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[–]exploreddit 193ポイント194ポイント  (40子コメント)

This is why we need a fully encrypted decentralized solution. I got instantly downvoted last time I suggested this.

edit: there are several solutions in the works so I'll just suggest learning more at /r/rad_decentralization

[–]Eat_The_Muffin 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

http://getaether.net

P2P, anonymous, really nice interface too

[–]Battle-Spoon [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Is it encrypted?

Is it possible that by using it, I could host and distribute (links to) illegal content?

[–]ronintetsuro [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I really REALLY like Aether, it just needs more users...

[–]Callampadero 12ポイント13ポイント  (12子コメント)

Don't you guys ever suspect, though, that the US Feds don't put full pressure on P2P because they're piggybacking in?

[–]rijl 9ポイント10ポイント  (10子コメント)

Who would they put pressure on?

The point of p2p is decentralization. The best they can do is undermine the technology and cause people to lose trust in it.

[–]Drbarke 2ポイント3ポイント  (9子コメント)

What do you guys mean when you say decentralization?

[–]bonestamp 18ポイント19ポイント  (5子コメント)

I assume they mean that it's hosted in multiple locations by multiple people (think bitcoin network). The advantage being that if one or multiple nodes go offline there are other nodes to fall back on and otherwise distribute the load.

Edit: I'll add that the main downside to decentralized services is latency. Bitcoin works well because a very tiny amount of data needs to be synchronized reasonably quickly. The bulk of the data can be synchronized with less urgency or not even synchronized at all depending on its age. But a social media site, which a site like reddit or voat basically are now, means that you have a lot of data that you want to synchronize quickly. It's not necessarily impossible, but it's much more challenging than something like bitcoin (at least on the big data side of it).

[–]Drbarke 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for the concise response mate.

[–]deathcomesilent 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd love to see some of the people from the bitcoin realm take a crack at "free speech via crpyto-democracy.

The pirate bay has proven that you can host the website, bitcoin has proven that you can decentralize security, I feel like we already have all the pieces and we just need a few Aaron Swarts types to put it all together!

[–]notaseriesoftubes -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

even bitcoin takes forever to be synchronized. It takes a solid 15 minutes to get a single transaction confirmation.

[–]bonestamp 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ya, fair enough. But, that data is available for nodes to work with relatively quickly... even if it's not confirmed in a block for a while.

[–]TheUltimateSalesman 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tiny little parts are stored everywhere and in multiple copies. Destroy a piece, it gets replaced and replicated.

[–]rijl 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It means there isn't any one person or organization that can be isolated and shut down.

It means strength in numbers.

[–]AngelOfLight 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Remember Napster? It was vulnerable because the network relied on a small number of central servers. The RIAA simply had to obtain a court order to shut down those servers in order to bring down the entire network.

Why have they not done the same with Bittorrent? It's because BT is a true peer-to-peer system. Every user becomes a part of the network, meaning that there are literally millions of nodes. There simply is no way to shut down all, or even a sizable portion of them.

[–]RamblinRambo3 -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've been saying that voat.co is shit because of where their servers are and what their founder said about considering censoring some opinions. But oh no everyone has been on that voat.co is great bandwagon. It's not a good option.

[–]notaseriesoftubes -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What personally got me is how they only allow one vote on a subject per IP address. This means that multiple people in the same house, people on cell phones, people in certain countries, etc can't fully use the website. Yeah preventing vote brigading is important, but that's a heavy handed approach that ultimately hurts users.

[–]peterson2004 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I got instantly downvoted last time I suggested this.

That's because most of reddit is now under sock control. Probably over 80% of comments on main subs are socks.

I posted a talk a while back where some analysis was conducted on some mainstream comment sources, where they were able to figure out which accounts were socks and 95% of the conversation was from shills. Reddit has removed the ability to track any of this, so it's just an estimation.

[–]CCM4Life 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

ELI5?

[–]deathcomesilent 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Socks= sock puppets. So either shills or bots generally.

[–]JamesTheJerk [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Would it not be possible to 'just' create a second internet, an internet aside from our current internet that we can keep corporate-free as the lead principal?

[–]lionforhire 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So in Europe companies literally won't sell or do business with you if you don't subscribe to a major political party?

