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[–]Thecandymaker 368ポイント369ポイント  (10子コメント)

So this is what happens after the button stops.

[–]RZgamer 357ポイント358ポイント  (17子コメント)

FYI, this is now the 11 12 7 4 5 13 20 9 7 4 6th most controversial post of all time (according to Reddit's algorithm).

Edit: God damn, just pick a spot and stay there

[–]youareinthematrix 4392ポイント4393ポイント  (568子コメント)

I predict this isn't going to go down well.

[–]Raysharp 1910ポイント1911ポイント  (231子コメント)

For everyone who is wondering, these are the banned subreddits.

/r/fatpeoplehate(150k+)

/r/hamplanethatred (3071)

/r/transfags (149)

/r/neofag (1239)

/r/shitniggerssay (219)

credit to /u/ekjp

Edit: added fatpeoplehate. Thanks /u/The_White_Baron, I didn't think to originally. Good call.

edit 2: I only posted this because at the time (about ten minutes after original post) they didn't have the link to the list on the post. Feel free to ignore as this is no longer relevant.

edit 3: I should point out that the 150k+ number is a claim from another user. I took his word, but I didn't ever visit the sub myself and therefore have no reliable way of telling you the real number they had.

edit 4: added fatpersonhate

edit 5: removed fatpersonhate. It was already banned.

edit 6: I'm no longer going to edit this comment with updates on the subsequent subreddit bans. Anyone who wants to raise awareness on more bans should feel free to comment on their own. Have a great day everyone!

[–]oodni 532ポイント533ポイント  (80子コメント)

Went to click on neofag to see what it was about. 404'd then doh'd. Ofcourse it wont work. Lol

[–]2birds1bone 331ポイント332ポイント  (74子コメント)

It was a sub dedicated to making fun of members of a gaming forum called NeoGAF.

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_MICROWAVE 630ポイント631ポイント  (13子コメント)

As a Jets fan, I want /r/Patriots banned for harassing and assaulting my team 2 times a season for the last 10+ fucking years.

[–]SilvanestitheErudite 4951ポイント4952ポイント x2 (1423子コメント)

Is there going to be transparency as to how subreddits are determined to be harrasing?

[–]80lbsdown 2124ポイント2125ポイント  (133子コメント)

There is a subreddit called /r/SlutJustice that just links to various /r/relationships posts and encourages brigading of users they decide are "slutty." I'm all for stopping harassment, but let's not pretend that /r/fatpeoplehate is the worst of reddit.

Edit: Here is a link to a thread where a woman attempts to defend herself after her post gets brigaded by people declaring her a slut.

[–]Herp_McDerp 4447ポイント4448ポイント x2 (551子コメント)

Whichever group is the loudest will get their way

[–]WEIGHED 3392ポイント3393ポイント x2 (321子コメント)

Too bad the girls over in /r/CuteFemaleCorpses can't shout as loud as fat people...

[–]beard_the_fuck_up 2271ポイント2272ポイント  (232子コメント)

/r/CuteFemaleCorpses

or literally any of the subreddits in their sidebar.

Edit: not my personal opinions, just the sidebar of /r/CuteFemaleCorpses. WPD is a subreddit I have been to before. It does not harass anyone.

Edit 2: Again, i'm not saying these should be banned. What I'm saying is the admins of reddit think making fun of fat people (or at least being satirical about it) is worse than raping dead corpses, killing women, burning kids, hurting animals, and watching people die.

[–]Sandflapjack 1558ポイント1559ポイント  (61子コメント)

ah yes a list of subs that will forever stay blue

[–]Tylenol_Creator 621ポイント622ポイント  (40子コメント)

What you just did:

http://i.imgur.com/ZQHN2gS.png

[–]icanhasreclaims 75ポイント76ポイント  (17子コメント)

There's merit in keeping the masses of a bigoted community segregated in a way that allows open discussion. With this new decision, the backlash will be in the form of a vehement spillover into the subreddits that were once able to defend against trolling. Reddit cannot quantify how strong the retaliation issue will become and the man-hours needed to resolve those issues.

I mentioned this in response to another comment on this thread, and your infographic paints the picture very well.

[–]GoonerPete 1138ポイント1139ポイント  (52子コメント)

I think Notch hit it right on the head https://twitter.com/notch/status/608706518972788736

[–]TweetsInCommentsBot 758ポイント759ポイント  (13子コメント)

@notch

2015-06-10 18:45 UTC

I'm overweight and was frequently offended by FPH on Reddit, so I blocked it. It being banned is ridiculous.


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[–]Kardest 186ポイント187ポイント  (12子コメント)

I was reminded of this quote.

There are two knobs on the radio! One of them turns the radio OFF, and the other one changes the station.

It's called freedom of choice, and it's one of the principles this country was founded upon. Look it up in the library, reverend, if you have any of them left when you've finished burning all the books.

-George Carlin

Censorship is never the right response to haters and idiots. It just makes them scream louder.

[–]TotesMessenger 1841ポイント1842ポイント  (168子コメント)

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[–]shinydragonite 1506ポイント1507ポイント  (12子コメント)

Better call wifebot, you're gonna be working overtime tonight, Totes.

