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[–]krispykrackers[A] -192ポイント-191ポイント  (56子コメント)

Sure. We did not ban SRS because the behavior you're referring to, while definitely falling into our current definition of "harassment," happened long ago. We don't put policy into place in order to retroactively ban backlogged behavior. If their harassment becomes a problem again, we will revisit that decision, but until that happens this is where we're at.

[–]glowtape 78ポイント79ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Long ago". Right.

[–]KRosen333 63ポイント64ポイント  (4子コメント)

Sure. We did not ban SRS because the behavior you're referring to, while definitely falling into our current definition of "harassment," happened long ago. We don't put policy into place in order to retroactively ban backlogged behavior. If their harassment becomes a problem again, we will revisit that decision, but until that happens this is where we're at.

Is this the same policy that will be used against other subs as well?

My primary complaint is /r/AgainstMensRights, which do actually terrify me, given the things they've done.

Also, regarding the rules:
http://www.reddit.com/r/againstmensrights/comments/37r1xm/tell_toronto_pride_to_ban_cafe/

https://archive.is/DhGQw

This is still only about a week old, and we were under the impression that contacting groups in this way was no longer allowed. Is this against the rules or not?

Thanks.

edit: point made.

https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/39bpam/removing_harassing_subreddits/cs2bgkh

This is the shit I'm talking about. I usually keep it to PMs because I don't want to be harassed by these people, yet here we are.

[–]findingmrnemo 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

I already reported that thread and the admins did nothing about it. The admins have shown time and time again they won't do anything towards feminist subs, only in extreme cases will they as I know one person from AMR that was doxxing was shadowbanned.

[–]KRosen333 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I want a comment from the admins before I give judgement.

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    [–]DMercenary 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Plus

    Had the recent ongoing issues with harassment

    So basically its only a problem if its happening in the near past or present?

    [–]DEATH-BY-CIRCLEJERK 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I don't understand your question. He's clearly stating that a long time ago, before the admins stepped in and threatened the meta subs with being shut down if their subscribers didn't stop brigading, that the admins considered shutting down SRS. And that since that time they haven't been an issue.

    [–]keiyakins -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Did you pass first grade? "Recent" means that they're only looking at the last few weeks, not all time.

    [–]DownvotesAdminPosts 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    thx for deleting your comment /u/hezex that helps so much

    [–]DiogenesInHisJar 99ポイント100ポイント  (9子コメント)

    I was a user of fatpeoplehate almost daily, and I never once saw organized harassment of any sort. Can you describe the specific events that led up to this?

    [–]DownvotesAdminPosts 71ポイント72ポイント  (1子コメント)

    *crickets*

    [–]Volatilize 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    At this point it'd be foolish to expect anything more.

    [–]HorzaDeservedBetter 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

    On the other hand during may I saw several reports of FPH users being doxxed and (actually) harassed by people from other subs and websites (tumblr).

    [–]The_White_Baron 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I got at least three private messages from someone trying to dox me (three different people), while I posted to FPH. It wasn't several - it was an enormous amount. We frequently posted these on FPH so everyone knew.

    [–]TheOnlyOtherRedditor 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    FPH removed all links to reddit and required censoring of names and usernames, banned crossposts, coordinating attacks against other and individuals were the first comments to be deleted. It was impossible them to brigade, but it was a very popular sub of course the anti-fat sentiment is going to be naturally widespread over reddit. The worst I can think of is posting pictures of people but couldn't they have just asked them to stop that? Regardless it was impossible to trace those pictures back to an actual person.

    [–]davidd00 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The main rule was don't touch the poop... No one attacked individuals.

    Admins are fucking idiots. Fuck the admins and fuck reddit.

    You'll realize once you have 5% of your userbase left that you can't survive by playcating the sjws. Pao and her husband are going to have to run another scam to fund the site pretty soon.

    [–]JetpackRemedy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Just today I saw that they embedded a picture of the whole Imgur staff, with a caption saying something along the lines of "even the dog is fat."

    To me that seems to fit the (very) general rule of harassing individuals, and it was done by the mods.

    [–]kalasbkeo -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I've never been on fatpeoplehate, but if it's anything like what I've seen on other hate subreddits, sharing people's pictures and maybe even personal information to hate on that person can be extremely bad for that person's moral and make it so they are recognized and hated simply because some idiot thought it was funny to share their informations on the internet to mock them.

    [–]The_White_Baron 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Personal information was strictly banned. The (active) moderators made sure of that.

    [–]jebuscycle 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

    This is some serious bullshit mental gymnastics.

    [–]Number2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The concept of something not being retroactive does not require much "mental gymnastics".