Europe seems in a worse direction than America, at least we're supposed to have a bill of rights.

[–]Dysnomi 47ポイント48ポイント  (7子コメント)

The reason they gave us when they notified us that they have cancelled our contract is "...we have received significant information that the content on your server includes political incorrect parts that are unacceptable for us." and "Due to the fact that we cannot keep bond of trust to you as our customer...".

Bwah!?

Luckily, we have managed to move our databases to a cloud platform mere hours before they shut down our servers.

Thank goodness!

just to clarify, I have been a hosteurope.de customer for well over 5 years, always paying my bills and never hosting any illegal content.

[–]Dysnomi 29ポイント30ポイント  (6子コメント)

Your donations are what keeps us afloat. Our paypal account has been un-suspended, so you can still donate to hello@voat.co, or via bitcoin to wallet address 1C4Q1RvUb3bzk4aaLVgGccnSnaHYFdESzY.

[–]SoCo_cpp 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

Are you suspecting that this website is a clone and not the real voat or just a publicity stunt?

[–]Dysnomi 24ポイント25ポイント  (2子コメント)

No. I suspect conde-nast dumped FPH onto this sub and voat. I suspect their affiliates ddosed voat and pulled a favor from hosteurope.de to pull voat's servers.

I will say it was rather prime timing for voat to have gone to the clouds. That kinda stuff happens though.

[–]RedMistKnight 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well if they did it to help make sure they can keep running while getting DDOSed then it's kinda hilarious failed to shut them down with the finisher because their earlier attacks prepared them for it inadvertently

[–]dustlesswalnut [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Or maybe the host doesn't want to be associated with hateful content, and the "DDOS" was merely a bunch of people trying to use a site that was hosted on a single server and couldn't handle the traffic.

[–]gnovos 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ah, so you're thinking maybe they did this to themselves to get some money?

[–]Dysnomi 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not really. More like I'm advertising their bitcoin wallet address to all of you.

Voat runs on donations. Reddit runs on advertising. I just donated free advertising to Voat. Whether you don't or do donate to voat, reddit continues to slide downhill.

[–]richard_m_lurkmoar2 57ポイント58ポイント  (4子コメント)

this is fucked

someone in that post made the comment that the ddos and then the provider cancelling are the exact things that happened to hotwheels and in the same order

[–]hack_jealousy 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Almost like that's how things are done.

[–]ndimoro [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Clearly it's the same people doing the same things.

[–]TheWiredWorld 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wait, there's no more 8ch?

[–]richard_m_lurkmoar2 26ポイント27ポイント  (0子コメント)

yes, but it was attacked as soon as people started jumping ship from halfchan

[–]geekygirl23 37ポイント38ポイント  (109子コメント)

Couple of things.

1) https://voat.co/v/announcements/comments/146757/357958

2) Recently found a jailbait sub over there that implores users to go ahead and post pussy and tits.

Not sure about Europe but as a service provider in the US there is at least one thing that has been found to be unprotected speech and that is porn depicting minors. You will not find a single legitimate host that will allow you to run a site that allows communities like this to exist.

Service providers are exempt from almost everything and have no requirements to police their content. In fact, it is suggested to not remove content that you think is copyrighted or similar because once you start moderating for things like that you are liable to moderate your entire site. Best to let the DMCA's come in and only take action then.

If you as a service provider find potential child porn on your platform you are supposed to remove the content and report it to the authorities so they can investigate.

Again, suspected child pornography is not covered under free speech laws and anyone that wants to remain online is going to have to take action against it swiftly. Not only can it get your hosting pulled and website seized you can be held personally liable for your inaction, especially if someone specifically contacted you about it.

Atko seems a bit in over his head and overwhelmed with the decisions that need to be made on a site seeing rapid growth. He's going to have to make some tough calls but I'm sure the free speech oriented userbase will be ok with this kind of decision.

Maybe the laws are different in Europe but I doubt it as much as I doubt most people would willingly participate in a site that has this kind of content.

[–]fr3nch-toast 6ポイント7ポイント  (36子コメント)

Recently found a jailbait sub over there that implores users to go ahead and post pussy and tits.