[–]Sento_Fernner 306ポイント307ポイント  (10子コメント)

That is the largest Totes post I've ever seen.

[–]justcool393 37ポイント38ポイント  (8子コメント)

I think I'm going to have to make it so it takes up less room if there are a lot of subreddits.

[–]Sento_Fernner 75ポイント76ポイント  (5子コメント)

Honestly, in this case, I enjoy it taking up a whole screen. Adds a bit of gravity to the situation.

As per normal use, I completely agree.

[–]Georgy_K_Zhukov 592ポイント593ポイント  (26子コメント)

Are you ok there Totes? I hope they pay you overtime.

[–]TotesMessenger 955ポイント956ポイント  (7子コメント)

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[–]justcool393 272ポイント273ポイント  (13子コメント)

[TotesMessenger mod, speaking officially]

We do pay him overtime. Benefits are always included and we believe that bots rights are very important in this day and age. :D

[–]Dillstroyer 123ポイント124ポイント  (16子コメント)

Jesus Christ, this is going down in Reddit history.

[–]pickle-in-a-cup 490ポイント491ポイント  (11子コメント)

"to protect privacy and free expression"

ayyy lmao

[–]SemiNation 890ポイント891ポイント  (11子コメント)

Please keep the feedback coming

Why should we, you clearly have your own agenda and don't care about all the feedback you're being given so far.

[–]TheSilence13 763ポイント764ポイント  (43子コメント)

7k+ comments with a 0 score. THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING

[–]serialstitcher 2004ポイント2005ポイント  (76子コメント)

There is a zero percent chance you will ban /r/ShitRedditSays and they are infamous for vote brigading, nasty PMs and various other forms of harassment, up to and including getting people fired from their jobs for perceived transgressions against various minorities.

Fuck this policy. I was not a huge fan of fatpeoplehate, but I had never heard a single thing about them extending their reach outside of their own subreddit to harass people

What does "safe space" even mean? Please define that term so the community can have a real discussion about it instead of using it as a bullshit vague coverall for anything that hurts peoples feelings.

Does it mean that if somebody accidentally clicks on a "mean" subreddit their fee fees are so triggered that they must remain on the page and suffer?

[–]Ungreat 280ポイント281ポイント  (12子コメント)

What does "safe space" even mean?

Probably cutting out the weird and nasty to make the site palatable to advertisers. Problem is the weird and nasty is a large part of this site.

[–]restatic 196ポイント197ポイント  (5子コメント)

Safe space means a safe space for advertising, not people.

[–]ExplodingJesus 2168ポイント2169ポイント  (101子コメント)

This is a hole with no bottom. Admins will now be fielding non-stop requests from person "x" because sub "y" offended them somehow and they will try to spin it as harassment.

Example: every person ITT asking what about this or that sub.

[–]newtothelyte 1074ポイント1075ポイント  (82子コメント)

Silly admins. Don't you understand your userbase?

You really think you're going to stop those people from having their sub? Now you've turned them against you and you've pissed them off. Now they will stop at nothing to have their message heard. There are now over 10 subs dedicated to fat people hate

[–]duffman489585 261ポイント262ポイント  (18子コメント)

The idea is to monetize reddit into an unoffensive cash cow for native advertisers. It's been a steady march this direction. Ideals vs. big money is a hard fucking fight.

[–]lamabaronvonawesome 174ポイント175ポイント  (2子コメント)

/r/cats has to go, I am from /r/dogs, also anything with peanut-butter in it. It kills kids.

[–]TinyEarl 1164ポイント1165ポイント  (42子コメント)

> we're banning behavior

> shitredditsays not banned

hmmmmmmmmm

edit: this comment tracking FPH-related bans was just removed by the mods, and the user that posted it has been soft-banned from this sub (all their comments in this sub get spam filtered, but they don't get a ban notification).

[–]xXNuclearTacoXx 1073ポイント1074ポイント  (56子コメント)

Turn on your adblock and stop buying gold.

Edit: I have never recieved gold.. never wanted gold. Really?

[–]duffman489585 180ポイント181ポイント  (14子コメント)

Or move to voat whenever they get new servers to handle the reddit ship jump of death.

[–]ttifiblog 2612ポイント2613ポイント  (107子コメント)

It was just a matter of time, wasn't it? I can't say I liked any of the 5 banned subs, but seems like freedom of expression shouldn't be banned.

What's next? /r/news gets banned for pointing out how the CEO is blackmailing her old company to pay for her husband's ponzi scheme debts?

edit: Please don't buy gold. In fact, no one should buy gold until Pao is gone.

https://www.change.org/p/ellen-k-pao-step-down-as-ceo-of-reddit-inc

[–]DrZack 1569ポイント1570ポイント x3 (40子コメント)

"Front page of the internet" campaigning against internet censorship while simultaneously banning subreddits that offend you. SHAME ON YOU. If you find a subreddit offensive, don't go on it. I didn't like the subreddit, but that's no reason to ban it.

