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[–]goshspeed 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

Interviewee just mentioned a 90 year old woman and children. Reporter cut him off because it's unconfirmed, but damn

[–]apfpilot 37ポイント38ポイント  (11子コメント)

[–]sprintercourse 49ポイント50ポイント  (8子コメント)

If that is true, then this story just got a lot bigger. A sitting state legislator killed in the church in which he was the pastor?

He may have been the target of the shooter.

[–]cis_shitlord [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

It is true. June 17th is also the anniversary of the Denmark Vesey slave revolt in Charleston. This Church was rebuilt by his son.

[–]the_Synapps [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Summary of Press Conference with Mayor Joe Riley and Charleston PD Chief Greg Mullins:

  • 9 Dead at Mother Emanuel Baptist
  • More injured, number not revealed
  • Suspect still on the run, call 911 if you have any info on his location
  • Description: White Male in his Early 20s; sandy blonde hair; wearing boots, jeans, and a grey sweatshirt/hoodie.
  • No confirmation on whether State Senator Rev. Clementa Pickney
  • Chief Mullins - "This is a hate crime."
  • No discussion about the active investigation, including whether "the photographer" is still in custody. He was released shortly after he was marched in front of the cameras.

Other Relevant Information

  • Prayer Service tomorrow at Noon, location unclear. Rev. Al Sharpton expected to attend.
  • Former FL Governor Jeb Bush has cancelled his planned visit to Charleston tomorrow.

  • Local NBC affiliate confirming State Senator Clementa Pinkney was killed in the church he pastored.

  • Next Press Conference at 3am. Probably won't be up for it, but I expect official confirmation of the State Senator's death at that time.

Edits: Added Description of suspect

Reformatted to use for future updates. Not expecting much more news tonight, will update with what I imagine will be a flood of information when I wake up (pretty late) in the morning.

Not going to keep a log of my edits anymore, any new info will be at the bottom of the post, sectioned off as best I can.

[–]BreazyStreet 145ポイント146ポイント  (162子コメント)

Wow... they're reporting 8 fatalities so far? Hopefully that number won't rise much. Suspect still on the run, as well.

[–]Dildo_Gagginss 53ポイント54ポイント  (4子コメント)

Theres a bomb threat now too

[–]morganmcgillgirl 26ポイント27ポイント  (1子コメント)

They are evacuating people on Henrietta across from the church. My friend was on the phone with us and the cops came to the door and told them they had to get out.

[–]Dildo_Gagginss 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

Theyre moving people to king now.

[–]the_Synapps 23ポイント24ポイント  (18子コメント)

According to local news, as many as 8 people were shot with multiple fatalities, all unconfirmed. There are also unconfirmed reports that a child is among the dead.

[–]cat_with_giant_boobs 9ポイント10ポイント  (24子コメント)

I saw that it was 10 somewhere else. So tragic.

[–]fadetoblack1004 17ポイント18ポイント  (22子コメント)

Can't wait to hear the pathetic reason the shooter decided to end these peoples lives and not his own...

[–]DrSalted 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Twitter list for news about the shooting at historic Emanuel AME Church in Charleston, SC

https://www.twitter.com/ninatypewriter/lists/south-carolina

[–]synacl1[S] 14ポイント15ポイント  (106子コメント)

[–]Taste_Detective 51ポイント52ポイント  (4子コメント)

The guy in custody most likely was in the wrong place at the wrong time, I live in Charleston, he's a photographer and does work for the homeless. Either way, all of downtown is shutdown.

[–]doomngloom80 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Can you imagine being totally innocent and being caught up in something like that just for matching a description? I'd be terrified and so confused.

That's a situation a person would be lucky to come out of alive; the suspect has demonstrated he's armed and dangerous.

[–]Codyyblake1 28ポイント29ポイント  (2子コメント)

Now they're saying he isn't an official subject, but he did match the description.

[–]Perniciouss 10ポイント11ポイント  (95子コメント)

Any word on who it is that they have? Are there other suspects still at large?

