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Removing harassing subreddits (self.announcements)

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Today we are announcing a change in community management on reddit. Our goal is to enable as many people as possible to have authentic conversations and share ideas and content on an open platform. We want as little involvement as possible in managing these interactions but will be involved when needed to protect privacy and free expression, and to prevent harassment.

It is not easy to balance these values, especially as the Internet evolves. We are learning and hopefully improving as we move forward. We want to be open about our involvement: We will ban subreddits that allow their communities to use the subreddit as a platform to harass individuals when moderators don’t take action. We’re banning behavior, not ideas.

Today we are removing five subreddits that break our reddit rules based on their harassment of individuals. If a subreddit has been banned for harassment, you will see that in the ban notice. The only banned subreddit with more than 5,000 subscribers is r/fatpeoplehate.

To report a subreddit for harassment, please email us at contact@reddit.com or send a modmail.

We are continuing to add to our team to manage community issues, and we are making incremental changes over time. We want to make sure that the changes are working as intended and that we are incorporating your feedback when possible. Ultimately, we hope to have less involvement, but right now, we know we need to do better and to do more.

While we do not always agree with the content and views expressed on the site, we do protect the right of people to express their views and encourage actual conversations according to the rules of reddit.

Thanks for working with us. Please keep the feedback coming.

– Jessica (/u/5days), Ellen (/u/ekjp), Alexis (/u/kn0thing) & the rest of team reddit

edit to include some faq's

The list of subreddits that were banned.

Harassment vs. brigading.

What about other subreddits?

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[–]Table_Corner 1290ポイント1291ポイント  (86子コメント)

So it appears that the reddit admins have now shadow banned all of the former FPH mods as well.

/u/The_Wizard_Of_Wang

/u/12_Years_A_Toucan

/u/SportyStrawberry

These are just some of the former mods that I could find.

[–]Thecandymaker 3431ポイント3432ポイント  (46子コメント)

So this is what happens after the button stops.

[–]RZgamer 1326ポイント1327ポイント  (44子コメント)

FYI, this is now the 11 12 7 4 5 13 20 9 7 4 6 20 9 4 12 7th most 9th most controversial post of all time (according to Reddit's algorithm).

Edit: God damn, just pick a spot and stay there

Edit 2: Am sleeping now, will update in the morning.

Edit 3: I am awake now, will update (Continuously, until it appears to stabilize)

[–]classic__schmosby 603ポイント604ポイント  (3子コメント)

11 12 7 4 5 13 20th most controversial post

It's controversial how controversial this post is.

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    [–]testtheid 787ポイント788ポイント  (65子コメント)

    Voat.co just got blown up. How long after Reddit's announcement did the voat servers get destroyed? Their IT people must have been like, "WTF just happened? What did Reddit do now?"

    [–]kristenjaymes 547ポイント548ポイント  (7子コメント)

    "What did reddit do now" would make a great 404 page.

    [–]le_f 67ポイント68ポイント  (6子コメント)

    It's run by a college student. I don't think they have IT people - unless you mean his server providers

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      [–]Raysharp 2499ポイント2500ポイント  (298子コメント)

      For everyone who is wondering, these are the banned subreddits.

      /r/fatpeoplehate(150k+)

      /r/hamplanethatred (3071)

      /r/transfags (149)

      /r/neofag (1239)

      /r/shitniggerssay (219)

      credit to /u/ekjp

      Edit: added fatpeoplehate. Thanks /u/The_White_Baron, I didn't think to originally. Good call.

      edit 2: I only posted this because at the time (about ten minutes after original post) they didn't have the link to the list on the post. Feel free to ignore as this is no longer relevant.

      edit 3: I should point out that the 150k+ number is a claim from another user. I took his word, but I didn't ever visit the sub myself and therefore have no reliable way of telling you the real number they had.

      edit 4: added fatpersonhate

      edit 5: removed fatpersonhate. It was already banned.

      edit 6: I'm no longer going to edit this comment with updates on the subsequent subreddit bans. Anyone who wants to raise awareness on more bans should feel free to comment on their own. Have a great day everyone!

      [–]oodni 800ポイント801ポイント  (107子コメント)

      Went to click on neofag to see what it was about. 404'd then doh'd. Ofcourse it wont work. Lol

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        [–]Tylenol_Creator 3803ポイント3804ポイント x2 (192子コメント)

        What you just did:

        http://i.imgur.com/ZQHN2gS.png

        Edit: First gold for a crappy drawing, thanks!

        [–]sickhippie 407ポイント408ポイント  (4子コメント)

        Someone on another thread likened it to getting rid of an anthill with a leaf blower.

        [–]icanhasreclaims 830ポイント831ポイント  (101子コメント)

        There's merit in keeping the masses of a bigoted community segregated in a way that allows open discussion. With this new decision, the backlash will be in the form of a vehement spillover into the subreddits that were once able to defend against trolling. Reddit cannot quantify how strong the retaliation issue will become and the man-hours needed to resolve those issues.

        I mentioned this in response to another comment on this thread, and your infographic paints the picture very well.

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          [–]henkile 1554ポイント1555ポイント  (84子コメント)

          What happend to this?

          "Reddit's general manager Erik Martin noted that 'having to stomach occasional troll reddits like /r/picsofdeadkids or morally questionable reddits like /r/jailbait are part of the price of free speech on a site like this,' and that it is not Reddit's place to censor its users"

          [–]dakta 732ポイント733ポイント  (38子コメント)

          Erik has moved on from Reddit.

          [–]standerj 201ポイント202ポイント  (3子コメント)

          "Erik is... Well, Erik isn't with us anymore. We had a few differences in... Philosophy. We don't like to talk about Erik."

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              [–]youareinthematrix 4653ポイント4654ポイント  (671子コメント)

              I predict this isn't going to go down well.

              [–]PM_ME_YOUR_MICROWAVE 2480ポイント2481ポイント  (36子コメント)

              As a Jets fan, I want /r/Patriots banned for harassing and assaulting my team 2 times a season for the last 10+ fucking years.

              [–]Formaldehyd3 466ポイント467ポイント  (9子コメント)

              Hey, on that note... Can we ban /r/losangeleskings?

              Their Stanley Cups are triggering all of us at /r/SanJoseSharks

              [–]LuckMaker 170ポイント171ポイント  (4子コメント)

              Meanwhile over half of the NHL subreddits and /r/hockey are triggering us at /r/Leafs with this thing called playoffs. I'm not sure what it is but it triggers us!

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                  [–]luciferoverlondon 988ポイント989ポイント  (68子コメント)

                  Ellen Pao needs to go have a little chat with Kevin Rose, and see how well doing shit like this worked out for Digg.

