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UNBANNED - MOD + ADMIN EXPLANATION IN COMMENTSReddit bans r/whalewatching thinking its a clone of r/fatpeoplehate. It was actually a real attempt at a whale watching community and has existed for +2 years. (archive.is)

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[–]AlseidesDD 1732ポイント1733ポイント  (37子コメント)

Excellent work admins, I'm sure all the Cetaceans are thankful for your removal of that vile sub that encourages voyeurism on innocent, peaceful, ocean-dwelling mammals.

[–]techietalk_ticktock 112ポイント113ポイント  (4子コメント)

/r/whalebait

[–]ExpendableOne 368ポイント369ポイント  (5子コメント)

Those whalophile creeps got what they deserved. Finally the admins are doing something against whale-rape culture.

[–]KosherDensity 90ポイント91ポイント  (0子コメント)

In the time it took me to write this, 17 whales were stare-raped by creepy whalinistic voyeurs with binoculars on boats.

Give to my Patreon and I can crusade against this terrible injustice to our whale-kins!

[–]AWildEnglishman 16ポイント17ポイント  (3子コメント)

Something something fact about dolphin gang-rape something.

[–]sean_seany 57ポイント58ポイント  (5子コメント)

I heard the feminist action group representing Plankton are behind this.

The Whales have been raping the shit out of the oceans for over 9000 years. Often spectated by those damned Sea Lions.

/sarcasm

EDIT : made an adjustment.Silly mistake to make :)

[–]lets_move_to_voat 86ポイント87ポイント  (16子コメント)

yes, a sub with 15 subscribers that has been totally inactive 2 years along with its creator. What a tragedy.

People were obviously using it as a /r/fatpeoplehate backup.

[–]Nathsters 52ポイント53ポイント  (8子コメント)

I'll admit it sounds like a great alt subreddit.

[–]lets_move_to_voat 35ポイント36ポイント  (7子コメント)

well now we have /r/TheBeachHead. shitlords gettin' creative

[–]NoOneWhere 28ポイント29ポイント  (6子コメント)

... God, this is going to be horrible. They'll end up for nth to the nth amount of autoban-words, leaving nothing behind.

[–]DiaboliAdvocatus 28ポイント29ポイント  (2子コメント)

Remember in Ghostbusters when they shutdown the containment unit?

FPH was a containment board.

[–]libbylibertarian 23ポイント24ポイント  (2子コメント)

Maybe that's the point...

[–]The_Deaf_One 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

Keep making subreddits until it's impossible to make one with all the banned words? I like it

[–]___ATARAXIA___ 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hijacking your comment to post this interview of Aaron Swartz, co-founder of Reddit, expressing his worries and warning about private companies censoring content in the future, which needs to be seen by especially the admins so they can see how they have shat on his memory.

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/39gssf/aaron_swartz_cofounder_of_reddit_expresses_his/

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      [–]AsianGirl69420 4232ポイント4233ポイント x2 (454子コメント)

      Bravo, admins. Bravo.

      Edit: whaa? thanks for the gold but uh, please don't buy gold. I hate to fund Pao's legal fees so her husband and her can pay for the non-stop con shit they pull.

      Also, from what I hear, the /rwhalewatching was derailed by like, 2 threads by ex-FPH posters, mods nuked it then restored it. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. It's still ridiculous moderation, regardless.

      [–]LongDistanceEjcltr 1443ポイント1444ポイント  (339子コメント)

      They're just bombing everything even remotely related to the banned topics and I'm pretty sure that they don't have the time to check every single sub when they have to ban (potentially) hundreds of them... sooo they nuke it from the orbit and reinstate the unrelated ones if someone complains loud enough.

      A standard procedure in the coming months and (hopefully not) years at Reddit HQ. :D

      EDIT: Aaron Swartz, Co-founder of Reddit, expresses his concerns and warns about private companies censoring the internet, months before his death - worth checking out, thanks /u/___ATARAXIA___

      [–]Marsmar-LordofMars 958ポイント959ポイント  (125子コメント)

      Reddit admins apparently can't quickly visit a sub to see if whale watching is actually about whales.

      Sucks even more that their attempts at making a new sub will get deleted too.

      [–]LongDistanceEjcltr 525ポイント526ポイント  (39子コメント)

      apparently can't quickly visit a sub to see

      At this point, I doubt that they do it at all. There's most likely a semi-automated process in place where the staff just feeds keywords to a ban script (which then maybe looks at the presence of some complaints against the given sub and/or the people in the sub). Easy. It goes completely against their "We're banning behavior, not ideas" claims, but whatever... who cares, only Misogynists, am I right?

      [–]AnEditHappened 161ポイント162ポイント  (29子コメント)

      You've been banned from /r/paoyongyang for the following reason:

      Failed to create a safe space for diverse peoples, triggering content.

      찬양 영광스러운 친애하는 지도자 엘렌 파오

      Praise glorious dear leader Ellen Pao.

      This message was satire in its entirety.

      [–]Topham_Kek 190ポイント191ポイント  (17子コメント)

      I was scrolling down and was quite pleasantly surprised seeing my language Korean out of nowhere.