[–]perfect__ass 55ポイント56ポイント  (94子コメント)

That initial arrest turned out to be a false alarm. They are looking for a white, 21 year old male, grey hoodie.

  • Update 1: Man fitting description in custody outside a convenience store. Source

  • Update 2: Man from convenience store being escorted away. Source

  • Update 3: Charleston police say suspect is still at large, previous suspect not involved. Source

  • Update 4: Livestream to local news found here. Charleston Fire Dept radio broadcast found here.

[–]Skylarella 20ポイント21ポイント  (7子コメント)

Reports saying that that guy was in a convenience store and was just at the wrong place at the wrong time. Suspect still at large as of right now (11:02 ET).

[–]theHappyHiker 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

Holy shit. So the picture of that dude in cuffs "smiling" wasn't actually him?

[–]hurtsdonut_ 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

The high end camera around his neck was kind of a hint.

[–]theHappyHiker 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ah, I didn't see the picture of him with a camera. That must've been pretty terrifying for that guy.

[–]zeeginganinja 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, he's just a dude who does a HONY spinoff. My friends in downtown are reporting that the helicopters are still searching.

[–]Skylarella 37ポイント38ポイント  (18子コメント)

Yep, here's some more on what they're looking for: white, male, 21, grey sweater, possible hoodie, and timberland boots.

It's like 100 degrees around here so basically the ONLY guy wearing heavy clothes according to their description.

[–]aubra_cadabra 37ポイント38ポイント  (10子コメント)

Full disclosure, not an expert in anything and especially this. I would however, with the support of crime shows and Google (not much, but still) be able to say that there is enough historical reporting from post-crime suspect searching which would substantiate a claim that heavy clothing in hot weather is strategic. Layers of clothing are quick-ditch for a fleeing suspect.

He could be barefoot in a neon tank and athletic shorts in under a minute.

[–]fadetoblack1004 21ポイント22ポイント  (9子コメント)

Can confirm, I did some shitty stuff as a teenager, hoodies and jeans in the summertime are easy to dump and change your description really quickly. Empty backpack under a hoodie and some mesh shorts under your jeans, then get out, hit an alley, rip off the hoodie and jeans, throw them in the packpack (15-20 seconds max) and you go from being a guy in jeans and a hoodie to a dude in a tshirt and shorts with a backpack.

[–]EarlOakridge 16ポイント17ポイント  (7子コメント)

You don't want the suspects clothes in your backpack. Better off ditching them.

[–]fadetoblack1004 20ポイント21ポイント  (6子コメント)

Well for something like a mass shooting, yeah, but for what I was doing? Meh, nobody is cordoning off blocks and mass searching.

What about DNA in the clothes? I'm not sure I'd dump them.

[–]zeeginganinja 15ポイント16ポイント  (6子コメント)

21 is so specific. For them to say 21 over "early 20s" makes me think they have a good idea of who it is.

[–]fourbet 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

The 21 thing is very bizarre. I can't think of a reason why if they had a specific person of interest they wouldn't name him.

They took in a wrong guy off mistaken identity, so it appears they don't know exactly who they're looking for, but yet they're sure he's 21?

[–]sapo916 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

We all know what happens when premature accusations happen. It's really in their best interest to keep this on a need to know basis.

[–]lostinthestar 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

there is no way. that's a freelance cameraman that probably didn't comply with their instructions to gtfo.

There is NO WAY they are cuffing someone suspected of 8 murders in that manner. with his backpack still on - could be a bomb in there.

[–]perfect__ass 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I was also skeptical. They would not be acting so casual about it.

[–]prophet_ 67ポイント68ポイント  (34子コメント)

White dude shooting up a black church? This isn't going to go over well.

[–]Kate2point718 25ポイント26ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's terrible but that was my first thought as well. White guy shooting a black church led by a Democrat state senator--this has everything: race, religion, and politics. The church is even historic for being burned in a slave rebellion and for having secret services when black people were forbidden from worshiping. There is no way this isn't going to be a huge story.

