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[–]ekjp[A] -573ポイント-572ポイント-571ポイント 1時間 前 (243子コメント)
We're banning behavior, not ideas. While we don't agree with the content of the subreddit, we don't have reports of it harassing individuals.
[–]Bones_IV 395ポイント396ポイント397ポイント 1時間 前 (50子コメント)
So what about a sub like /r/ShitRedditSays? Their whole model is to point out/ shame other Redditors when they don't like their comments.
[–]HannibalK 133ポイント134ポイント135ポイント 1時間 前 (11子コメント)
I'll guild you if /u/ekjp gives you an answer that makes sense.
[–]ItsYourHandInMine 89ポイント90ポイント91ポイント 1時間 前 (2子コメント)
Chairman Pao doesn't require logic as it's a tool of the patriarchy.
[–]Hubinator 25ポイント26ポイント27ポイント 54分 前 (1子コメント)
Proof is for straight white males only.
[–]Wheatiez 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 41分 前 (0子コメント)
QED
[–]meoxu8 46ポイント47ポイント48ポイント 1時間 前 (3子コメント)
It's not shaming, it's attempts to censor opposing opinions. I don't see /r/fatpeoplehate or /r/coontown actively brigade and censor people they disagree with. Pretty much the only subs that do it are the SJW subs like /r/shitredditsays or /r/againstmensrights
[–]Tundraaa 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
It's funny because people in /r/fatlogic are saying how they're gonna be safe because they don't brigade, all the while agreeing that FPH definitely DID brigade.
but no MUH BOOGEYMAN OUT TO GET YA
[–]TheShitlordBellossom 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 13分 前 (0子コメント)
And yet they just went private, go figure...
[–]cookiepusss 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 21分 前 (0子コメント)
Brigading is pretty much all they're talking about on /r/fatpeoplehate2
[–]innergametrumpsall 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
I'll suck both of your dicks if she does. It'll just be "we don't see any evidence of them harassing people." Which is the biggest load of dogshit.
[–]xoiz 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 38分 前 (0子コメント)
I'll guild you
Do not sponsor reddit.
[–]throwaway_the_fourth 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント たった今 (0子コメント)
gild*
[–]DO_YOU_EVEN_LIFT_BRO 43ポイント44ポイント45ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
You will never ever ever ever get a response to this.
[–]Bones_IV 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Maybe. Still can't hurt to ask.
[–]cgimusic 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 50分 前 (0子コメント)
I would say that's far worse. The banned subreddits are negative towards groups of people in a general manner. SRS targets individuals.
[–]jonahandthewhales 32ポイント33ポイント34ポイント 1時間 前 (3子コメント)
Get your fucking logic out of this place.
This was targetted at FPH because of dem feels, money and nothing more.
[–]Bones_IV 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1時間 前 (2子コメント)
I think banning behavior can be done with better moderation. If they are going to institute new rules, more power to them I guess. It's their website and they have seemed open to changes in the past. But I'd like to see consistency or transparency in their application of those rules.
[–]jonahandthewhales 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
It's their website, I don't give a shit about how they want to run it. What I have an issue with is banning under the pre-text of "banning behaviour" when this issue is NOT subjected only to FPH.
[–]Bones_IV 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Correct. I would like consistency or at least transparency in terms of their process when it comes to wiping a subreddit off the map.
[–]jkbpttrsn 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 53分 前 (9子コメント)
How about /r/bestof?
[–]Bones_IV 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 47分 前 (8子コメント)
Generally aren't those posts either about praising or highlighting something interesting? It seems rare that posts are strictly about negativity.
[–]jkbpttrsn 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 46分 前 (5子コメント)
Brigading is brigading.
[–]Bones_IV 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 44分 前 (4子コメント)
Is the issue brigading? I thought it was harassment.
[–]jkbpttrsn 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 37分 前* (3子コメント)
There have been many occasions in which /r/bestof has harrassed people. Usually when the comment being linked is a response to a comment people don't like. Look at the example of that post in /r/fallout when that person wrote that they had played Fallout 4. When some of the info turned out to be true one user that insulted the"leaker" got brigaded and harassed right after the post got linked to Bestof. That's an example of brigading and harassment. But no one cares about them.
