Sino-centric history = Bastardization of history of China

[Consoleman]

I just saw some documentary of 16th century battle between Ming Dynasty and Mongol (Altan Khan), just I was enjoying the historical documentary I was surprised how this garbage TV documentary was aired because when Chinese scholar was explaining the comparison between Altan Khan and Kublai Khan from the TV documentary, he was claiming that Kublai Khan attacked China and taken control over Beijing and northern states and I was little confused as when Kublai Khan seized control over Beijing, this city was already occupied by Jurchen Jin Dynasty not Chinese dynasty and Chinese Song Dynasty was at far south when this happened. It seems Chinese are trying to paint Liao, Jin and Yuan Dynasty as Chinese dynasties. This is major failed and major distortion of history. Chinese sino-centric view of their neighbors stopped after Qin Dynasty. Because Qin Dynasty was another foreign dynasty of China and not too mention Shang Dynasty which is regarded as oldest state that existed in central China. If we take out all the conquered dynasties from Chinese history, it doesn't have much left. It seems 80% of China's history was conquered dynasty not continuous Han Chinese history. It should re-labeled as fragmented Chinese history. So for Chinese, if happened within Qing Dynasty's territory then it must be Chinese. Chinese need to know when referring to history, it must be explained from the time of the event not from Qing Dynasty's time. Chinese also need to remember that notion of "China" did not existed prior to 1912. And Beijing wasn't center of the universe.

[batman07]

Beijing was already under mongol control by the time Kublai became khan.

Read China whispers.
Chinese like to talk about continuity but in fact it is fragmented.

[Gaemamusa]

I just saw some documentary of 16th century battle between Ming Dynasty and Mongol (Altan Khan), just I was enjoying the historical documentary I was surprised how this garbage TV documentary was aired because when Chinese scholar was explaining the comparison between Altan Khan and Kublai Khan from the TV documentary, he was claiming that Kublai Khan attacked China and taken control over Beijing and northern states and I was little confused as when Kublai Khan seized control over Beijing, this city was already occupied by Jurchen Jin Dynasty not Chinese dynasty and Chinese Song Dynasty was at far south when this happened. It seems Chinese are trying to paint Liao, Jin and Yuan Dynasty as Chinese dynasties. This is major failed and major distortion of history. Chinese sino-centric view of their neighbors stopped after Qin Dynasty. Because Qin Dynasty was another foreign dynasty of China and not too mention Shang Dynasty which is regarded as oldest state that existed in central China. If we take out all the conquered dynasties from Chinese history, it doesn't have much left. It seems 80% of China's history was conquered dynasty not continuous Han Chinese history. It should re-labeled as fragmented Chinese history. So for Chinese, if happened within Qing Dynasty's territory then it must be Chinese. Chinese need to know when referring to history, it must be explained from the time of the event not from Qing Dynasty's time. Chinese also need to remember that notion of "China" did not existed prior to 1912. And Beijing wasn't center of the universe.

They're still under the impression that Koreans think Chinese are superior which is ridiculous.

[Consoleman]

^ Where did you get that from? No Koreans ever thought Chinese as superior being.

[Gaemamusa]

^ Where did you get that from? No Koreans ever thought Chinese as superior being.

No Koreans thought that the Chinese were superior as we know. However, the Sinocentric propaganda the Chinese are fed says otherwise.

[Consoleman]

^ That's not true. According to Goryeosa, Chinese weren't superior. No Korean records says Chinese were superior. That was made up by KMT in Taipei. Don't get brain washed by them. There's not a single Koreans think Chinese were superior. C'mon everyone knows that.

[Gaemamusa]

^ That's not true. According to Goryeosa, Chinese weren't superior. No Korean records says Chinese were superior. That was made up by KMT in Taipei. Don't get brain washed by them. There's not a single Koreans think Chinese were superior. C'mon everyone knows that.

You are misunderstanding me again. I said ABSOLUTELY NO KOREANS think that Chinese is more superior than us. Come on Consoleman no offense but do you think I really believe that?

[Consoleman]

If Chinese think they're superior than other asian people then they're not being serious because you know what happened to their 17th~19th century China. I just founded out no Manchus went to Taiwan as some Taiwanese trolls claimed it last time, it was KMT officers and their families and they were all Han Chinese nothing to do with Manchus or Qing Dynasty. But Taiwanese have created this notion that they were rightful inheritors of Qing, total bullshit. It was way to hide their insecurity and humiliation that China was ruled, conquered and enslaved by foreigners.

[Gaemamusa]

If Chinese think they're superior than other asian people then they're not being serious because you know what happened to their 17th~19th century China. I just founded out no Manchus went to Taiwan as some Taiwanese trolls claimed it last time, it was KMT officers and their families and they were all Han Chinese nothing to do with Manchus or Qing Dynasty. But Taiwanese have created this notion that they were rightful inheritors of Qing, total bullshit. It was way to hide their insecurity and humiliation that China was ruled, conquered and enslaved by foreigners.

In Taiwan apparently according to them you have direct descendants of all dynasties from the "Yellow Emperor" all the way to "Nurhachi".

[Consoleman]

^ How can 1.6 billion Chinese out there are direct descendant of Yellow emperor, Genghis Khan and Nurhaci? Doesn't make any sense at all and beside they were ruled mostly by foreign ruling clans. We saw the DNA reports countless times and Taiwanese Chinese immigrants are not even close to any of these people they're claiming to be Chinese. Taiwanese are with Chinese-Filipino group, they should stop claiming nonsense. I saw many Taiwanese before, c'mon they looked Chinese mixed with Filipinos and Vietnamese. They didn't displayed any nordsinid or northern Mongoloid features. My first impression of them were typical southern Chinese.