Regardless, I feel horrible for the victims and their families. Their whole life changed in an instant and now they're in the national spotlight because of their tragedy.

[–]JohnFeique 6ポイント7ポイント  (7子コメント)

With black pants. The guy they detained didn't have a shirt on, but had black pants.

[–]OogieBoogie1 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is not the guy he's a photographer.

[–]MaxFreedomMoussa 77ポイント78ポイント  (13子コメント)

If we treated white people like black people on reddit:

Why are white people always going on shooting sprees? Where is the white community to condemn this problem? I'm not racist, I have a white friend, I just think there's a problem with their culture.

[–]kensomniac [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Have you not noticed the running jokes about the white kids shooting up the schools? It's a brave new, and hilarious, world.

[–]spinmasterx 24ポイント25ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yes let's analyze what causes white culture to produce deranged mass shooters...

[–]MGLLN [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

If we treated white people like black people on reddit

"Lol the white community need to get it's shit together. They do shit like this and wonder why people are racist against them!"

[–]DineLointHarpie [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

I get the feeling they have no idea where this guy is. The police chief said they'll definitely be putting out reward info tomorrow.

[–]Rawrmonger [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

They fucking don't. CPD is pretty incompetent, and nothing like this has ever happened here before. There are helicopters flying around my house, and I'm on the opposite end of the city. I just drove over the bridge and back. I saw no cops, no checkpoints...It's a goddamn Peninsula not many ways to get out. This dude is long gone. Unless there were decent cameras in that church he will never be caught.

[–]zeeginganinja [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I was thinking that too. Block the connector, the ravenel, and the 17 bridge and get the coast guard to lookout for boats. Block off everything trying to go north of the strip clubs. Its not too hard of an area to keep in check, especially at night on a Wednesday.

[–]Sunburn79 35ポイント36ポイント  (4子コメント)

I live in the lock down zone. Police in riot gear just searched my back yard. They're methodically working their way down the street.

[–]DineLointHarpie 31ポイント32ポイント  (2子コメント)

Lock your doors and windows. It has to be unnerving knowing this person hasn't been caught and could still be in the area.

[–]News_is_for_fools 29ポイント30ポイント  (9子コメント)

[–]vyn889 29ポイント30ポイント  (5子コメント)

People all over social media are still claiming he is the shooter, his life is going to be fucked for the next couple of days

[–]theobservantdude 18ポイント19ポイント  (3子コメント)

I doubt that. He had a phone interview with one of the TV stations just a moment ago to clear his record.

[–]vyn889 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

A TV Station interview isn't going to save him from the thousands of dumbasses on social media posting his picture claiming he's the shooter.

[–]Sodiepap [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Are people that dumb to say he's still the shooter even though the police JUST cleared and released him?

[–]shapu 45ポイント46ポイント  (7子コメント)

Report is that state senator Clementa Pinckney, pastor at the church, is among the dead.

https://twitter.com/occupytheport/status/611386313128849409

[–]goshspeed 14ポイント15ポイント  (6子コメント)

Is the fact that he is a senator potentially part of a motive? Don't know anything about him or his views

[–]shapu 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

Possible. Could be race, politics, sex, or random. At this point casting about for ideas is as effective as trying to snatch smoke.

[–]goshspeed 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fair enough, wasn't sure if the senator had done something controversial or something. We will wait and see

[–]the_Synapps 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its possible, though doubtful as he isn't all that well known outside of his district. I follow state politics quite closely and have never heard of him.

[–]BlatantConservative 59ポイント60ポイント  (4子コメント)

I created a live thread.

http://www.reddit.com/live/v3f8b7po97cm

Reply to this comment with anything that you see that I might not have seen.

PM /u/tolfer10 with info I gotta sleep I had a 10 hour shift.

[–]oceansjb 110ポイント111ポイント  (9子コメント)

I live one block from there. Its scary hearing the helicopters flying overhead for the past hour nonstop. It always seems like this sort of thing happens in other places, someone else's world. But its here in my backyard and its such a helpless feeling. The fact children were involved makes this even worse.