                  [–]WorknForTheWeekend 174ポイント175ポイント  (9子コメント)

                  I can picture her in her office "Yes, people are going to be upset, but where else are they going to find funny pictures on the internet?"

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                    [–]GoonerPete 2097ポイント2098ポイント  (105子コメント)

                    I think Notch hit it right on the head https://twitter.com/notch/status/608706518972788736

                    [–]TweetsInCommentsBot 1639ポイント1640ポイント  (49子コメント)

                    @notch

                    2015-06-10 18:45 UTC

                    I'm overweight and was frequently offended by FPH on Reddit, so I blocked it. It being banned is ridiculous.

                    This message was created by a bot

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                    [–]Kardest 989ポイント990ポイント  (47子コメント)

                    I was reminded of this quote.

                    There are two knobs on the radio! One of them turns the radio OFF, and the other one changes the station.

                    It's called freedom of choice, and it's one of the principles this country was founded upon. Look it up in the library, reverend, if you have any of them left when you've finished burning all the books.

                    -George Carlin

                    Censorship is never the right response to haters and idiots. It just makes them scream louder.

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                        [–]Ammoholic 389ポイント390ポイント  (14子コメント)

                        /r/skinnypeoplehate ?

                        I must be missing the premise of removing harassing subreddits.

                        [–]pickle-in-a-cup 1703ポイント1704ポイント  (30子コメント)

                        "to protect privacy and free expression"

                        ayyy lmao

                        [–]SilvanestitheErudite 5249ポイント5250ポイント x2 (1784子コメント)

                        Is there going to be transparency as to how subreddits are determined to be harrasing?

                        [–]80lbsdown 3050ポイント3051ポイント  (180子コメント)

                        There is a subreddit called /r/SlutJustice that just links to various /r/relationships posts and encourages brigading of users they decide are "slutty." I'm all for stopping harassment, but let's not pretend that /r/fatpeoplehate is the worst of reddit.

                        Edit: Here is a link to a thread where a woman attempts to defend herself after her post gets brigaded by people declaring her a slut.

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                          [–]wulkes 330ポイント331ポイント  (16子コメント)

                          I actually participated in a thread about Ellen Pao that was deleted yesterday. Everyone in the thread was saying "thread deleted in 5,4,3..." and I thought they were being dramatic.

                          Nope, the site is actively deleting and censoring reasonable conversation that relates to serious questions about the ethical and moral viability of their CEO.

                          Awful to see. I'm ready to leave.

                          [–]TotesMessenger 2363ポイント2364ポイント  (200子コメント)

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                          [–]shinydragonite 2082ポイント2083ポイント  (16子コメント)

                          Better call wifebot, you're gonna be working overtime tonight, Totes.

                          [–]Sento_Fernner 550ポイント551ポイント  (14子コメント)

                          That is the largest Totes post I've ever seen.

                          [–]justcool393 83ポイント84ポイント  (11子コメント)

                          I think I'm going to have to make it so it takes up less room if there are a lot of subreddits.

                          [–]Sento_Fernner 190ポイント191ポイント  (7子コメント)

                          Honestly, in this case, I enjoy it taking up a whole screen. Adds a bit of gravity to the situation.

                          As per normal use, I completely agree.

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                                [–]Georgy_K_Zhukov 884ポイント885ポイント  (29子コメント)

                                Are you ok there Totes? I hope they pay you overtime.

                                [–]TotesMessenger 1503ポイント1504ポイント  (8子コメント)

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                                [–]justcool393 420ポイント421ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                [TotesMessenger mod, speaking officially]

                                We do pay him overtime. Benefits are always included and we believe that bots rights are very important in this day and age. :D

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                                  [–]TotesMessenger 394ポイント395ポイント  (8子コメント)

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                                  [–]Apathie2 385ポイント386ポイント  (37子コメント)

                                  r/fatpeoplehate2 That didn't take long

                                  [–]zang227 456ポイント457ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                  a community for 1 year

                                  Yeah

                                  Edit for clarification: I'm simply pointing out that the subreddit was already created, and that it didn't just pop up.

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                                    [–]Dillstroyer 141ポイント142ポイント  (22子コメント)

                                    Jesus Christ, this is going down in Reddit history.

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                                      [–]Wafflenotblue 671ポイント672ポイント  (47子コメント)

                                      might as well ban /r/pcmasterrace because they harass console users peasants

                                      [–]sumoisnotfat18 2288ポイント2289ポイント  (68子コメント)

                                      /r/skinnypeoplehate isn't banned. Talk about double standards.

                                      [–]eazyekiel 470ポイント471ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                      Guess us skinny folk should just feel privileged and take shaming as a compliment. /s

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                                        [–]TheSilence13 1392ポイント1393ポイント  (76子コメント)

                                        7k+ comments with a 0 score. THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING

                                        [–]LDRMS 186ポイント187ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                        Where up to almost 17,000 comments and the post is still at 0..

                                        We're not happy

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                                          [–]Osairis 428ポイント429ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                          Congrats Overlord Pao, your actions just advertised a subreddit to your entire user base that they may not have been aware of AND you've hydra'd the hell out of it... what did you think would happen? FPH could have stayed its own little corner of Reddit... now r/ALL is effectively FPH...

                                          I, for one, welcome our Fat People Hating overlords...

                                          [–]Tackbracka 216ポイント217ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                          If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.

                                          Noam Chomsky

                                          [–]SemiNation 2181ポイント2182ポイント x2 (41子コメント)

                                          Please keep the feedback coming

                                          Why should we, you clearly have your own agenda and don't care about all the feedback you're being given so far.

                                          [–]TheCyberGlitch 658ポイント659ポイント x2 (20子コメント)

                                          Seriously, since this "safe space" crap started, wildly upvoted posts have anticipated the banning of /r/fatpeoplehate and the free pass to SRS, all of them very critical of this form of censorship and the dark path it'll lead Reddit down to.

                                          Even many people who despise fatpeoplehate don't want it censored like this (I'm no big fan of the sub myself). Here's what people have been STRONGLY SUGGESTING for months:

                                          • a clear objective definition of brigading

                                          • a clear objective definition of harassment

                                          • a fair application of the rules across all subreddits

                                          • more reserved use of shadowbans, which are better suited for spam bots

                                          • more transparency, with especially with banning and deleting of comments, users, and apparently subreddits

                                          • no fucking censorship

                                          But hey, those just seem to be what the majority of Reddit users want. It's clear the current heads of Reddit don't give a damn about what we say.

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                                            [–]newtothelyte 1780ポイント1781ポイント  (141子コメント)

                                            Silly admins. Don't you understand your userbase?

