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Sandy Hook: I'm a teacher and I wanted to have a discussion because things aren't adding up. (self.conspiracy)

missylizzy が 投稿

It's really hard to even do research on Sandy Hook.

I made a mistake. When I first heard of the tragedy, I was at school. Of course I didn't question it. Kids were killed and it just sounded awful.

A few months ago, though, I'm not sure but something hit me. None of it was making sense. As a teacher, if there was a school shooting like Sandy Hook, I know it would be complete chaos and blood would be everywhere.

I decided to search every post submitted on Reddit about Sandy Hook. Every single one. Guess what?

Almost none of the directed links worked anymore. Nearly all videos and articles were removed.

To me, that in itself is a conspiracy. Look up Sandy Hook in Reddit posts and search from the top to the bottom. Nothing works. Why would this key information be removed? Even links debunking Sandy Hook conspiracy theories don't work.

It's all unsettling. Then I attempted outside research and it was worthless. Google seems to be highly censored and I could not get any valid information. I used YouTube, too, but a lot of videos have been removed.

I just wanted to vent here. Please be gentle.

Edit: upvotes and downvotes like crazy. Please know I want discussion and just a place to talk. Already arguing with a shill or somebody with an obvious political agenda is frustrating (FortHouston below).

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[–]thedurban 15ポイント16ポイント  (5子コメント)

One of the most interesting places to start, to me, is the blood. Supposedly 26 people died in a couple of rooms in that building. To clean up the blood, you need to file a permit with the state health department, the EPA needs to be notified, and one of a handful of EPA-certified hazmat companies can do the clean-up. A bunch of people did FOIA requests and directly called both the EPA and the CT state health department. They also called every EPA-certified clean-up company in the surrounding states. There is no record of any blood clean-up or even a permit application. For the companies contacted - no one admitted to doing the clean-up, nor knew who did.

So - unless someone broke the law, you're telling me the dried blood of 26 victims putrefied on the floor of those rooms for 10 months before the building was demolished? That, in itself, would be a disgrace - and also a conspiracy.

[–]I_Kick_Puppies_Hard 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I do believe that the disgrace you spoke of is entirely possible and plausible... Though it sucks to believe that. I'm not saying Sandy Hook was or wasn't a real event or hoax it misreported.

[–]missylizzy[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's what gets me! Plus I just feel that parents would be absolutely hysterical. This post was downvoted immediately. That tells me a lot.

Something is really off about it.

[–]odpqbdpqbo [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

The parents weren't allowed to see their dead children either.

Also, there is an auto-downvote bot/group that targets this sub everyday. Every article in thee new queue gets down voted.

[–]missylizzy[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm not a parent, but could any parents speak about ths? I would want to see my child, even if dead. I know that this is obviously a horrible thing to think about.

[–]I_Kick_Puppies_Hard 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

Hey, I would recommend you to not use Google. It's the most used and widely available search engine, and in my opinion the most prone to "fuckery". It has its uses, but for something like that you may have better luck with duckduckgo.

The most widely recognized name regarding "alternative research" I believe is Wolfgang Halbig. If you look him up you should be able to find his material regarding alternative theories and probably counterpoints to his.

Another word of advice: don't take his, or any one else's, word for anything. Question everything, and when someone offers sources CHECK THEIR SOURCES. Without checking, you won't know if it's a legitimate source or if the link is even still valid. A lot of people everything at face value when a hyperlink is involved.

[–]missylizzy[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thanks. I have seen his name, but you're correct about google. I just can't believe how censored everything is. I mean, I can, but it saddens me.

[–]I_Kick_Puppies_Hard 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I also interpret the censorship of the results of Google as more evidence of their working hand-in-hand with the United States Government and its directives. It's also been reported that their executives have very very frequent(2-3x a week) meetnf with high level White House officials. They also have representatives present at the Bilderberg Group meeting.

Knowledge is power in a lot of facets, and they hold the keys to the largest collective wealth of knowledge in the history of humanity. They choose how the citizens of dozens of powerful countries get their knowledge, and it would be a necessary strategy for the survival of the government itself to suppress and promote news stories at will.

[–]lisabauer58 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Google introducted a search engine were popularity of the masses choices using certain key words dictated what the search engine of Google thought it should deliver as results.

So if someone put in something like A hard days night , then google would return the most popular choice other users selected as the most like information you would want as well. Which means they would put up the results of the Beatles as the top hit.

The search engines before Google changed the way we searched for information used a search criterion of counting how many times those words showed up in a websites content as well as the information inside the header of a website as key words (called meta tags) that the public does not see. The web pages that included the words most often was delivered as the top choices.

To get choices based on key words would mean you will needto use an older search engine. I believe that www.excite.com is still available to the public and (seems to me) is still operating as they use to. Your results may be different because of the differences in how the search engines function.

Does anyone else have a link to a different search engine that doesn't operate like Google?

[–]rurootin4pootin 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Due to suppression there really arent many good aswers on Sandy Hook, just a mountain of good questions and suspicious holes in the narrative.

Try Boston, there is firm photographic evidence for that being a psyop.

[–]missylizzy[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks. I haven't done much research on Boston yet.

I guess I was just evaluating or protocols for school shootings and everything at Sandy Hook just seemed very strange. All I have are questions and no answers.

[–]odpqbdpqbo [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

You can't post anything controversial in this sub without being attacked by shills. This sub is a known, popular target.

[–]missylizzy[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I know. I have a free morning and figured I'd have time to fight them.

