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CENSORSHIPVoat.co's provider, hosteurope.de, shuts down voat's servers due to "political incorrectness" (voat.co)

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[–]teepy -64ポイント-63ポイント  (33子コメント)

By political incorrectness do you mean not willing to do business with people who host bullying content, jail bait, etc?

Why would anyone want to associate with people who host this type of content? If I were a host provider, I prefer to make more money rather than tarnishing the name of my company.

[–]Wolphoenix 23ポイント24ポイント  (6子コメント)

If a host provider takes mail bombing campaigns of outraged moralists over talking with me first and inspecting my site before making a decision, then they are not making a well informed decision. They are doing it because they have been cowed into silence.

[–]Immolus 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

It was hosted in Germany. I'm pretty sure all it took was seeing the word 'nazi' somewhere on the site to get the hosting pulled.

[–]CloudTheWolfShadowbanned after founding /r/PaoYongYang 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

germans sure are touchy about that hitler thing, huh.

[–]LeerooooyGaaaankins 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

MEIN FEE FEES!

[–]werno [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This response in context really sums this whole thing up for an outsider.

[–]Wolphoenix -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

They should get Eastern European hosts

[–]snakeInTheClock 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not Russian though. Russian ones will probably delete everything on the first letter from our federal service for supervision censorship agency.

[–]sensual_rustle 32ポイント33ポイント  (2子コメント)

Try harder.

Reddit would not exist with that pisspoor logic.

[–]anonveggy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If it were to be hosted on german soil. that would definitely happen

[–]werno [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Maybe reddit is hosted by an org that is okay with hosting questionable content? Its the providers right to refuse, and they would be so legally and publicly fucked if the vitriol on voat hit the media, I can't blame them.

[–]Mashiki 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're talking about reddit right?

[–]-Buzz--Killington-Misogoracisphobic Terror Campaign Leader 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gr8b8m8

[–]non_consensual 10ポイント11ポイント  (10子コメント)

omg not bullies and jailbait!!1

Talk about first world problems. The obvious irony being who are the bullies exactly? Those trying to venture off to a new forum, or those trying to destroy that forum before they even get there?

[–]gwats -3ポイント-2ポイント  (9子コメント)

This whole thread is about first world problems. "Oh no, two websites taking away my freedom to say what I want". I'm sure ya'll are intelligent enough to find another forum more fitting to you. And if they get shutdown too, because of sabotage by the "SJWs", you may have to reevaluate things and consider that people/server hosts may not want to deal with this for reasons besides mass emails from those "SJWs".

[–]non_consensual 5ポイント6ポイント  (8子コメント)

Free expression is a first world problem? Are you high?

[–]gwats -3ポイント-2ポイント  (6子コメント)

No, finding another online forum to express that freedom of speech is a first world problem. Are you not able to express yourself on platforms such as 4chan or whatever chan? Are you not able to express yourself freely outside of the internet, on your own blog, etc. Do you not have to freedom to create your own website to do these things?

You want to talk about freedom of speech? Talk to those in China who truly have to deal with censorship laws. Or those from Iraq who have to watch what they say on facebook for fear of government intervention. But two forums taking away your freedom of speech and woe is me.

You have the freedom to come up with a solution to this first world problem and in that solution will allow you to express yourself freely.

I wish I was high, but its morning and I got shit to do.

[–]non_consensual -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

You haven't been following this at all have you?

[–]gwats -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

I have, but feel free to enlighten me. Also, feel free to actually provide a response that doesn't deflect mine.

[–]Monkey_Junk [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Also, feel free to actually provide a response that doesn't deflect mine.

Good luck getting that to happen.

[–]non_consensual -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

4chan doesn't respect free speech anymore. 8chan has had these same things happen to them numerous times. Creating your own website has it's own problems if you're constantly harassed be people that don't want you to exist (as we're seeing right now. in this very post. derp). Free expression still matters even if you aren't being locked up over it. Indeed, if you talk to any of those speaking out against their governments in those places I guarantee they would be on our side before they'd be on yours. It's nice you admit that these websites are stifling free speech though. You're already light-years ahead of some of your ilk.

You have the freedom to come up with a solution to this first world problem and in that solution will allow you to express yourself freely.

Which is exactly what happened in this very post. And look at the outcome.

[–]gwats [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

This is the outcome of bad planning and error. They chose a host from a country that doesn't allow free speech and you're surprised they pulled the plug? Find a willing host that wont give in to the "SJWs" email barrage or give up all together. It didn't take a day for Rome to be built.

How is stormfront able to find a host without "SJWs" tearing them down. How does coontown still exist?

Look, I'm just encouraging you to not give up and find your safe haven for whatever free speech you're looking. I just think the outcry against "SJWs" is tiring. People are building it up as this huge oppressive thing, but it comes off as conspiracy.

[–]non_consensual [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Oh I agree with you there. They definitely need to find a host that's actually worth their salt. I don't want a community that can't withstand some whiny offendatrons banding together to take them down. Really this whole ordeal is just going to make the community stronger by pointing out faults in the structure.

What would you need as proof? Mass censoring off of the defaulted gaming forums? The destruction of gaming forums like NeoGaf? The destruction of previous bastions of free speech like 4chan?

Every step of the way we have people like you gaslighting us and telling us we're paranoid. But time and time again we're proven correct.

[–]ja734 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah complaining that a hosting company didnt want to host a particular website is a first world problem

[–]Gazareth 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hosting content is not an active thing. It's not their choice what goes on there once they decide to open their doors, so they shouldn't be held accountable. This is some guilt by association shit.

[–]Redrum714 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

bullying content

What are you fucking 12? Ask your parents before getting on the internet next time.

[–]werno [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

If you can go on FPH and not find identifying characteristics of bullying behavior, you're blind. Also way to dispute the facts of the argument, good to see quality ad hominems in only the first layer of debate.

[–]Redrum714 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

If you go on FPH just to get all pissy about the content there, thats you're fault because you're a FUCKING IDIOT.

[–]werno [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I was never offended by it but the fact that such a toxic culture of hate was spreading like a cancer on all of reddit was enough for me to be happy it was banned. And then the front page was literally only unavoidable vitriolic shitposting that most of reddit just had to put up with. So no, not really.

[–]Redrum714 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

toxic culture of hate was spreading like a cancer on all of reddit

Wow people on the internet make fun of fat people. Who woulda knew! Must only be reddit!

front page was literally only unavoidable vitriolic shitposting

So you just admitted that you were sub'd to FPH and you're mad about seeing posts from FPH.... Like I said, you should probably just stay off the internet or learn how to us the site instead of whining about your incompetence.

[–]Chiafriend12 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

By political incorrectness do you mean not willing to do business with people who host ... jail bait, etc?

Where on earth did you pull that from? FPH, GG, KIA and every sub possibly related has absolutely nothing to do with jail bait