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[–]lifestyledles enfants beurres [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'd like to point out that title is incorrect and there are a couple mistakes in the timeline here:

OP didn't resign, as OP of the thread about boogie is a different person than the person who posted about leaving ghazi

the post which boogie tweeted a screenshot of was the one we deleted, which was deleted within a couple minutes of its posting once one of us saw it, but some of his followers jumped into the sub and saw the corrected post OP made and went after that one

and the user who left ghazi didn't do it over the boogie post but a different post; we have discussed their concerns with them privately and have reached out to the person that made them feel the subreddit is no longer a safe place for them to participate.

[–]ghostgnomeONE MORE MOD REJECTED 25ポイント26ポイント  (6子コメント)

Ahh, boogie stirring up shit on ghazi, always a good time. I guess he won't be able to backpedal on this one though.

[–]The13thzodiacWhowouldwin: Drama or Unlimited Popcorn Bucket? [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

/u/uberwolf0 Is making the same mistake TB made when he had a reddit account. If I was him I'd stay off reddit for a few days until the FPH drama dies down (as it already is).

[–]shakypearsAnd then war broke out and everyone died. [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This really isn't something to make videos about, either, especially when you don't know all the details of the situation. Just let it go.

People being dicks to him aren't really helping the matter, either.

[–]raspberrykraken\[T]/ Doot Doot Praise it! \[T]/ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well the FPH drama was like an explosive volcano, like when Mount Saint Helens happened. Now we are just waiting for the popcorn to settle and the hot butter flows of lava to chill. God only knows when that will happen as internet celebrities go looking for trouble.

More smaller euphoric explosions of flavor for us. Just need to start adding those popcorn flavor things they sell at movie theatres/stores.

[–]Statoke [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

What did TB do?

[–]The13thzodiacWhowouldwin: Drama or Unlimited Popcorn Bucket? [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Type Totalbiscuit in the search bar, you'll find plenty. Luckily he's definitely mellowed out since then.

[–]Statoke [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

boogie stirring up shit on ghazi

Could you elaborate? I'm relatively new to reddit drama.

[–]toiracseGhost in the Machine 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

The twitterati just loves to crap on Ghazi. We're their scapegoat, usually for their own misbehavior.

Oh Caelrie, I can empathize.

[–]Outlulz [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I've heard Boogie is a pretty OK guy even if you disagree with his opinions. It looks that way from his comment, he engaged in a non-standoffish way and made some good points.

[–]AgeMarkusPopcorn is the opiate of the masses. [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He's posted in Ghazi a few times before, he's always seemed really chill.

[–]JonAceWhy is this popcorn yellow? 13ポイント14ポイント  (20子コメント)

Nothing screams "Pity me!" more than a "resignation".

[–]3_3219280948874 14ポイント15ポイント  (14子コメント)

The frustrating thing for me was the whole "if you have to ask why I'm not telling you" attitude. This even comes from one of our mods who thinks ghazi needs to be better towards trans folks and has yet to tell us why/how. Supposedly that is all being worked on behind the scenes. The cynical part of me thinks its all BS drama that the mods are trying to avoid.

[–]lifestyledles enfants beurres [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

there was indeed drama that had to be dealt with, but we are definitely working with the trans users that have volunteered to make sure any rules put forth are crafted by them and address everything they feel others need to be aware of or educated about.

[–]Stellar_Duck [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

They still haven't posted the much talked about follow up to that mess?

[–]lifestyledles enfants beurres [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

we've been in a private subreddit with the users in our subreddit who identify with the trans community to help make sure any rules put forth properly address any and all concerns they may have.

this hasn't moved as fast as some may want due to other issues that have come up, but we're hoping to have the rules deployed soon once said users have vetted everything.

[–]Stellar_Duck [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

Yes, well, I'm certainly not gonna comment on it or I'll get banned. That much was made very clear by one of your mods when the podcast was released.

[–]lifestyledles enfants beurres [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

wait, what podcast are you talking about?

[–]Stellar_Duck [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

The one with Wus friend or what she was shitting on Ghazi. Or it was an article. Fuck if I can remember. It was someone and Wu talking about how shit the community was and how it was all transphobic.

Edit: removed some stuff as frankly, I don't care to get in an argument about this. Waste of time.