[–]JoemeatballsSC2 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Everyone Must Check In

[–]Patfanz [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Alright can someone answer a few things for me? Assuming everything is a conspiracy, why would sandy hook happen? what benefit was there for whoever it was (besides who they say it was) to shoot up a school. Also the same questions thrown at the boston bombing. I cant figure it out but maybe im looking at it wrong, i see no possible benefit from these things. Can someone clearify why these are conspiracys?

[–]missylizzy[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

This is what doesn't make any sense to me either. Why? One person mentioned traumatic based control.

I'm not quite convinced about the gun control, but there was some legislation that passed in certain places about guns after Sandy Hook.

I want to know why, too, if it is a conspiracy.

[–]Patfanz [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Gun control makes no sense to me, With a large revenue coming in from selling guns and alot of gun manufacturers in the US, youd think theyd be roped into all the other businesses that are part of "conspircays" with trade agreements and what not. The only thing i can think of is that it was a test to see how population would react to gun control and to put minir laws in place for a bigger law to come. It appears to be a way to lower our defenses so we have no power to fight the government. But of course this is just my wild speculation, it is still unclear to me the exact reason. And if its for fear, then what for? Its need to be a much larger scare to rally people behind something. As for the boston bombing, i dont get it, i really dont. If it was to "increase hatred of the middle east, then it failed, cause theyre are still high tensions from 911 and now isis, they dont need the bostom bombing to induce hatred, so why? usually someone has come up with reasons like with 9/11 and well every other conspiracy, but why dont these? why is there no possible reasoning? I hadnt really thought of any of this til now when i saw your post and now im curious and ima try and do some research. But so far, with everything in this country, i might just move to finland to become a sheep herder and get away from it all. :P

[–]DronePuppet [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Fear, gun control and more power for "so called professional authorities" to do what they want based on cheap supposition.

[–]WhiskeyGoSlow [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Speculation is a lazy habit of conspiracy theorists. We can do it, but it usually removes our thinking further from hard evidence (or in SH, obvious lack of evidence).

[–]BadgerGecko [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Best link I found

http://www.sandyhookjustice.com/about-us.html

[–]missylizzy[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Thanks! You can find actual videos of the shooting of Columbine. Real live evidence.

When you ask for videos or evidence of Sandy Hook, people call you sick.

[–]missylizzy[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow downvoted sooo fast.

[–]DronePuppet [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

OP research "traumatic based control" and remember anything in the mainstream news is most likely conjured up to keep the human mind in a state of control.

Also there is a good documentary on the subject as well.

Research this title: We Need to Talk about Sandy Hook

[–]missylizzy[S] [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

Thanks. Fascinating. Do you have any thoughts about the purpose of disinformation?

[–]DronePuppet [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Simple, Mind / Thought Control. Keeping people on pins and needles with that "hint of fear" in the background that something evil might happen that does it.

I will say that once you start researching it, the rabbit hole is huge and long! You'll have to prepare yourself for that ride.

[–]missylizzy[S] [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Yeah, to be honest once I started I couldn't stop. That's why I spent a whole day searching Reddit. I should have recorded all of my "findings" but then I thought, what would it matter anyway? It's hard to not to fall into apathy when you feel out of control.

Where were the teachers in the videos?

When we even have minor crises at our schools parents are out of control, doing everything they can to get to their children.

Again, it's just all these little bits and pieces.

[–]WhiskeyGoSlow [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

...Where were the teachers. Where were the students besides a few pictures of ~10 students. Why were cops running at the wrong school? What was up with the men in the woods (they claimed to be distressed parents). Why is there no video footage of Adam despite recent security camera updates? Why weren't first responders allowed on the scene...it goes on and on. I agree with an earlier poster who said that Sandy Hook isn't as open and shut as Boston, because SH just has a lot of holes. With Boston, there is obvious fakery recorded on video.

[–]missylizzy[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Is there a link to the Boston incident? Guess what? I never questioned that either.

[–]WhiskeyGoSlow [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

One crazy thing about Boston bombing is the reported injury count in the hundreds. A quick look at the photos tells you that at the most ~10 people are lying on the ground.

http://deepinsidetherabbithole.com/The_Boston_Bombing_Hoax.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOpMYz7bjuI

There was also a post from an orthopedic surgeon (or maybe ER doc) on reddit not so long ago stating that she saw no victims in the ER that day from the Boston Bombing.

Look at the photos of the double amputee Jeff ___ being wheeled off the scene. That would never happen -- paramedics would never place a gravity-dependent injury in a wheelchair and not a stretcher.

[–]DronePuppet [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

See, lots of questions that get no one answers. They just feed people what they want them to see over and over. Its all calculated based on mind control studies.

Like Morpheus said: Free Your Mind

[–]effinmike12 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

I am not having any trouble with broken links. There is plenty of info to be had. Regarding clips, Youtube gave me a "warning" screen because of the subject matter, but that is about it.

sandy hook search results in this sub

[–]missylizzy[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

You searched through conspiracy. I searched through all. Obviously conspiracy will be a little better right?

[–]effinmike12 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't know about 'better', but you will probably have a hard time outside of /r/conspiracy. I imagine that other subs may find questions of authenticity to be offensive or in violation of sub rules. My suggestion is to start in /r/conspiracy and work your way out. I don't know how familiar you are with this sub, but we are typically not fans of Alex Jones. GL!

[–]missylizzy[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree. I just wanted to make a point that if Sandy Hook is the way it was reported that information about it should be free, easy, and consistent. The fact that I need to start here is interesting.