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"Chemtrails/Geoengineering don't exist" - Orly? (self.conspiracy)

OWNtheNWO が 投稿

This is my 'time for you to shut your fucking mouth and read' list.

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2015/feb/20/geoengineering-schemes-to-combat-climate-change-still-risky-say-reports

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2015/02/nrc_geoengineering_report_climate_hacking_is_dangerous_and_barking_mad.html

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-30197085

http://www.bostonglobe.com/magazine/2013/10/19/how-geoengineering-and-harvard-david-keith-became-hot-topic/JBkPRydP1Tnd86oclwJT8K/story.html

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/geoengineering-how-to-cool-earth/

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/64829/david-g-victor-m-granger-morgan-jay-apt-john-steinbruner-and-kat/the-geoengineering-option

http://www.ucar.edu/news/releases/2006/injections.shtml

https://web.archive.org/web/20140816192856/http://www.bnl.gov/envsci/ASR/interactions/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2944714/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxDAa4jaafY

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[–]ChangeThroughTruth 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you! Your efforts are appreciated.

[–]grandmacaesar 8ポイント9ポイント  (32子コメント)

I'm the sole moderator of the chemtrails subverse on voat. I snagged it in the 1st reddit exodus, 10 months ago. I welcome input and skepticism, but denial won't be tolerated.

[–]klmd 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bravo!

[–]DrMrPresident 5ポイント6ポイント  (29子コメント)

So only "skepticism" that supports your view.

[–]Illusionary_ 9ポイント10ポイント  (7子コメント)

The main fucking problem with /r/conspiracy is that we have more people who browse/troll here that don't even believe in conspiracies.

That's a problem, like get the fuck out.

I think it's pretty damn fair to not tolerate denial of chemtrails in a chemtrails sub. If you want to deny chemtrails, make a chemtrails denial sub, and converse with your own people.

All people want to do is argue and prove other people wrong, divide themselves, put themselves in a place where they know they shouldn't be.

And how pathetic is that?

[–]bitcoin_noob 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

What? So we all believe the same thing do we?

I'm a conspiracy theorist. I've no doubt the CIA killed JFK and there is a concerted effort worldwide to enslave us.

But as a holder of a Commercial Pilot License, I don't believe the contrails in the sky are Chemtrails. Well, I shouldn't use the word 'believe', I know they aren't.

[–]Scarytownterminator 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

As an engineer, thank you. I'm not aerospace, but I've taken my fair share of thermo and engine design courses and contrails are a basic part of the jet engine cycle.

Guess every engineer ever is in cahoots and part of the NWO.

[–]blighttownlocal 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's the game. Divide and conquer, it causes people to lose sight and fight and argue over nothing.

There are a lot of contrarians here, I'd bet a good chunk of them are told to watch places like this.

[–]cheneydidit -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

A shill shall divide and conquer

[–]pseudonym42[🍰] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So voat is already taking reddit's model of moderator's running things with an iron fist. I am sure the exodus will go well.

[–]TheCocaineFairy -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's 7:34am in tell aviv. The shills are just waking up, give em a few hours and they will start hammering these threads while eating bagels

[–]joinedforthis 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very open-minded of you, spoken like a true nut.

[–]grandmacaesar 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

If people have questions concerning weather modification, that's understandable and welcome.

However, there is no doubt that something is being sprayed in our skies. Denying that it exists is lying. Lies don't add anything positive to the conversation. Dick Pests get deleted.

[–]BelfreyE 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Weather modification (cloud seeding) certainly exists. But it it doesn't cause persistent cloud trails across the sky that look like persistent contrails, and it's not the same thing as geoengineering.

[–]OWNtheNWO[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (18子コメント)

You're not a 'skeptic' if you ignore all the documentation I just posted and continue to deny the existence of the operation. You're just a fucking contrary idiot who doesn't like their perception of reality challenged.

[–]BelfreyE 2ポイント3ポイント  (17子コメント)

But none of the documentation you've just posted shows that geoengineering is being done now. It all shows that it's an idea that's being researched, discussed, and proposed for the future.