[–]FrunkisOA 15ポイント16ポイント  (4子コメント)

wow I bet, that would be pretty surreal. have you been evacuated?

[–]oceansjb 16ポイント17ポイント  (3子コメント)

No I am on meeting street where it seems they are sending the people evacuated. It's really quiet now for the past 5 minutes

[–]goshspeed 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

I thought meeting street just got shutdown?

[–]oceansjb 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Parts of it may be. It runs through the length of what most consider "downtown"

[–]goshspeed 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gotcha. Not from here but happen to be in the area-ish. Stay safe

[–]Skylarella 90ポイント91ポイント  (29子コメント)

Dang, it's taking a while for the national news to pick up on this. Can't find hardly anything except what's on The Post & Courier's Twitter.

[–]illustrious_gubbins 20ポイント21ポイント  (4子コメント)

The headline was at least reported on CNN twice and hour ago.

[–]imahotdoglol 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's currently their leading story on cnn.com

[–]DEATH-BY-CIRCLEJERK 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's also now being covered exclusively live on the channel.

[–]BlatantConservative 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

For once the "breaking news" banner is actual breaking news

[–]CptTurnersOpticNerve 57ポイント58ポイント  (12子コメント)

Maybe they're checking their facts instead of racing to be first.

[–]MaxFreedomMoussa 122ポイント123ポイント  (7子コメント)

Hahaha, but seriously, what do you think they're actually doing?

[–]stevo1078 55ポイント56ポイント  (1子コメント)

Isn't CNN still looking for that plane?

[–]Disssented [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

They only have almost all of the ocean left to go.

[–]Panzerdrek 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Covering the new Pizza Hut hot dog crust pizza I would have to assume.

[–]vecnyj [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Usually this late they have international coverage. It probably takes some time to get live stuff from NC running.

[–]rainwaterh [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

i was downtown when it happened. police and emergency response was fast. about ten police cars, three fire trucks, and multiple ems vehicles.

[–]dk01 37ポイント38ポイント  (1子コメント)

Twitter and local news is reporting a name that was called into dispatch claiming to be the shooter. Please remember that this call could easily be some kids messing around so don't post any names until they catch this sicko.

Edit: unfortunately some in this thread are posting the name. Please help by flagging those comments.

[–]AmadeusK482 215ポイント216ポイント  (50子コメント)

Let's keep this discussion civil and bear solemnity for the victims

[–]DopeandDiamonds 44ポイント45ポイント  (28子コメント)

I am not from the area but it seems late for church services. Could this have occured during some sort of meeting? Maybe an AA meeting or something that has no relation to the actual church and it's members?

Edit: AA is not an African American meeting. It is an Alcholics Anon meeting. How someone did not know that amazes me.

[–]mistergrime 35ポイント36ポイント  (5子コメント)

A pastor from another church said that Wednesday night at AME usually had prayer service and bible study. The shooting occurred at around 9pm. A bit late, but not out of the question for church services.

[–]CustosClavium 55ポイント56ポイント  (2子コメント)

Almost all churches in the South have Wednesday night prayer/study/fellowship stuff going on.

[–]1337and0 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

I live in Maine and pretty much any church that I know of has Wednesday night prayer meetings

[–]DopeandDiamonds 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nine is not late but I thought based on comments being noted as an hour old that it happened much later, after 10 or so.

[–]goshspeed 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

It was during a bible study

[–]DopeandDiamonds 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Must have misses that. Thanks. Just seemed that it is now getting picked up. I thought it happened within the last 90 min range, 10:30ish. Sorry.

[–]goshspeed 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

It happened at around 9:00 EST, news started covering it around 10:30

[–]TheHebrewHammer_ 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Christians go to church Wednesday nights.

[–]DopeandDiamonds 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

As I stated in another reply, I was mixed up on the time. I thought this happened @10:30 or so when this post gained traction. Did not realize we are nearly 2.5 hours in with no national news.

[–]McGirthy 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nine confirmed dead. Fuck that dude.

