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Blue Pill ExampleSuicidal lonely guy is frustrated by women, reaches out for help. R/AskMen decides the REAL problem is that he's a shitlord misogynist! (self.TheRedPill)

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Good morning, TRP. Open your notebooks, today we are going to learn a very important lesson: never trust women or bluepilled men to give meaningful support for anything. They have been so indoctrinated by years of feminist culture that they can think of literally nothing else. They are robots. If they detect that you're not in line with feminism, they will put aside any empathy for your problems and attack you instead.

Which is what happened to this guy on AskMen. If you read his OP and comments, he is starting to wake up to reality and realize that women have made him miserable.

I don't want to be anything. All those terrible experiences have left me fucked up in the head. I can never trust women. I will never get married or have children.

Guess what his comment score is at. That's right, -20. And while AskMen has long been known to be comprised of 50% women adn 50% card-carrying betas, the responses to his politically incorrect posts were pretty remarkably vitriolic. According to a proud white knight who rode in to slay this horrible OP beast:

Your problem is seeing it as the fault of "women" rather than as the fault of those who caused the problems. You're generalizing about women based on what some women have done.

+47

Step one: stop calling us females.

+15. Yes, that's clearly the problem here. Not that OP has been constantly put down by women since high school, not that OP feels alone and has nobody to turn to - no, the problem is that he calls women "females".

If you knew what women say and think about ladies men you wouldn't want to be one.

Yeah, I'm sure women just hate playas and ladies' men. That's why these guys are slaying pussy every weekend at the club. Wait...

Because women don't have a shared consciousnesses. If every woman you meet smells like shit, you need to check under your shoe.

+47. Alternatively, if every woman you meet smells like shit, maybe that's because... every woman you meet smells like shit. Sometimes it is that simple.

Anyway. Short but simple lesson here. Women and bluepilled men cannot empathize with your issues, even if you are a suicidal man who desperately needs help. They will scold you instead for not accepting the feminist party line that all women are special snowflakes and wonderful creatures. The girls behave this way intrinsically, the guys do so because they're on a short leash and they hope that by helping kick down their fellow brothers, they might one day get some pussy. It's a sad cycle.

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[–]NAmember81 79ポイント80ポイント  (59子コメント)

I was watching a crappy podcast yesterday with two really hot girls on and this guy gets on with them and asks for advice on things he can do to have more luck with women.

The advice that both of the chicks were spouting as gospel was a straight up one way ticket to being a used and abused beta cuck orbiter that's "like a brother" to all the girls you desire to date.

Women's advice is almost always shitty like that regarding dating. Is it because they get off using orbiter guys and are unconscious of the fact they fuck guys nearly the exact opposite of what they say all guys should be like?

[–]1aguy01 89ポイント90ポイント  (24子コメント)

It's because when they give that advice they are imagining a certain guy, who they really want to be sweet to them - he's a famous athlete over 6' tall with 6 pack abs, 8 figures income, an 8 inch dick, and a huge string of women he pumped and dumped that he never cared about until he met her.

[–]Movonnow 38ポイント39ポイント  (20子コメント)

Yeah, they imagine the perfect alpha and then their wildest fantaisy is to gain power over him and to break him. What they describe is them succeeding in that.

[–]gestalts 38ポイント39ポイント  (19子コメント)

This is the plotline of every bored housewife romantic fiction. Pride and Prejudice, Twilight, and 50 Shades of Grey come to mind.

[–]Movonnow 21ポイント22ポイント  (14子コメント)

This is what all women will try to do to every single one of us.

[–]nemaxofredpill 11ポイント12ポイント  (12子コメント)

A woman just wants to be able to break a man's will. Her dream is like a music video I saw once....the singer literally had buff studs in leather bow over and hold each others arms shoulder to shoulder just so she could walk on them like a side walk of buff men. That is what women dream of.

[–]Syriz_ 17ポイント18ポイント  (6子コメント)

Related. Just yesterday I was in the library doing some work, a female friend was sitting next to me. Now this girl is someone I have been working on, I am still learning so it is taking me time to close her. Anyways, I mention to her that "I am feeling tired.. maybe I should skip gym today" and immediately her response was "yes, stay here with me". As soon as I heard it, I came back to reality and said "unh would love to, but gym is important". Promptly left after 5 - 10 minutes.