[–]Bones_IV -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 31分 前 (2子コメント)
That stuff is going to happen on almost any sub at some point or another. The first purpose of that post was to highlight all those predictions coming true, and then that the poster was treated so poorly. Downvote brigades will happen on /r/bestof, even when the links are to 'no participation' addresses. Still, that isn't the express goal of the subreddit. Most of the /r/bestof posts that make the front page are positive or interesting.
[–]jkbpttrsn 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 23分 前 (0子コメント)
Fine, but there have been occassions in which they've done it. I've seen it several times! It's extremely obvious they do it but no one cares because they downvoted comments many people on this site disagree with and upvoted comments they agree with. Harrassing people that say thing this site isn't as big of a deal. But compare the harassment of SRS and Bestof. Bestof has a huge population. In the example iused before the individual harassed had dozens ans dozens of horrible comments from Bestof. SRS's population is miniscule but they're seen as the boogeyman on this site! They may harass. It's fucked up but the reason they're hated way more is because they don't follow the agenda of this site. Best of does. Anyone that thinks SRS should be banned should also agree that Bestof should too. If not they're hypocrites.
[–]TheShitlordBellossom 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 11分 前 (0子コメント)
So brigading is alright as long as people agree with it?
k
[–]Will_Im_Not 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 38分 前 (1子コメント)
The most downvoted comment on reddit for years was due to a /r/bestof brigade.
[–]Bones_IV 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 36分 前 (0子コメント)
That's a prominent example but I'm referring to the general purpose and spirit of the subreddit. While that has and will continue to occur (unavoidable) I wouldn't call it the goal of the sub.
[–]Babill 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 18分 前 (0子コメント)
Please respond to this.
[–]shorthanded 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1分 前 (0子コメント)
reddit - where they selectively govern subs, but offer zero governance in regards to asshole mods. thankfully there's some great small subs out there that keep me coming back, but the big subs are a waste of fucking time. almost all default subs are just fucked in regards to moderating.
also - what's with /r/askreddit banning so many commenters that have been gilded? what a shit show this fucking site is
[+]rickrossroll スコアが基準値未満のコメント-40ポイント-39ポイント-38ポイント 1時間 前 (18子コメント)
There's a difference between critiquing/shaming than harassing.
if you're gonna ban /r/ShitRedditSays, then you should ban /r/TumblrInAction, and probably even /r/TheRedPill
[–]Acebulf 51ポイント52ポイント53ポイント 1時間 前 (16子コメント)
SRS brigades, TIA doesn't.
[+]salty-sardines スコアが基準値未満のコメント-18ポイント-17ポイント-16ポイント 1時間 前* (11子コメント)
SRS brigades
Comments linked to from SRS tend to go up in score, not down (charts). If SRS brigades then it's a very ineffective brigade.
TIA doesn't
It's well-known that blogs linked from TiA tend to receive a sudden flood of hatemail. It may not be on reddit, but it's still harassment.
[–]Fatty-Kin 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
I spent about a month monitoring stuff submitted to SRS. For the most part, you're right. The problem is if the comment is a particularly highly upvoted one, say on the front page (which it often is) the score will go up merely due to its own popularity. In this case, SRS's effects are minuscule either way. But I have seen plenty of lesser seen, or days-old comments go from a few positive votes to well into the negatives after being directly linked in SRS.
Most things linked in SRS have too much traffic to determine whether SRS is having an affect at all. For comments with less site traffic, the effects are very noticeable.
[–]Acebulf 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 1時間 前 (9子コメント)
Those graphs are heavily misleading and don't account for users pushing their point of view on comments other than the one linked. It also does not access trends from before it was posted.
Sometimes they brigade 1-2 day old posts, and then you see the scores shoot to the negatives, when you don't have regular users to mitigate the effects of the brigade.
[–]Bones_IV 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
I agree. I'm not actually advocating banning /r/ShitRedditSays. They have their views, and yay free speech. They're just a good example of a very well-known sub (the same way FPH was well-known) that points out specific actions of regular people. I am legitimately curious when, in the eyes of the admins, it crosses over from expressing ideas about behavior to harassment.
[–]theone899 119ポイント120ポイント121ポイント 1時間 前 (22子コメント)
The whole point of /r/ShitRedditSays is to link to posts they don't like, laugh at them, and then downvote them.