      I think it could be better translated in some way, hmmm...

      찬양하고 영광스러운 우리의 영원한 지도자 엘렌 파오 동지!

      I translated it to "Our eternal glorious and praiseworthy leader Comrade Ellen Pao!"

      EDIT: For the record I've also kind of translated the bottom part of the copypasta. My Korean may be rusty, however.

      이 메시지는 우리 친애하는 지도자 동지의 가르침을 인민들에게 알리기 위하여 있습니다. 우리의 고귀한 지도자 엘렌 파오 동지는 지금 서양놈들의 끔찍한 "표현의 자유"를 없에자하여 이 영광스러운 전쟁을 치르고 계십니다. 우리 지도자의 고귀한 제자들은 /r/PaoYongYang 이라는 성스러운 장소에 있습니다. 트리거가 없고 문제하나없는 모든 인민들의 피난처 입니다.

      I however could not find the Korean equivalent of the word "trigger" the way it is being used in this case.

      EDIT2: These are the few I came up with, I commented this below, but just for visibility's sake.

      인민들의 수호자, 엘렌 파오 동지 만세!

      Translated: Long live Comrade Ellen Pao, the savior of the people!

      영광스러운 우리의 영원한 지도자 엘렌 파오 동무 만세!

      Translated: All hail our honorable eternal leader, Comrade Ellen Pao!

      서양놈들의 더러운 "표현자유" 단매에 없에버리자!

      Translated: Let us all rightly eliminate the sick western ideology of "Free speech"!

      충성스러운 인민들은 질문을 하지 않는다!

      Translated: A loyal citizen does not ask questions!

      자유생각은 금물! "표현자유" 좋아하는 간나새끼들을 없에자!

      Translated: Freethinking is the absolute worst! We will eliminate those "freed speech" loving bastards!

      우리의 혁명을 반대하는 자들이여! 우리 장군님을 두려워하라! 엘렌 파오 동지 만세!

      Translated: Those who oppose our revolution! Fear our general! Cheers for Comrade Ellen Pao!

      맹새한다 우리는! 잡생각을 이세상에서 깡그리 없에자!

      Translated: We solemly swear! Let us purge this world of other-thoughts!

      EDIT3: I'm going to sleep now, I'm kind of low on ideas, and it's 2:15AM. If a different Korean stumbles upon this, please forgive any errors I may have made here, I hardly ever type in Korean...

      [–]AnEditHappened 27ポイント28ポイント  (14子コメント)

      umm.... what does it say in the first place?

      [–]Topham_Kek 53ポイント54ポイント  (13子コメント)

      It says "Praise Honorable Leader Ellen Pao!" In English grammar form. In Korean the grammar didn't seem right. I just fixed it.

      [–]AnEditHappened 170ポイント171ポイント  (11子コメント)

      You've been banned from /r/paoyongyang for the following reason:

      Failed to create a safe space for diverse peoples, triggering content.

      찬양하고 영광스러운 우리의 영원한 지도자 엘렌 파오 동무!

      Praise glorious dear leader Ellen Pao.

      This message was satire in its entirety.

      Edit: Got it

      [–]Topham_Kek 50ポイント51ポイント  (10子コメント)

      I'm actually gonna go see if I can make it any more North Korean-esque. Hang on.

      인민들의 수호자, 엘렌 파오 동지 만세!

      Translated: Long live Comrade Ellen Pao, the savior of the people!

      영광스러운 우리의 영원한 지도자 엘렌 파오 동무 만세!

      Translated: All hail our honorable eternal leader, Comrade Ellen Pao!

      서양놈들의 더러운 "표현자유" 단매에 없에버리자!

      Translated: Let us all rightly eliminate the sick western ideology of "Free speech"!

      충성스러운 인민들은 질문을 하지 않는다!

      Translated: A loyal citizen does not ask questions!

      자유생각은 금물! "표현자유" 좋아하는 간나새끼들을 없에자!

      Translated: Freethinking is the absolute worst! We will eliminate those "freedom of speech" loving bastards!

      우리의 혁명을 반대하는 자들이여! 우리 장군님을 두려워하라! 엘렌 파오 동지 만세!

      Translated: Those who oppose our revolution! Fear our general! Cheers for Comrade Ellen Pao!

      맹새한다 우리는! 잡생각을 이세상에서 깡그리 없에자!

      Translated: We solemly swear! Let us purge this world of other-thoughts!

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          [–]craschnet 38ポイント39ポイント  (10子コメント)

          You've been banned from /r/paoyongyang for the following reason:

          It triggered me and hurt my feefees.

          찬양 영광스러운 친애하는 지도자 엘렌 파오

          This message was satire in its entirety.

          [–]HuggLife 45ポイント46ポイント  (2子コメント)

          If there's one good thing that's come from this mess it's the rise of the word "feefees."

          So haha. Much.

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              [–]Jbones159 96ポイント97ポイント  (15子コメント)

              It's double-plus ungood.

              [–]Cu_Gorm 28ポイント29ポイント  (9子コメント)

              It was automated. "Whale" is probably a filter word for subs now.

              [–]Twoapplesnbanana 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

              You expect them to act rationally when they're triggered?