Thought about buying gold/turning off adblock to support reddit but no more. I vote with my $$ and reddit does not get my vote. Honestly, fuck you mods

EDIT: And don't buy me fucking gold and make sure to turn on adblock. I can only hope that the number of people turning on adblock because of this post loses reddit more money than the gold I got today. Good riddance

[–]caribou16 1636ポイント1637ポイント x3 (75子コメント)

Just canceled my reoccurring gold membership.

[–]XT3015 548ポイント549ポイント  (48子コメント)

I like how you got gold for that.

(But seriously, I think Reddit has run it's course)

edit: xfiles theme song

[–]MacHaggis 208ポイント209ポイント  (0子コメント)

"cancelling your subscription? YOU WILL HAVE GOLD, LIKE IT OR NOT."

[–]luciferoverlondon 276ポイント277ポイント  (9子コメント)

Ellen Pao needs to go have a little chat with Kevin Rose, and see how well doing shit like this worked out for Digg.

[–]RTE2FM 2259ポイント2260ポイント x2 (177子コメント)

[–]remzem 544ポイント545ポイント  (73子コメント)

Looks like their traffic increased so much after this announcement that their site is down hah

[–]6ThirtyFeb7th2036 624ポイント625ポイント  (63子コメント)

Exactly what happened to Reddit after Digg changed their business model to "utter shit".

[–]well_golly 426ポイント427ポイント  (41子コメント)

Damn. Ellen Pao will be remembered for the collapse of Reddit, and she won't even score any points for originality because it's all been done before.

Which brings me to the real question: Will Ellen Pao even be remembered at all?

[–][deleted] 50ポイント51ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't worry about that, she'll be immortalized in the public record after her bankruptcy hearing

[–]AustNerevar 1122ポイント1123ポイント  (38子コメント)

/r/neofag was a non-brigading, non-harassment sub that focused on the anti-GamerGate site Neogaf. It had absolutely no reason to be banned, yet garbage like shitredditsays and subredditdrama remain.

I'm getting so sick of this biased, safe-space bullshit. I have no sympathy for the users of /r/fatpeoplehate, but I don't believe in censorship. You guys aren't even trying to hide it now...if you go to the FPH subreddit, it says it's been removed to "keep people safe". I can assure you that no subreddit has ever made me feel unsafe, even when I've people pestering me inbox messages I didn't want.

What happened to the Reddit that supported the blacklisting of SOPA? I guess you guys sold out.

www.voat.co

[–]testtheid 48ポイント49ポイント  (5子コメント)

I think voat.co is getting hugged to death right now. Today is the best thing that ever happened to them.

[–]zomgwtfbbq 68ポイント69ポイント  (0子コメント)

The other subs that they banned are tiny in comparison to FPH. They just randomly chose some other subs in a pathetic attempt to mask their blatant hatred for FPH. Stupid all around.

[–]henkile 120ポイント121ポイント  (5子コメント)

What happend to this?

"Reddit's general manager Erik Martin noted that 'having to stomach occasional troll reddits like /r/picsofdeadkids or morally questionable reddits like /r/jailbait are part of the price of free speech on a site like this,' and that it is not Reddit's place to censor its users"

[–]Rebootkid 2406ポイント2407ポイント  (156子コメント)

As much as I dislike the content in FPH, I dislike censorship MUCH more.

FPH was supposedly banned for violating the reddit rule of "Keeping everyone safe." That rule says, "You agree to not intentionally jeopardize the health and safety of others or yourself."

You're going to need to explain exactly how they were violating that rule, because I saw none of it happening.

The people who were discussed are jeopardizing their own health and safety.

This is censorship plain and simple.

[–]upboatsallaround 710ポイント711ポイント  (18子コメント)

"You agree to not intentionally jeopardize the health and safety of others or yourself."

Sounds like they should ban /r/HAES or /r/thinspo if that's their true goal.

[–]Theoreticalwriter 64ポイント65ポイント  (4子コメント)

[–]DoctorThackery 45ポイント46ポイント  (2子コメント)

lol
"On this subreddit there is no such thing as 'too big'. The bigger the better, no matter how big that is.
There is, however, such a thing as too small. 325lbs (technical minimum weight for SSBBW/BHM) is an acceptable minimum, but we are keeping the 450lb desired minimum in place..."

[–]Moudy90 142ポイント143ポイント  (15子コメント)

Absolutely and they made Damn sure that any, any little identifying info was removed from posts.

[–]flossdaily 4234ポイント4235ポイント x4 (268子コメント)

This was an incredibly bad business decision for the following reason:

When you were not banning any subreddits, you could make the legal claim that you were an open, public forum, and that you were not liable for the user generated content on the site.

Now, you've taken the step of actively censoring content. Therefore it can argued that ANY significant subreddit that you haven't banned is operating with your knowledge, approval, and cooperation.

So you shut down a subreddit that hates on fat people, but you left up the overtly racist subreddits that made national headlines several months ago?

Mashable, Gawker, Salon, Dailykos, The Independent, etc... are all major publications that over a span of months have called out reddit for allowing racist subreddits to thrive. Their arguments were all moot until today.