[–]Darkone06 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

Should have played it, maybe we can find another exercise activity that can be more relaxful.

;)

[–]nemaxofredpill 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

Nah...to obvious of wanting an outcome. Very needy. I would have just looked at her up and down with focus on the ass and tits and just said "nah I'd rather hit the gym". You have to make sure to let her see you checking her out and deciding that she isn't good enough. This will pull her down off the pedestal and most likely get her in the mode to qualify herself. Plus, it shows that you know you have a choice but don't give a fuck about women when it comes to yourself. And outcome independence. Women's only asset is sex and if you are a man who acts like you don't value it, then a woman's power is nothing and she doesn't like that shit.

[–]vakerr 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Nah...to obvious of wanting an outcome. Very needy.

Absolutely not. It's actually the perfect line. Just have to deliver it with the proper cocky attitude.

[–]Movonnow 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

And men are the psycopaths ones.

Right.

It's so hard to look at this little piece of angel and try to imagine that she dreams of that. Of course, it's just a fake image of herself that she sends out but still..

[–]nemaxofredpill 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

We are all psycopaths when it comes to it. Men and women just do it differently. Men have evolved to be physically stronger. So to break will, he breaks arms and forces someone to serve him. Women evolved less physically so they compensated mentally. They break will through manipulation and make the person unknowing want to serve them.

Great example of a master of breaking will is how what's his face made "Reek" in Game of Thrones. Not only did he break his body but he broke his mind as well. But now a true expert, a woman, mainly the Stark daughter is flipping Reeks mind to get him to serve her. God I love GOT.

[–]Heizenbrg 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Every Madonna video you see.

[–]nemaxofredpill 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I think that was the one. haha good looking out.

[–]GREF_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

A woman just wants to be able to break a man's will.

Yeah and once she does that she's no longer attracted to him because he's broken. She's now ruined her 'perfect' man. This is what's so fucked up about women is their tendencies are self defeating. That would be like a man dating a pretty girl and doing everything he can to make her ugly, only to become unattracted to her and dump her.

[–]fittitthroway 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://i.imgur.com/fAANVQ5.gif

[–]vakerr 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because all males are exactly like that. (there are some other invisible creatures around, but who cares about those)

[–]Aiadon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Doesn't matter, even if he's like that, they will still get bored of him if he acts like that. Nobody is to blame for this though, this is nature and we evolved this way for good reasons. I believe many societies and many people tried to fight this nature of things and none succeeded so why not just do what works.

[–]Washedupoaf 64ポイント65ポイント  (4子コメント)

That's why you ask a fisherman how to catch a fish, and not the fish itself. A fish will tell you the best way to catch it is to come by the fishing hole every day and throw food in, and eventually (read: never) it will let you catch it. A fisherman will tell you that they usually bite on worms, but a good spinner will get em too

[–]MattyAnon 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

they usually bite on worms, but a good spinner will get em too

I think I'll use a spinner. I don't want my worm bitten.

[–]itchassnigga 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I only use plastic worms for these hoes

[–]nemaxofredpill 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel like a spinner when I swim naked

[–]SwissPablo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Was waiting for the "ask a fisherman" line, but you extended it brilliantly.

[–]1nzgs 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Women want the naturals, hence the whole "hide your efforts" from the laws of power. Asking for girl advice automatically places a guy out of that group. The girls can genuinely like him and want to help him, but their advice will be in the context of helping him be a better beta, since he has outed himself as a non-alpha.

[–]Balls_so_hard 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't ask the cow which steak would taste best, I ask the butcher. Why would I ask a woman how to pick her up? Ask someone who gets girls how to get girls.....how is that a complicated idea?

[–]NAmember81 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

But if it's flipped around men I don't think give terrible advice to women. Women also give terrible advice to women come to think of it. All the chicks with disgusting boob jobs that make a mockery of real breasts most likely asked too many women for advice.

[–]theozoph 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Women are unaware of what turns them on, they only have The Hamster to rely on, and The Hamster is a fucking Jedi Master : "This isn't the 'nice guy' you're supposedly looking for, go flirt with Chad Thundercock over there..."

