Imgur is deleting /r/FatPeopleHate images that hits its frontpage. News reaches /r/Undelete and people start arguing about the origin vendetta, extremism, and free speech.

CptNasty · 1日前

You obviously had low self esteem and you also obviously care a lot about what other people think of you.

"Let me write a 409 word essay on how much I don't care what you think about me."

pandas795 · 1日前

FPH put imgur's staff on the sidebar.

They are really upset by this

Thai_Hammer · 1日前

And now with Undeleted forming its powers with FPH we have the full metamorphosis.....The Social Outrage Warrior. ^{^{^{^It}}} ^{^{^{^is}}} ^{^{^{^complete!!}}}

Werner__Herzog · 1日前

The CEO of imgur has responded. TL;DR imgur takes down images that were published by the uploader, reach their front page and get reported by user for breaking their TOS.

edit:np

Prodigy-II · 1日前

There is such a huge degree of difference between "not supporting hedonism, gluttony, and laziness" and what actually goes on in that sub. I don't support any of those things either. But I think it's an extraordinarily shitty thing to do to, for example, grab a photo of someone who wanted to share a sewing project she's proud of on a sewing subreddit and make it the sidebar at FPH so the poor woman can be ridiculed into oblivion. ...hedonism, gluttony, and laziness pale in comparison to whatever adjectives might motivate someone to do that.

Easily the best comment in that thread.

75000_Tokkul · 1日前

They are going to start spamming imgur I bet to "protest". Then imgur can use the system already in place that shows what subreddit an image is posted to remove the image automatically.

ghostgnome · 1日前

Yeah a lot of people have been saying FPH will be reddits downfall. I'm on the fence seeing as they weathered the fappening pretty good, but FPH (a) has the potential to get negative press attention, (b) pisses off a very large amount of reddit's population, especially since it's fostering a shitty attitude that's seeping over into the rest of reddit, and (c) is obviously causing tension with the site that reddit relies on to keep it's content flowing. Could be something brewing.

That's because reddit is full of fatties who cry, "but mah fee fees!"

"Let's have a sensible debate about the state of reddit's approach to content moderation"

"Fuck that noise, fattie!"

You tried, /r/undelete.

sleep_hero · 1日前

Actually, I visited the sub every single day for motivation since December 1st and have lost 60 lbs so far. Seeing people like me on there and reading the reasonable criticism of the obese is very helpful to some people.

TIL "reasonable criticism of the obese" includes the phrase "omg I wish this disgusting piece of shit hamplanet would just die already!!!!! lol"

DoomBread · 1日前

Now the subreddit has been banned.

Kyldus · 1日前

If only they had a safe space to post all the links they want without worrying about being removed/censored, wouldn't that be great?

Right?!

...

^{^{^#hugbox}}

SeducerOfTheInnocent · 1日前

The words "Censor", "Censored" and "Censorship" are used 36 times in that comment section. "Free Speech" 12 times.

None of those words are used correctly once.

However reddit likes to stylize itself as some sort of free speech platform.

Didn't the CEO explicitly say it wasn't one of those?

beanfiddler · 1日前

I like how everyone immediately jumps to the idea of free speech and political correctness when it's far more likely that they're just taking down images that are stolen from Facebook and Tumblr that promote witch hunts. They did the same for the fappening too, since the images were stolen and used without their creators' permission. FPH's content, just like the fappening, is basically pictures of people used without their permission. No shit they're going to take it down. This isn't fucking rocket science.

ucstruct · 1日前

FPH only exists because of HAES and FA propaganda.

I feel like the word propaganda has lost its meaning. It now means anything that you don't like and don't have enough education to distinguish from historical precedent. "I just learned about 1984 in Sophmore English. This now means that anyone that my whole life is full of it, you can't tell me what to do mom!"

I personally remember a week recently where nearly every day there was a new buzzfeed article about "body positivity,"

The horror. For all the talk about people whining about FPH, this is taking hurt feelings to a new level.

That_Hobo_in_The_Tub · 1日前

Dafuq? OP, you post to fph, seemingly unironically. Why have you posted this here then?

Your comments there are fucking horrible, by the way, you're no better than any of them.

dirtyrogue · 1日前

Man Imgur, created to serve images to Reddit, is pretty impressive compared to Reddit. Banning the celeb leaks, now FPH frontpagers, turning a profit (granted significantly different costs are involved), has decent company created mobile apps, Reddit should look to them for help turning this around.

Benevolent_Hydra · 1日前

Holy Hell I just checked out the sub to see their reactions and they literally have the imgur employees pictures on their sidebar calling them all fatties (even the cute lil dog). People in that sub really need to take a step back and calm down.

AirPhforce · 1日前

I like how Imgur has to police reddit, because it ~~can't~~ has zero interest in policing itself.

Isn't this when reddit opted to kill creepshots? When Imgur started doing the same?

ummmdude · 1日前

FPH threads are some of the meanest threads on this site.

allonsyyy · 1日前

"Don't come to FPH if you don't want to see our garbage... But we're going to complain about HAES tumblrs because we're incapable of not going there."

It's like raaaain, on your wedding day...

Xdeser2 · 1日前

no fucking shit a major site deletes hate content that shows up to everyone.

no one wants to be associated with that vitriol.

anumati · 1日前

I'm curious (but not enough to actually do my own damn googling) if Imgur also deletes other hate stuff.