[–]lifestyledles enfants beurres [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

ah, the isometric podcast.

yeah, that event was kind of a mess, and I wasn't able to address a lot of things until a couple/few days later because we had a flood here which required a lot of my time to drain and clean up. but, once I got back I tried to clear the air a bit because I wasn't exactly happy seeing how our users were being treated and more or less told to STFU.

as far as drafting and vetting rules, this was initiated 15 days ago when I opted for us to make a public announcement inviting our trans users to contact us mods so we could add them to a private sub where they could look at a draft of rules that one of our trans mods had created and add to it or vet it or change it to something they would be in agreement with.

before that, we setup a google doc so we could draft a better sidebar with clearer rules, and that probably took at least a week or so, and then a little extra for it to be put into the sidebar, coded, and adjusted where users found issues or mistakes.

but yeah, the event you're speaking of was a mess. I won't really comment further on that situation but I definitely agree with you that it didn't reflect well on our moderation team and I have no doubts people lost faith in our ability to properly run the sub.

[–]nuclearseraph [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I've never really seen any transphobia on ghazi, and when shitty stuff does get posted, people are usually quick to call it out.

Funny enough, Wu made a post the other day that included this (she was referring to KiA): "they can easily advocate against transgender rights without endangering specific people". There's a word for working against the rights of others: repression. Repression is a lot more dangerous and disgusting than being an asshole on the internet, so I find it pretty hilarious that the same person who made that comment thinks they should be leading the way in creating some grand policy to rein in the (mostly non-existant) transphobia in the sub.

Making rules to deal with transphobia should be easy. Don't misgender, don't deadname, don't bring up questions about transition unless someone is talking about that specifically, educate yourself through other channels first if you're curious. Basically, recognize trans people as human beings and members of their self-identified gender categories, and don't be a dick.

[–]Stellar_Duck [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

don't deadname

See, here we have an example. :)

I haven't the faintest idea what that means. So I may have done it! In a situation like that I'd love people to point it out to me so I can correct my behaviour. And now I'm off to google to find out what that means.

Edit: one google search later and I can at least say that I've never done that. The opposite in fact. I've gotten into quite some rows with people concerning Chealsea Manning over that topic.

[–]EmergencyChocolatehas a floral hem [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Whoa...if Ghazi is transphobic, god help the rest of us who are just trying not to be shitty out here...

[–]Stellar_Duck [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Let's say that opinions on the transphobicness were very divided.

Myself, I don't know, honestly. It never struck me as intentionally so but I'm sure some stuff will slip in out of ignorance. Which is why that podcast struck me as quite counter productive.

[–]EmergencyChocolatehas a floral hem [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I think it's a loaded topic, for the reason you just mentioned: ignorance. The conversation in most of the progressive and even center-left community (especially after the Jenner revelation) is like everyone's not-so-cool uncle trying to talk positively and be supportive about race relations and using terms like "colored" or "Afro-American". People mean well! But they just don't know what's ok yet. And I can understand how it must be hard for the trans community to wait for everyone to play catch-up, I guess. But some grace needs to be given to people who are really trying and attempting to learn stuff, I think.

[–]socialjusticeorc [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ghazi killer of all men and censor of video games here.

I thought the treatment of Boogie was pretty crap :( Yeah, his video was kinda dumb but people put dumb shit on the internet all the time. Nothing to be fussed about.

[–]holditsteady [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

It surprises me that GamerGhazi is still a thing. Hasn't all the GG drama gotten stale by now?

[–]sepalg [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah, they're kind of on the SRSSucks train to irrelevance now. It turns out that when you make a sub based on how much another sub sucks, you're kind of locked into a death spiral of ever-increasing hyperbole and TiA style [SANITY]-circlejerking.

[–]orangeslice54 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

What a lot of people said about SRS (in terms of overall attitude) seems to just be in Ghazi now. Did they migrate over or is there just a lot of crossover? Basically every thread involves some form of (gag) or (vomit) thrown into a comment. It's becoming easier to pick out who frequents what subs.

[–]socialjusticeorc [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's a lot of the same mindset, just that Ghazi tends to look elsewhere than reddit (mostly).

[–]Arrakis-to-Dune [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

There is a massive overlap of mods & users between SRS, SRD, Ghazi, SJmeta subs & AMR.