[–]SubGeniusX 22ポイント23ポイント  (25子コメント)

Scanner says possible explosive device on property.

[–]Dildo_Gagginss 10ポイント11ポイント  (20子コメント)

Yes, bomb threats set to detonate on a timer.

[–]HighGuy92 20ポイント21ポイント  (18子コメント)

And planted around the city. Hopefully this guy isn't intelligent enough to do that because holy shit that would be horrific.

Edit (1:07 AM EST)- Bomb threat over according to police

[–]nekurashinen 17ポイント18ポイント  (14子コメント)

my guess: he called in bomb threats in locations away from where he is heading to throw off the police and send them covering those areas. a guy like this doesn't call a threat in, he just blows them. he didn't call a threat in before he shot up the church, did he? somewhat clever but also rather predictable.

[–]HighGuy92 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think you're right. If he's willing to just waltz into a church and murder more than a half-dozen people, he probably wouldn't be so calculated with setting off bombs.

[–]reverendrambo 6ポイント7ポイント  (10子コメント)

I hope you are right. I think he's trying to distract until he can get away

[–]vultures8 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

source for multiple planted around city?

[–]Dildo_Gagginss 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its on our local news station, idk if I can link to it anywhere.

[–]WolfKisses 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

I live about a mile away. Shits pretty crazy around here

[–]zeeginganinja 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Is the helicopter still out? My SO just left downtown about an hour ago and said they were definitely still searching.

[–]the_Synapps 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Chief of Police just said they are still looking for him.

[–]SubGeniusX 11ポイント12ポイント  (6子コメント)

Scanner feed was pretty active up until about 10 minutes ago been strangely quiet since. Police may have switched to digital encrypted channels. http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/18624/web

Edit: Seems only Fire EMS on scanner.

[–]JSUknow 33ポイント34ポイント  (17子コメント)

I turned to CNN and saw Dr. Drew Talking about Dolezal... I don't care what color the shooter is, the guy just ran in a church and shot people, little help finding him please?!

[–]DineLointHarpie 15ポイント16ポイント  (7子コメント)

Dr Drew? He's an entertainer- what is he doing on a news channel. There has been a real dumbing down of the news in this country. It's largely infotainment, not news.

[–]the_Synapps 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

He's CNN's chief medical consultantor something like that.

[–]Ophelianeedsanap [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well, Fox News is currently talking to Trump who is ranting about Obama and Muslims.. . It's really hard to find a good news source these days.

[–]SubGeniusX 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Staging additional Fire Engines at scene, for a bomb threat.

[–]SubGeniusX 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Looking for Grey metal tool box 86min countdown. Nitroglycerin.

[–]morganmcgillgirl 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bomb threat is real, friend on Henrietta was evacuated from her home by police while in the middle of a phone call with us.

[–]IAmOfficial [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

A group of people are going to protest on a street corner until the suspect is apprehended, according to local news. /u/BlatantConservative

What good is this going to do? Its not like the police aren't actively trying to find and arrest this guy.

[–]GTerschluse [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I'm worried they will divert resources needed for search to protests

[–]Kate2point718 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I was wondering the same thing. What are they even protesting? Everyone involved in the search thinks this is terrible and is working hard at finding this guy. I can't imagine how standing on a street corner could help find him.

Maybe there's more to it and I'm just missing something though.

[–]ShadowHandler 13ポイント14ポイント  (6子コメント)

This will surely calm racial tensions in this country...

[–]LaLongueCarabine 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's so sad how little life matters to some assholes

[–]choirchic 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

Lots of conflicting reports about who is in custody. Several outlets still reporting suspect at large.

[–]Sn1pe 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm seeing that the guy who was recently arrested who is probably going viral may have just been a photographer.

[–]paradise_crossed [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

I wonder if William Joy on the live stream realizes his mic is hot. He seemed really excited about "how well they were doing" and the increase in people following his twitter account.

edit: grammar

[–]SubGeniusX 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

PD advising EMS and Fire that scene is secure.