                                            You really think you're going to stop those people from having their sub? Now you've turned them against you and you've pissed them off. Now they will stop at nothing to have their message heard. There are now over 10 subs dedicated to fat people hate

                                            [–]duffman489585 697ポイント698ポイント  (68子コメント)

                                            The idea is to monetize reddit into an unoffensive cash cow for native advertisers. It's been a steady march this direction. Ideals vs. big money is a hard fucking fight.

                                            [–]Icemasta 319ポイント320ポイント  (26子コメント)

                                            It's just the usual cycle. It was Digg, Digg was cool, then Digg 3.0 came and wasn't that great, but people stayed and it survived. Then Digg 4.0, which was targeted at advertising/marketing, and boom went the dynamite and everyone and their dogs left for Reddit. I was never a huge fan of digg, so I was on reddit mostly, and let's just say the influx changed things a lot, for better and worse.

                                            So right now we're on the Reddit 3.0 phase, and when Reddit 4.0 hit, which should be within the next year at the pace of changes we're getting, reddit will be wrapped and ready for sale, and we'll all be jumping ship AGAIN. Every time a company things they know better about how their userbase should interact, you get people riled up, but we've be educated to be docile, so we support until we get pissed off. We're nearing that tipping edge of multiple social news site popping up to compete with Reddit and taking good chunks of the population.

                                            https://www.google.ca/trends/explore#q=reddit%20alternative

                                            Google trend for those interested.

                                            [–]sebas156 134ポイント135ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                            I decided to turn adblock back on today for reddit

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                                                [–]serialstitcher 2810ポイント2811ポイント  (103子コメント)

                                                There is a zero percent chance you will ban /r/ShitRedditSays and they are infamous for vote brigading, nasty PMs and various other forms of harassment, up to and including getting people fired from their jobs for perceived transgressions against various minorities.

                                                Fuck this policy. I was not a huge fan of fatpeoplehate, but I had never heard a single thing about them extending their reach outside of their own subreddit to harass people

                                                What does "safe space" even mean? Please define that term so the community can have a real discussion about it instead of using it as a bullshit vague coverall for anything that hurts peoples feelings.

                                                Does it mean that if somebody accidentally clicks on a "mean" subreddit their fee fees are so triggered that they must remain on the page and suffer?

                                                [–]SomeNiceButtfucking 52ポイント53ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                I've noticed since the blog post about transparency that every time a new policy comes out, they also add something new to the "we aren't being transparent" pile.

                                                [–]Ungreat[🍰] 613ポイント614ポイント  (18子コメント)

                                                What does "safe space" even mean?

                                                Probably cutting out the weird and nasty to make the site palatable to advertisers. Problem is the weird and nasty is a large part of this site.

                                                [–]James1o1o 36ポイント37ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                There is a zero percent chance you will ban /r/ShitRedditSays[1] and they are infamous for vote brigading

                                                I don't understand how the utter fuck that place exists.

                                                http://www.reddit.com/rules/

                                                It's one of the only damn rules reddit has.

                                                "Don't ask for votes or engage in vote manipulation."

                                                [–]restatic 386ポイント387ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                Safe space means a safe space for advertising, not people.

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                                                  [–]Jesus_Faction 1939ポイント1940ポイント  (47子コメント)

                                                  THIS SLOPE IS GETTING SLIPPERY BOYS

                                                  [–]TinyEarl 1734ポイント1735ポイント  (63子コメント)

                                                  > we're banning behavior

                                                  > shitredditsays not banned

                                                  hmmmmmmmmm

                                                  edit: this comment tracking FPH-related bans was just removed by the mods, and the user that posted it has been soft-banned from this sub (all their comments in this sub get spam filtered, but they don't get a ban notification).

                                                  [–]atred 250ポイント251ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                  behavior we don't like

                                                  [–]ArtGamer 176ポイント177ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  definitely not biased

                                                  [–]sovos_thoughtpan 31ポイント32ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                  Soft bans? Shadow bans? What kind of website does this shit? It's like some twisted version of banning where you could have let someone go but instead you stabbed a needle of mushroom juice into their skull so they live in some kind of illusion. Knowing people are addicted to upvotes and have accounts with histories and subscriptions and shit, Reddit has basically designed a system of fear to try and hinder and/or punish people for speaking out of line.

                                                  Why has this been allowed for so long? All it takes is one bad leader to ruin everything and, well, here we are.

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                                                    [–]Rickykrudd 817ポイント818ポイント  (56子コメント)

                                                    /r/BeatingTrannies, /r/RapingWomen, /r/PhilosophyOfRape, /r/StruggleFucking, /r/AbusePorn2, /r/AntiPOZi, /r/SlutJustice, /r/CoonTown, /r/CuteFemaleCorpses, /r/SexWithDogs, /r/SexWithHorses, /r/CandidFashionPolice, /r/GreatApes, /r/NecroPorn, /r/DeepThroatTears, /r/Painal,

                                                    All of these subreddits exist at this very moment, and you ban fph "for our safety". Hilarious.

                                                    Edit: I am in no way in favor of banning these, or any, subreddits. I am just surprised that FPH was the one to get the axe. It was the only resistance to the fat acceptance movement, and now it's gone.

                                                    [–]rhycochet 629ポイント630ポイント  (41子コメント)

                                                    oh cool, you just banned /r/fatpersonhate too!
                                                    i thought you were all up on that horse claiming to ban for "behavior" and NOT "ideas."
                                                    /r/fatpersonhate is SO NEW that there's no way for any "behavior" to even qualify as bannable offense. you banned it because it carries the same IDEA as /r/fatpeoplehate. please take the lies and shove it up a fold. or two.

                                                    [–]jovifcp 118ポイント119ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                    Holy shit, did they just ban an idea? This is beyond words...

                                                    [–]rhycochet 60ポイント61ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                    basically, yes. but if they cared to respond, which they wont, they would spew some ridiculous drivel about how certain ideas (by their choice, of course) could be construed as behavior.
                                                    because we all know people get fat by thinking about pizzas, not gorging themselves with pizzas.

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                                                      [–]misinformed66 164ポイント165ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                      How is SRS, a subreddit found to be the most toxic subreddit by an outside source still here?

                                                      SRS routinely brigades people, and harasses users and yet here it is. Still around.

                                                      [–]contentBat 25ポイント26ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      Some of the stuff they did was unreal. I recall one guy posting how he thought some female picture was hot (in lurid fashion). They proceeded to find his gamer tag from another sub reddit. Using that they traced him to his house and place of work, then reported him in work for harassing women. That was just one person, they had done this to numerous people.

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                                                        [–]xXNuclearTacoXx 1897ポイント1898ポイント x4 (79子コメント)

                                                        Turn on your adblock and stop buying gold.