Edit : shitty bot won't let me link to a TRP thread, and archive.today is out of bounds thanks to my company's firewall. Look up "women don't know what turn them on" on google and choose the TRP link for the article I was trying to link to.

[–]tuxedoburrito 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dude I was talking to this girl on tinder. Following the "how to date online" post that was prompted on trp a few days ago.

got her number within 5 messages, immediately got the conversation off tinder.

asked her if she knew any good skinny dipping spots, she laughed but responded saying she wasnt going to get nude that easy.

but she texted me regardless.

i invited her to go run with me, she was out of town but is going to when she gets back (she says without me asking her again).

then she says that im really demonstrative.

yeah, well youre the one texting me back and sending smilie faces.

I point that out even and she laughs and says touche. then i cut the conversation short after that til she gets back in town.

women dont know what they want at all. look at their actions not their words.

[–]BramRhodesDouglas 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

No. It's because they want an alpha. If a woman had to find a beta, get in a relationship with him and then mold him into an alpha then that would make her the leader of the relationship and therefore the alpha. Any man that woman must make alpha is not alpha at all. So they shit test to find real alphas. Feminism is one giant cultural shit test and if you pass you're giving tons of women tingles.

Since my red pill journey really took of a few months ago I've had tons of women freeze up in a convo or while making out and just look at me and say, "You're different..." Their reproductive strategy is working. Any man who passes shit tests is instantly hot.

[–]RemyPrice 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

just look at me and say, "You're different..."

This freaked me out the first five times it happened.

Now I just grin with amused mastery, and say "You have no idea."

[–]ENTangl3 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Holy fuck. This happened to me not too long ago, i was so confused but now i get it

[–]bulldoozer 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Never ask a woman for advice attracting women for the simple fact that it already shows her you aren't capable of it yourself and thus are pitied

[–]scarfox1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I fucking hope so, if it was as easy as doing what every other beta did to try and get girls all the girls would be taken and the world would be a boring beta brewed bitch fest bro. It's already almost that bad.

[–]eet_a_choad 152ポイント153ポイント  (49子コメント)

I laughed at this:

Step one: stop calling us females.

Right because the term female is so offensive.

Female

Definition: of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) that can be fertilized by male gametes.

You know what, I say we go back to calling them bitches and hoes, and if they behave really good, we can call them broads, but if they behave really bad, we call them cunts. Deal?

[–]bangbangahah 29ポイント30ポイント  (11子コメント)

Stop calling us females! Ugh!! Its so degrading ,like we're just some animals in the wild.

meanwhile.... SHUT UP WHITE CIS MALE

[–]Sicci 5ポイント6ポイント  (10子コメント)

What does "CIS" mean? I'm curious , it's not the first time i've seen it. It probably doesn't mean Commonwealth of Independent States , does it?

[–]abcd_z 11ポイント12ポイント  (6子コメント)

It's short for cisgender; having a physical body that matches the gender you identify as.

[–]Sicci 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's very interesting. Thanks! I wouldn't have figured it out.

[–]Cum_on_doorknob 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a term borrowed from Organic Chemistry oddly enough. Like a molecule can be a cis or trans isomer.

[–]Pantek51 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The real word for this is "normal" but then trans and other would have felt "not normal" and offended

[–]RealRational 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It hurts a little that a term for that even exists.

[–]IoSonCalaf 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

CIS used to describe someone whose gender identity matches their anatomical gender at birth. So a non-transsexual male (or non-transsexual female).

[–]anonlymouse 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

Step one: stop calling us

Yeah, that's where having women answering Ask Men really goes south.

[–]eet_a_choad 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oh shit, that's true. It just hit me, it's a sub about asking men things and yet the women are answering the questions and setting the tone. Ironic lol.

[–]anonlymouse 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's why a place like TRP will always be necessary even if the whole thing isn't to everyone's taste. It's the only way to make sure there's at least one place shit like that doesn't happen.

[–]RPthrowaway123 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

They have a woman moderator, and frequently comments from women are voted to the top. Going there isn't asking men at all, its asking women but with slightly less crying. Slightly.