Chlorophilia · 1日前

I can't stand these people who use every opportunity to cry censorship. The risk of government mass-scale censorship is a very real and serious problem, yet these people are completely trivialising that by getting into a hissy-fit when a privately owned website decides that it doesn't want content from a group of people dedicated to hate-speech on their front page. This is not an attack on "free-speech", it's the owners of a website trying to stay respectable in spite of some very questionable user activity. If anything, it's admirable that reddit even allows that sub to exist, I have complete sympathy for imgur.

junkspot91 · 1日前

FPH is the political analogue of the strong anti-racist statements that rose to prominence in the ashes of Nazism and the strong atheist surge after the colossal failure of the religious right.

Someone said this. And they believe it.

BlackCaaaaat · 1日前

I've been waiting for the FPH vs Imgur drama to end up here. Too lazy to submit it myself. The amount of butthurt emanating from FPH over this is fucking hilarious and oh so buttery.

EmergencyChocolate · 1日前

Imgur is deleting /r/FatPeopleHate images that hits its frontpage.

oh noes

TheIdesOfLurch · 1日前

Hypothetical question, just out of sheer curiosity (and the desire for a swift FPH demise): What would happen if Imgur decide to simply not host any FPH uploads? Could they even do that?

kiowa789 · 1日前

It's been tagged "fat drama"

Almost in tears from laughter.

techtechvpi · 1日前

It astounds me the lengths people go to defend their right to be assholes to other people.

tlh053 · 1日前

I feel like the concept of free speech is lost on people.

The idea behind free speech is that nobody has the right impede your right to express yourself, not that they have to help you do it.

Imgur is not a public asset nor is it a right. It is owned by a person or a company and if that person or those people decide that they don't want to host your content, that isn't a violation of free speech...That's exactly how free speech is supposed to work.
Other people come together and decide that they're not going to support your shitty opinions is freedom of speech in action.

Imgur removing content they disagree with from a website they own is them expressing their freedom of speech, not impeding on yours.

__the_operator · 1日前

So, it's time for me to reveal myself. I'm responsible for all of this. I'm using a throwaway because I'll surely be doxxed if I reveal my main account.

Imgur has several content policies in their TOS. One of them is this:

Don't upload gore, obscenity, advertising, solicitations, "hate speech" (i.e. demeaning race, gender, age, religious or sexual orientation, etc.), or material that is threatening, harassing, defamatory, or that encourages illegality.

However, imgur doesn't actively check new uploads for TOS violations. Instead, they rely on reports. TOS violations are promptly removed when people report them, but they stand if nobody says anything. The reason most images that violate the TOS aren't removed is because nobody bothers to report them. Nobody other than me, that is.

Yes, imgur has a report button. Most people don't know it exists, but it's real, and it only takes one report to take down an image.

I started this when an anti-trans subreddit began targeting one of the communities I'm a member of. I saw a hateful comic drawn by a user named ELS_BrigadeWarning (who, two shadowbans later, now goes by CharlesJavelin). Just for shits and giggles, I reported it, not seriously expecting Imgur would answer my report.

Well, Imgur removed it, and ELS threw a fit. So I went into his post history and reported a bunch of other hate speech images he posted, just to see his reaction. He reacted, all right. So I began reporting every hateful image posted to the anti-trans sub. Soon, the whole sub was banned, but it was quickly recreated, and I kept on reporting. By the way, gg Charles. I've enjoyed dueling with you, and it was a lot of fun, even though you don't know who I am. You're my worthy opponent.

Soon, I decided to expand to other subs. Since most of the anti-trans sub's population consisted of CoonTown regulars, I began reporting a large amount of hate speech posted on CoonTown. Right after that, the sub exploded into butthurt. People began advertising pomf and posting sticky threads saying "don't use Imgur" and calling out Alan Schaaf's Judaism. All because of me. So I kept doing it. Every few days, I'd log in and report a swath of hate speech. Every time I'd report a bunch of stuff, I'd see a sticky on CT the next day saying "don't use Imgur".

I began expanding to other Chimpire subs. niggerspics and GasTheKikes were my next targets. Reports, reports, and more reports were sent to Imgur.

After that, I decided to expand to hate subs outside the Chimpire. So, last night, I hit up FatPeopleHate. I noticed that half the posts in FatPeopleHate were friends-only social media posts that were shared with the general public in violation of the privacy restrictions set by the poster, and the other half were creepshots taken surreptitiously by people without the subject's consent for the sole purpose of harassing the subject online. Both should fall under the definition of "harassment", which Imgur's TOS explicitly prohibits. Such descriptions were submitted to Imgur as my reasons for reporting the images. As always, Imgur actually responds to reports.

Of course, FatPeopleHate blew a gasket. They started flinging feces, advocating DDoS attacks against imgur, and began targeting imgur staff for harassment with shooped pictures. And they had no idea it was just one person reporting their shit the whole time.

I've been talking on IRC about franchising my operations, about recruiting other people to report hateful images posted to hate subs. This isn't going to end with me. Nah, I'm going global. Imgur just isn't a place to post hate speech anymore.

I'm the Operator, and everything is all according to keikaku (keikaku means plan).

See ya in the funny papers!

Felinomancy · 1日前

. . . . . I remember when "free speech" means fighting for the right to express opinions that the State is trying to censor. Remember samizdat, the underground newsletter published in the former Soviet Union?

Since when has this morphed to "the right to force private companies to help me hate fat people"?

Zagden · 1日前

How has the belief that removing something off of a privately owned website is infringing free speech survived so long?

ApexTyrant · 1日前

Update to this post, apparently FPH has created their own version of imgur now. They call it "slimgur" and its exactly as cringeworthy as you would expect.


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