Its quite interesting seeing web of connections some of the mods have & the attitude of their subs.

[–]you_are_a_bad_person 5ポイント6ポイント  (62子コメント)

As dumb as gamergate is, Ghazi manages to one-up it.

Since gg has lost steam, ghazi has descended into a morass of sad, bitter people vociferously eating their own.

[–]SentientHAL [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think everyone is forgetting that Ghazi is still reddit just like /r/kia is reddit and that we are all reddit (/unintentionalbullshitdeepness). The same actions are there and the same methods just a slightly different set of beliefs.

[–]I_LIKE_YOU_ [スコア非表示]  (37子コメント)

Ghazi is pretty crazy, but they usually stay in their own bubble of wtf. GG are in denial about being anti-feminism crusaders against feminists (funny how the term has become so warped it barely has a meaning anymore). The sidebar says ethics and journalism, but the posts say fuck pao, long live fph.

[–]Boseph_Stalin [スコア非表示]  (36子コメント)

Ghazi is pretty crazy, but they usually stay in their own bubble of wtf.

unless it concerns the witcher or historical fantasy games, in which case they go brigade /r/badhistory or even SRD in order to justify their insane ramblings.

[–]DrAttorney [スコア非表示]  (14子コメント)

Ghazi used to be funny if anyone can believe that. And for those couple months where you couldn't escape GG invading every thread it seemed like the only place you could go to avoid that garbage or even make fun of it without getting your inbox killed or brigaded(because they banned pro-GG discussion, much to the hilarious chagrin of KiA). Then new people started showing up, and the mods started tone policing everyone and people started unironically calling themselves SJW's there. When they started falling for pc master race trolling them and calling them actual Nazis I gave up and haven't returned. Jeez in all that time I could have learned conversational french or built a model boat or something...

[–]Boseph_Stalin [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ghazi used to be funny if anyone can believe that.

If video gaming and social justice have anything in common it's that the angry white dudes that flock to it always manage to ruin it in the end so I could see that

[–]askinnydudelens flair [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yep, it was a fun place when things kicked off. Now it's just another generic social justice subreddit.

/r/BestOfOutrageCulture is a decent replacement.

[–]cluelessperson [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

tone policing everyone

in what way?

unironically calling themselves SJW's there

tbf i don't think anyone sees themselves as a "warrior", but that given that SJW is applied by anti-SJW outragebots to anything vaguely social justice related, i'm aware that by merely talking about social justice i get "SJW" lobbed at me so i tend to embrace it and say "hey. I'm an SJW. Let me talk to you, do you really believe all the straw SJW bullshit?" etc

[–]DrAttorney [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

you realize you're sea lioning right now, correct?

[–]cluelessperson [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

Sea lioning is repeated, intrustive questioning in bad faith. Given I only posted one question and a counter-argument and I'm not trying to be disingenuous, I'm pretty sure I'm not. But hey if you don't want to answer, that's fine, it's your right not to.

[–]DrAttorney [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

Sea lioning is repeated, intrustive questioning in bad faith.

Just because you only got one out before I called you out on it doesn't make it any less intrusive.

[–]cluelessperson [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

I'm sorry but that argument is completely ridiculous. You're on an internet forum. It's a completely reasonable expectation that someone would try to initiate a conversation - and if doing so with a modicum of respect, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. That's not intrusion, that's just how it works. The refusal to honor a rejection of that initiation is what makes it sealioning.

[–]DrAttorney [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

The refusal to honor a rejection of that initiation is what makes it sealioning.

I want you to repeat this to yourself before you go on reddit from now on and maybe you'll realize how this isn't helping your case.

[–]NotsomebeansArtisanal Pasta Chef [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

yeah i used to go there, but eventually it just got too weird for me and i stopped using it

not that surprised to see it in its current form now

[–]lifestyledles enfants beurres [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

if you see any brigading, please report it to the administrators.

[–]Urdnot_Vex [スコア非表示]  (19子コメント)

in which case they go brigade /r/badhistory

As a subscriber to all three, links please because I've never seen that.