                                                        Edit: I have never recieved gold.. never wanted gold. Really?

                                                        Edit2: Gold is triggering me, stop before I report to admins for harassment.

                                                        [–]duffman489585 364ポイント365ポイント  (25子コメント)

                                                        Or move to voat whenever they get new servers to handle the reddit ship jump of death.

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                                                          [–]DrZack 2555ポイント2556ポイント x4 (54子コメント)

                                                          "Front page of the internet" campaigning against internet censorship while simultaneously banning subreddits that offend you. SHAME ON YOU. If you find a subreddit offensive, don't go on it. I didn't like the subreddit, but that's no reason to ban it.

                                                          Thought about buying gold/turning off adblock to support reddit but no more. I vote with my $$ and reddit does not get my vote. Honestly, fuck you mods

                                                          EDIT: And don't buy me fucking gold and make sure to turn on adblock. I can only hope that the number of people turning on adblock because of this post loses reddit more money than the gold I got today. Good riddance

                                                          [–]Anjz 369ポイント370ポイント  (20子コメント)

                                                          Yishan Wong, the site's former CEO, has stated that "We stand for free speech. This means we are not going to ban distasteful subreddits. We will not ban legal content even if we find it odious or if we personally condemn it."

                                                          What the fuck? This goes against what Reddit is about.

                                                          If you start banning subreddits that you 'hate', then it will start being corporate and eventually corporations will say that they are being harassed and will be able to take down subreddits and ban users.

                                                          What's next, are we gonna get banned for saying Ellen Pao is a bad CEO for going against her words? We may as well take a one way ticket to North Korea.

                                                          This is the worst move Reddit has done, I'm terribly disappointed.

                                                          As much as I resent people for having so much hate, this is a major impediment of free speech.

                                                          [–]ExplodingJesus 2462ポイント2463ポイント  (107子コメント)

                                                          This is a hole with no bottom. Admins will now be fielding non-stop requests from person "x" because sub "y" offended them somehow and they will try to spin it as harassment.

                                                          Example: every person ITT asking what about this or that sub.

                                                          [–]caribou16 2163ポイント2164ポイント x3 (83子コメント)

                                                          Just canceled my reoccurring gold membership.

                                                          [–]XT3015 807ポイント808ポイント  (55子コメント)

                                                          I like how you got gold for that.

                                                          (But seriously, I think Reddit has run it's course)

                                                          edit: xfiles theme song

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                                                            [–]LuminiferousPen 2256ポイント2257ポイント  (66子コメント)

                                                            All hail glorious leader Ellen Pao!

                                                            [–]ttifiblog 3197ポイント3198ポイント  (126子コメント)

                                                            It was just a matter of time, wasn't it? I can't say I liked any of the 5 banned subs, but seems like freedom of expression shouldn't be banned.

                                                            What's next? /r/news gets banned for pointing out how the CEO is blackmailing her old company to pay for her husband's ponzi scheme debts?

                                                            edit: Please don't buy gold. In fact, no one should buy gold until Pao is gone.

                                                            https://www.change.org/p/ellen-k-pao-step-down-as-ceo-of-reddit-inc

                                                            [–]rubsomebacononitnow 264ポイント265ポイント  (32子コメント)

                                                            Turns out violentacrez was right... once they started banning they'd find out they liked it and do it more.

                                                            [–]TheGhostofWoodyAllen 125ポイント126ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                            God how that flaming pile of shit was right. At the time I thought it was a bad sign. All I could think was how, despite his abhorrent interests, he was a well-regarded moderator who helped mod some of the largest and most trafficked subreddits while championing the free speech spirit of early reddit. He was the embodiment of that whole "Well, I don't agree with them but I respect their right to express themselves so long as laws are not violated." And now here we are today. Interesting stuff.

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                                                              [–]Baked_Otter 874ポイント875ポイント  (29子コメント)

                                                              You have been made moderator of /u/FuckEllenPao

                                                              [–]ZackaryC 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              Stories get deleted and users shadowbanned for discussing it pretty frequently. Reddit just forgets and moves on.

                                                              ALSO: STOP BUYING GOLD TO REWARD USERS FOR CALLING REDDIT OUT, IT GOES INTO ELLEN PAOS THIEVING POCKETS

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                                                                [–]AustNerevar 1627ポイント1628ポイント  (98子コメント)

                                                                /r/neofag was a non-brigading, non-harassment sub that focused on the anti-GamerGate site Neogaf. It had absolutely no reason to be banned, yet garbage like shitredditsays and subredditdrama remain.

                                                                I'm getting so sick of this biased, safe-space bullshit. I have no sympathy for the users of /r/fatpeoplehate, but I don't believe in censorship. You guys aren't even trying to hide it now...if you go to the FPH subreddit, it says it's been removed to "keep people safe". I can assure you that no subreddit has ever made me feel unsafe, even when I've had people pestering me inbox messages I didn't want.

                                                                What happened to the Reddit that supported the blacklisting of SOPA? I guess you guys sold out.

                                                                www.voat.co

                                                                [–]testtheid 148ポイント149ポイント  (33子コメント)

                                                                I think voat.co is getting hugged to death right now. Today is the best thing that ever happened to them.

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                                                                  [–]artscii 957ポイント958ポイント  (25子コメント)

                                                                  Soooo... /r/Fitness will probably be next?

                                                                  [–]lamabaronvonawesome 449ポイント450ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                  /r/cats has to go, I am from /r/dogs, also anything with peanut-butter in it. It kills kids.

                                                                  [–]eazyekiel 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  As someone who was once a child, /r/childfree greatly offends me. Screw those privileged anti-children fucks.

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                                                                    [–]1sttimepleasebgentle 1779ポイント1780ポイント  (38子コメント)

                                                                    This is the beginning of the end of Reddit, ladies and gentlemen.

                                                                    [–]RTE2FM 2788ポイント2789ポイント x2 (207子コメント)

                                                                    www.voat.co

                                                                    [–]remzem 693ポイント694ポイント  (95子コメント)

                                                                    Looks like their traffic increased so much after this announcement that their site is down hah

                                                                    [–]6ThirtyFeb7th2036 850ポイント851ポイント  (85子コメント)

                                                                    Exactly what happened to Reddit after Digg changed their business model to "utter shit".

                                                                    [–]shows7 256ポイント257ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                    Voat is Digg 3 confirmed.

                                                                    [–]well_golly 674ポイント675ポイント  (62子コメント)

                                                                    Damn. Ellen Pao will be remembered for the collapse of Reddit, and she won't even score any points for originality because it's all been done before.

                                                                    Which brings me to the real question: Will Ellen Pao even be remembered at all?

