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/r/AgainstHateSubreddits - A subreddit dedicated to refuting and mocking hate subreddits such as CoonTown or FPH (reddit.com)

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[–]EugeneNix 16ポイント17ポイント  (27子コメント)

This place bans for dissenting opinion. Thread lightly. They called me a nigger in modmail, so much for being against hate.

[–]DanglyW 11ポイント12ポイント  (6子コメント)

As you've been so good in pointing out, that did happen in modmail, by a newer and since demodded mod. I'm sorry someone insulted you with slurs. It's very rude and offensive when people do that.

[–]EugeneNix 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

I try to point out injustice whenever, and wherever. I'm glad you see things my way.

[–]DanglyW 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'm glad you're aware of injustices against the very minorities you denounce and denigrate. Hopefully you will stop merely pointing out or perpetuating injustice, and start raising awareness of it.

[–]DsagjiiggsScjjigsjsb[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント  (18子コメント)

We ban for shitposting. Dissenting opinion is allowed, as seen in our sidebar. We're not SRS.

[–]EugeneNix 3ポイント4ポイント  (17子コメント)

SRS doesnt call people niggers.

[–]DanglyW 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, but you do, frequently, in lots of places around reddit.

[–]DsagjiiggsScjjigsjsb[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (14子コメント)

Cherry picking. Did you miss Dangly's response?

Besides, you call people n*ggers every day given that you mod CoonTown...

[–]ConqueefStador 6ポイント7ポイント  (9子コメント)

Calling someone a n*gger in an anti-hate subreddit doesn't sound like cherry picking, it sounds like whale watching, it doesn't always rear it's head but it's pretty big and hard to miss.

Besides, you call people n*ggers every day given that you mod CoonTown...

This is my problem with "anti-hate", SRS, TRP etc, it's all the same thing, you're just preaching "socially acceptable hate" and pretending you have a leg to stand on. I don't care that /r/coontown exists because I never go there and no one tries to shove racist bullshit down my throat. It affects my life about as much as a town meeting in Toad Suck, Arkansas. I know /r/coontown is a bunch of racist idiots and not much I do will stop that, so I save myself the frustration and don't jump down that dark hole.

Crap from SRS and like minded thinkers is always bleeding out though and I don't know what I hate more about it. The hypocrisy? The first damn thing I knew about your subreddit is that one of your mods called someone a ngger. Maybe it's the fact that *this is the shit people try to shove down my throat, if I don't agree with you I'm just as bad. Or maybe it's the fact that you making everything you're working against worse by picking at the scab. I wouldn't even know about /r/coontown or /r/fatpeoplehate if it wasn't people like you guys. I was fine with my front page being about news, videos, cats, posts that aren't actually funny but are in /r/funny and Askreddit threads, but you morons came across a pile of shit you couldn't clean up so you're next best idea was to kick it onto everyone else.

[–]DanglyW 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Oh, please be clear - we aren't trying to get coontown banned. We aren't trying to silence anyone. We aren't trying to 'kick the shit anywhere else'.

These hate subs make a lot of claims that are factually and demonstrably incorrect. We factually demonstrate how incorrect these claims are. If CT wants to be racist, that's their deal. We just don't want them being racist with our reality.

[–]ConqueefStador -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

>We aren't trying to silence anyone

Some highlights;

I'm glad I got him IP banned forever so nobody has to deal with his shit anymore... I have no regrets.

Break out the champagne!

I have no love for /r/CT. I wouldn't care if they got banned, I might care that they got banned because of subs like yours. My real problem is the hypocrisy

Actually, I don't think you read our header -

This subreddit is a place to both mock and refute the ideas of subreddits....

I would love to see a subreddit that was actually anti-hate. Hate is a choice, sadly a very easy choice to make. People who took on the difficult task of trying to affect change through positivity, I'd want to be apart of that.

Your sub is creating nothing more than another circle jerk and the problem is you expect others to join you, but I'm sick of the hate. I'm the one who has to feel it, I'm the one who is affected by that vitriol, that frustration, anger, or fear when not seeing eye to eye with others. Others may cause it but it requires I make a choice to hold onto it, and I don't want to. I could have better spent my time on something that interested me but instead a chance click or /r/newreddits has dragged me once again into the mud of so called "anti-hate", and that's my fault for not choosing to just leave it alone.

Maybe just call your subreddit "hate squared", because it's still hate, you're just way more self-righteous about it.

[–]DanglyW 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm not sure I understand your point - some people who post int he sub are celebrating that someone else got banned. I'm not sure how you think that's a reflection of the subs goal to mock and refute the bigoted claims of a racist sub.

