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Muslims most associated with terrorism, poll reveals (telegraph.co.uk)

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[–]OJSlaughterHumanist Libertarian (Serial Flair Changer) [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Are Catholics most associated with the Pope also?

[–]AtomicMonkeyTheFirst [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think a recent poll also had some figures about bears shitting in the woods.

[–]VampireFrown [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm sorry, when did this become news?

[–]t90fan [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

well thats unsurprising, they are the ones who have been doing it most recently

if you asked in the 70s or 80s you would have probably said irishmen for the same reason.

[–]britishchink0.38, -1.90 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I've seen this poll. They say 'most associated with terrorism' when only 12% chose that. That means 88% didn't go with terrorism. I also calculated that overall, 66% did not choose any of the negative words to describe Muslims. The negative words included intolerant, radical, fanatic, strict, misogynistic, extreme and some others.

[–]GAdvanceLefty Loon [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So basically this poll is bullshit, the telegraph have been awfully daily mail like since the election campaign started and don't appear to be slowing down

[–]niftykettlesPro Commonwealth, Pro UKIP [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

/r/noshitsherlock

[–]ProfessorZ00MI do not have the right not to do so[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Top kek, I think I'll post this there as well.

[–]Lolworth💂🇬🇧 London Liberal [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

m'narrative

[–]AwsumoIf you don't agree with me entirely then you're an evil Nazi [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

........ really Telegraph.... .......
REALLY..........

[–]FreeSpeech4All [スコア非表示]  (16子コメント)

"It's time we celebrated the role British Muslims play as part of the solution rather than demonising the Muslim community as part of the problem."

Without Muslims there wouldn't be a problem.

And make no mistake, there wouldn't be had the British people ever been consulted.

[–]Eggfibre☭ Far Left ☭ [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

It seems ironic that someone with the username FreeSpeech4All is implying we should get rid of Muslims. Free speech for all unless it's speech you don't like?

[–]SpudgunnCyberunionist [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Yes, they can have free speech, somewhere else.

[–]Lolworth💂🇬🇧 London Liberal [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

"There is a vegetarian option - you can fuck off!"

[–]SpudgunnCyberunionist [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Frankie "Open the borders to Africa unless you're racist" Boyle.

[–]FreeSpeech4All [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

It's not so much their speech I take issue with, rather their propensity for grooming and raping young white girls, blowing people up on the way to work, beheading people in the street... you know, that kind of thing.

[–]Eggfibre☭ Far Left ☭ [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

That's such a small minority though. You don't dismiss all Irish on the grounds that a few were in the IRA for example.

[–]FreeSpeech4All [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

That's because for all intents and purposes the Irish are ethnically and culturally indistinguishable from the Welsh, Scots and English. Pakistanis are not.

And it's not a small minority, poll after poll has shown that the majority of "moderate" Muslims support the aims of their more militant counterparts.

[–]Eggfibre☭ Far Left ☭ [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Free speech for all unless you're brown or from somewhere far away?

[–]FreeSpeech4All [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Who wants to deny them free speech? Certainly not me.

To the contrary, I only wish more of them were as honest as the likes of Anjem Choudary.

[–]GargantuathemightyChampagne Socialist [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

Consulted on what?

[–]SpudgunnCyberunionist [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Whether or not to allow mass immigration from Muslim nations to Britain.

[–]GargantuathemightyChampagne Socialist [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Do you want an equally large tin of paint to go with that mighty brush you're painting "Muslim" countries with?

[–]NotSoBlue_Hobbesian Centrist [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Aren't they mostly from commonwealth countries?

[–]LordMondandoLiberal Pragmatist. [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Almost entirely from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, so yup.

[–]itz4mnaLiberal Tory [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Some but not all. Bangladesh and Pakistan are both members of the Commonwealth but they are republics, when people refer to the Commonwealth on this sub they're normally referring to the Commonwealth Realms which don't include any Muslim majority countries.

[–]sw_faultyCornwall [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So they are Commonwealth countries.

[–]sovereignindividualPro-austerity Edgelord [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Given the current affairs of the last 15 years, this seems obvious.

Survey finds Greece the country most associated with Feta Cheese.

[–]Bacchus87Tory [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well the Irish have been behaving lately, they've not really got masses of competition.

[–]GargantuathemightyChampagne Socialist [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

And in Apartheid South Africa, Nelson and co were branded as 'terrorists'. The word means very little and has been reduced to a media buzzword with the intention of suppressing any actual discussion of why people choose to blow themselves up or take up arms against the status quo. Easy way to de-humanize someone.

[–]EwanWhoseArmyWe're all Doomed [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter

However I highly doubt ISIS and Al Qaeda have anyone's freedom in mind.

[–]thatdamnedsalarianLib Dem (0.13, -5.59) l Social Liberal [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

ISIS and Al Qaeda have anyone's freedom in mind

They don't, but Sunni tribes might see them as a better option than a Shia dominated Iraq or Alawite dominated Syria.

[–]GargantuathemightyChampagne Socialist [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Of course, I'm talking about the general idea of what a "terrorist" is. ISIS can get tae fuck in my opinion, but generally I find that the word is being used a lot recently, without any actual thought into what it means.

[–]ShitfacePhil [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

And in Apartheid South Africa, Nelson and co were branded as 'terrorists'.

Really? REALLY?

It may be a term that is used incorrectly quite often, but in relation to most Islamic extremists it is a perfect description. They are terrorists.

[–]popadom4u [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

And in Apartheid South Africa, Nelson and co were branded as 'terrorists'

Because they absolutely were.

They butchered women and children, civillains,m with gay abandon

[–]artismyhustleBring in the first amendment and keep FPTP [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

The ANC were a mild manured, middle class, peaceful quite Christian movement until very late in the day. If the Apartheid regime had ceased to exist and stopped the demarcation of black south africans not just by skin pigmentation, but also tribal allegiance, ethno-linguistic groupings and so on, then violence would never have happened. The moral responsibility for the violence rests on those who allowed the situation to degrade so badly.

[–]popadom4u [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The ANC were a mild manured, middle class, peaceful quite Christian movement until very late in the day

1962 http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/20/nelson-mandela-weapons-training-mossad-agents

communist no?

If the Apartheid regime had ceased to exist and stopped the demarcation of black south africans not just by skin pigmentation, but also tribal allegiance, ethno-linguistic groupings and so on, then violence would never have happened.

Obviously not since it has only got more violent since it ended.

[–]Pallas_Back into the depths of Cocytus with you. [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The moral responsibility for the violence rests on those who allowed the situation to degrade so badly.

Horse shit. The moral responsibility lies with those who commit the violent acts. Thousands upon thousands of people were ant-apartheid without murdering people or wrapping barbed wire round someone's neck and setting them on fire like Nelson's followers did.

[–]SpudgunnCyberunionist [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well, they were.

[–]Pallas_Back into the depths of Cocytus with you. [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

And in Apartheid South Africa, Nelson and co were branded as 'terrorists'.

And rightfully so.