[–]RealRational 39ポイント40ポイント  (15子コメント)

Yeah, cunt needs to make a return. I feel like it's never been more applicable.

[–]eet_a_choad 26ポイント27ポイント  (2子コメント)

You can say that again. They are constantly looking for a reason to feel offended.

Nowadays you can't even say 'female' without an estrogen-fueled frenzy of butthurt and crocodile tears from these vagina-carrying-retards. Might as well just call them cunts.

[–]occupythekitchen 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

neocunts because not even cuts would get why female is offensive

[–]RealRational 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. Female is the scientific term, it is ENTIRELY neutral. There exists no gender term that could possibly be LESS offensive. As soon as I got bitched at for saying "female" I decided cunt needed a return. Entitled loopy cunts.

[–]restatic 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

You need to go to Australia.

[–]Telfie 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep, my best mate is cunt, so is my next door neighbour, and my drinking buddy is also cunt.

[–]RealRational 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha, it's near the top of my list. You guys are just so fucking far... like, in order to make it really worth while I need to figure out a way in my schedule to stay an entire month. As a US citizen that is pretty much impossible.

[–]Simplewhitegirl 6ポイント7ポイント  (7子コメント)

cunt is reserved for a very special type of...female. It would lose its value if you just called us all that! then what would we call the ones that really are fucking cunts??

[–]recon_johnny 23ポイント24ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ankle.

It's about two feet below a cunt.

[–]RealRational 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

You are underestimating the number of females who "really are fucking cunts". It's the majority. Majority means more than 50%. Granted I think only 20% or so are by nature, the rest it's from ignorance. Doesn't really matter though, cunts a cunt.

[–]Simplewhitegirl -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Does that bother you? I think this sub should merge with whatever sub is out there that say ALL guys are liars, cheaters, and only care about getting their dicks wet. Both just love to generalize the other gender so i think you all would get along well :)

[–]RealRational 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

What? That you didn't know the majority of females today in the US are cunts?

That 20% or so are by nature?

That the rest are due to shear stupidity?

You should learn to provide context for your questions as well, I'm not a mind reader.

[–]Simplewhitegirl -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

idk i havent met enough women in the US to say most are cunts, but you sound pretty sure of yourself so ill take your word for it. Well, I guess my question is in regards to all of those. If you could give me a breakdown of how much your average day is ruined by all the cunts of America i think it would help me understand you better.

[–]eet_a_choad 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Does that bother you?

Shouldn't bother anyone. For example:

ALL guys are liars

All human beings lie. All of them. You tell at least one lie everyday, that's just human nature. White lies mostly. Technically this applies to everyone and is a valid generalization.

only care about getting their dicks wet

The problem with that is the word "only", but the rest it true, guys DO care about getting their dicks wet, but we also care about a bunch of other important shit, like work, money & finances, hobbies, life, whatever. So once again, it's almost a correct generalization, but misconstrued.

Generalizations are based on statistical likelihood. Some are statistically accurate, some are not. You want respect from men? That's easy: don't be a cunt.

[–]RPthrowaway123 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

They say it in game of thrones all the time (the books, even HBO isn't brave enough to kick that beehive). My personal favorite remains "Myrish swamp".

[–]B-Dubb8 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Laughed at this. I like the idea

[–]commanderchobo 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

there is no fucking way that even the most retarded cunt out there could possibly get offended by that term. reddit constantly lowers my expectations for shit people

[–]wrekd 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

It can be weird to grammar Nazis. Woman/women is a noun. Female is an adjective which describes the noun.

Female bathroom.

[–]eet_a_choad 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It can be both adjective and noun from the definition, google "female definition":

adjective

of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) that can be fertilized by male gametes.

noun

a female person, animal, or plant.

Grammar Nazis? More like grammar Feminazis.

[–]trpthrowcatch 39ポイント40ポイント  (2子コメント)

If you knew what women say and think about ladies men you wouldn't want to be one.

Let's see, would I rather get laid with beautiful women that didn't like me, or be stuck in the friendzone and get laid once every 5 years to the first fat woman who took pity on me? What a tough choice.