This policy would have been a huge legal misstep even if handled appropriately. But this sloppy execution makes the responsible administrators look embarrassingly ignorant or incompetent at best, and overtly racist at worst.

[–]cynoclast 979ポイント980ポイント  (51子コメント)

This was an incredibly stupid business decision for the following reason:

Well, she has a history of those:

“We come up with an offer that we think is fair,” Pao said. “If you want more equity, we’ll let you swap a little bit of your cash salary for equity, but we aren’t going to reward people who are better negotiators with more compensation.”

[–]TLATER 212ポイント213ポイント  (22子コメント)

Wait... She's trying to promote gender equality by stating that women are inherently worse at arguing, and should be treated as such?

Well, let's fire all women in high positions then, they can't do their job. How should a female CEO be able to handle negotiations with other companies when she can't argue?

[–]tbk 406ポイント407ポイント  (12子コメント)

Well that's a good way to keep anyone with experience from working at your company. So instead of training her staff to not discriminate based on gender she's just banning an incredibly common practice that ensures experienced prospective employees feel valued and respected.

[–]ultraRightWing 487ポイント488ポイント  (8子コメント)

Guess it is time for everyone to move to voat.co.

[–]misinformed66 26ポイント27ポイント  (0子コメント)

How is SRS, a subreddit found to be the most toxic subreddit by an outside source still here?

SRS routinely brigades people, and harasses users and yet here it is. Still around.

[–]elerium2 25ポイント26ポイント  (2子コメント)

So why isn't /r/ShitRedditSays/ banned? They are the most vile cesspool of hatred on reddit.

[–]digitalpizza 2717ポイント2718ポイント x2 (144子コメント)

How us /r/fatpeoplehate any different from /r/cringe or /r/CringeAnarchy/? They ridicule people just as much. Should ban those too if you're gonna ban fatpeoplehate

[–]Emazinng 4690ポイント4691ポイント x7 (376子コメント)

Yishan Wong, the site's former CEO, has stated that "We stand for free speech. This means we are not going to ban distasteful subreddits. We will not ban legal content even if we find it odious or if we personally condemn it."

So much for that

[–]frankenmine 3375ポイント3376ポイント  (187子コメント)

/r/ShitRedditSays has brigaded and harassed subreddits for as long as it's existed.

Its slogan is Bring Reddit Down, for fuck's sake.

Why haven't you banned it yet?

[–]altshiftM 463ポイント464ポイント  (16子コメント)

Arent some former admins now moderators there? If so, then that would explain a few things.

[–]akatherder 236ポイント237ポイント  (13子コメント)

Top post right now implies they had a hand in bombing FPH so of course they won't be banned.

"[META] The cabal scores a major victory as FatPeopleHate and other harassing subs are banned!"

http://np.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/39bqyc/meta_the_cabal_scores_a_major_victory_as/

[–]jwshyy 1512ポイント1513ポイント  (27子コメント)

By the same vein, /r/ShitRedditSays should be banned too

[–]Ichigowins 635ポイント636ポイント  (8子コメント)

Do you really think Ellen Pao would ruin the sub of the only people who support her?

[–]peenoid 45ポイント46ポイント  (1子コメント)

In the future Reddit will be SRSers and no one else, and all the SquiRrelS will chatter away and send their scoldings off into the nether, holding but never verbalizing the thought that it was actually better in the beforetime.

[–]jwshyy 158ポイント159ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good point. The bias is very real.

[–]muhtriggurs 2695ポイント2696ポイント  (85子コメント)

Go fuck yourself Pao.

I've never seen a sub with a mod team more deeply dedicated to containing content to within the sub, preventing brigading and removing identifying information.

SRS pays it lip service, served up with a side dish of tee hee we put that rule on the sidebar so we're covered.

Ban SRS and coontown or your action today is seen as exactly what it is: fuck all to do with harassment and pandering to a specific group.

I ain't holdin' my breath.

Edit: please don't gild me again. These fuckers at Reddit don't deserve one more fucking red cent. Take that cash and give it to a homeless person, a charity, or someone in need, k? :)

[–]njbrooks 1463ポイント1464ポイント  (77子コメント)

This is a horrible and not very well though out idea, here's why.

Use /r/fatpeoplehate as example. Room full of people, door is locked, door says "Room to discuss distaste for obese people". Obviously nobody who is obese would enter that room, right? Everyone in this room loves to rail and make fun of fat people. This is good, because everyone who is fat on the outside of the room can't hear or see what they're doing. You guys over at reddit HQ say "hm, maybe we shouldn't keep all those people in the same room, talking about negative things". You say "ok!" and unlock the door and tell everyone "sorry you can't hang out in this room anymore, but you can go to any of the other rooms"

People from /r/fatpeoplehate room proceed to harass and project distaste for obese people in other rooms and in an uncontrolled manner since there is no place to talk about this without repercussion. In the end nobody is happy.

My point is, people have opinions that will offend others, but we can control the chaos by letting these people discuss those offensive opinions in a controlled environment.