[–]Boseph_Stalin [スコア非表示]  (14子コメント)

https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/2xy00f/whats_racist_about_telling_the_truth_medieval/

380 comments

no actual sources backing up their claim

nothing makes social justice look bad like the most misguided crusaders of our internet

[–]Urdnot_Vex [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

no actual sources backing up their claim

What claim was that? Also where is your evidence that Ghazi actually brigaded? Which subscribers voted/posted in that thread? In fact, it appears that the OP of that thread got heavily brigaded by people who disagreed with their post about The Witcher, and if you read the post, it isn't something people from Ghazi would likely downvote.

Also, Linking to a post isn't brigading, since you're on SRD, you should know that.

[–]Boseph_Stalin [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

What claim was that? Also where is your evidence that Ghazi actually brigaded? Which subscribers voted/posted in that thread? Linking to a post isn't brigading, since you're on SRD, you should know that.

The OP is a contributor on /r/GamerGhazi. This user is from /r/Gamerghazi. This other user as well. Etc etc

...I thought "that guy doesn't represent us" was a thing only Gamergoobers did. Hmm.

[–]Urdnot_Vex [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

So, someone who posts on one sub can't make a submission on another sub? I'm a subscriber to both subs as well, in fact I expect you'd see a considerable overlap in people who sub to Ghazi and the various "Bad" subs.

That's a fascinating interpretation of "brigade" I'm subbed to /r/badhistory /r/BadSocialScience /r/badscience, guess I can never post on any of them or I'll be accused of brigading them.

You're trying too hard.

[–]Boseph_Stalin [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

You're trying too hard.

I'm not sure if I'm supposed to take that as a compliment for a dude who just spent like 6 posts trying to damage control the idiots of /r/GamerGhazi

What's your stake in it dude like you said someone who posts on one sub can totally be a contributor on another sub so it's not your responsibility that those guys make /r/Gamerghazi look like morons, but it does make you look like a moron once you start the damage control.

[–]Urdnot_Vex [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Sorry I upset you for pointing out the flaws in your reasoning. I hope you don't cry.

What's your stake in it dude like you said someone who posts on one sub can totally be a contributor on another sub

Then where was this "brigade" you were talking about?

[–]GenocideSolutionFuhrer Pao's Master Plan [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

[–]SinghAkash101 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Ghazi is not nearly as bad as GG.

[–]lifeoftheta [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

It would suck if we had a Ghazi related SRD thread without this debate.

[–]zapatashoe [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

yeah I dont know about that, nothing can be sadder than people unironically obsessed with "ethics" in games journalism.

[–]cluelessperson [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Seriously? Like, just because one asshole decides to be completely dickish about Boogie? People engaged and talked to Boogie significantly more politely, and the mods made OP delete the shitty title. Ghazi isn't perfect but fuckssake it goes a lot further in trying to keep an all-round good climate than most subs, I'd say.

[–]MouseheartThese Nazi jokes are out of mein kampf-ort zone. [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Jeez, another public resignation. Seems to be a thing with Ghazi, doesn't it?

Reminds me of that drama when some sort of Twitter leftwing woman moaned about Ghazi and some of Ghazi's beloved internet-celebs fell in with her. I think the people in subs like Ghazi and KiA (yes, both of them, on different sides of the spectrum) and the associated people on Twitter really have some sort of circlejerk-competition-problem.

"We want very similar things, but you do things slightly differently, therefore you are lterally worse than [insert the other side of the spectrum]! Actually, literally worse than PaoHitler!"

[–]zapatashoe [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I dont get the equivalence, ghazi is sort of the SRD for KiA/GG with a more social justice focus. Plenty of stupid shit KiA says. Its more SJ oriented and while there has been internal conflict it hasnt been on the level of "ethics are boring veggies! we meed anti-sjw desert!" or that cringy neckbeard anime in real life movie or the "revolt" against the mods, or the trap debacle they participated in and the list goes on...

[–]ttumblrbots 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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[–]EmergencyChocolatehas a floral hem [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Oh god, I LOVE a good flounce post! Haven't seen one in a while as most people don't feel as personally connected to reddit as they do to smaller web communities...but back in a more BBS/livejournal era, flounce posts were the BEST drama.

people just feel so ATTACKED sometimes, you know?

edit: ooo, this one is a vagueflounce, too. That's a rare breed; usually people love to air all their grievances at once and score a dramanuke. But vagueflouncing is a subtle art, meant to render the user Garboesque and inscrutable, guaranteed to be a forum topic long after they have flounced to greener pastures.