[–]Your_Personal_Jesus 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

The funniest of the whole thing is how that same person will say "don't generalize women!" while in that post admitting that they judge and generalize all men they think are "ladies' men".

[–]SwissPablo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If he knew what women think of hot ladies men he would definitely want to be one.

[–]newspaper_nerd 58ポイント59ポイント  (6子コメント)

The worst reply of the bunch:

Your inability to accept mediocrity troubles me. I think you might have a personality disorder like narcissism

[–]Hoodwink 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

His problem is the opposite of narcissism. It's that he spends most of the time thinking and reacting to other people and not paying attention to power or social dynamics.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

That single sentence could be the tagline of reddit.

[–]eet_a_choad 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can say that again. Hell, reddit doesn't even allow for salary negotiations for employees now. Mediocrity at it's finest.

[–]QuantifiedDisgust 34ポイント35ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have a feeling that the hordes of mediocre, generic, boring and flat people who have lives rotating around pointless trivialities can't stand the idea of anyone trying to be better than them. Like the crabs in a bucket analogy, mediocrity wants to breed mediocrity.

[–]RPthrowaway123 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That made me angry. First of all, unless you're a doctor shut the fuck up about diagnosing mental illness. Second of all, the guy came in saying he had shit self-esteem and their solution is to accuse him of being...self-absorbed?

If he was really a narcissist he wouldn't be in that thread seeking your approval, asshole.

"Accepting mediocrity" got me going too. What the fuck is wrong with shooting for the stars, wanting to be something better than fucking mediocre? This is the same fucking crabs-in-a-bucket mentality that holds so many men back.

[–]Rathadin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What troubles me is that if this was a post in AskWomen, and if it was a woman who had been used and tossed away by man after man, and if she had called a suicide hotline, and they told her to fix her shit and "Woman Up", the entire fucking Internet would collectively lose its goddamned mind.

Banks of servers would fucking ignite spontaneously and explode. Thousands of miles of fiber optic cable would shatter. Datacenters would go up in flames from the collective outrage made physically manifest.

If you needed any more further proof that men are considered the disposable sex, this would unequivocally be it.

[–]Sir_Shitlord_focker 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

"They are robots. If they detect that you're not in line with feminism, they will put aside any empathy for your problems and attack you instead."

Very true and in all cases, I've seen this post from a girl who got raped and now wanted to have violent sex to relieve it, at some point she said she liked what happened to her, you should have seen the avalanche of hate and accusations (you're sick, twisted, evil, made evil by the rapist, he broke your mind, etc...) on a support forum.

[–]BluepillProfessor 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some Red Knight needs to get that boy over here right now.

[–]Billybob25112 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

If he's man enough this experience will change him for the better.

[–]ZombieMushroom420 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I feel like when we see stuff like this someone should send the guy some kind of invitation to TRP.

[–]NapalmGod69 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Skimmed through the comments on that post and I think the guy is remarkably self aware. He explicitly states that he doesn't want to be a "player" for the sex, rather for the validation. This guy needs to read "No More Mr. Nice Guy" stat and stop looking to others to fulfill his needs.

[–]mikeshinobi 17ポイント18ポイント  (3子コメント)

Be someone you would date.

Good god what terrible advice.

[–]WardlyHasted 30ポイント31ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think Bruce Jenner got that advice and took it too literally.

[–]The_BeardedGentleman 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not even Bruce Jenner would date the tranny version.

[–]SwissPablo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

In that guy's position, hearing that would probably send him over the edge.

[–]bulldoozer 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

We all know men and women are valued for different things aka utility vs fertility. This is why a deadbeat woman will still have value and have no problem getting men. But a deadbeat man is absolutely the most worthless thing on the planet

[–]my_redpill_account 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Poor guy.

He will swallow the pill if and when he's ready, or else I'd mention something to him. Not sure if this counts as concern trolling but I feel for the guy being in his position before. Totally worthless of the comments section to be dicks.

[–]SwissPablo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I imagine him at the end of his tether, he doesn't know what to do, he's lonely and doesn't know which way to turn. You can see he knows he should do something, but he fury and desperation are strong. He did make the mistake of thinking that someone just telling him it would be okay would help; he needs firm but fair treatment, tough love.