Edit: Okay, the door isn't "locked". I get the hatred spread even with the subreddit open. But I do not think removing the subreddit will solve anything. This goes for all the banned subreddits, not just FPH

Thx for gold

[–]nixonrichard 3042ポイント3043ポイント  (185子コメント)

Does Mitt Romney count as an individual? Because if you're going to go down this dark path, you have a LOT of subreddits to ban.

Mitt Romney got harassed worse than anyone I've ever seen on Reddit, far worse than any fat person being harassed by /r/fatpeoplehate (which they didn't actually do).

What you're doing is setting a precedent which cannot possibly be enforced except by the caprice of Admins . . . and I think that's EXACTLY what you want.

If the subreddit was "/r/WBC_Hate" there's no way you would have banned it. You're making a choice that you care more about fat people as a group than members of the WBC (or any other group that is widely hated) and by Administrators making a personal choice as to what is supported and what is not, you're doing far more risk to Reddit than you could possibly remove by banning /r/fatpeoplehate.

I hope you realize what you're doing. I don't think you do.

[–]KnightKrawler 609ポイント610ポイント  (76子コメント)

FPH got banned because it kept hitting the front page, is my assumption.

[–]imclone 747ポイント748ポイント  (13子コメント)

It's almost like a lot of the reddit userbase liked the content

[–]taws34 894ポイント895ポイント  (43子コメント)

Funny, though, how the up and down vote buttons work... It was like more people agreed with the content than disagreed with it..

Weird.

[–]AmericanPsychonaut 888ポイント889ポイント  (25子コメント)

You hit the nail on the head. This is totally arbitrary and now admins have to ban subreddits that agree with the reddit community's views or they lose users. One problem, the community is so large and diverse that there is no consensus on what should stay or go. Every subreddit they deem is engaging in 'harassment' loses them a percentage of users.

In a less PC way of saying this, I think they're total pussies for doing this and are bending over to external pressure from advertisers. Limp dick admins.

[–]MrTwoJobs 68ポイント69ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think this makes it easier for them to stop any Ellen Pao related subreddits in the future.

[–]really_cool_name 1904ポイント1905ポイント  (46子コメント)

Today we are removing five subreddits that break our reddit rules based on their harassment of individuals.

Doesn't that mean you have to ban r/shitredditsays ?

[–]KRosen333 963ポイント964ポイント  (34子コメント)

Doesn't that mean you have to ban

No why would it mean they have to be consistent?

Besides /r/AgainstMensRights is far far worse than SRS is anyways.

[–]intellos 140ポイント141ポイント  (5子コメント)

They're both shit. SRS learned a while back that they needed to move shit off-site though, which had a side-effect of lessening their impact. Still, Meta-subs in general, even ones started with good or at least harmless intentions, will always end up going to shit. It's the Sneaky Hate Spiral in action.

I remember when SRS was actually a decent entertaining sub. Then the extremists found out about the place and didn't get the joke... ultimately leading to a classic example of Horseshoe Theory

[–]boredcentsless 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

Serously, they are against a subreddit, and they literally link to related subreddits they are also against.

[–]Cashews4U 303ポイント304ポイント  (7子コメント)

Literally one of the first rules of fatpeoplehate is "no linking to other subreddits." That sub keeps to its own and discourages and actively prevents brigading and any hint of attacking those from outside that sub. What stays in FPH stays in FPH. Total bullshit. But by all means lets keep the subs that are sexist, racist, downright disgusting and disturbing, ignorant, and so on. Nice job shitting the bed, admins.

Edit: if a child does something wrong, do you punish the child or the parents? Its not FPH's fault that some of its people went rogue and decided to do things outside the guidelines.

[–]closetshitlordette 525ポイント526ポイント  (13子コメント)

I was a subscriber to FPH. Say what you want about me, but here's the deal:

  • Unlike SRS's wink-nudge, totally insincere "no-brigade" policy, FPH's was legit. It's rules included a prohibition on linking to other parts of reddit (and such posts were automatically removed); including any personal information including person, username, or subreddit names in posts; and banning known brigaders. It regularly removed posts that broke any of these rules, and the mods routinely put up reminders not to brigade. It kept to itself.

  • This decision is not only arbitrary but unfounded. FPH blatantly did not do the things it is being accused of (harassment) while subs that actively and openly do those things remain. This leaves me and--looking through the comments--much of the rest of the community feeling as if you've just slapped us in the face with capricious censorship with blatantly insincere justifications, when the real agenda was political in nature.

  • And speaking of the real agenda, since it was political, what about all the other distasteful subs that not only harass but represent far more odious subject matter than FPH? Good job, mods: you've opened that door.

Conclusion: this is bullshit and you know it.

[–]Table_Corner 46ポイント47ポイント  (2子コメント)

So it appears that the reddit admins have now shadow banned all of the former FPH mods as well.

/u/The_Wizard_Of_Wang

/u/12_Years_A_Toucan

/u/SportyStrawberry

These are just some of the former mods that I could find.

[–]dfsac85 411ポイント412ポイント  (51子コメント)

I am glad you guys didn't delete /r/fuckolly . Because seriously, fuck that kid.