                                                                    [–][deleted] 125ポイント126ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                    Don't worry about that, she'll be immortalized in the public record after her bankruptcy hearing

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                                                                          [–]yeahburyme 752ポイント753ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                                                          /r/redditalternatives for more. Voat is by far the most popular.

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                                                                            [–]elerium2 241ポイント242ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                            So why isn't /r/ShitRedditSays/ banned? They are the most vile cesspool of hatred on reddit.

                                                                            [–]h0bb1tm1ndtr1x 162ポイント163ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                            So Ellen Pao is projecting her view onto Reddit now that she failed in court? Awesome...

                                                                            [–]jwshyy 1829ポイント1830ポイント  (33子コメント)

                                                                            By the same vein, /r/ShitRedditSays should be banned too

                                                                            [–]Ichigowins 911ポイント912ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                            Do you really think Ellen Pao would ruin the sub of the only people who support her?

                                                                            [–]peenoid 133ポイント134ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                            In the future Reddit will be SRSers and no one else, and all the SquiRrelS will chatter away and send their scoldings off into the nether, holding but never verbalizing the thought that it was actually better in the beforetime.

                                                                            [–]jwshyy 231ポイント232ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                            Good point. The bias is very real.

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                                                                                [–]Rebootkid 2824ポイント2825ポイント  (162子コメント)

                                                                                As much as I dislike the content in FPH, I dislike censorship MUCH more.

                                                                                FPH was supposedly banned for violating the reddit rule of "Keeping everyone safe." That rule says, "You agree to not intentionally jeopardize the health and safety of others or yourself."

                                                                                You're going to need to explain exactly how they were violating that rule, because I saw none of it happening.

                                                                                The people who were discussed are jeopardizing their own health and safety.

                                                                                This is censorship plain and simple.

                                                                                [–]upboatsallaround 946ポイント947ポイント  (21子コメント)

                                                                                "You agree to not intentionally jeopardize the health and safety of others or yourself."

                                                                                Sounds like they should ban /r/HAES or /r/thinspo if that's their true goal.

                                                                                [–]Theoreticalwriter 137ポイント138ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                or /r/immobile

                                                                                [–]DoctorThackery 116ポイント117ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                lol
                                                                                "On this subreddit there is no such thing as 'too big'. The bigger the better, no matter how big that is.
                                                                                There is, however, such a thing as too small. 325lbs (technical minimum weight for SSBBW/BHM) is an acceptable minimum, but we are keeping the 450lb desired minimum in place..."

                                                                                [–]evictor 73ポイント74ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                As a 150lb person, this is extremely offensive and unsafe for me. I am going to request this gets banned immediately.

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                                                                                    [–]tequila13 28ポイント29ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                    And ban the rest of the subreddits on this site, and make it so only admins can post and comment. You can never be too safe.

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                                                                                        [–]ultraRightWing 695ポイント696ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                                                        Guess it is time for everyone to move to voat.co.

                                                                                        [–]Cricket620 118ポイント119ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                        ITT: Ellen Pao tries to justify selective banishment of subreddits without releasing criteria on why subreddits are being banned. It does not go well.

                                                                                        [–]webgovernor 282ポイント283ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                        Today we are removing five subreddits that break our reddit rules based on their harassment of individuals.

                                                                                        Translation: We are removing subreddits that harm advertising interests. This is why these subs seem arbitrarily chosen.

                                                                                        [–]njbrooks 1803ポイント1804ポイント  (88子コメント)

                                                                                        This is a horrible and not very well though out idea, here's why.

                                                                                        Use /r/fatpeoplehate as example. Room full of people, door is locked, door says "Room to discuss distaste for obese people". Obviously nobody who is obese would enter that room, right? Everyone in this room loves to rail and make fun of fat people. This is good, because everyone who is fat on the outside of the room can't hear or see what they're doing. You guys over at reddit HQ say "hm, maybe we shouldn't keep all those people in the same room, talking about negative things". You say "ok!" and unlock the door and tell everyone "sorry you can't hang out in this room anymore, but you can go to any of the other rooms"

                                                                                        People from /r/fatpeoplehate room proceed to harass and project distaste for obese people in other rooms and in an uncontrolled manner since there is no place to talk about this without repercussion. In the end nobody is happy.

                                                                                        My point is, people have opinions that will offend others, but we can control the chaos by letting these people discuss those offensive opinions in a controlled environment.

                                                                                        Edit: Okay, the door isn't "locked". I get the hatred spread even with the subreddit open. But I do not think removing the subreddit will solve anything. This goes for all the banned subreddits, not just FPH

                                                                                        Thx for gold

                                                                                        [–]Cashews4U 460ポイント461ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                                        Literally one of the first rules of fatpeoplehate is "no linking to other subreddits." That sub keeps to its own and discourages and actively prevents brigading and any hint of attacking those from outside that sub. What stays in FPH stays in FPH. Total bullshit. But by all means lets keep the subs that are sexist, racist, downright disgusting and disturbing, ignorant, and so on. Nice job shitting the bed, admins.

                                                                                        Edit: if a child does something wrong, do you punish the child or the parents? Its not FPH's fault that some of its people went rogue and decided to do things outside the guidelines.

                                                                                        [–]digitalpizza 3065ポイント3066ポイント x2 (163子コメント)

                                                                                        How is /r/fatpeoplehate any different from /r/cringe or /r/CringeAnarchy/? They ridicule people just as much. Should ban those too if you're gonna ban fatpeoplehate

                                                                                        [–]Sheslion 946ポイント947ポイント  (35子コメント)

                                                                                        r/trashy is pretty much fatpeoplehate with poor people and rednecks

                                                                                        [–]CryEagle 1213ポイント1214ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                                                                        FPH took blocking personal information much more seriously than /r/cringe

                                                                                        [–]headmelt 97ポイント98ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                        They even had a bot that automatically removed links to other parts of Reddit to avoid brigading.

                                                                                        [–]FilmMakingShitlord 139ポイント140ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                        Because they knew they were going to get banned for the stupidest thing, so they did everything they could to try to prevent it.

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                                                                                            [–]voltism 599ポイント600ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                            Ban /r/announcements plz, you hurt my precious feelings

                                                                                            [–]thezoomaster 686ポイント687ポイント  (22子コメント)

                                                                                            For a website that's boasts about internet freedom and privacy so often, I'm fucking disgusted at this thinly veiled, blatant censorship. What the fuck? What happened to freedom of speech? You don't have to agree with /r/fatpeoplehate, but no one was shoving it down your throats. I'm fucking disappointed in you, admins.

                                                                                            [–]Davethe3rd 158ポイント159ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                            No, the previous owner of reddit was a free-speech advocate.

                                                                                            The new owners are not in the slightest.