[–]apfpilot 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

perimeter expanded. FD assigned to EOD

[–]helpmeredditimbored [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Longtime State Senator, and the Church's minister, Clementa Pinckney among the dead https://twitter.com/craigmelvin/status/611394203415937024

[–]goshspeed [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Bomb threat officially cleared

[–]ahrimanic_trance 17ポイント18ポイント  (17子コメント)

If I were a gamblin' man I'd make a bet that the police manage to take this guy in alive when they find him

[–]goshspeed 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hope so, but I'm worried he'll go out shooting

[–]RP61391 9ポイント10ポイント  (9子コメント)

Given their recent track record, my money's on the SoB committing suicide-by-cop or getting killed in the inevitable shootout. He will not be taken alive, mark my words.

Since a state legislator is among the dead, you're going to Hell no matter how you look at it. If not by your own hand, then it will be at the hands of the police or federal government, or an angry mob who likes to take justice into their own hands.

You're ****ed. Plain and simple. There's no way out.

[–]fantasyMLShelper 14ポイント15ポイント  (15子コメント)

Suspect

  • White male

  • ~21 years of age

  • Sandy-blonde hair

  • Extremely dangerous

Contact police immediately if you see him

[–]automoebeale 25ポイント26ポイント  (12子コメント)

It was at an African Methodist church, had to be some psycho extremist with an agenda.

[–]Brownhops 59ポイント60ポイント  (63子コメント)

This church is called the African Methodist Church. The suspect being white, the media will have a field day with this. Let's see the motivations of this monster.

Edit: Alleged shooter appears to be in custody. http://i.imgur.com/abs4gKl.jpg

Edit2: Shooter might still be at large.

@CharlestonPD: Police still searching for suspect in Shooting on Calhoun Street.

Tweet was sent after pics of alleged shooter were released. Person in custody might just be a photographer.

Edit3: The pastor of Emanuel AME Church is State Senator Clementa Pinckney.

Edit4: ABC reporting that State Senator Pinckney and his sister are two of the victims.

Edit5: "I do believe it was a hate crime." —Chief Greg Mullen, Charleston PD.

[–]mistergrime 146ポイント147ポイント  (18子コメント)

I mean, it's important to note that this isn't just any majority-black church. It's one of the most historic congregations of its kind in the country, and has played a not insignificant role in a number of social movements. I'm not speculating on motive, but the cultural significance of the church and congregation do raise questions.

Edit: A little more background on the church, from the National Park Service. The church's roots are at the very heart of the fight for - and was quite literally burned to the ground for - black freedom:

"In 1822 the church was investigated for its involvement with a planned slave revolt. Denmark Vesey, one of the church's founders, organized a major slave uprising in Charleston. Vesey was raised in slavery in the Virgin Islands among newly imported Africans. He was the personal servant of slavetrader Captain Joseph Vesey, who settled in Charleston in 1783. Denmark remained with him until in 1799, when he was able to purchase his freedom with a winning lottery ticket worth $1500. He became a successful carpenter, especially among Charleston's majority black population. Beginning in December 1821, Vesey began to organize a slave rebellion, but authorities were informed of the plot before it could take place. Three hundred thirteen alleged participants were arrested, and 35 including Vesey were executed. The plot created mass hysteria throughout the Carolinas and the South. Brown, suspected but never convicted of knowledge of the plot, went north to Philadelphia where he eventually became the second bishop of the AME denomination.

During the Vesey controversy, the AME church was burned. Worship services continued after the church was rebuilt until 1834 when all-black churches were outlawed. The congregation subsequently met in secret until 1865 when it was formally reorganized, and the name Emanuel was adopted."

[–]the_Synapps 34ポイント35ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's also pastored by a member of our state legislature. I'm from a different part of the state, but our local news led with this and is covering it pretty heavily.

[–]mistergrime 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

I've been seeing unconfirmed reports that the Reverend may have been at the church when the shooting occurred.

[–]the_Synapps 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Police won't confirm it, but it seems like there are enough sources to confirm it. It's a sad day in South Carolina.