This isnt exactly true. They say no fully nude for under 16 years old, which is the law in Switzerland where their servers are (were?). Not sure what the ramifications of that will be for people outside Switzerland. Either way it still kind of creeps me out, but the whole point of freedom is not to hold other people to other's personal feelings right?

Since all the images are hosted on third party sites (mostly imgur) and not on voat's servers I think the liability is going to fall on them.

It also says all this stuff on the sidebar and faq of that jailbait sub. Wouldnt have taken a whole lot of extra time on your part to investigate more before posting unnecessarily inflammatory threads elsewhere.

[–]Maxwyfe 10ポイント11ポイント  (16子コメント)

You know, if I'm in charge of a service like that, I'm going to have to go with the "better safe than sorry" option as Voat seems to have done. CP is not a thing you want your company associated with at all.

[–]GoonCommaThe 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's not how it works. It doesn't matter where the servers are, because the content is still illegal in many countries and is being posted and viewed from those countries. Child pornography is child pornography.

[–]geekygirl23 3ポイント4ポイント  (13子コメント)

A different sub doesn't mention age but says to go ahead and post pussy and tits.

Also this.

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3aef5e/voatcos_provider_hosteuropede_shuts_down_voats/csbxrdo

[–]fr3nch-toast -2ポイント-1ポイント  (12子コメント)

Well. Im not going to go looking for that sub, for obvious reasons, but if they are doing that then its illegal. It happens. Its also agains voats policies and will be deleted.

And yeah. I undestand US law. We are talking about severs hosted in a different country.

Edit: and the laws are kind of strange about this. In /r/jailbait, when that sub was still around, it was legal because sexually explicit comments were against the rules of that sub. Reddit removed it because it got plastered all over anderson coopers show and caused a bunch of suburban moms and spineless redditors to loose their shit.

I realize its a fine line, but just because you think those subs are sexualizing minors (which they are if we are being honest) doesnt mean they are under the legal definition of sexualizing minors.

[–]geekygirl23 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

By the way, this is relevant.

For the purposes of a violation of PC 288, the required element in order to prosecute you is your specific intent to satisfy sexual arousal or desire. Whether you touched a child’s naked body (or he or she touched yours) or clothing was being worn is irrelevant.

Additionally, it doesn’t matter whether the sexual conduct involved intimate body parts provided that the purpose of the lewd conduct was sexually motivated.

https://www.wklaw.com/what-is-lewd-and-lascivious-acts-with-a-minor/

[–]geekygirl23 2ポイント3ポイント  (9子コメント)

The way you describe jailbait as it was on reddit would definitely put it into "gray area" territory. It all comes down to a jury of your peers (US law) and dealing with law enforcement that does everything they can to paint you as a monster. They also like to charge you with extreme stuff in these cases then offer you a plea bargain of probation as long as you shut everything down and stay off the net. Even if you won it would ruin most financially.

The sub I was mentioning specific was very clearly different than the old one from reddit. The old one from reddit I'd still say would be found illegal but the case would at least be harder to make.

[–]fr3nch-toast -3ポイント-2ポイント  (8子コメント)

It all comes down to a jury of your peers (US law) and dealing with law enforcement that does everything they can to paint you as a monster.

No it doesnt. US law is not that subjective. It fucking blows me away that people have such twisted views of how things work, but still think they are entitled to their opinion and spread their ignorant fucking view all over. Like if you state your shitty opinion as fact it makes it correct. Did you bother to even look up the US laws on CP before opening your mouth? No you didnt. That seems like the bare minimum someone should do on this subject before starting an argument. You saw a couple dramatized TV scenes of a courtroom and now think you actually know something. If a DA doesnt have evidence to support his case, he doesnt charge you because its a waste of everyones time. There is no "charging with extreme stuff."

US law have bullet-pointed, very specific elements on what constitutes a child and pornography. If you combine those two, you get in trouble. There is no "painting you as a monster" or any thing like that. You either distributed a picture of a 16 year old nipple, or you did not. its pretty fucking black and white. Bikini doesnt equal nipple. Yoga pants dont equal nipple. Only nipple equals nipple.

The old one from reddit I'd still say would be found illegal but the case would at least be harder to make.

How can you even say this when you dont even know anything about CP laws??????? OMFG. Shut your mouth and read something.

