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[Discussion]MCH Damage vs BRD (self.ffxiv)

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[–]Snagz Bard on Goblinsnagz -38ポイント-37ポイント  (36子コメント)

Machinist is shit DPS. Got it to 53 before giving it up because right now it just wouldn't be viable in raids until it's adjusted. It does parse around 20-30% lower than BRD, which is already the lowest.

Edit: ITT butthurt machinists that can't accept their class does subpar dps. The stupidity of some people in this sub never ceases to amaze. I'm not going to hold your hand and explain how/why MCN currently sucks because you're too fucking dumb to understand it. Bring on the downvotes, casuals, and continue being blissfully ignorant as you 200 dps your way to dungeon victory.

[–]carnefarious 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Downvoted for just being a dick in general, not because you aren't explaining things.

[–]fmal 4ポイント5ポイント  (33子コメント)

I don't think it's really fair to judge a class before getting all of its skills.

[–]iLikeHorchata 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

At level 54 you can already see how MCN is going to perform in terms of DPS because you pretty much have all your damaging skills at that point.

  • Level 56 is Rend Mind, which is not a damage skill.
  • Level 58 is Hypercharge, which is the MCH's version of Battle Voice
  • Level 60 is Ricochet, which is a 100 potency off-GCD ability that can only be used in Gauss Barrel. Yes this could be in your rotation along with Gauss Round (which is actually a good skill), but I doubt it would change much.

edited for formatting.

[–]A'eda JalekSumoOnion 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

I might be wrong here but isn't hypercharging your turret in "dps chance" a physical version of foes on one of the turrets? Rook I believe. If that's the case then that's deffo a large part of your damage output.

[–]iLikeHorchata 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I've been googling to find out the exact number or way it is affected, but all I find is that it DOES increase the damage of the turret somehow. It's something to consider, but I still don't feel that it saves the class.

[–]A'eda JalekSumoOnion 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh well. I just know that I want them in my grp as a DRG main for that sweet physical "foes". I believe I saw it in a post talking about turrets the other day. Can't really find it on my phone :)

[–]iLikeHorchata 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well DRG and MCH already have synergy due to Disembowl also benefiting MCH. I'm not sure about the turret, but I'd be surprised if the turret was not also piercing.

[–]Krip Tini on Gilgameshkriptini 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

I played MCH at level 60 at E3, and I can confirm that its damage is really freaking low, even with all of its skills.

[–]Kilgore TroutThe_New_Original 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Do you think that's because you went to a one day event trying to learn a new class?

[–]Krip Tini on Gilgameshkriptini 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Possibly. But I'm not green to MMOs; I doubt I was missing any significant mechanics that would've caused its damage to be astronomically lower than Bard's.

[–]Kilgore TroutThe_New_Original 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tell me your rotation.

[–][Aasterinian] [Diabolos] on [Excalibur]Falazure1 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

to be fair with that assessment, they should be able to benchmark at 50 as well relatively equally to bard...if they are not even doing that its an early warning sign that the job is not meeting functionality needs.

[–]Kilgore TroutThe_New_Original 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its funny how you use "casual" as an insult. When that really just means you play too much of a video game. lol. a real insult would be calling you a worthless nerd. Because, honestly you sound like one.