We don't expect anyone to join us, or agree with us. Like all subs on reddit, we aim to provide a platform for people to mock and refute hate subs. If you don't want to see that anymore, feel free to ignore it and not reply. But if the fact that we, like all subs, advertised on /r/newreddits bothers you, I think you need to take a deep breath and calm down. If this is too much for you (which is perfectly understandable! I often take multiple day if not week breaks from dealing with this all), then nothing it making you deal with it.

[–]ConqueefStador 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Quote from you,

>We aren't trying to silence anyone

which links right to a post where some one from your subreddit celebrates and takes credit for getting some one from /r/coontown banned. I'd say that definitely counts as silencing some one.

Like many unfortunate subreddits you aim to provide a platform for venting, for vitriol and for hate. I saw plenty of mocking but only one of the your current 8 threads had comments refuting any racist misconceptions.

It's not your advertising that bothers me, it's your content. What "anti-hate" movements offer are the same thing in a different package. A socially acceptable hate for a new breed of the hateful. It's still just hate. It still just devolves into petty arguments and baser instincts.

Pick any group of people, humanity has probably gone through the entire gamete and at one point some asshole has convinced a bunch of other assholes that those are the people you should hate. Those people are wrong, those people are evil. Those people, at a fundamental level are so different from us that they do not deserve... fill in the blank.

Hate is a virus, and what your sub will do is provide another incubator that will draw in the hateful and suck in the lost. And you do it under the same color of legitimacy that any group who encourages hate does.

[–]DanglyW -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're shifting the goalposts impressively. We aren't trying to silence anyone. Some people celebrate the banning of a few bigots. For some reason you take this as proof that we're trying to get people banned.

Again, this is a new sub, coming from another sub. Our sidebar literally has a link to refutations. The sub is a few days old and you're angry we don't have more refutations.

But ok, if you can't see the word 'refutation' and can only focus on the word 'mocking' then maybe this isn't the sub for you. I hope you have a great night.

[–]DsagjiiggsScjjigsjsb[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Calling someone a n*gger in an anti-hate subreddit doesn't sound like cherry picking, it sounds like whale watching, it doesn't always rear it's head but it's pretty big and hard to miss.

That was one user, and after the incident in question the old mods have been discussing it with strong negativity (which, you'll note, EugeneNix refused to include). It is indeed cherry-picking, and more a testimony that we should mod more carefully. He has demodded himself and he may as well not be modded back.

Crap from SRS and like minded thinkers is always bleeding out though and I don't know what I hate more about it.

If you don't want to go into hate subs, than don't visit AHS. You ranting about how bad we are for "kicking shit into everyone else" is just as hypocritical. We're not forcing anyone to visit AHS (while FPH would regularly get into /r/all).

[–]ConqueefStador 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

It is indeed cherry-picking

Your sub is 12 days old, it has 8 posts and a mod called someone a ngger fggot. I can't ignore a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that position because there's nothing significant about your sub yet. The most significant thing so far appears to be your ironically racist mod.

He has demodded himself and he may as well not be modded back.

And you may not invite him back. I mean talk about shooting yourself in the fucking foot before you even started walking. I get it, this man may not represent your subreddit or your ideals and my bias may be that subs like your are being hypocritical in your brand of hate but it doesn't exactly disprove my bias when I go into your announcement thread and the very first comment is about a mod calling someone a n*gger.

You ranting about how bad we are for "kicking shit into everyone else" is just as hypocritical

Where exactly is the hypocrisy? Where am I saying one thing and doing another? This is your rodeo, I'm just responding to the shit your sub has already kicked up. And i'm not claiming to be "anti-hate" believe me I hate the hypocritical self-righteous circle jerk subs like yours start.

We're not forcing anyone to visit AHS (while FPH would regularly get into /r/all).

No one forces anyone to go anywhere on Reddit or to even go on Reddit in the first place. But it seeps in, if it didn't how exactly did I get here? You're not forcing anyone but FPH was? You're right they're wrong, my hate good, their hate bad? That's what bothers me, maybe it all starts with the right reason, end racism, end hate, yup, those would both be good things, but that's not what you're doing. Your perpetuating a different type of hate, appropriating an actual decent cause to give legitimacy to your bullshit, shoving it down other people's throats and expecting them to swallow.

I know, believe me I know, I can't change your mind on this, it's just as fruitless as you trying to explain why racism is bad over /r/coontown. So go have fun in your subreddit, secure in the fact that your brand of hate is righteous and just. I'm just going to log-off for the day and waste my time in a way I enjoy.