              [–]thisisnewt 48ポイント49ポイント  (21子コメント)

              When I checked /r/whalewatching last night the top 4 or 5 posts all time were mocking fat people...including one from two years ago.

              Yes, the majority of posts were actually about whales. But if the admins did what I did and just find the highest rated post from pre-FPH, they'd find a post mocking fat people...pretty easy to see the conclusion they came to.

              [–]PandaTheDeadMan 161ポイント162ポイント  (11子コメント)

              Except they never claimed they torched FPH because of the content. They claim they did it because of the community members being toxic and brigading other subs.

              [–]tipsana 82ポイント83ポイント  (2子コメント)

              This is why the admins' actions are so problematic. The cavalier application of their own rules is sickening.

              [–]XxSCRAPOxX 59ポイント60ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Except they didn't ban srs so it's clearly a lie.

              [–]SippieCup 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

              What I dont understand is how they think FPH is bad, but SRS is perfectly fine because its a circlejerk. FPH was literally the same exact thing but focusing on fat people rather than white male privilege.

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                [–]lipidsly 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Ssssstill not brigading and shit. Unless even the possibility of a brigade is good enough now...

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                    [–]scamp41 329ポイント330ポイント  (61子コメント)

                    But remember, they are banning behavior, not ideas.

                    What a fucking joke this has been.

                    [–]Deceptichum 232ポイント233ポイント  (52子コメント)

                    New subreddit that hasn't had a chance to display behaivour but has a name related to an idea? Banned!

                    Banning WhaleWatching despite it being an old sub and not even related to FPH but it shares a name that is similar to the idea?

                    Fuck that excuse, they're 100% targeting the idea not the actions. I hope this site dies.

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                      [–]PaperLuigi3 61ポイント62ポイント  (7子コメント)

                      Let's see if this is loud enough.

                      HEY /u/KN0THING THAT WASN'T A FPH SUB THAT WAS ABOUT WHALES

                      Now we wait.

                      [–]earlierson 73ポイント74ポイント  (5子コメント)

                      Ban /r/whalewatching, a site dedicated to, literally, watching ocean-bound animals, because it 'harasses' human beings with medical problems?

                      You couldn't even MAKE this shit up.

                      /u/kn0thing, so disappointed in you and the entire admin team.

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                        [–]Spellvexit 224ポイント225ポイント  (20子コメント)

                        This proves it is not about harassment. It's about the personal agendas of individual admins and Chairwoman Pao.

                        [–]LeeHarveyShazbot 212ポイント213ポイント  (16子コメント)

                        Exactly, she is a sexist bully, among other things.

                        Kleiner’s attorneys didn’t have to look very far for evidence of Pao’s horrible personal failings. Emails from 2009 show Pao critcising her assistant for taking time off work to help her landlord, a non-English speaker, who had been in a serious car accident. Pao’s response to the domestic crisis was as follows:

                        “It’s great that you want to be helpful to your landlord. It would be better for me if you could come to work on time. Let me know if you think differently, but I think your job should be your priority.”

                        The woman had a heart of gold, as you can see.

                        But admonishing her staff for helping victims of road accidents was just one aspect of Pao’s sociopathy and selfishness. Bizarrely, she kept a chart listing “resentments” that she held over her colleagues at Kleiner Perkins. She also admitted to sending negative e-mails about coworkers behind their backs, and acknowledged that she had once bullied a colleague to tears.

                        [–]mrmatthunt 45ポイント46ポイント  (6子コメント)

                        I wonder if she's at all embarrassed about all this shit going on about her on this entire site

                        [–]Rithe 58ポイント59ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Self obsessed narcissists typically aren't. We are 'beneath' her

                        [–]doyle871 25ポイント26ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        I think she gets off on the attention. Some people don't care if attention is good or bad as long as they get it.

                        [–]LeeHarveyShazbot 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Probably not, sociopaths don't feel embarrassment.

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                          [–]Spellvexit 59ポイント60ポイント  (3子コメント)

                          Wtf. Bitch.

                          [–]Lugash 30ポイント31ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Remember gamers are the hatemob!

                          [–]cha0s 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Looking behind the curtain is misogyny.

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                                [–]badger_meat 89ポイント90ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                Next they're gonna ban r/fitness, r/running, r/keto, and r/bodybuilding, among others because those are some how related to fat people hate

                                [–]ActualFrenchFag 24ポイント25ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                Unfortunately some diets are victims of political attacks because they upset other dieters that are usually very political (like vegans). So I would not be surprised; after all the paleo diet was already criticized for being "misogynist" by a "journalist". And then you have the vested interests of the packaged/junk food industry, which is seeing its sales declining significantly.

                                I don't really care unless it translates into poor food availability in the real world, it's already hard enough to find good food.

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                                  [–]mscomies 99ポイント100ポイント  (64子コメント)

                                  Hopefully not years because hopefully Reddit won't be around for much longer.

                                  [–]Owyn_Merrilin 66ポイント67ポイント  (63子コメント)

                                  They'll limp along in some form, even with most of the users gone. Digg still exists, and so does myspace, which you'd think would be even deader than Digg.