[–]thezoomaster 490ポイント491ポイント  (17子コメント)

For a website that's boasts about internet freedom and privacy so often, I'm fucking disgusted at this thinly veiled, blatant censorship. What the fuck? What happened to freedom of speech? You don't have to agree with /r/fatpeoplehate, but no one was shoving it down your throats. I'm fucking disappointed in you, admins.

[–]Davethe3rd 87ポイント88ポイント  (3子コメント)

No, the previous owner of reddit was a free-speech advocate.

The new owners are not in the slightest.

[–]Wafflenotblue 253ポイント254ポイント  (27子コメント)

might as well ban /r/pcmasterrace because they harass console users peasants

[–]evancam 199ポイント200ポイント  (8子コメント)

/u/ekjp - if the Reddit community raises the money you need to pay your husbands' legal settlements resulting from his fraudulent financial activities, will you resign and leave us alone?

Edit: I did actually go to college and take at least one English/writing class. Edit 2: I'm leaving it, messing up 'took' in this context makes me laugh.

[–]CrackheadControl 4161ポイント4162ポイント  (1470子コメント)

Why is /r/fatpeoplehate banned, but /r/coontown get to exist? That's bullshit.

[–]tichondrius 2275ポイント2276ポイント  (158子コメント)

Because making fun of fat people is worse than racism, I guess.

[–]FrankFeTched 1219ポイント1220ポイント  (34子コメント)

Well I mean it makes sense because those stupid black people that choose their race are just not hardworking nor motivated enough to change it for the better.

Some people are just born fat, how are they supposed to help it?

[–]ThealcoholicGoat 1080ポイント1081ポイント  (221子コメント)

Holy shit I haven't even heard of /r/coontown before. How is that not banned? Looks worse than FTP from those 5 minutes I browsed it.

[–]CrackheadControl 957ポイント958ポイント  (165子コメント)

There are tons of racist and misogynistic out there worse than FPH. Ever hear of /r/RapingWomen?

[–]matike 671ポイント672ポイント  (65子コメント)

Yeah, /r/beatingwomen got banned, why the fuck is /r/rapingwomen still up? I'm not about censorship at all, but come on.

[–]CrackheadControl 490ポイント491ポイント  (37子コメント)

/r/beatingwomen2 exists in its place

[–]matike 217ポイント218ポイント  (22子コメント)

Oh, great.

[–]twoscoop 171ポイント172ポイント  (19子コメント)

Banning subs is a un win-able war. It is like trying to stop people from eating a burrito in a car without using your hands on the wheel, people are still going to eat that fucking burrito.

source: Holy shit, i've seen at least 5 people this week eating a burrito going up my street.

I get ham burgers, sandwiches, apples, a fucking burrito... The burritos are bigger than their heads.

[–]AssuredlyAThrowAway 167ポイント168ポイント  (1子コメント)

Lol.

You had to sticky this thread because it got downvoted below the threshold. No one will ever see this announcement on the default front page or /r/all.

Yo /u/kn0thing, do you really know nothing about how this site works?

[–]rhycochet 108ポイント109ポイント  (26子コメント)

oh cool, you just banned /r/fatpersonhate too!
i thought you were all up on that horse claiming to ban for "behavior" and NOT "ideas."
/r/fatpersonhate is SO NEW that there's no way for any "behavior" to even qualify as bannable offense. you banned it because it carries the same IDEA as /r/fatpeoplehate. please take the lies and shove it up a fold. or two.

[–]ninjapro 749ポイント750ポイント x2 (27子コメント)

Woah. /r/fatpeoplehate (FPH) was actually banned. This seems like a crazy knee-jerk reaction.

While FPH may have been relatively circlejerky and superficially vicious, it was a subreddit where people would go expressly to vent. Very rarely would personal information be included or anyone targeted and when that does happen, generally the mods were fantastic at shooing off the post. (as a side note: the mods on FPH were some of the most active and fair mods that I had seen in a subreddit that large). FPH certainly seems far too vicious at first glance, but their bark is far, far worse than their bite.

Larger subreddits, I'll use /r/atheism as an example, have had far more targeted threads and nobody really bats an eye at that. At first glance, the top thread in /r/atheism is about a couple, who are named and pictured in the linked article, threatening to divorce if gay marriage is passed.

This is a direct, identifying piece of information. Yet, nobody's calling witchhunting, though when someone inevidently does, it's generally defended because "/r/athesim is a place where atheists can vent about the religious they run into every day."

FPH, which rarely ever posted personal information, should not be considered more harassing than specific subs which are borderline controversial. /r/funny isn't accused of harassing when there's a joke about Kayne West or Kim Kardashian; /r/pcmasterrace isn't considered harassment towards console gamers; and /r/ShitRedditSays literally targets users' comments in an attempt to brigade them. So why is FPH so specifically vilified?

TLDR: /r/fatpeoplehate is not the the only or worst harassers on the internet or even Reddit. This targeting does not seem justified.