Jailbait was taken down because Anderson Cooper did a big story on it and the reddit leaders are spineless. It censorship of completely legal material, no grey area, because it was "distateful" and they "didnt want that type of thing int he community". If there we any grounds what so ever to file CP charges, then they would have been filed. Its EXTREMELY easy to convict CP offenders because the laws are so specific. The FBI doesnt fuck around with that shit. Quick and easy convictions.

[–]geekygirl23 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

Another ignorant donkey. I kept in tune with the laws because I was an adult webmaster from 1999 until 2008.

These cases do indeed go to jury trial you moronic shit. The prosecution has to prove that content falls under their test but it's still in front of a jury.

So, you made a multi paragraph rant completely talking out of your ass but accusing me of doing so in the process?

L O FUCKING L.

[–]fr3nch-toast -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

You cant even read. I didnt say anything about a jury. The word "jury" doesnt even appear in that post. Of course it goes to a jury. Fucking shit you are an idiot.

I kept in tune with the laws because

Well I just read them in their entirety...... WTF does "keeping in tune" actually mean. Watercooler gossip!? Obviously you dont know shit or we wouldnt be having this conversation. I bet you've never even been in a real courtroom. You have got to be the most smug retard Ive even talked to. GO READ THE LAWS THEY ARE IN BULLET POINTS YOU DIPSHIT!!!!!!

Jeasus I dont even know what to say. I cant believe people as dumb as you even exist.

[–]geekygirl23 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

I said

It all comes down to a jury of your peers (US law) and dealing with law enforcement that does everything they can to paint you as a monster.

You said

"No it doesnt."

Now you say it does. You are the retard. You are ridiculous on so many levels you must be a troll. Yes, please quit educating me with your counterknowledge of the subject. You know nothing John Doe.

[–]fr3nch-toast [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Sure. I dont remind repeating myself for the slow people...

No it doesnt. It doesnt involve painting you as a monster. The laws in this case are black and white and convictions are not that subjective. The DA isnt going to press charges on someone that doesnt have evidence of CP violations. You cant just walk into a courtroom, claim someone is a pervert, and watch them go to prison. CP laws are so black and white that this doesnt happen.

Ive supplied CP evidence to the FBI and local police a dozen or so times and been involved in several of the prosecutions. Its a case of, "Hey you had pictures of naked 12 year olds. Here they are right here on your computer. Now go to jail." Thats it.....

Stop watching TV law dramatizations. Or you know, you could actually look up the CP laws and read them for yourself. I know you sill havent done that. Based on your reading comprehension it probably wouldnt do you much good anyway.

[–]frankenmine [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

She's posting a law about physical contact with a minor when talking about images of a minor. It's completely irrelevant.

[–]Amos_Quito [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This isnt exactly true. They say no fully nude for under 16 years old, which is the law in Switzerland where their servers are (were?).

From the link:

Our provider, hosteurope.de shut down our servers due to "political incorrectness"

.de is Germany, not Switzerland.

And Germany is a terrible choice to host a discussion-based website.

Political correctness and censorship tyrants, Germany.

[–]Irvin700 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Difference is to NOT post illegal content. You know, stuff that YOUR government can get you for. Stuff that the government can't get you for stays.

[–]rijl -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I wouldn't be surprised if this is a smear campaign.

Voat is already under attack from a variety of sources.

It would be easy to create a sub full of content that would make your average SJW shit the bed, and then go to your various media sources touting headlines like "voat.co supports child pornographers"

This whole discussion is not about illegal porn. It's about the free flow of information.

[–]geekygirl23 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have been banned from these subs on reddit for years. My account here is 8 years old. My comment history makes it obvious that I am not an SJW. You could be an alien. It would be easy for an alien to register the name rijl on reddit and make comments.

[–]GoonCommaThe 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The admin of that sub posted below before deleting all his comments, and judging by his post history I'd have no reason to believe it wasn't actually him. His account is three years old, he regularly posts in /r/conspiracy, he claims in an /r/AskReddit thread that he is/was a chronic masturbator who got caught doing it at school, and he put out requests for some rather fucked up pornography invoking self-harm, as well as rape porn. Judging by his comments he sees himself as a connoisseur rather than someone who has some sort of issue.