                                  [–]95wave 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  Think of it like this, we rightfully say they're SJW's and such and we will gain more popular support than ever

                                  redditgate

                                  [–]WaitWhyNot 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Years? Jesus let's just go to voat.co when it's ready.

                                  [–]Vkmies 36ポイント37ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                  Well, this is the kind of completely half-assed assholism that breeds stuff like #RedditRevolt. Not being able to hate on fat people is not going to make the masses leave, despite people not supporting the move. But this sort of idiocy is going to make people leave. When the mods cannot even be bothered to do their shit job properly and "hurting innocents" in the process. This has gone past the point of absurdity, I find it hilarious and terrible at the same time. Not sure if I should laugh or cry.

                                  [–]LongDistanceEjcltr 20ポイント21ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  the mods

                                  Minor correction: The mods have no power outside of their respective sub-Reddits. Only admins (Reddit staff) can ban topics and people site-wide.

                                  [–]Donitsu 48ポイント49ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  This is the most fun I've had on reddit in years. It's like watching a train crash that's completely off the rails destroying everything in its path.

                                  [–]Kirk_Kerman 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Yeah, it's wonderful popcorn. Pretty much nobody would give a fuck if they just let it die after the first ban, but consistently trying to shut down anything related to the banned sub is Streisanding the hell out of the issue.

                                  [–]doyle871 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Fph is just the first of many. They want more money from advertising that means sanitising Reddit. Fph hate only got targeted because it made the front page and hot mainstream media attention. Any other subs that aren't "safe" that get popular will get banned too.

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                                    [–]Cu_Gorm 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                    According to the sub's page it was an autoban.

                                    [–]Lhasadog 38ポイント39ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                    How do you autoban "behavior"? Only "ideas" ie "words" can be autobanned. Banning behavior requires context and observation.

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                                      [–]Goatsac 45ポイント46ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      The nonsense did eventually blow into our sub, and the sub was incorrectly banned.

                                      A simple conversation with the admins got our sub re-instated.

                                      [–]___ATARAXIA___ 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      Hijacking your comment to post this interview of Aaron Swartz, co-founder of Reddit, expressing his worries and warning about private companies censoring content in the future, which needs to be seen by especially the admins so they can see how they have shat on his memory.

                                      https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/39gssf/aaron_swartz_cofounder_of_reddit_expresses_his/

                                      [–]Orderofthecrab 33ポイント34ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      /r/fatpeoplegate

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                                        [–]incident_report 57ポイント58ポイント  (27子コメント)

                                        everyone needs to flood VOAT.co front page constantly for rest of the days, i know voat is not able to float with this traffic but i am sure they will somehow manage it. Flood voat to frontpage everyone, VOAT all the time all pages everywhere. Fuck chairman pao .

                                        [–]TheMoves 26ポイント27ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                        People were spamming the sub with pictures of fat people and vote brigading to get those pics to the top, so I'm sure it was an easy mistake to make. Basically a bunch of little kids thought it would be funny to bring a small, friendly subreddit into their tantrum

                                        [–]rhubarbs 14ポイント15ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                        Given the current signal to noise ratio, mistakes are unsurprising.

                                        [–]Psyladine 22ポイント23ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                        Hey remember when the admins shadowbanned everyone downvoting the "technology/new" queue in protest of maxwell and anutensil? People are protesting using the site's own rules. Given Pao's own public demeanor however, I can't say I'm surprised. She's acting more childish than Yishan did when he called out that ex-employee's IAMA.

                                        [–]ghjkcvbn 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        Technically downvoting a subreddit for a limited time because someone suggested it is a brigade and against the site's rules.

                                        Also, I didn't see that happen, but wouldn't be surprised if the only people shadowbanned were using multiple accounts etc. and claiming they weren't.

                                        [–]Psyladine 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        They were subscribers to /r/technology, not technically brigaders, which was the admin logic for not banning them. They were conducting themselves in the sub's own rules, they just collectively downvoted all new items to keep the scandal material on the /t/technology front page.

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                                            [–]ev1lb1t 2258ポイント2259ポイント  (58子コメント)

                                            BUT REMEMBER! THEY'RE BANNING ACTIONS, NOT IDEAS! /sarcasm

                                            [–]Jbones159 279ポイント280ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                            Well, Willy did free himself.

                                            [–]EllenPaosEgo 148ポイント149ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                            Posts 2 years old, top upvoted one being "look at this whale" with a link to an actual whale. Clearly they were part of a brigading group that harasses and doxxes individuals /s

                                            [–]whom 80ポイント81ポイント  (30子コメント)

                                            Here's what was really going on when that sub was set to private, just in case you actually wanted the facts.

                                            [–]x3tripleace3x 80ポイント81ポイント  (20子コメント)

                                            God fucking damn this is hilarious. If I'm understanding this correctly, some of the /r/FPH community basically hijacked the subreddit and forced the admins to remove it. Then they use it as dirt against the admins. Fucking next-level disgust right here.

                                            edit: After looking into it even more, it looks like the reason it even worked in the first place is because some of the mods were FPH supporters and let it happen.