[–]beetnemesis 205ポイント206ポイント  (18子コメント)

This seems kind of silly. By all means, ban any users who are harassing, shut down any specific posts that are encouraging doxxing, brigading, or whatever. But if they want to bitch about overweight people in their walled off area, who cares?

[–]Stalked_Like_Corn 3547ポイント3548ポイント x2 (217子コメント)

As a fat person who absolutely detests /r/fatpeoplehate to the core. This is bullshit. I've rarely seen them mentioned out in the wild so to speak and they kept it in their subreddit. The way I avoided being targeted by their subreddit was I stayed the fuck out if which is the whole point of the unsubscribe button. To NOT see things I don't want to see.

This is nothing more than just systematic reduction on edgy subreddits yet again. What i'm shocked about is that it wasn't because of bad media attention like jailbait, creepshots, and thefappening. I hate that subreddit but I stayed the fuck out of it. THat's the POINT of Reddit.

What's funny more is that creepshots is STILL back and NOTHING has been done to them to take it down because, you don't fucking care. Plain and simple, you don't fucking care. I was upset when you took down jailbait and creepshots though I didn't go into them. The fappening I never went into but I didn't like that being taken down either. Now this? Keep on Reddit admins. Keep on keeping on because You can ask Digg and Co. what happens when you push a userbase too far.

Meanwhile /r/shitredditsays keeps chugging along despite openly FLOUNTING* the rules of vote briggading. They bite their thumbs at you sir. Yet you continue to let it go on. Why?

Edit* Fixed typo. Thanks /u/rocketman0739!

[–]stolivodka_ 1103ポイント1104ポイント  (16子コメント)

Meanwhile /r/shitredditsays keeps chugging along

Probably because all of the admins are subscribers.

[–]Roark_Laughed 91ポイント92ポイント  (4子コメント)

srs is straight up cancer on this site and the fact that it was ignored over the other banned subs is ridiculous.

[–]ExplodingJesus 183ポイント184ポイント  (1子コメント)

They bite their thumbs at you sir.

This is like the first thing in this thread to not make me mad haha

[–]n1b0t 112ポイント113ポイント  (14子コメント)

yup, now they've banned the subreddit...which contained all of the hatred. Released a rabid dog into the wild, GJ admins.

[–]austin101123 132ポイント133ポイント  (10子コメント)

Was fatpeoplehate invading other places, or was it contained?

It seems as though /r/greatapes still exists.

What made fatpeoplehate considered harassing vs. greatapes? What is the qualification for being considered harassing? I hope for more transparency on this.

[–]pm_me_things_you_lov 721ポイント722ポイント  (72子コメント)

List of subreddits on the chopping block:

/r/fatpeoplehate,

/r/hamplanethatred,

/r/transfags,

/r/neofag,

/r/shitniggerssay

What about /r/coontown though? It's just straight up racism on /new all day long.

[–]deadfallpro 103ポイント104ポイント  (9子コメント)

This is all about some two-faced bullshit. They elect Chairman Pao and the whole site goes to crap. What a joke.

[–]Anjz 187ポイント188ポイント  (18子コメント)

Yishan Wong, the site's former CEO, has stated that "We stand for free speech. This means we are not going to ban distasteful subreddits. We will not ban legal content even if we find it odious or if we personally condemn it."

What the fuck? This goes against what Reddit is about.

If you start banning subreddits that you 'hate', then it will start being corporate and eventually corporations will say that they are being harassed and will be able to take down subreddits and ban users.

What's next, are we gonna get banned for saying Ellen Pao is a bad CEO for going against her words? We may as well take a one way ticket to North Korea.

This is the worst move Reddit has done, I'm terribly disappointed.

As much as I resent people for having so much hate, this is a major impediment of free speech.

[–]nsto 2765ポイント2766ポイント  (1635子コメント)

Did /r/fatpeoplehate actually harass people outside of the subreddit?

[–]icantbelieveiclicked 331ポイント332ポイント  (7子コメント)

im fat... and the only thing i can think of is fuck you.. shit people are entitled to their opinion and if you dont like fatpeoplehate then dont fucking go there..

fat people hate i totally give you credit for getting me back to the gym after 4 years and about 20 uneaten cookies

[–]1010101010101010101 144ポイント145ポイント  (4子コメント)

Slowly but surely reddit is turning into a SJW haven with the increasing censorship.

but right now, we know we need to do better and to do more.

Firing Ellen Pao would be a great start.

[–]lordofthekeks 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

The first downfall was the censorship of gamergate. Employing her was one of the biggest mistakes, and i wouldn't be suprised if most of the people on various subs move to alternative sites w/ fewer restrictions such as this shithole.

[–]Wbalmung 59ポイント60ポイント  (0子コメント)

“When you cut out a man’s tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you’re only telling the world that you fear what he might say.” -Tyrion Lannister

[–]Robert_T_Pooner 308ポイント309ポイント  (5子コメント)

This is really a troubling step IMO. The fact that only one of the banned subreddits was named, and the statement referring to adding people to "manage community issues", I am getting the signal that reddit is going to become much more restrictive in the future. I agree that direct targeting of individuals is not something that reddit should facilitate, but I get the impression that the reddit admins are going to become more and more "hands on" in terms of censorship. I'm afraid that the open internet I grew up with is not going to survive the coming decade. Perhaps I'm just being overly sensitive. I hope so.