[–]OWNtheNWO[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (16子コメント)

Yeah, it's just an 'idea' it's not happening right now, they've only invested all this time and money into 'researching' it there's no way they would surreptitiously implement something without the public's approval, never, that would never happen ever.

[–]PlantCurious 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Logic lesson for you. Snidely and sarcastically sneering, "oh no they would never do that" is not proof, or a substitute for proof. There is a reason why you resort to sneering sarcasm: it's all you have. If you had actual evidence of "the operation" you would show it. Your certainty about your guesses won't cut it.

[–]OWNtheNWO[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Here's comes the Danth's law because I'm tired of going in circles with shills and useful idiots, so I could give fuck-all about my debate rapport. Just another piece of garbage left over here from self-propelled stomachs and the people who hate them, an utter waste of fucking time.

[–]BelfreyE 0ポイント1ポイント  (13子コメント)

Again, something that is being studied, discussed, and proposed for the future. That does not automatically mean that it's being done now. I did not say "that would never happen ever," that's a straw man.

Just like a future manned mission to Mars is something that's being seriously discussed, proposed, and researched. Lots of money spent, patents filed, etc. Does that mean that we currently have people on Mars?

[–]asiltopbr 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why are you trying to debate someone this dumb, you basically destroyed this guys entire argument and he's just spamming random insults and can't grasp why literally nothing he has linked is evidence of anything bad.

You're dealing with a loon that probably has a serious case of confirmation bias.

[–]OWNtheNWO[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (11子コメント)

LOOK UP AT THE FUCKING SKY MORON, THEN LOOK AT THE FUCKING PICTURE DIAGRAMS OF WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING.

A fucking 10 year old could figure it out. What's your excuse?

[–]BelfreyE 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

I can often see persistent contrails in the sky, which have been observed and documented for as long as there's been high-altitude air travel. Geoengineering SRM proposals generally would not look like that; they would involve releasing materials into the stratosphere, well above where commercial airliners fly. The goal would not be to create visible clouds, but rather to mimic the effect of volcanoes, which inject aerosols into the stratosphere.

Can you give an example of a diagram of a proposal from a primary scientific source, which shows that it would look like persistent contrails?

[–]OWNtheNWO[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (7子コメント)

Oh boy, here comes the disinfo dissembling, yes contrails last all day long and spread out into a milky haze on the sky, even in a fucking desert.

[–]joinedforthis 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

I like the bit where you didn't rebut or critique the argument. Oh so typical

[–]PlantCurious 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Such rage.

[–]OWNtheNWO[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You're damn right. What do you think blanketing the planet with toxic inorganic heavy metals is doing to the environment, while they have you frothing at the mouth over carbon dioxide.

[–]FORKinmyDICK [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Just subbed

[–]sweatpants7 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

thanks for posting this

[–]TheCocaineFairy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

its not even debatable anymore. peep this http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience

[–]peisistratid 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sorry, I must have missed some previous discussions. What are you claiming here? You mention geoengineering and have a bunch of links detailing that it is clearly something for which there have been small scale tests and some level of interest, so what is the conspiracy? Do people actually believe geoengineering straight up doesn't exist?

Also, how do chemtrails factor in? I thought that was a pretty discredited idea in that the condensation trails behind jets are exactly what one expects with zero additives.

[–]bitcoin_noob 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

What's the best link that proves airlines worldwide are collaborating on a massive program to spray us with chemicals?

Because I've read your first four links, which say nothing of the sort and are garbage.

You should really put the best ones at the top, if you haven't already, because I've lost interest and won't bother reading the rest.

Did you read your own links?

[–]OWNtheNWO[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

What's the best link that proves airlines worldwide are collaborating on a massive program to spray us with chemicals?

Some of the planes are military or private contractor like 'Evergreen' (look them up). others are just added to the fuel of commercial airliners (STADIS-450).

http://chemtrails.cc/docs/chemtrails.cc_the_not_so_secret_ingredient_02-2009.pdf

[–]bitcoin_noob [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Really? Minute quantities of chemicals added to jet fuel are enough to create trails hundreds of miles long which would weigh hundreds of thousands of tonnes?

Your best link is a pdf made by a Chemtrail conspiracy website... Great.

[–]bubz99 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

http://www.climos.com/news/articles/candr.htm