                                            [–]9021012346 33ポイント34ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            forced the admins to remove it

                                            give me a break... I didn't see them removing /r/pics when that was derailed

                                            they could easily just ban the people who were making unrelated posts. this entire thing has been about censorship to make reddit more palatable for advertisers.

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                                                  [–]Essar 445ポイント446ポイント  (67子コメント)

                                                  What did it look like immediately before being banned? I see some less savoury characters like archangelleshiftless on the mod team there. Possible that the sub was derailed?

                                                  [–]IAmSupernovaMod - @SupaNovaKiA 330ポイント331ポイント  (46子コメント)

                                                  Yeah, it was derailed.

                                                  [–]Cthulu2014 312ポイント313ポイント  (40子コメント)

                                                  So the 10 millionth incident today of Redditors basing their opinion on self-righteous indignation rather than actual facts?

                                                  [–]Ice_tail 104ポイント105ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                  Pics got detailed, should we ban that too, or the millions of other subs that got derailed as well?

                                                  [–]rutefoot 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  After the initial sub got banned people started creating alternatives as a kind of "fuck you" to the admins. One by one they got removed. They then started getting creative with their names and hijacked the whale watching subreddit. At first glance it appeared to be yet another subreddit for circumventing the ban and was banned as well. It wasn't banned for its content so it's not really some kind of slippery slope.

                                                  So, it's unlikely there will be another innocent subreddit with a name that also is slang for a fat person that gets overrun by people trying to turn it into a political statement. If there was, the admins already admitted they fucked up in this case and will likely be much more cautious now

                                                  [–]Zlibservacratican 148ポイント149ポイント  (22子コメント)

                                                  More like another case of reddit admins going after entire communities rather than individual bad actors.

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                                                      [–]HoboMcJoe 76ポイント77ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                      https://web.archive.org/web/20150611052847/http://www.reddit.com/r/whalewatching
                                                      Definitely derailed.

                                                      [–]Smagjus 53ポイント54ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Additionally the subreddit was dead for 2 years before that.

                                                      [–]fckingmiracles 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      After the fall of r/fatpeoplehate i created a new haven for shitlordes; (r/)orbitalmechanics
                                                      .
                                                      (r/)RotundResentment is also available for shitlordes to unite!
                                                      .
                                                      + threads with pictures of women dubbed "whales" by the participants (of course)

                                                      Thanks for providing proof. OP is a liar.

                                                      The admins saw this overtake and nipped it right in the bud.

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                                                        [–]NoOneWhere 33ポイント34ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                        Potentially.. Though a 'hostile takeover' that quick would be strange...

                                                        [–]DiaboliAdvocatus 45ポイント46ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                        /r/all was completely fucked for ages. It took Christoper Lee dying to push the FPH meltdown from the top five.

                                                        There were easily ~5k people shitposting about FPH. Taking over a dead sub wouldn't be a challenge.

                                                        [–]hugepolishsausage 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                        Christopher Lee didn't die for this!

                                                        [–]Owyn_Merrilin 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Bad news: three of the top five, including #1, are back to being about the FPH meltdown. Christopher Lee's death is sitting at $8 at the moment. And it's more than 5K, the vote totals are fudged at the high end to keep the top posts of all time list from containing posts that were upvoted by larger numbers but a smaller percentage of the population just because there's more users than there used to be.

                                                        [–]Shanman150 40ポイント41ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                        I looked at it last night and it was starting to get the FPH crowd. Lots of posts on fatties, and which subreddits had been banned, and pictures making jokes about the "whales".

                                                        [–]IAmSupernovaMod - @SupaNovaKiA 57ポイント58ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                        They got control of the sub about a year ago. Just been sitting on it. Those guys know what they're doing.

                                                        [–]Geordash 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Yes, they truly are masterminds.

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                                                            [–]TheJester220 106ポイント107ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                            /r/punchablefaces is now private. Mods were shadowbanned.

                                                            [–]redditgoogle 26ポイント27ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                            I think you might be wrong. Here's a screenshot pre going private.
                                                            It seems none of the mods have been shadowbanned.

                                                            EDIT: The its the mods of FPH who were also Punchablefaces mods were banned

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                                                              [–]DonQuixoteLaMancha 570ポイント571ポイント  (32子コメント)

                                                              I doubt that'll be the last innocent casualty in this war.

                                                              [–]Jbones159 303ポイント304ポイント  (24子コメント)

                                                              Where were you the day /r/whalewatching died?

                                                              [–]dragonofthwest 185ポイント186ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                                              /r/whalewatching is kill

                                                              [–]Khumalo_Neurochem 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              Where were you the day /r/whalewatching died?

                                                              I was down at levy before it ran dry.

                                                              [–]Deceptichum 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                              So bye, bye miss Ellen Pao. Took my post to the voat but the server was die.

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                                                                [–]apriori12 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                "Innocent casualty in this war." I don't agree with Pao or the admins either but all this melodrama is fucking hilarious.

                                                                [–]37_types_of_tea 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Well it was an inactive sub that got taken over by /r/fatpeoplehate, I'd say it's not really the admins' fault.

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                                                                  [–]Cross_of_Coronado 36ポイント37ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                  Fuck you Dolphin! Fuck you Whale!