[–]heyitsfred 65ポイント66ポイント  (1子コメント)

The one that gets me is /r/neoFAG, yes, the name has an epithet, but other than that, they were just highlighting SJW posts on an external gaming forum. There are far worse subreddits in regards to harassment which are immune to this, especially within Reddit itself. Was this a test to see if they could get away with nuking /r/KotakuInAction and /r/TumblrInAction?

[–]Cricket620 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

ITT: Ellen Pao tries to justify selective banishment of subreddits without releasing criteria on why subreddits are being banned. It does not go well.

[–]jaylittle 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

Epic Fail. Welcome to beginning of the very quick decline of reddit as a going concern.

On a side note, I'm glad Ellen has shown her true colors. I can now safely assume that Kleiner Perkins fired her for being a moron.

[–]Rudern 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

Stop being fucking SJWs. If there is a sub about beastiality, which is an actual crime most places, why the fuck are you banning people from calling out an unhealthy lifestyle. You can't campaign against censorship and then go and pull this. Hypocricy at it's finest.

[–]webgovernor 175ポイント176ポイント  (7子コメント)

Today we are removing five subreddits that break our reddit rules based on their harassment of individuals.

Translation: We are removing subreddits that harm advertising interests. This is why these subs seem arbitrarily chosen.

[–]h0bb1tm1ndtr1x 38ポイント39ポイント  (0子コメント)

So Ellen Pao is projecting her view onto Reddit now that she failed in court? Awesome...

[–]KingOCarrotFlowers 147ポイント148ポイント  (3子コメント)

If you're so concerned with preventing harassment that you're banning subreddits, you're either going to need to be seriously transparent with the rules ("these activities are okay" vs "these activities are not") or you're going to have to recognize that this is just going to end up as a popularity contest.

We've established that /r/fatpeoplehate is wrong--what if I made a subreddit that filled the exact same function, but against white people? Thin people? The LGBT community? Straight people?

What about /r/tumblrinaction, which is essentially hater hate?

Or /r/facepalm, which is "people on my facebook feed who are acting stupid" hate?

You have indicated that you're not okay with harassing subreddits, but you have failed to provide even the most vague definition of a harassing subreddit.

[–]Osairis 107ポイント108ポイント  (1子コメント)

Congrats Overlord Pao, your actions just advertised a subreddit to your entire user base that they may not have been aware of AND you've hydra'd the hell out of it... what did you think would happen? FPH could have stayed its own little corner of Reddit... now r/ALL is effectively FPH...

I, for one, welcome our Fat People Hating overlords...

[–]Kolisk 228ポイント229ポイント  (17子コメント)

This isn't an attempt to stop harrasment, this is Reddit admins paving the way for censoring anything they deem worthy.

This is bullshit, the point of having an avenue for conversation is that you can see the view of all sides of an argument. But now one side of the argument is subject to being completely silenced.

[–]JFernan4 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why isn't r/coontown banned?

[–]Ammoholic 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

/r/skinnypeoplehate ?

I must be missing the premise of removing harassing subreddits.

[–]RedSocks157 831ポイント832ポイント  (23子コメント)

Here's some feedback for you: I'm going to voat. You can take your SJW, safe-space nonsense and shove it. /u/ekjp has been changing this site for the worse since she got here, and the repeated bannings and deletions of anything talking about her bs attempts at extortion of her former employer only prove that she shouldn't be in charge of anything.

I'll probably be banned or shadowbanned for this. I don't care. I bet the reddit admin who does it will feel real good about themselves, using a tool originally meant to stop spam in order to remove anything they don't like or deem sufficiently "safe".

FPH might not have been nice, and you know what I wouldn't be that upset if these rules were being applied equally. The continued existence of SRS is a pretty clear indicator of that.

[–]waterboysh 355ポイント356ポイント  (23子コメント)

If a subreddit has been banned for harassment, you will see that in the ban notice.

When I go to /r/fatpeoplehate I do not see this. All I see is:

this subreddit has been banned

most likely this was done automatically by our spam filtering program. the program is still learning, and may even have some bugs, so if you feel the ban was a mistake, please submit a link to our request a subreddit listing and be sure to include the exact name of the subreddit.

EDIT: It's already been changed. It now says.

this subreddit has been banned

This subreddit has been banned for violating the reddit rules to keep everyone safe

Which reads like the general news we see all the time where everyone responds "Because terrorists"

[–]NotKateBush 29ポイント30ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not anymore

this subreddit has been banned

This subreddit has been banned for violating the reddit rules to keep everyone safe about

[–]2muffins 86ポイント87ポイント  (5子コメント)

The cancer is terminal. I give the site 1 year to live.

[–]CaptainReginald 554ポイント555ポイント  (8子コメント)

TIL vicious racism is fine, but hurting fat people's fee fees is banable.

Classy, Reddit.