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FeminismLena Dunham claims that women are rejecting feminism because they were "tricked" into thinking it was bad because as young girls and haven't been properly educated yet (archive.is)

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[–]bertreapot 65ポイント66ポイント  (25子コメント)

"It's important that no one question feminism, only that you blindly accept the dogma of what we tell you feminism is. When women aren't indoctrinated properly, it's very easy for them to be tripped up when actually asked questions." FTFY

Additionally Dunham is an idiot. She is a trust fund baby of trust fund babies, living the entitled life of a wealthy adult-child in Manhattan, her only social connections being with other extremely wealthy adult-children. She has no idea how hard working class males have it, or men and women in the third world.

[–]passiveegalatarian 25ポイント26ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even many other feminists despise her for sexual abuse, racism and classism. They should beg her to shut up if they care about the groups image

[–]JohnKimble111 46ポイント47ポイント  (0子コメント)

She'd certainly know a thing or two about tricking young girls...

[–]vendilion 32ポイント33ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do you know what else young girls are too young for, Lena?

[–]Lucifirius 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

But only men can rape! /s

[–]tygertiger 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

Maybe women are rejecting feminism because they see Lena Dunham promoting it.

[–]NixonForBreadsident 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's really refreshing to see the uproar when shit like this is posted on Facebook, even from feminists, all attacking the page for pushing Lena Dunham.

[–]iainmf 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

Send them to the re-education camps!

[–]Palpetinus 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jawohl mein Führer!

[–]ThePigmanAgain 23ポイント24ポイント  (12子コメント)

If Lorde ( easily the most self-aggrandizing stage name ever ) is this big an asshole at 18, can you imagine what a nightmare she will be at 30? As for women rejecting feminism, it's precisely because they have been educated as to what the filthy thing really is. Both these girls, and Swift and so on, are really, really stupid. While the public shuns Female Supremacism, they are embracing it and, unlike the old feminists, they are going to be here when feminists are looked upon the same way the Klan is now. Within twenty years these girls will all be regretting the foolishness of their youth.

[–]crackinthewall 15ポイント16ポイント  (9子コメント)

Wasn't Taylor Swift sort of bullied to accept feminism? Now she's a celebrated feminist icon because she was now properly educated as to what feminism really means.

[–]saucysaw 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

Eh. I personally think its less bullying and more her being carefully managed and manufactured to be profitable. It is clear that she is bending over backwards to avoid being labeled a feminist at first.

I personally don't think anybody of Taylor Swift's success, influence, and clout could be bullied into any sort of social position. It's all about the manufactured image to be as profitable as possible.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think she did it as another way of portraying herself as a victim so that nobody notices she was born with a silver spoon up her ass. In the short term it's a smart idea, in the long term she'll regret it.

[–]saucysaw 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Interesting theory. Although I don't really foresee any widespread cultural backlash against feminism in the future.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Way i see it, feminism gets huge support from the plutocrats (they are the ones who own the politicians and the media, after all) because it serves them by shoveling women into the workforce, psychologically battering men, and promoting irrationality and harsh laws. As those things become less important due to the mechanization of the workforce and the militarization of the police, as well as the surveillance state, feminism will become redundant and its plutocratic masters will throw it under the bus.

[–]saucysaw -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Definitely a very interesting theory. That gets way too far into future projection for my understanding of the social system. So, I apologize that I cannot offer any substantial comments or feedback.

But, I appreciate you actually having a discussion with me without relentlessly downvoting. I have been getting eviscerated in this thread for my opinions.

[–]SteppeChilde 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Of course these people are products we buy and nothing more. They are commodities, concepts of femininity, being sold to young women.

[–]saucysaw 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Absolutely. It's all about the bottom line. And right now "feminism" is profitable.

[–]NixonForBreadsident 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Eh. I personally think its less bullying and more her being carefully managed and manufactured to be profitable.

It's gotta suck for her handlers. They must be going "NO! DON'T TOUCH THAT FEMINIST SHIT! IT'LL BACKFIRE ON US!"

And now she's gone into a really obnoxious slump that's gone full feminazi and it's cutting into her sales.