                                                                  [–]DontBeThatGuyBrobelieves #GGinDC was 'a hit on themselves' 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                  Not really, it's a dead sub which is obvious and closed because of people hijacking it like they have of other subreddits the past day.

                                                                  [–]jofus_joefucker 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                  2/3 of their entire community that are subbed are mods. Why does a super small sub like that need 10 mods....

                                                                  [–]ArkAngel06 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Probably just a bunch of friends that are actual whale watchers/enthusiasts.

                                                                  [–]YosharianWalks around backward with his sword on his hip 102ポイント103ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                  No... This is a joke, right?

                                                                  Surely they didn't ban it just because the title looked vaguely suspicious...

                                                                  Edit: Apparently it was 'taken over' by fatpeoplehate moderators or something? Anyway there's more to this story than first meets the eye, but it's still a bit ridiculous.

                                                                  [–]ScoobyDoo11 71ポイント72ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                  This title is complete sensationalist clickbait garbage.

                                                                  /r/whalewatchers had a grand total of three... THREE actual whale-watching posts that hadn't been posted in TWO YEARS. The rest of the posts were all anti-fat posts that FPH had taken over. OP is literally cancer.

                                                                  Source: Someone who actually saw /r/whalewatching while it is up and is not a blind sheep

                                                                  [–]YosharianWalks around backward with his sword on his hip 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  LMAO

                                                                  [–]ManMadeGod 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  At this point people are just desperate to get out their pitchforks and join in with this nonsense because their lives are just that boring I guess.

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                                                                    [–]Arkonisas 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                    Admins confirmed whale haters

                                                                    [–]One_bad_escapist 195ポイント196ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                                                    Holy shit. Really? Are you kidding me? This... this can't be real...

                                                                    Just... How the fuck is anyone supposed to trust these fucking admins to enforce their own self-imposed rules correctly now? This is a gigantic fuck up. And I think the reddit admins just proved to everyone that they're fucking stupid.

                                                                    Any slight guise of these fools being professionals has been completely lost now. What the fuck else needs to be said about this absurdity? "Banning a sub of literal whale watching for harassment"..... bahahahaha!

                                                                    EDIT: So the full story of this, from what I understand, is that ex mods of FPH moved into whale-watching and took control of it. Thus, in the eyes of the admins, necessitating a ban (Although the sub appears to be back but 'private' now)

                                                                    Personally, I didn't even know it was possible for such a thing to even happen. But at the very least, it makes sense given the admins behavior of attempting to keep these subs off the site for good.

                                                                    [–]Celestina_ 184ポイント185ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                    This is a gigantic fuck up

                                                                    It had 15 subscribers

                                                                    [–]One_bad_escapist 47ポイント48ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                    I think that was irrelevant to the initial story. But the story is different now that I see that the ex-mods of FPH had taken the sub over, it's clear I misunderstood this ordeal.

                                                                    [–]ApplicableSongLyricWe provide... leverage. 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                    It proves intentionally creating false flags in communities could work to rile up the userbase.

                                                                    It's a fuck up.

                                                                    [–]marithefrancois 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                    2 years ago...

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                                                                        [–]botsecks 216ポイント217ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                        Assholes

                                                                        http://i.imgur.com/ocIwrGj.jpg

                                                                        [–]CongenoRule #1: LISTEN & BELIEVE 145ポイント146ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                        This is fucking treat.

                                                                        EDIT: Shared this to /r/SubredditCancer

                                                                        [–]Vhett 71ポイント72ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                                                        Has nobody actually gone to /r/whalewatching? It's not banned, it went private.

                                                                        [–]youfuckmymother 61ポイント62ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                        It may have been banned then unbanned and set to private by the mods of the subreddit.

                                                                        [–]evolsteve 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                        ... and probably for good reason. I bet it's back open in less than a week.

                                                                        [–]Predicted 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                        I imagine that sub got invaded pretty hard.

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                                                                          [–]BrittlethreadConfirmed Illuminati 43ポイント44ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                          Wait... it says private not banned. Did the OP misread or did Reddit notice the spaghetti they dropped and decided to sweep it under the rug?

                                                                          EDIT: Just found proof that r/whalewatching was indeed co-opted by r/fatpeoplehate: https://archive.is/5LxLK (edit: replaced web.archive link with archive.is)

                                                                          Click on the top post to see the image that was linked.

                                                                          We should probably take back our accusation for this one. I apologize, we jumped to conclusions too quickly.

                                                                          [–]UnsuitableReply 52ポイント53ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                          FPH mods took control of it. It had to go. https://archive.is/SuBjH

                                                                          [–]Gazareth 27ポイント28ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                          So they are just banning every subreddit associated with certain people...

                                                                          Why not just ban those people?

                                                                          [–]No-Shit-Sherlock 39ポイント40ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                          The submitted cached snapshot of the subreddit is extremely misleading since it shows only actual whale watching submissions from years ago... but Google did manage to cache some of the more recent posts after the subreddit was taken over by fatpeoplehate supporters but before the subreddit was banned and it was quite clearly being used for spamming fatpeoplehate crap to /r/all. E.g. I'm unsure what kind of whale this is. (ctrl-f imgur to see the actual submission and comments).