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                                                                                              [–]AssuredlyAThrowAway 266ポイント267ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                              Lol.

                                                                                              You had to sticky this thread because it got downvoted below the threshold. No one will ever see this announcement on the default front page or /r/all.

                                                                                              Yo /u/kn0thing, do you really know nothing about how this site works?

                                                                                              [–]BlueLinchpin 1994ポイント1995ポイント  (21子コメント)

                                                                                              You guys are a joke.

                                                                                              [–]really_cool_name 2143ポイント2144ポイント  (67子コメント)

                                                                                              Today we are removing five subreddits that break our reddit rules based on their harassment of individuals.

                                                                                              Doesn't that mean you have to ban r/shitredditsays ?

                                                                                              [–]itsjh 124ポイント125ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                              We’re banning behavior, not ideas.

                                                                                              What a shockingly convenient excuse to leave /r/cutefemalecorpses et al open!

                                                                                              [–]dfsac85 504ポイント505ポイント  (52子コメント)

                                                                                              I am glad you guys didn't delete /r/fuckolly . Because seriously, fuck that kid.

                                                                                              [–]frankenmine 3674ポイント3675ポイント  (232子コメント)

                                                                                              /r/ShitRedditSays has brigaded and harassed subreddits for as long as it's existed.

                                                                                              Its slogan is Bring Reddit Down, for fuck's sake.

                                                                                              Why haven't you banned it yet?

                                                                                              Edit: Jesus Fucking Christ, how retarded do you have to be to give money to man-hating fucking reddit to express your appreciation to me.

                                                                                              [–]altshiftM 581ポイント582ポイント  (18子コメント)

                                                                                              Arent some former admins now moderators there? If so, then that would explain a few things.

                                                                                              [–]akatherder 301ポイント302ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                                                                              Top post right now implies they had a hand in bombing FPH so of course they won't be banned.

                                                                                              "[META] The cabal scores a major victory as FatPeopleHate and other harassing subs are banned!"

                                                                                              http://np.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/39bqyc/meta_the_cabal_scores_a_major_victory_as/

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                                                                                                  [–]beassured 152ポイント153ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                                  Enabling adblock again. It is my passive aggressive way of saying fuck you Reddit.

                                                                                                  [–]closetshitlordette 828ポイント829ポイント  (31子コメント)

                                                                                                  I was a subscriber to FPH. Say what you want about me, but here's the deal:

                                                                                                  • Unlike SRS's wink-nudge, totally insincere "no-brigade" policy, FPH's was legit. It's rules included a prohibition on linking to other parts of reddit (and such posts were automatically removed); including any personal information including person, username, or subreddit names in posts; and banning known brigaders. It regularly removed posts that broke any of these rules, and the mods routinely put up reminders not to brigade. It kept to itself.

                                                                                                  • This decision is not only arbitrary but unfounded. FPH blatantly did not do the things it is being accused of (harassment) while subs that actively and openly do those things remain. This leaves me and--looking through the comments--much of the rest of the community feeling as if you've just slapped us in the face with capricious censorship with blatantly insincere justifications, when the real agenda was political in nature.

                                                                                                  • And speaking of the real agenda, since it was political, what about all the other distasteful subs that not only harass but represent far more odious subject matter than FPH? Good job, mods: you've opened that door.

                                                                                                  Conclusion: this is bullshit and you know it.

                                                                                                  [–]dragon_nipples 171ポイント172ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                                  Why did you ban /r/fatpersonhate it was just created... are you preemptively banning subs for harassment LOL.

                                                                                                  [–]Katynrosja 869ポイント870ポイント  (19子コメント)

                                                                                                  Why isn't /r/ShitRedditSays banned?

                                                                                                  [–]1010101010101010101 247ポイント248ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                                  Slowly but surely reddit is turning into a SJW haven with the increasing censorship.

                                                                                                  but right now, we know we need to do better and to do more.

                                                                                                  Firing Ellen Pao would be a great start.

                                                                                                  [–]evancam 289ポイント290ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                                                  /u/ekjp - if the Reddit community raises the money you need to pay your husbands' legal settlements resulting from his fraudulent financial activities, will you resign and leave us alone?

                                                                                                  Edit: I did actually go to college and take at least one English/writing class. Edit 2: I'm leaving it, messing up 'took' in this context makes me laugh.

                                                                                                  [–]flossdaily 4648ポイント4649ポイント x4 (325子コメント)

                                                                                                  This was an incredibly bad business decision for the following reason:

                                                                                                  When you were not banning any subreddits, you could make the legal claim that you were an open, public forum, and that you were not liable for the user generated content on the site.

                                                                                                  Now, you've taken the step of actively censoring content. Therefore it can argued that ANY significant subreddit that you haven't banned is operating with your knowledge, approval, and cooperation.

                                                                                                  So you shut down a subreddit that hates on fat people, but you left up the overtly racist subreddits that made national headlines several months ago?

                                                                                                  Mashable, Gawker, Salon, Dailykos, The Independent, etc... are all major publications that over a span of months have called out reddit for allowing racist subreddits to thrive. Their arguments were all moot until today.

                                                                                                  This policy would have been a huge legal misstep even if handled appropriately. But this sloppy execution makes the responsible administrators look embarrassingly ignorant or incompetent at best, and overtly racist at worst.

                                                                                                  [–]cynoclast 1429ポイント1430ポイント  (71子コメント)

                                                                                                  This was an incredibly stupid business decision for the following reason:

                                                                                                  Well, she has a history of those:

                                                                                                  “We come up with an offer that we think is fair,” Pao said. “If you want more equity, we’ll let you swap a little bit of your cash salary for equity, but we aren’t going to reward people who are better negotiators with more compensation.”

                                                                                                  [–]TLATER 401ポイント402ポイント  (26子コメント)

                                                                                                  Wait... She's trying to promote gender equality by stating that women are inherently worse at arguing, and should be treated as such?

                                                                                                  Well, let's fire all women in high positions then, they can't do their job. How should a female CEO be able to handle negotiations with other companies when she can't argue?

                                                                                                  [–]ufopu55y 43ポイント44ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                  How should a female CEO be able to handle negotiations with other companies when she can't argue?

                                                                                                  Blame it on patriarchy

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                                                                                                    [–]tbk 630ポイント631ポイント  (18子コメント)

                                                                                                    Well that's a good way to keep anyone with experience from working at your company. So instead of training her staff to not discriminate based on gender she's just banning an incredibly common practice that ensures experienced prospective employees feel valued and respected.

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                                                                                                        [–]nixonrichard 3320ポイント3321ポイント  (211子コメント)

                                                                                                        Does Mitt Romney count as an individual? Because if you're going to go down this dark path, you have a LOT of subreddits to ban.