[–]DsagjiiggsScjjigsjsb[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your sub is 12 days old, it has 8 posts and a mod called someone a ngger fggot. I can't ignore a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that position because there's nothing significant about your sub yet. The most significant thing so far appears to be your ironically racist mod.

Yes, that may indeed be the most significant thing so far (although we were also /r/AgainstTheChimpire before). However, consider its aftermath. The mod in question is no longer a mod, and the old mods have negatively commented on it. If you go through our mod history you might see that this mod was modded last. It is cherrypicking, I would say, to focus only on this incident and not its aftermath.

I mean talk about shooting yourself in the fucking foot before you even started walking.

I don't like to talk in certainties and use "may" a lot, it's a habit I have. In other words, he will not be remodded. Period.

Where exactly is the hypocrisy?

The hypocrisy is that you are complaining for us complaining about CoonTown. You say that you will never go to CT and it does not affect your life in any way, and you blame us for enforcing CT on you. But you don't have to go to AHS either! There's no reason to go to AHS if you don't want to! So yes, we posted in /r/newreddits. Do you have to visit every subreddit you see on /r/newreddits? In fact, if you go into the default comments a lot, CT will be mentioned far more than AHS, and you still have no problem not visiting CT! That's the hypocrisy.

But it seeps in, if it didn't how exactly did I get here?

CoonTown is mentioned very frequently in the defaults (it's part of their advertising campaign). FPH would regularly enter /r/all. These subreddits "seep in" far more than subreddits like ours do. And you don't have a problem with not going to CT or FPH, while you do have a problem with AHS? This seems contradictory.

shoving it down other people's throats

We're not doing this. Again, do you subscribe to every subreddit you see on /r/newreddits? We're not forcing everyone to subscribe on gunpoint. We're advertising, just like any other subreddit, on newreddits. Why would you be offended at this?

your brand of hate

Hating people who hate irrationally is a brand of hate, but it's not remotely comparable to hating irrationally in the first place.

[–]EugeneNix 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

If it was clearly wrong, I could have at least gotten an apology.

[–]DanglyW -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Or there would have been consequences for the person who was clearly wrong, i.e., being demodded.

Like, you know, what happened. Also, I'm sorry someone called you bad names. It's very offensive and wrong when people do that.

[–]EugeneNix -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Apology accepted. If only the perpetrator could do so without using you as a proxy, because you yourself have nothing to apologize for, yourself.

[–]rahkobear2 -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

ok

[–]rahkobear2 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

ok

[–]rahkobear2 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

ok

[–]scottiesetsfire 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because two hates make a love.

[–]DanglyW -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, but proving providing evidence for why their claims are utterly false may convince them to stop using shitty science to back their claims, or, might convince someone on the fence to not listen to them.

[–]fckingmiracles 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like it.

[–]appropriate-username 1ポイント2ポイント  (9子コメント)

Yes, that's how you stop hate, more hate!

[–]DanglyW 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

You should check out the sub - we aren't being hateful, we're refuting the claims made by hateful people.

Though, to be honest, this whole 'you can't be intolerant of my intolerance!' drivel is a pretty weak argument to try and stand on.

[–]appropriate-username 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

'you can't be intolerant of my intolerance!

It's called "don't feed the trolls."

[–]DanglyW 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

CoonTowners aren't trolling, though, obviously, some of them are trolls.

Which is why we only argue with the facts. If they say 'I hate black people', we don't argue that point. If they say 'black people are mentally inferior', we argue that point.

[–]appropriate-username 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

we argue that point.

/r/AgainstHateSubreddits - A subreddit dedicated to ... mocking hate subreddits

I don't think "argue" means what you think it means.

[–]DanglyW 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Actually, I don't think you read our header -

This subreddit is a place to both mock and refute the ideas of subreddits that exist solely to propagate bigotry towards a certain race,

[–]appropriate-username 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

This subreddit is a place to both mock

Again, if you're mocking people, you're no longer arguing, you're just an ass and a troll feeder.

[–]DanglyW 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you say so. I'm not going to continue belaboring the point with you here, and you're welcome to come see refutations. Remember, the sub recently transitioned from a different name, but considering one of the most prominent highlights on our sidebar is 'REFUTATIONS OF RACIST CLAIMS', I think you're being hasty in your judgement.

[–]EugeneNix -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

My favorite part is that black country that people want to immigrate to.

[–]Alacritous 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

How will they achieve their goals without brigading?

[–]DsagjiiggsScjjigsjsb[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

All meta subreddits brigade, it's inevitable. The mod team will ban those who are most likely brigading, and there's nothing better non-admins can do.

[–]DanglyW -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hi, I'm another moderator. We welcome people to come check it out!