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                                                                            [–]raffastafarian 36ポイント37ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                            Banning actions not ideas.
                                                                            Banning actions not ideas.
                                                                            Banning actions not ideas.
                                                                            Banning actions not ideas.
                                                                            Banning actions not ideas.
                                                                            Banning actions not ideas.
                                                                            Banning actions not ideas.
                                                                            Banning actions not ideas.

                                                                            [–]Inverno_MutoFlipped the bitch switch 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                            It's about creating SafSpas from Reddit ++ungood behavior.

                                                                            [–]shutdownMPLS 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                            Fuck you, Pao. You are a fickle piece of shit with an myopic agenda unbecoming of what Reddit has always stood for - democracy. What an atrocious decision it was to hire you. And fuck you admins for making me feel this way about a site that I've loved dearly for so long.

                                                                            [–]lagspike [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                                            Muh feelings!

                                                                            Its astounding the lengths people will go to, to get offended yet they wont try AT ALL to exercise.

                                                                            Incredible.

                                                                            [–]Crabcakes125 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                            Now I'm no expert, but you should probably LOOK at the subreddits before you ban them, just a thought.

                                                                            [–]1v1meinminecraft 38ポイント39ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                            It's because they ban behavior, not ideas. It makes sense if you don't think about it.

                                                                            [–]dragon_nipples [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                                            People should realize now that they are banning ideas, and not behavior.

                                                                            They have shadow banned all mods of /r/fatpeoplehate and have shadow banned all mods of the FPH clones.

                                                                            These subs haven't harassed anyone, they haven't broken any rules. They were banned within a hour of creation.

                                                                            this should shut down the false narrative the admins pushed that it was over behavior. They banned FPH because it got to big and posts were appearing on /r/all. They have provided ZERO evidence why the sub was banned instead of warned, select members being banned, instead of a sub ban. ZERO transparency.

                                                                            FPH never harassed anyone. How can they be harassing people by taking a public picture of the team, with no names on it, and the only writing a caption reading 'even their dog is fat.' Nobody name was released, NP was banned, names whether they be real or screen names were always blacked out.

                                                                            FPH even created their own imgur, there was no harassment.

                                                                            Now any meme involving a fat person carries the possibility of being banned.

                                                                            Do you now see the dangerous precedent this starts for reddit? Don't believe the false narrative SRS admins and chairman Pao is trying to sell you. if a sub of 150k can just be deleted, nobody is safe from the SJW narrative.

                                                                            [–]LinkProviderBot 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                            And now you see why the community prefers a hands-off approach. I don't like hateful subs personally but once you start dictating what's acceptable and what isn't, you end up with a lot of arbitrary bans and people abusing their power to suit their own ideology.

                                                                            [–]IAmSupernovaMod - @SupaNovaKiA[M] 615ポイント616ポイント  (251子コメント)

                                                                            This thread is misleading. That sub is not an innocent whale watching sub. It was used in parlay with the fph fiasco. Don't be fooled by this post.

                                                                            Edit: I was also incorrect. It appears the sub was only being used for whale pictures up until last night when it got flooded with some FPH type posts. It wasn't done by the current mods of that subreddit though. They just got caught in the crossfire like many other subs.

                                                                            Edit2: the sub is no longer banned and is set to private. The admin below explains the situation.

                                                                            [–]matthewhaleSurvived #GGinDC 2015 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                            It's gone private now.

                                                                            [–]MrTastix 493ポイント494ポイント  (31子コメント)

                                                                            That doesn't really explain much.

                                                                            A lot of FPH fanboys bombarded subs like /r/pics and /r/punchablefaces in outrage over what happened to their own sub. Claiming those were "in parlay" is not just disingenuous, it'd be completely inaccurate.

                                                                            So the question remains: Is /r/whalewatching a victim or actually in cahoots and is there proof?

                                                                            [–]IAmSupernovaMod - @SupaNovaKiA 82ポイント83ポイント  (23子コメント)

                                                                            Look at the modlist in that archive.

                                                                            This takes literally 1 second worth of research.

                                                                            [–]BandageBandolier 55ポイント56ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                            Soooo.... Yep, those some... random names? Is that supposed to mean something on its own?

                                                                            Or is this one second research supposed to be in addition to hours of learning nobody mods on reddit to recognise who they are?

                                                                            I mean maybe in addition to the 1 second research and 15 seconds to tag the topic "misleading" it might have been useful to spend another 30 seconds writing a better explanation than this cryptic "Look at the signs people!" bullshit?

                                                                            [–]WrenBoy 31ポイント32ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                            Two of them are former kia mods who moderated subs considered so extreme that it would be in kias interest that they didn't mod this place.

                                                                            /u/goatsac and /u/28danslater to be precise.

                                                                            They are also 100 sub power mod assholes whose ego forbids their usernames to he invoked without showing up.

                                                                            Kind of like shitlord versions of /u/forestl.

                                                                            Hi guys.

                                                                            [–]Forestl 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                            Yeah, I don't know how the warriors can shut down LeBron. He's playing at such a high level right now, and is totally controlling the pace of the game.