                                                                                                        Mitt Romney got harassed worse than anyone I've ever seen on Reddit, far worse than any fat person being harassed by /r/fatpeoplehate (which they didn't actually do).

                                                                                                        What you're doing is setting a precedent which cannot possibly be enforced except by the caprice of Admins . . . and I think that's EXACTLY what you want.

                                                                                                        If the subreddit was "/r/WBC_Hate" there's no way you would have banned it. You're making a choice that you care more about fat people as a group than members of the WBC (or any other group that is widely hated) and by Administrators making a personal choice as to what is supported and what is not, you're doing far more risk to Reddit than you could possibly remove by banning /r/fatpeoplehate.

                                                                                                        I hope you realize what you're doing. I don't think you do.

                                                                                                        [–]KnightKrawler 765ポイント766ポイント  (86子コメント)

                                                                                                        FPH got banned because it kept hitting the front page, is my assumption.

                                                                                                        [–]imclone 1009ポイント1010ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                                                                                        It's almost like a lot of the reddit userbase liked the content

                                                                                                        [–]MuricanPie 46ポイント47ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                        Im fat. I found their content more hilarious than 90% of the stuff that goes into /r/funny. Im guessing a decent chunk of FPH is actually overweight themselves.

                                                                                                        This whole thing is stupid. FPH had beyond strict brigading rules, banning anyone who even thinks of trying, when there are times that other subs have formed massive brigades against governments and politicians, posting information, contact links, email addresses, sites that will automatically email them for you. Theres even SRS, that's sole purpose is brigading against specific users.

                                                                                                        Im not sure if this whole debacle is a single person's bad idea, or a large group's drunk decision, but its one of the worst things they've tried to enact.

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                                                                                                          [–]taws34 1164ポイント1165ポイント  (51子コメント)

                                                                                                          Funny, though, how the up and down vote buttons work... It was like more people agreed with the content than disagreed with it..

                                                                                                          Weird.

                                                                                                          [–]Vilmond 155ポイント156ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                                          How upvotes/downvotes work is actually a rather interesting topic.

                                                                                                          The reason subs like circlejerk, fph, politics, etc keep getting to the front page isn't because lots of people agree/disagree with the content. Instead its about time/early votes. Basically just a handful of early upvotes or downvotes will send a post spiraling into success of crashing into nothingness.

                                                                                                          This is why reddit vote bots and alternate accounts work so well. The first 5 upvotes count for more than the next 20+ downvotes that come a short time later. Not because upvotes are worth more or less, but because of the timing which gives early votes more sway/meaning.

                                                                                                          Then this system of giving earlier votes more sway is tied in with general psych which will have people simply follow the herd. This means those first few votes kicking it off leads to a giant inflation of votes that grow on eachother causing more votes.

                                                                                                          The end result is that it would take a rather organized group downvoting content to get it off the front few pages of r/all. Especially if they don't end up seeing it until hours after it was posted by then any downvote to it is more or less powerless thanks to the time weighting system in place.

                                                                                                          So things like r/circlejerk and similar echochamber subreddits are "very powerful" are making there voice heard on r/all. FPH was no different it had arguably the most tightly controlled user base of any subreddit that required sub'ing to post and all sorts of things along with a verification setup and so on. One of the main rules was "no dissent" this led to the generally snowbally voting setup mentioned above and having FPH content consistently hitting the front page.

                                                                                                          This is why subs like leagueoflegends, politics, etc tend not to hit the front page as often. Because there user base while large will disagree. They will go "oh its about X team, fuck them" and you will get immediate downvotes. "Oh it looks good for X political party, fuck them!" and boom early downvotes ahoy! By having a subreddit that by nature encourages more than one viewpoint you are less likely to snowball onto the front page, that doesn't mean its impossible (far from it) just less likely.

                                                                                                          Hopefully you learned something from this, maybed you don't give a shit and thats fine too. But the simple TLDR is that not all upvotes/downvotes are weighed equally and the setup gives "echo chambers" more power.

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                                                                                                              [–]AmericanPsychonaut 1031ポイント1032ポイント  (29子コメント)

                                                                                                              You hit the nail on the head. This is totally arbitrary and now admins have to ban subreddits that agree with the reddit community's views or they lose users. One problem, the community is so large and diverse that there is no consensus on what should stay or go. Every subreddit they deem is engaging in 'harassment' loses them a percentage of users.

                                                                                                              In a less PC way of saying this, I think they're total pussies for doing this and are bending over to external pressure from advertisers. Limp dick admins.

                                                                                                              [–]MrTwoJobs 78ポイント79ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                              I think this makes it easier for them to stop any Ellen Pao related subreddits in the future.

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                                                                                                                [–]deadfallpro 163ポイント164ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                                                                                This is all about some two-faced bullshit. They elect Chairman Pao and the whole site goes to crap. What a joke.

                                                                                                                [–]muhtriggurs 3175ポイント3176ポイント  (92子コメント)

                                                                                                                Go fuck yourself Pao.

                                                                                                                I've never seen a sub with a mod team more deeply dedicated to containing content to within the sub, preventing brigading and removing identifying information.

                                                                                                                SRS pays it lip service, served up with a side dish of tee hee we put that rule on the sidebar so we're covered.

                                                                                                                Ban SRS and coontown or your action today is seen as exactly what it is: fuck all to do with harassment and pandering to a specific group.

                                                                                                                I ain't holdin' my breath.

                                                                                                                Edit: please don't gild me again. These fuckers at Reddit don't deserve one more fucking red cent. Take that cash and give it to a homeless person, a charity, or someone in need, k? :)

                                                                                                                [–]austin101123 188ポイント189ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                                                                Was fatpeoplehate invading other places, or was it contained?

                                                                                                                It seems as though /r/greatapes still exists.

                                                                                                                What made fatpeoplehate considered harassing vs. greatapes? What is the qualification for being considered harassing? I hope for more transparency on this.

                                                                                                                [–]ninjapro 948ポイント949ポイント x2 (33子コメント)

                                                                                                                Woah. /r/fatpeoplehate (FPH) was actually banned. This seems like a crazy knee-jerk reaction.

                                                                                                                While FPH may have been relatively circlejerky and superficially vicious, it was a subreddit where people would go expressly to vent. Very rarely would personal information be included or anyone targeted and when that does happen, generally the mods were fantastic at shooing off the post. (as a side note: the mods on FPH were some of the most active and fair mods that I had seen in a subreddit that large). FPH certainly seems far too vicious at first glance, but their bark is far, far worse than their bite.

                                                                                                                Larger subreddits, I'll use /r/atheism as an example, have had far more targeted threads and nobody really bats an eye at that. At first glance, the top thread in /r/atheism is about a couple, who are named and pictured in the linked article, threatening to divorce if gay marriage is passed.

