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[–]NorseGodLoki0411 -32ポイント-31ポイント  (27子コメント)

Was hit when I was a kid. Twenty-five now. I've never been violent or rebellious. In fact quite the opposite. It gave me great respect for my father and mother. But they weren't violent about it, and neither is this guy here.

I think you need to hit your kids. No belt or switch or something like that. Just your hand.

I don't think this is really as relevant to this sub as most of the stuff on here. I think it's quite true. My parents hit me and my two siblings and it made us in to some pretty good, respectful adults.

[–]ThinkBeforeYouTalk 62ポイント63ポイント  (1子コメント)

Alright, close it up boys. /u/NorseGodLoki0411's anecdotal evidence made this case open and shut. Good thing he represents all of mankind.

[–]NorseGodLoki0411 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Alright, alright. I don't represent everyone, true. None of us here do though. Just speaking in my experience, that's all.

I can't speak for any hard scientific evidence of what the true outcome is from parents hitting their kids.

You are right. I won't argue there. My "evidence" is simply anecdotal.

It just seemed to work on me. Who knows.

[–]PHAT_BOOTY 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

More proof of not only the physical, but the psychological abuse of being beaten.

Fuck you. FUCK YOU. I was beaten mercilessly as a child, and you think you can walk into this fucking subreddit and talk about how great beating your kids is?!? When my Dad beat me, he completely destroyed any and all trust I had for him. He destroyed a level of trust that can never be regained. Do you know what it fucking feels like? To be fucking beaten by your father, someone who you're supposed to respect and trust? To never, no matter what you accomplish in life, be perfect enough? Eat shit and die, motherfucker.

[–]NorseGodLoki0411 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sorry that you misunderstood my post. I thought I was clear enough.

I would never condone mercilessly beating the shit out of your hits, but a swift smack in the bottom with a hand is perfectly fine and, I think, a very necessary part of child rearing.

[–]akelly96 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I wouldn't say necessary but I would say some parents may find they want/need to use it.

[–]NorseGodLoki0411 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And that's toooootally okay that you feel that way. I really feel like somehow my posts sounded like "Beat the living shit out of your kids or you're a stupid butt muncher." I was only saying how I feel. That's all.

[–]vlad_the_redditor 11ポイント12ポイント  (17子コメント)

Seriously?

[–]NorseGodLoki0411 -1ポイント0ポイント  (16子コメント)

Haha. No offense at all! I'm honestly just trying to keep this from blowing up in to some stupid internet argument. There's been enough of that on Reddit lately.

No you didn't offend at all. I guess I just disagreed and thought I post that in the comments and see where the discussion went.

I've known parents whose kids were beat to bruised and yes, those kids were pretty terrible as they grew up. So I think we could find examples for both you and I's arguments.

[–]vlad_the_redditor 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

I just think it's fucked up, dude. My parents never, ever beat me, or physically punished me when I was being raised, and I turned out okay. I don't think it's right for any parent to hit any of their kids, in any circumstance.

Fuck man, how am I meant to respond otherwise?

[–]NorseGodLoki0411 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It certainly isn't impossible to raise a good kid without beating them. It's another way of parenting. But choosing to hit your kids is not wrong. It's just, again, another way of parenting. I think it has advantages and I think it's more likely to result in a good kid, but that's my opinion. It doesn't mean that kids who weren't raised that way are always worse off.

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    [–]Glurky_Spurk 9ポイント10ポイント  (11子コメント)

    except there have been tons of studies that show hitting your kid does nothing positive

    [–]TuckingFypo69[🍰] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (10子コメント)

    Source? And did they take into account a mixture of methods or focus on hitting as the only punishment.

    [–]Glurky_Spurk 6ポイント7ポイント  (9子コメント)

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/23/health/effects-spanking-brain/

    [–]TuckingFypo69[🍰] -5ポイント-4ポイント  (8子コメント)

    "More than once a month for more than three years"

    "With a belt or a paddle"

    Yeah I'm not saying beat the shit out of your kids you jackass. I'm saying spank them when they will not listen and using it as an absolute last resort but also love them unconditionally. Stop adjusting the study to suit your beliefs because you have resentment towards your parents and using them hitting you when you were a little shit as the real reason when in reality you were probably the problem, not them.

    [–]hammuhr 8ポイント9ポイント  (7子コメント)

    There's plenty of other studies out there, do your own research instead of just defending something because it fits your bias.

    http://www.drrobertbrooks.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2001/03/Perspectives-on-Discipline-Does-Spanking-Really-Have-a-Role-Part-1.pdf

    How about this? Clearly states that not only is it ineffective, but may cause more aggression to spank your child. Even if the child was already more aggressive than normal, it would only reinforce that when angry/upset, hitting is an option - their parents do it to them after all!

    It's not like this isn't a very studied subject. Hitting your child in any way has negative effects, with very little to no positive benefit.

    Another article on studies: http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/02/the-long-term-effects-of-spanking/253425/

    [–]TuckingFypo69[🍰] -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Hell of a lot of maybes and possiblies in his 5 page paper. Seems more like his conjecture than anything else. Also his example is to hit a child for throwing a ball in the living room? What? No. Spanking and yelling when the child is acting out aggressively already. There is plenty of media with children's shows or duplicating what they see around them not in the house that will cause such behavior. If you're hitting your kid because he just isn't cleaning their room then that's stupid. If they act violent or do some thing serious then yes. Hit them then explain why. Don't nonchalantly hit them indiscriminately and not talk to them.

    [–]NorseGodLoki0411 -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Preach.

    [–]millionaremattdavis 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    NORMIE GET OUT!!!!!!

    [–]AlejothePanda 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Well, I was never really given physical punishment and never became rebellious and maintained respect from my parents. I think it's more about the child and general parenting than simply being hit or not.