His comments here were all defending his creation of a jailbait sub (or whatever Voat calls them). So from the sounds of it he created it just so people would provide him with child pornography. There is absolutely zero evidence that Reddit had anything to do with this, unless you propose that they've maintained an active account (across a variety of subs) for three years and tailored a background that perfectly fits this exact situation.

EDIT: Looking again I didn't realize one of their posts was looking for violent rape pornography, including revenge porn.

EDIT 2: They also see themselves as some sort of "scientist" who uses his "science" (note, not actually done in any scientific way) to claim homosexuals are not deserving of the same rights as heterosexuals. Classy guy really.

EDIT: 3: In further classiness, they edited a post in /r/AskReddit to say "FUCK THE JEWS" once it had accrued a rather large amount of up votes.

EDIT 4: Further down we find posts where they defend child pornography being posted on other sites.

EDIT 5: More "science" about homosexuals. Note that he doesn't even bother to link to shitty unscientific sources, he makes these claims based on his observations alone. He somehow admits they're not done in a scientific manner but are also scientifically sound.

EDIT 6: More talk about fucked up pornography.

EDIT 7: Dude claims he was born a psychopath and has "visions" of the future and of supernatural events. Some talk about God's spirit giving him powers. Further below they post a bunch about Christianity in two threads. This is also brought up in earlier comments with their "science" about homosexuals.

EDIT 8: Talk about "awakening" people.

I'm only like two weeks in but I'm done. This dude is not a shill. He posts in plenty of mainstream subs, and in some manages to engage in reasonable conversations. In others he shows he's got a lot of issues to work out. Not a single thing makes him look like anything other than a dude who needs a therapist.

[–]Typhoidmary1 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just in case any of you guys are intrested https://voat.co/v/Conspiracy

[–]blaaaahhhhh [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Who mods it? Are the mod logs completely visible? What would be the pros and cons to using v/conspiracy over r/conspiracy?

[–]killthemallseriously 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Voat needs to be on dynamic cloud hosting anyway

[–]J2501 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

If the government doesn't censor you, a private corporation will. This is exactly why true anarchists are not capitalist. We realize that private sector power can be just as oppressive, abusive, and exploitative as public power. One can only hope that the free market would support a web host that is completely anti-censorship, both ideologically and as a business model.

[–]bundlespoons 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

Was anyone under the impression that Europe (especially Germany) was some kind of new promised land of free speech compared to the US?

[–]Flytape 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol no.

Any country that has hate speech laws is not a promised land of free speech.

[–]ChaosMotor 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you can't kill the plant, poison the soil, huh?

[–]Pongpianskul 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

What exactly are they referring to?

[–]fr3nch-toast 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well. Voats policy is just anything goes as long as its legal. There are a couple subs coming up already sexualizing minors and propagating hate speech. The jailbait sub over there allows nudity of 16+ year old girls because that is the law where their servers are hosted. Stuff like that will create a lot of backlash from international organizations though.

[–]geekygirl23 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://www.englishforum.ch/daily-life/196591-new-laws-switzerland-2014-a-2.html

plus the consumption of hard pornography is now illegal and punishable with up to 6 years in prison. This isn't limited to child porn (where it makes sense) but also to certain other kinds of porn that are legal in pretty much every other country in the world, meaning that porn consumers will be incriminating themselves by surfing on pretty much any porn site on the planet now (willingly or not - background pop-ups on some sites might already land you in prison). The federal council wanted to have stuff like urination etc. eliminated from the list of hard porn, but the national council chose to keep it in.

To add some wtflol to the mix.

[–]Eat_The_Muffin 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nobody in the other subs will even consider that maybe reddit is behind voat being kept offline and then shut down.

It would be a clever move by pao, set fire to the house due to poor decision making and then shoot anyone who tries to leave.

[–]Blunderaem [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It'd be stupid decision by Pao or her bosses. They want Reddit cleaned up to become profitable either through direct ads, investment cash, marketing research, or selling it to a FaceBook/Google.

With Voat active Reddit wins. Any troublesome users can go there, and make her job easier. At her worst she'd try poisoning Voat for the average user, but never destroy it outright. To use an analogy it's Reddit's Zion.