    [–]aubgrad11 26ポイント27ポイント  (6子コメント)

    holy shit

    reddit has a nice run, as did digg before it

    [–]monkey_man_ 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

    So what's next? Reddit was the obvious answer when digg imploded

    [–]aubgrad11 12ポイント13ポイント  (4子コメント)

    voat.co

    EDIT: once they get their shit together that is...site has been crashing with everyone bolting reddit today

    [–]monkey_man_ 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

    voat.co got hugged to death. I wonder if the admins there keep up with reddit or were just like "WHAT THE LIVING SHIT IS HAPPENING NOW?"

    [–]PenguinsRAwesome 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    They keep up, they have a couple posts on this Reddit hug.

    [–]12_Years_A_Toucan 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah I wish voat.co was currently viable. I would have jumped there awhile ago

    [–]HULKANGRYSMASH 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Maybe you guys should lose some weight and learn to love yourselves.

    [–]Furbush 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

    SRS harasses and brigades actively and far more frequently than FPH

    you couldnt post personal information on FPH and people were poking fun at anonymous pictures of obese people. SRS literally links to people's personal reddit accounts.

    i would have never even commented on other hate subs, youre opening a can of worms.

    [–]findingmrnemo 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If their harassment becomes a problem again, we will revisit that decision, but until that happens this is where we're at.

    Why the bull? SRS users and their actions have been reported numerous times with admins not doing anything about it.

    [–]monkey_man_ 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    What a crock. They were your attack dogs when you needed a scapegoat after Anderson Cooper got on CNN and accused you people (rightly so) of peddling child porn.

    [–]Tom_Stall 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

    So essentially "harassment" only became a problem when it was done by the "wrong kind of people"?

    [–]HorzaDeservedBetter 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The kind detrimental to advertisement.

    The same reason 4chan couldn't show to many ads, companies saw the website as toxic and didn't want to be associated with it.

    Corporation are currently pandering to fatties (66% of North America), FPH being too popular on reddit means they will pay less for ads.

    [–]Treysef 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The subreddit is intended to harass people on reddit. They link all over reddit with no regard while other subreddits have admins telling them not to do that. They have been doing this for years and there hasn't been any action taken. Can you see why everyone thinks there is some impropriety here?

    [–]anhero23 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You admins have really sunk. You do realize that if your bullshit mental gymnastics don't stop, there very well may be a mass exodus to Voat?

    It happened before to digg. Don't think you fuckwads are immune.

    [–]DeathCampForCuties 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

    This response and every admin response in this thread is a fucking joke, thanks for the fun times but this site is an abomination of what it was.

    [–]zomgwtfbbq 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Abandon ship over to voat.co once the reddit refugee downtime calms down.

    [–]i11remember 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It looks like you guys just condone their behavior.

    [–]illfatedpupulon 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    how can you honestly say such bullshit like that?

    [–]Infra-roodborstje 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This is absolutely mental bullshit going on here. Are you guys THAT delusional? Or are you just fat fucks that got their fee fees hurt?

    [–]kewlbuttz 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    How about some transparency? Any.. at all. Show us the so-called "danger" lurking in FPH and the other banned subs.

    [–]ChaBeezy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You know what people like?

    Inconsistency and making it up as you go along.

    It shows what poor hands this site is in when so little consideration was given to this decision. You can't even come up with credible reasons.

    [–]na85 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Thanks.

    [–]LordBeverage 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Sure. We did not ban SRS because the behavior you're referring to, while definitely falling into our current definition of "harassment," happened long ago.

    Oh, honey...

    The nonsense is so transparent my dog almost ran through it. Just know it isn't fooling anybody.

    [–]CuilRunnings 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Or what about Paul Nungesser who /r/TwoXChomosomes lead several sustained harassment campaigns against?? Or every single member of Phi Alpha Psi at UVA? Or the hedge fund manager some failed actress/waitress accused all over the sub? Most of the worst articles have since been scrubbed after being allowed to sit on that sub's front page for weeks, but that subreddit has been the worst offender of them all. Where is the consistency??

    [–]DisappointedGuardian 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Top fucking kek

    [–]XavierSimmons 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    C'mon krispy. All behavior is in the past. You can't say that recent bad behavior is worse than less recent bad behavior. That's just plain stupid.

    [–]ghastlyactions 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    In the long long ago of ancient May, 2015.

    [–]CorpulentFilth 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    WW2 happened long ago. Still prosecuting Nazis.

    Now, I'm not saying that SRS is full of Nazis, but it's full of internet Nazis.

    Internazis.

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    [–]MegaFlounder 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    All behavior prior to this announcement is back logged behavior. If you announced a warning and then a subsequent ban, then maybe you'd have a logical sequence of events.

    [–]AvalonBright 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Apparently "long ago" goes by pretty quick in RedditTime.

    Meanwhile fph has never had a single instance of organized harassment of any sort.

    [–]_offensive_username -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    you stupid peice of shit fat hypocrite