However, he really didn't deserve the bile. The commenters were reacting to his words, not the source. It's obvious they were unable to empathize with this guy at all.

Stopping using the word "females" might, in the eyes of the commenters, help society, but it won't help this guy.

[–]windowkicker 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

while AskMen has long been known to be comprised of 50% women adn 50% card-carrying betas.

It's funny that they can't have carry on like that in this sub. We smell shit at 100 yards and downvote accordingly.

[–]occupythekitchen 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

ask man more like boy and ginas I would much rather go to askrp

[–]bertmaklinFBI 8ポイント9ポイント  (10子コメント)

Your problem is seeing it as the fault of "women" rather than as the fault of those who caused the problems. You're generalizing about women based on what some women have done.

+47

Don't really see why you cited this is as poor advice. If TRP teaches anything is personal responsibility and not being a victim.

It's like getting mad at a dog for eating food you left out and walked away from. And then taking that instance (where you are responsible and ignored nature/instincts) and warping it into a hatred of all dogs.

This guy is the female equivalent of a obese tatted up pink haired feminist that complains that men are assholes because they dont want to fuck her or date her. NO. You suck. You are unfuckable. You are undateable.This dude sucks. He is depressing, suicidal, ugly, etc. I wouldn't want to be friends with him let alone expecting a chick to fuck him.

Some people suck and that's the end of the story. You can give 100 people TRP. Some will thrive. Some will still suck ass. That is life.

[–]WardlyHasted 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

I think it's bad advice because it's disingenuous.

If a woman had posted a similar problem, she would not be getting responses like that. It would definitely be a case of "where have all the good men gone" and "you're a special snowflake, just wait until you find the right guy!".

Furthermore, the "You're generalizing about women based on what some women have done" is straight up horse shit. What else are you supposed to do? Make assumption about women based on how cats interact with you? This is playing into the idea of NAWALT and that eventually he'll find 'the one'. There are no unicorns and most women act like most other women. Generalizing their behaviour into something you can utilize is essentially what TRP is.

That being said, I basically agree with you. The dude most likely needs to improve himself.

[–]Senior ContributorYouDislikeMyOpinion 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

The dude most likely needs to improve himself.

There is no most likely about it. That goes for anyone.

[–]1cover20 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

True, and some time in the gym could help clear the depression a bit, so it cannot hurt.

But some tactics (rather than disinfo) would help him too. Look I don't know how hopeless this guy is, but it's not that hard to get a woman's time, a woman's pussy. It's just not that fucking hard. So if he's put in all this effort without more success, he was trying the wrong way.

Learn how, get the pussy, get your rocks off, move on with life -- whether it's career, family, more pussy plates, whatever. But it's not some insurmountable task, much as some bullshit artists (these are typically a certain type of women) want you to think it is.

[–]bertmaklinFBI 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I disagree that it is disingenuous. Blame should be assigned to the ones that cause the problems, hypothetically in this case the original OP and the chick for whatever she did (e.g. cheating). Your example is bad disingenuous advice:

If a woman had posted a similar problem, she would not be getting responses like that. It would definitely be a case of "where have all the good men gone" and "you're a special snowflake, just wait until you find the right guy!".

Would you give that advice to your sister? No because you are feeding her sugar coated nonsense.

Generalizing and stereotyping is essential to human survival in order to make subconscious decisions about who is a friend or foe. I was all about AWALT for a time period. Interestingly this was during my anger phase. At a certain point generalizing becomes a crutch/problem as your experiences grow. Warren Buffet/Munger write a lot about this in regards to business/investing. As much as this flies in the face of TRP, when you get well past the anger stage and start screening women you will see there are similarities but they are different and there are nuances to all of them. But this is a dangerous thought to an early TRPer. It makes it too complicated. All types of dogs are just "dogs" when you are little. Then you start to recognize different types (small or big). Then you start to recognize breeds. Then you start to recognize attributes of these different breeds. TRP advocates screening women for LTRs. There is a reason for that. Some are better than others.

Something to think about.

[–]1cover20 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

All women have vaginas. All vaginas, the hormones associated with them, etc. work the same. AWALT. If a man wants sex or reproduction, he'd better learn how that system works and how to interact with it, from hello to (wham bam) thank you ma'am.