                                                                            [–]WrenBoy 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                            You were supposed to show up after the other two. Reason #1029 why I will never be elected to grand master of the Illuminati.

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                                                                              [–]IAmSupernovaMod - @SupaNovaKiA 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                              I mod lots of Shitlord subs with those guys. They're trolling and having some fun with the fph ordeal. They've been sitting on that sub for a while now.

                                                                              [–]BandageBandolier 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                              Alright, way more helpful.

                                                                              Now that it's private it's kinda hard to find out but I'm guessing they picked it up through subreddit requests at some point after that archive and the general tone changed before the FPH ban and subsequent co-option?

                                                                              Because that still feels mighty close to guilt purely by association if not.

                                                                              [–]GrampappyJoe 72ポイント73ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                              I'm looking at that list, what am I supposed to be seeing.

                                                                              [–]jesuslovesmeslowly 52ポイント53ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                              The modlist seems a bit too big for that inactive of a sub, so it is pretty suspicious. I don't see any of the mods I'm familiar with being on FPH, though, so saying they're obviously in cahoots seems far-fetched so far.

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                                                                                [–]Lithovore 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                This takes literally 1 second worth of research

                                                                                This is how much time reddit mods put into banning entire subs! 1 second of research!

                                                                                much fair, so minority, such safe!

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                                                                                  [–]ggburner23 16ポイント17ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                  I suspected as much. Using an archive of the sub doesn't show what it looked like after the flood of fph subscribers.

                                                                                  [–]rickdg 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                  So the link is a fake?

                                                                                  [–]enchntex 13ポイント14ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                                  Not sure what you mean by "in parlay" but ok.

                                                                                  [–]Ternial 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                  What did the mods do? DId they just get overwhelmed by the hate?

                                                                                  [–]Ocrasorm[A] 238ポイント239ポイント x2 (156子コメント)

                                                                                  That was actually my bad. I accidentally banned the subreddit.

                                                                                  I thought it was just a FPH clone. One of their mods got onto me and I unbanned it.

                                                                                  While there has been some posts from the FPH fallout, I can see it predated that and was legitimated used to post whale pictures.

                                                                                  Sorry about that.

                                                                                  [–]Redplushie 236ポイント237ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                  What does Reddit HQ look like right now? Is everything on fire?

                                                                                  [–]TheHat2 50ポイント51ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                  Well this is the funniest report I've ever seen.

                                                                                  [–]WrenBoy 103ポイント104ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                                  Why was /r/neogafinaction banned exactly?

                                                                                  [–]SuperBattleFranky37 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                  is there a plan to continue banning "distasteful" subreddits in the future? namely, coontown, rapingwomen, beatingwomen, sexyabortions, and the like? because otherwise this all just seems so arbitrary.

                                                                                  [–]EnigmaticTortoise 23ポイント24ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                  Maybe if you had just allowed a FPH clone to exist without frontpage visibility, you wouldn't be playing whackamole with hundreds of them.

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                                                                                      [–]StayingOccupied 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                      It's almost as if people are reporting subs for harassment to see how lazy the admins are and sitting back and profiting. Weird.

                                                                                      [–]bat32391 72ポイント73ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                      Congrats admins, you're a bunch of fucking retards.

                                                                                      Edit: Looks like the admins fixed it.

                                                                                      [–]Beernard 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                      This is hilariously stupid.

                                                                                      [–]Leosit [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                                                                      There were a lot of comments popping up in that subreddit about fat people, which is why it got banned probably.

                                                                                      People whoring for kharma and gold are basically posting pictures of fat people everywhere not knowing where they post it, just that it seems to give free gold and kharma.

                                                                                      Also, probably an unpopular opinion, but usually when a video about some kid getting bullied pops up on reddit, 90% of people basically want to kill the bully. But now that a subreddit full of bullies got banned? There is fucking mayhem. People are hypocrites.

                                                                                      [–]electroplankton [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                                      This is some /r/nottheonion shit right here

                                                                                      [–]SuaveRico [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                                      This is fucking hilarious. Hehehehe

                                                                                      [–]-Buzz--Killington-Misogoracisphobic Terror Campaign Leader 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                      I've been saying this is what we needed to call posts about randi harper..

                                                                                      Fucking reddit admins suck at this game.

                                                                                      [–]UberAndrew 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                      "Banning behavior not ideas" my ass.

                                                                                      They've fucked up big time and are only making things worse.

                                                                                      [–]TimetravelerKihot MILF in your area - chat now! no login required! 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                      LOL

                                                                                      [–]motherbrain111 23ポイント24ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                      HAHA. The Pao train is already derailing.

                                                                                      [–]-Buzz--Killington-Misogoracisphobic Terror Campaign Leader 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                      The crazy train keeps going until it runs out of track my dear shitlord.

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                                                                                        [–]BlutargA riot of fabulousness! 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                        People who censor things are idiots.

                                                                                        [–]Hypnoflow 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                        It was derailed by this whole "hating fat people" circlejerk. Fucking A. I'm actually mad about this because, before, it actually was about observing cetaceans. Then people had to continue the "jerkle of life" and overran the place.

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