[–]atlwantsmls 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Apparently he and a few members of his family are victims.

[–]Maxplatypus 30ポイント31ポイント  (12子コメント)

This is nothing short of terrorism

[–]MaxFreedomMoussa 29ポイント30ポイント  (4子コメント)

It will never be called terrorism though, that's reserved for brown people who makes threats on facebook.

[–]OP_IS_A_FUCKFACE 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

FYI, when you make edits, you can actually remove incorrect information.

[–]applearoma 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

kinda fucked up to just draw a line through the picture of the innocent guy instead of remove it.

[–]Nightbynight [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

he suspect being white, the media will have a field day with this. Let's see the motivations of this monster.

And if it was a white church with a black suspect reddit would be having a field day.

[–]choirchic 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reports coming in about a bomb threat, people being moved from the courtyard marriott.

[–]leaknoil [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You can watch local coverage streaming here Away for commercial at the moment but, they come back.

[–]EverWatcher 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

While we're waiting for the next early steps of the investigation, we should keep our speculations to a moderate roar. There's plenty of time to freak out and to argue about politics later.

[–]itsfineitsgreat 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Really? I heard it was an adherent to [a political position that I disagree with].

[–]Clemalum07 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thoughts go out to the victims

[–]Roastafarian 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Cable news isn't even talking about it, not even on the little ticker at the bottom of the screen. kinda weird

[–]the_Synapps 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Apparently CNN is covering, the central SC local news just read a report confirming multiple fatalities from them. There isn't a whole lot of info to share yet, although that hasn't stopped cable news from covering this stuff in the past.

[–]Brownhops [スコア非表示]  (15子コメント)

I got a text from a friend saying, he knows someone in the area and they told him that this shooter sat in the bible study for 30mins before shooting everyone except one person, "so they can tell the story of what happened."

Third hand info, so take it for what's worth.

[–]groovetopia 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

They are about to have a police press conference in about 5 minutes. Theres a live stream for anyone who wants to follow. http://www.wbtv.com/category/258124/wbtv-live-stream2?clienttype=generic

[–]shadow9542 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I am absolutely disgusted at this news.

[–]CaptainChronocide [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

All descriptions seem to say the suspect is 21 but that seems sort of specific doesn't it? Think the police have a suspect name & they're just not releasing? I dunno. Struck me as odd.

[–]Calimali [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

A bunch of people get killed and this place is overrun with nasty trolls. I used to think Reddit was a more intelligent and thoughtful internet community, but this place looks more and more like the cesspool that was the Yahoo News comments section back in the day.

Rest in Peace to the victims.

[–]Jww21 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

It's the internet. The trolls are downvoted to hell and barely visible if you sort by 'best'. Where else would you go? A Twitter # ?, a Facebook post? News comments? Where else can you find user sorted comments? Also, don't assume everyone on Reddit is intelligent or that it is more intelligent than the general populace. You don't have to be intelligent to create an account and submit.

[–]SUPERSIZE_DIETCOKE 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Suspect Info:

  • White Male
  • 21?
  • Sandy Blonde Hair
  • Wearing boots / jeans

Not much info but I am sure he will be found. Rest in Peace to everyone who lost their lives today.

[–]reverendrambo [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

If its being investigated as a hate crime, as they just confirmed in a press conference, will that be based on religion or race or both?

[–]PitchforkSharpener [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

If they are treating this as a hate crime, does that mean it's likely that they have information from the shooting that there was a racial motive? For instance the shooter could have made racist statements during the shooting.

Or are they just assuming that's the case? I have absolutely no care either way and just am wondering how that would work to announce it already.

[–]cap_crunch121 [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Racial or religious. Black or white, when someone shoots up a church that falls under a hate crime, regardless of race

[–]Mapleleaferman 23ポイント24ポイント  (8子コメント)

Social media witch hunt strikes again. The kid they arrested was a photographer and not the shooter. Still, even now people are saying it was him. I never wanted to sue people anymore than I do right now. Fuck people.