cook a nice meal.

I don't think people are different. I think family units have a lot less time than they used to.

[–]StalinWasAJerk 9ポイント10ポイント  (13子コメント)

There's also some systemic issues with how food is produced and sold in this country.

That's the problem with all these vaguely libertarian statements, reality is more complicated than just bootstrapping your problems away.

[–]RPrevolution 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

Why do you think people who are not fat are that way if not because they at least have self-control when it comes to their diet?

[–]xnerdyxrealistx 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't have self control over my diet. I just don't have the urge to overeat. I eat whatever I feel like eating. I just don't gain weight because I don't eat that many calories per day and pretty much drink coffee and water exclusively.

If I started to balloon in weight all of a sudden it would be really tough for me to change up my diet since I've never had to really consider it before since I've always been a skinny kid and now I'm a normal sized adult.

[–]dgauss 65ポイント66ポイント  (28子コメント)

I just want to point out you guys are killing the health care system and being paid for by those people who are taking care of themselves. Don't care how popular that is, that is just the truth.

[–]Jivatmanx 8ポイント9ポイント  (6子コメント)

But, But, France. France's universal healthcare system is great. We need that here. Never mind they're the thinnest country in Europe...

[–]ta5655659879870897 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

It is pretty crazy since most french food is richer than pretty much anyones. They just eat fuck all of it.

[–]chloeonR 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm not sure it's only related to "what" we eat but also with "when" we eat. I think most of us are eating 3 time a day, not every night in front of tv, not at the movies, not in the car, not at work... What did you eat today ?

[–]peevee78 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

yay, I'm a minority. I feel discriminated against!

[–]JustDontBeMean 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

But dont worry because they are healthy at any size.

[–]Muschampagne 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

/r/fatpeoplehate is the hero we need right now, or villain. Most definitely the villain we need...

[–]PausedFox 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

In one population I worked with (healthcare provider, this group was 55+ years old and largely, but not entirely, of low socioeconomic status) BMIs of 50 were not uncommon at all. Had ~10 people I worked with that had BMIs in the 70's and I think the heaviest was in the 90's. The 70+ BMIs were largely housebound.

I didn't see as much morbid obesity in my time in the hospital, but most of the ones I did see were usually there for hip or knee replacement.

[–]mfg_colour 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

it's time like these that we need a community to fight back against those that believe there is nothing wrong with this, one that lets people know there is a problem with their weight rather than lying to them. What we need is a hero.

[–]toysoldierxiii 25ポイント26ポイント  (5子コメント)

Once they become an official majority (3-5 years) will we be allowed to start shaming them on reddit again?

[–]MrT-1000 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

No they'll just probably shame us skinny people instead because we'd be the minority. Can I get mod privileges to /r/thinpeoplehate or is that looking too far ahead?

[–]FatalDeath 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

If reddit will even excist by then.

[–]tiamdi 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Time to invest in the stock of whoever makes those motorized scooters

[–]LaughRightBack 14ポイント15ポイント  (9子コメント)

This is not surprising to me since I get ridiculed a lot for weighing my food out and eating clean. I also get ridiculed for spending 1.5 to 2 hours in the gym seven days a week. It's even worse because I lost 60 lbs about 5 years ago so people will call me obsessed. Yeah, I might be, but I'm also not going to die early because of my weight and being lazy, ignorant, and apathetic about how I eat.

It's a cultural issue. When people are shamed for being into bodybuilding or eating clean, there's a problem.

[–]dcm510 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Be proud of yourself - doesn't matter what others think. You'll soon be healthier, fitter, and happier than those making such ridiculous comments. And there are plenty of subreddits here to support you.

[–]LaughRightBack 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oh trust me, I don't care what they say. My life is better in every way imaginable from 5 years ago. I honestly feel kinda bad for them. I'm more than willing to help friends, family, and random people who want to better their lives but most don't.

What I was getting at is that sort of shaming behavior has become the norm and not the exception. At least it seems like it.

[–]Tiki_Torch 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Not surprised. At my workplace there's a special bathroom for morbidly obese people (because we have that many of them here), there's scooters, vending machines with nothing but garbage in them (candy, treats) and almost everyone is obese.

I could be considered overweight going by BMI despite having a flat stomach and some muscle (I just have a bigger build) and I'm sadly one of the most in-shape guys in my entire building.

[–]Roboculon 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Part of the issue is that nobody believes they are overweight because it's just so normal now that being fat doesn't stand out as weird.

I am overweight at 6 feet, 195 pounds, and look "normal." Occasionally I'll mention that I am overweight and need to slim down, and UNIVERSALLY the response people give me is "you're insane!!"

The thing is, I think the reason for that response is only like 50% people trying to be nice. It's also because people really honestly can't recognize an overweight person when they see one --their frame of reference is that warped.

[–]Acidsparx 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fat acceptance guys. This is where we're headed.

[–]BaconR4fitpeople 16ポイント17ポイント  (5子コメント)

Man thats sad.. Without even reading the comments im sure its filled with haes excuses "BMI doesnt work whuaaaahh". Im sure of it,. Because that reason people are so fat, they take no resposibility and keep on coming with excuses.

People are so stupid.

[–]D7inlofi 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

This stuff always makes me depressed, It's amazes me how people defend it too.

[–]ThatBannedGuy 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Let them eat themselves to death. Put all cakes and puddings on sale. The problem will solve itself.

[–]Kingbruddah 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't think these people understand that if society happens to degrade they are the least likely to survive.

[–]lispychicken 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

I was looking at pictures this weekend which were taken around 1970-1980, and a bunch of the pictures included beach pictures, pool pictures and lakes/river pics. Almost everyone in shorts or bikinis, and hardly anyone was fat or even chubby.

What the hell happened?

[–]NightEmber79 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Now that's a growing demographic!

[–]joans34 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Food Channel ratings do seem to be improving...