[–]saucysaw -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I don't really agree with your projection. Feminism is mainstream now, like it or not. There isn't really anything controversial about associating as one anymore. I would be astonished if her sales drop at all.

[–]passiveegalatarian 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

There was a woman that has feminists tell her that she deserved to be raped for disagreeing with them. If they want more members then they're going about it all wrong

[–]xTR1Cx 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

People will absolutely not compare feminism to the KKK any more than they'll compare the MRA to the KKK, 20 or 200 years from now.

Thats just... Absurd.

[–]Alzael 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

As I've mentioned before,it's inherent to the nature of bigots to assume that every right thinking person will automatically agree with them.

[–]Lucifirius 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Feminists just don't get that no means no.

[–]headless_bourgeoisie 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Women's choices should be respected! ...As long as they are choices that I agree with!"

[–]Imnotmrabut 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

So the pedophilic and socially illiterate Dunham judges all women by her own standards of education? .... and then implies that "they" are dumb, if they are not enslaved by feminist mentality and cultural victimhood?

Why is this antisocial clown being given the time of day!

[–]wilyame 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Feminists consider Mao a feminist, but I think Pol-Pot would be a better fit. Re-education can be fun for the whole family.

[–]Captaincastle 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah i absolutely agree that women who reject feminism probably weren't brainwashed by it growing up

[–]Erociter 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lena Dunham's just pissed in the same way that a Scientologist gets when their potential converts don't want anything to do with her bullshit.

Of course it's ''subversives'' and people who have been ''blinded to the truth'' that are opposing her 'work'.

She's been using her celebrity as a way to contact and then "explain" to women she thinks will help the feminist 'cause'.

Taylor Swift was nothing more than someone Dunham thinks will serve her goals by being a woman with a platform who can spread feminism.

Next time Dunham comes knocking at the door, a female celebrity would be best to shut it in her face. Because her goal is simply to co-opt that person's celebrity for her own ends.

[–]unklestinky 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Our very own fave lady Taylor Swift was a victim of this kind of “gotcha!” question back in 2012, before she fully understood the term.

Or before she was bullied into accepting feminism as her religion.

[–]Dirty_Delta 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

One thing I hadn’t come face-to-face with until I was about 16 was thinking really hard about whiteness and what it means to be white, and all these questions around race and sexuality, which are incredibly important. -Lorde

You know what I did when I was 16? put thought into which military branch I would like to fucking join, because my white male privilage I wanted to do something with myself and earn school money without massive amounts of debt or free handouts.

(And now, I still serve - while attending school!)

[–]Xuan_Wu 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thank you for serving. I plan on doing the same in a few years myself as a Ranger.

[–]Dirty_Delta 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Going to indoc right out of basic is your best bet, I say go for it and see ya around boot

[–]HappyGerbil88 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

feminist who falsely accused a former classmate of rape thinks women don't have any reason to reject feminism

[–]Gstreetshit 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just like much of the left today. You are stupid and uneducated if you disagree with them. This is 101 shit.

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

With every claim like this the first question is to ask is the alternative: Are those who accept feminism the one being tricked, and those that reject feminism are the ones who weren't tricked?

[–]Darkside_ofthe_Sun 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

"properly educated" - Say no more, say no more

[–]Unenjoyed 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

HelloGiggles?

Is that our source for news and information?

[–]victorymonk 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Properly educated". If I remember correctly, Lena's parents didn't really bother to educate their girls and had hands-off approach. I am really not sure who wasn't properly educated. A millionaire with a luxurious loft in SoHo, or the rest of the world.

[–]Meistermalkav 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What? Do they gently need to be fondled and bribed by their older sister?

Who the fuck pays attention to what a pedophile pig like lena Dunham has to say?

Sorry. Not buying it.

[–]mushybees 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

dammit, i used to like Lorde. she's on the shitlist now, along with dunham and taylor swift

[–]owlprowl 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't call myself a feminist for the same reason I don't call myself an atheist: Crazy people, who only stir shit up and don't understand how to live in a society where people disagree with them.

[–]Honeycone 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

properly educated