[–]_420CakeDay 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So is everyone going to Snapzu.com

[–]partiallypro -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Put it on Azure or AWS

[–]SagamiSurprise 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ironic that they encountered an actual free speech issue on the new site

[–]Noondozer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Holy shit.

[–]redorblu [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

drop an email to piratebay and ask them for hosting advice or tips

[–]-DDD- [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

kinda sad europe doesnt have freedom of speech like america...glad i live here

[–]flexiverse [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well it was too fucking slow. If the admins were serious they would get some fucking decent hosting. So they just playing around really.

[–]TrustyTapir [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You can't have free speech while you're hosted in a centralized location. Every country either has its own agenda or enforces the agenda of another country.

[–]ToastedSoup [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

From https://voat.co/v/announcements/comments/146757 :

Our hosting provider, hosteurope.de has terminated all our contracts and shut down all our servers without issuing a warning or trying to talk to us. This includes my private server which was only used to host my girlfriends blog. She is a scientist. She published her research papers on that blog (pre-formatted papers to which she owns the copyright). That server contained no other data whatsoever.

The reason they gave us when they notified us that they have cancelled our contract is "...we have received significant information that the content on your server includes political incorrect parts that are unacceptable for us." and "Due to the fact that we cannot keep bond of trust to you as our customer...".

Luckily, we have managed to move our databases to a cloud platform mere hours before they shut down our servers. Ladies and gentlemen, my eyes have been opened by this. I don't know about you, but we are living in a weird world. We will have to carefully evaluate our long term options of providing a platform of free speech if we are to stay online. Your donations are what keeps us afloat.

Also, I am back in Sweden from my post-graduation vacation, currently packing my things and I will be driving (moving) to Switzerland tomorrow or day after tomorrow.

Edit: just to clarify, I have been a hosteurope.de customer for well over 5 years, always paying my bills and never hosting any illegal content.

Edit 2: thank you all who donated. I removed info on how to donate as I feel we have received enough to help us survive for quite some time. We will publish a detailed report about how much money we have received through donations (all bitcoin transactions are already public) and what the money will be used for. I can already say that we have received around 8000 USD since our call for donation went up a few days ago. This money will most likely have to be taxed, but a detailed report will be published asap. I have received interview requests from several major news agencies but responding to these agencies will have to wait. A voat which runs smoothly and satisfied users is my #1 priority. It would feel wrong for me to be spending time appearing in the media while there are plenty other more pressing issues to deal with right here.

[–]grundo1561 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

/r/conspiracy is just a bunch of right-wing gun nut whack jobs. Bunch of idiots, I tell ya what.

Edit: wrong thread. I'm keeping this up for the hell of it, although I'm fully prepared to be thoroughly chewed out.

[–]Leathold [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It feels like good sites like voat and 8ch are on their last legs. I'm honestly a bit scared for the future.

[–]Amos_Quito [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

YOU TRIED TO HOST VOAT ON A FUCKING GERMAN SERVER???

OMFG.

Germany {{{ HOLOCAUST }}} is OWNED. That country has been beaten to a PULP by EVERYONE (especially Jews) since they lost WWII. It is THE most politically correct country on the planet. Offend someone there, and you're looking at fucking JAIL TIME.

depending on who you offend - your results may vary

Get the fuck out of Germany (and Europe) if you hope to have a chance at anything resembling "free speech".

[–]TheLetter10 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Your post was so bad that I'm already doing chemo treatments.

[–]Amos_Quito [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Let me know when your hair starts to fall out.

I know where you can get wigs below wholesale.

;-)

[–]clueless_as_fuck 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

They just can't handle the traffic.

[–]DronePuppet -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

Shuts them down but they are still up?

[–]richard_m_lurkmoar2 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

way to read the article

[–]DronePuppet -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Shuts down me "disconnect". I can read.

[–]hack_jealousy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shuts down me "disconnect". I can read.

Of course you can.

[–]devicemodder 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

they are like the pirate bay, LOL.

[–]GAMEchief [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

How is this a conspiracy? They said why they did it.

[–]undercoversausage -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I tried to login in over the last week or so, but have never been able to. I don't think that Voat had the bandwidth to accomadate the exodus. And here we all are...

there is no hope. Abandon it now I guess.

[–]Orlyborly 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

They have moved to a new cloud based server now. Works pretty good.