But some women also have brains. And the brains are not the same, just as my brain is not the same as another man's.

[–]Vigilo_Infinite 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think it's because they're taking his feelings - which he's brought to them in sincerity for help - and thrown them out the window. They don't care, they just see him as repulsive.

[–]bertmaklinFBI 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

He is repulsive. From the OP of that thread:

I have avoided relationships since 2009, spending all those years fantasizing about becoming a ladies man. It is not going to happen. It is out of my control. It is high time I let go and started moving on!

So this guy CHOSE to avoid relationships because he fantasized about being a player.....but suddenly he is not in control/responsible when it does not work out the way he wanted? Dude is mentally weak and the herd is weeding him out.

Again TRP expects a man to be capable and a emotional strong/stable. This guy is neither and as such got ripped apart (although not exactly for the same reasons I am). This guy needs a reality check, not a gentle massaging of his virginal asshole.

[–]1cover20 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's called "monk mode" when it's done reasonably. Maybe a few months, six months is OK. Six years is crazy.

Has anyone offered this TRP? Theres' so much "advice" out there meant specifically to steer away from our ideas. The disinfo is intense and sophisticated.

[–]bertmaklinFBI 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. He "chose" it for six years? Bullshit. Cognitive dissonance and ego protection right there.

It reminds me of when people get fired and then respond "you can't fire me because I quit".

[–]Senior ContributorYouDislikeMyOpinion 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

"If you knew what women say and think about ladies men you wouldn't want to be one."

Genuinely made me laugh. It's right up there with "money doesn't make you happy".

[–]Wheatspin 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

FPH has taught me to embrace the title of shitlord. I can only hope this guy will too

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is why you don't ask for sympathy. Ever. Because the average man or woman's sympathy for a hypothetical female with an abstract problem is higher than for real you with a concrete problem.

People get sympathy according to how much they are valued. Since women have inherent, biological value to the tribe (they can have babies), they retain at least some value no matter how much of a train wreck they are. Men are only valuable to the tribe because of what they can accomplish (sperm is cheap).

If you show weakness by asking for sympathy, you will demonstrate weakness, and therefore be seen as unworthy of it. The more severe your problem, the more you will be seen as unworthy, and the less sympathy you will receive.

Here's what you do instead:

  • Be awesome. That way less things will happen that make you afraid or sad.
  • Ignore or suppress it. These emotions swell when dwelt upon.
  • Exercise. Adrenalin flushes away tension and fear.
  • Do something productive. A sense of accomplishment washes away sadness.
  • Build a network of bros, male friends who have your back.

[–]1cover20 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

As a parent with difficult teenagers, I would have expected there's lots of help out there for us going through a famously difficult phase of raising young'uns. I am having some problems with my younger boy, and I wanted to reach out.

Well there's no really that much help, and even when it starts out pretty good, it eventually turns bluepill in most cases.

I found reading this sub helpful even though it's about sexing women rather than raising boys.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's about sexing women because it started as a pickup group, but the mission has broadened.

One of the biggest problems with raising boys today as that, as women's voices have become more and more listened to, and men's voices less and less so, and as acknowledgment of the fundamental differences between the male and female brain has started to vanish from our culture, female behaviour is reinterpreted as healthy behaviour, and male behaviour is reinterpreted as defective or delinquent behaviour.

Proper care of boys starts with respect for the value of masculinity.

What problems are you having?

[–]Oprahforpresident 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The line from the dark knight from the joker about not doing something you do well for free really should really be remembered by more people. Most of these people playing dr phil on ask men wouldnt be on there doing it for free if they were good at it. Reddit really is a cesspool of people playing makebelieve sometimes.

[–]ExpendableOne 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Subs like AskMen and OneY are just mirror subs of askwomen and twoxc. Instead of just standing up to just how ridiculous and sexist, and anti-male, these places were to begin with, they just decided that the best solution was to mirror their formats for women's convenience(instead of standing up for themselves or demanding an end to sexist subs, they just allowed themselves to be segregated and annexed into mirror subs). It's pretty sad.

no, the problem is that he calls women "females".