                                                                                                                This is a direct, identifying piece of information. Yet, nobody's calling witchhunting, though when someone inevidently does, it's generally defended because "/r/athesim is a place where atheists can vent about the religious they run into every day."

                                                                                                                FPH, which rarely ever posted personal information, should not be considered more harassing than specific subs which are borderline controversial. /r/funny isn't accused of harassing when there's a joke about Kayne West or Kim Kardashian; /r/pcmasterrace isn't considered harassment towards console gamers; and /r/ShitRedditSays literally targets users' comments in an attempt to brigade them. So why is FPH so specifically vilified?

                                                                                                                TLDR: /r/fatpeoplehate is not the the only or worst harassers on the internet or even Reddit. This targeting does not seem justified.

                                                                                                                [–]2muffins 197ポイント198ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                                                                                The cancer is terminal. I give the site 1 year to live.

                                                                                                                [–]icantbelieveiclicked 451ポイント452ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                                                                im fat... and the only thing i can think of is fuck you.. shit people are entitled to their opinion and if you dont like fatpeoplehate then dont fucking go there..

                                                                                                                fat people hate i totally give you credit for getting me back to the gym after 4 years and about 20 uneaten cookies

                                                                                                                [–]admiralsfan 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                This will obviously be buried, but if this continues, this will be how Reddit dies. Many of us were around to see Digg die in a similar way, they directly sold out to advertisers and we all came here.

                                                                                                                We came here because it was a platform for free speech. It's only a matter of time until a new platform for free speech arises and the exodus will begin.

                                                                                                                [–]Emazinng 4849ポイント4850ポイント x7 (469子コメント)

                                                                                                                Yishan Wong, the site's former CEO, has stated that "We stand for free speech. This means we are not going to ban distasteful subreddits. We will not ban legal content even if we find it odious or if we personally condemn it."

                                                                                                                So much for that

                                                                                                                [–]beetnemesis 245ポイント246ポイント  (19子コメント)

                                                                                                                This seems kind of silly. By all means, ban any users who are harassing, shut down any specific posts that are encouraging doxxing, brigading, or whatever. But if they want to bitch about overweight people in their walled off area, who cares?

                                                                                                                [–]pm_me_things_you_lov 778ポイント779ポイント  (75子コメント)

                                                                                                                List of subreddits on the chopping block:

                                                                                                                /r/fatpeoplehate,

                                                                                                                /r/hamplanethatred,

                                                                                                                /r/transfags,

                                                                                                                /r/neofag,

                                                                                                                /r/shitniggerssay

                                                                                                                What about /r/coontown though? It's just straight up racism on /new all day long.

                                                                                                                [–]KingOCarrotFlowers 216ポイント217ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                                                If you're so concerned with preventing harassment that you're banning subreddits, you're either going to need to be seriously transparent with the rules ("these activities are okay" vs "these activities are not") or you're going to have to recognize that this is just going to end up as a popularity contest.

                                                                                                                We've established that /r/fatpeoplehate is wrong--what if I made a subreddit that filled the exact same function, but against white people? Thin people? The LGBT community? Straight people?

                                                                                                                What about /r/tumblrinaction, which is essentially hater hate?

                                                                                                                Or /r/facepalm, which is "people on my facebook feed who are acting stupid" hate?

                                                                                                                You have indicated that you're not okay with harassing subreddits, but you have failed to provide even the most vague definition of a harassing subreddit.

                                                                                                                [–]CrackheadControl 4264ポイント4265ポイント  (1512子コメント)

                                                                                                                Why is /r/fatpeoplehate banned, but /r/coontown get to exist? That's bullshit.

                                                                                                                [–]tichondrius 2431ポイント2432ポイント  (168子コメント)

                                                                                                                Because making fun of fat people is worse than racism, I guess.

                                                                                                                [–]FrankFeTched 1359ポイント1360ポイント  (37子コメント)

                                                                                                                Well I mean it makes sense because those stupid black people that choose their race are just not hardworking nor motivated enough to change it for the better.

                                                                                                                Some people are just born fat, how are they supposed to help it?

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                                                                                                                    [–]nsto 2915ポイント2916ポイント  (1781子コメント)

                                                                                                                    Did /r/fatpeoplehate actually harass people outside of the subreddit?

                                                                                                                    [–]Stalked_Like_Corn 3820ポイント3821ポイント x2 (233子コメント)

                                                                                                                    As a fat person who absolutely detests /r/fatpeoplehate to the core. This is bullshit. I've rarely seen them mentioned out in the wild so to speak and they kept it in their subreddit. The way I avoided being targeted by their subreddit was I stayed the fuck out if which is the whole point of the unsubscribe button. To NOT see things I don't want to see.

                                                                                                                    This is nothing more than just systematic reduction on edgy subreddits yet again. What i'm shocked about is that it wasn't because of bad media attention like jailbait, creepshots, and thefappening. I hate that subreddit but I stayed the fuck out of it. THat's the POINT of Reddit.

                                                                                                                    What's funny more is that creepshots is STILL back and NOTHING has been done to them to take it down because, you don't fucking care. Plain and simple, you don't fucking care. I was upset when you took down jailbait and creepshots though I didn't go into them. The fappening I never went into but I didn't like that being taken down either. Now this? Keep on Reddit admins. Keep on keeping on because You can ask Digg and Co. what happens when you push a userbase too far.

                                                                                                                    Meanwhile /r/shitredditsays keeps chugging along despite openly FLOUNTING* the rules of vote briggading. They bite their thumbs at you sir. Yet you continue to let it go on. Why?

                                                                                                                    Edit* Fixed typo. Thanks /u/rocketman0739!

                                                                                                                    [–]stolivodka_ 1339ポイント1340ポイント  (18子コメント)

                                                                                                                    Meanwhile /r/shitredditsays keeps chugging along

                                                                                                                    Probably because all of the admins are subscribers.

                                                                                                                    [–]ExplodingJesus 204ポイント205ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                    They bite their thumbs at you sir.

                                                                                                                    This is like the first thing in this thread to not make me mad haha

                                                                                                                    [–]n1b0t 125ポイント126ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                                                                                                    yup, now they've banned the subreddit...which contained all of the hatred. Released a rabid dog into the wild, GJ admins.

                                                                                                                    [–]Flowers_for_Algernop 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                    I guess there aren't enough people left who remember what happened when they shuttered /r/PCMasterRace. One of their most popular subreddits, /r/gaming, was all but shut down with shitposts for a few days.

                                                                                                                    People will fight back any way they can; especially if they feel they've been unfairly singled out. Regular Reddit users have nothing if not free time.

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