(cache) SplodeyDopeがRemoving harassing subredditsについて記入したコメント

Any subreddit that discusses other subreddits should not be allowed to exist on this website. This means /r/ShitRedditSays, /r/SRSSucks, /r/SubRedditDrama (aka SRSLite), /r/GamerGhazi, /r/ShitGhaziSays, and the like should simply not exist. /r/bestof seems to be better than the others only because it discusses other subreddits in a positive light.

The only purposes these subreddits serve is to attack other subreddits. /r/ShitRedditSays is easily the worst offender as it allows direct links to other subreddits (not even NP links) and frequently downvote brigades/dogpiles people for their opinions. Most of the time those opinions are not in the least bit inflammatory but are disingenuously perceived as sexist, racist, or otherwise bigoted because people there want something to get butthurt about. The fact that they have a rule saying "no brigading" means nothing because rules stated with a wink and a grin are not really rules at all.

So yeah, ban the subreddits dedicated to making fun of other subreddits. That's how you make reddit a less toxic place.

...But since the admins are monumental hypocrites, that won't ever happen, will it?

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Yeah, they just put themselves in a really tricky position. As a founder of a heavily moderated community, we found that in order to maintain the community's trust, any new rule had to be crystal clear and enforceable in such a manner that it left as little as possible to the individual moderator's personal judgment.

We will ban subreddits that allow their communities to use the subreddit as a platform to harass individuals when moderators don’t take action.

Well, how do you define harassment?

From reddit's blog post:

Systematic and/or continued actions to torment or demean someone in a way that would make a reasonable person conclude that reddit is not a safe platform to express their ideas or participate in the conversation, or fear for their safety or the safety of those around them.

I have seen users demean other users in almost every subreddit on this site. If moderators are now personally responsible for teasing, that is an incredibly slippery slope.

Now, one might think that the inclusion of "that would make a reasonable person conclude that reddit is not a safe platform to express their ideas" would help to mitigate against this, but what is safety? Given the subreddits that were banned as a result of this, the aforementioned "safety" clearly goes beyond physical safety and refers instead to being safe from personal attack.

You might say, "But /r/fatpeoplehate isn't just a troll! It's a whole group of bullies!" That is fair, but this rule says nothing about banning subreddits based on their stated intention. The criteria revolve around how a subreddit is allowed to be used. So what constitutes a subreddit being allowed to be used for harassment? One unbanned troll? Ten? Should /r/AdviceAnimals be banned if they come up with a racist new meme?

How many people and how much participation push user action into the realm of legitimate harassment?

I trust the intentions of the reddit administrators and understand that they want their website to be a space for constructive discussion, but this is way too vague to be applied in any reasonable fashion. The fallout from this is going to be bad.