Not only is that a ridiculous thing to bring up, because that would literally never actually come into play when he's actually interacting with women directly, but this is clearly an example of her projecting her insecurities and fucked up issues with an apt word onto this guy's situation(or basically, taking an opportunity to use his insecurities and his failures with women to, as a woman, dictate his language).

Seriously though, if you have a problem with the word "female" or "male", as they apply to men and women, you either have some major mental issues or you need to read the dictionary a few more times. Stop projecting some kind of patriarchal oppression whenever someone refers to a woman as a "female". Secondly, stop presenting your personal issues with that word as if was some kind of point on that all women have unanimously chosen to deem offensive. Not all women are so needlessly "triggered" by the word "female". If that guy was hot as fuck, he could be calling women "females" left and right, and women would be loving it because it's coming from a hot guy(or, at the very worse, he would still be doing well in spite of it).

Alternatively, if every woman you meet smells like shit, maybe that's because... every woman you meet smells like shit. Sometimes it is that simple.

That argument always makes me laugh. "If the greater majority of women treat men like shit, then clearly there is no problem because the majority of women say so". That's like saying there was no racism problem in the early days of american history, because the majority of the population didn't think there was a problem. The reality is that women do get away with bad behaviour, and that no one actually holds them accountable for that behaviour because they are women. The fact that there are enough men out there who will just bend over backwards to accommodate them, or to subjugate themselves for their benefit, doesn't change that fact.

[–]lekemus 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why are females even allowed to comment there, its called askmen aka you want a mans opinion..

[–]NorthMike 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Never ask Reddit for advice. That is what I have learned.

[–]RPthrowaway123 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

That guy seriously sounds like he's gonna off himself...and they can't even suspend the "women are wonderful" effect for 5 minutes to get him some help? Holy shit.

[–]_bluerabbit_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

One less worthless male in their perspective.

[–]1cover20 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The final line is very hopeful:

I have been laughing since yesterday. I have lots of thinking and growing up to do.

He is right on. He needs some better thinking and some growing. And we can help.

(when someone announces they are at a decision point like this, the whiteknight shills typically jump in in force to steer them away from actual help.)

Perhaps we should offer some help to /u/diablo1988 on how he can actually improve his experiences and results with women, some thinking and ways of growth. But I don't have experience dealing with suicidal people so I am asking for advice on that idea here.

[–]pirateninj4 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

His first mistake was coming to the internet looking for emotional support as a man.

[–]Happy_Gains 30ポイント31ポイント  (1子コメント)

uhhh we all come to the internet for emotional support this is exactly why we're on RP. venting in a place where there can be relation, is a form of emotional support. he simply chose the wrong venue for validation and improvement.

[–]coffee_and_lumber 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think advice works better in a group where you are an accepted member, which we have here. That guy comes here, first thing he'll hear is read the sidebar, which basically means, "Read the club handbook. Welcome to the club. STFU about the club" Instead of one or two posts with a bunch of random strangers, he'll get a full battery of information with the support of like-minded peers. Hope we see him around here.

[–]HereHaveAnUpmote 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah don't talk about suicide on the internet, the last time i posted something about it on this sub i ended up in the mental ward for 30 days and when i got out immediately charged with a felony

[–]lugubriusTRP 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I remember calling all women females in front of a feminist, she always got mad.

[–]DoctorHomunculus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The girls behave this way intrinsically, the guys do so because they're on a short leash and they hope that by helping kick down their fellow brothers.

This struck a chord with me. I've always wanted to help those around me. Make people around me become better than they were the day previous.

What many don't realize is that people take advantage of this mentality. It's not that it's right or wrong, but it is just how nature is.

Humans seem to always want to control things. Have things THEIR way.

All humans have (not just women) intrinsic dispositions that they may never come to notice. This is life.

[–]WhatsThaDealio 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Responses are so angry because he's actually asking for advice and wanting to better himself. The responders are content in their mediocrity and happy to trying to bring everyone down to their level.

[–]monteboss -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Woman are a necessary evil but still evil. Betas are simply evil and not necessary.

[–]doneitnow -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ctrl+F misog - 1 result. WOAH ASKMEN TORE THAT PERSON APART