It constantly brigades subs.
[–]Werner__Herzog 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 1時間 前 (5子コメント)
By that logic /r/bestof should also be banned. When ever you're the bad guy in one of the threads you're going to have a bad time. Latest example I know of. People started harassing and downvoting the "bad guys". Some of them hadn't been on reddit for a while luckily, so it wasn't too bad. But people from many subs can get vicious.
However bestof mods try to prevent such behavior or to limit it somehow. E.g. the thread that lead to that behavior I just mentioned got deleted.
And the admins have repeatedly stated that SRS does not do as significant an amount of brigading as people want to believe. SRS has been more and more inactive and is basically just a boogie man now. They have done some vicious things in the past (or at least admitted to it), but don't really anymore.
[–]senormoll 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 34分 前 (4子コメント)
/r/bestof uses non-participation (np.reddit.com) links to discourage such behavior--it's their very first rule. You obviously can't prevent brigading entirely, but SRS uses regular links and shows the current vote count in the title, both of which arguably encourage brigading. Their second rule is "no brigading", but if they really wanted that they'd at least switch to np.* links like other meta subs do.
[–]Werner__Herzog 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 26分 前* (1子コメント)
The admin have stated multiple times that np-links are not endorsed by them and are almost ineffective.
But one of them also said yesterday that they are planing to do something about it. And that he has done some work on another solution himself.
edit: sorry for the spamming, my internet connection borked on me
[–]senormoll 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6分 前 (0子コメント)
Ah cool, thanks for the links. I'm guessing since it's a CSS hack it doesn't work on mobile apps? Which must be a huge, if not primary, source of traffic for reddit. I'm definitely interested to see what solution they come up with though, because even referrer links can be circumvented by just copy/pasting the url into a new tab, which is about the same amount of effort required to circumvent np links.
[–]YOU_CANT_GILD_ME 19ポイント20ポイント21ポイント 1時間 前 (2子コメント)
They also buy a lot of gold, so they're staying for now.
[–]CuilRunnings 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Admins have unlimited gold they can hand out. Don't be confused.
[–]theone899 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Let's file a few hundred reports to the admins; make them not be fucking hypocrites.
[–]edgeloard 22ポイント23ポイント24ポイント 1時間 前* (3子コメント)
SRS is admin-approved harassment tho. It will never go away because of the ties the mods have with the admins.
Edit: Downvoting doesn't make it any less true.
[–]TheGreatPastaWars 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1時間 前 (7子コメント)
Per /u/ekjp, they were getting reports of harassment from these banned subs. If you feel that SRS is doing that, then find those instances and report them to the admins.
[–]testbug0 26ポイント27ポイント28ポイント 1時間 前 (3子コメント)
You believe that no one has reported SRS for harassment before?
[–]TheCid 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 49分 前 (0子コメント)
I have reported SRS for raiding my subreddits on multiple occasions. At the time I was a moderator of two different subs with over 100,000 members each. Both of them were brigaded by SRS on multiple occasions and the admins did nothing about it.
[–]TheGreatPastaWars 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
I have no idea. All I'm saying is that an admin has come out and said it, so now you know can hold them accountable to their words. If you see them harassing people, report it.
[–]testbug0 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
I have done so in the past and I doubt I'm the only one to have done so. I guess those reports just got "lost". :]
[–]OSU_Shitlord 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
So literally every thread in SRS. Oh yeah, I'm sure they've never had reports from there before.
[–]biznatch11 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Possibly the people who get targeted by srs don't give a shit so don't bother to report it, while other types of people are overly sensitive and vocal whenever they experience the slightest bit of offense.
[–]pantytantrum 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 36分 前 (0子コメント)
I did YEARS ago on an old account.
Yeah, the admins 100% approve of SRS brigading, doxxing, and harassment. You cannot honestly believe that no one has ever told the admins about SRS before, the admins are just crooked as fuck.
[–]FXKurrency 16ポイント17ポイント18ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Go fuck yourself Pao!
[–]16intheclip 79ポイント80ポイント81ポイント 1時間 前 (21子コメント)
So you ban on the basis of people feeling offended rather than actual harassment? So something like /r/neofag, a subreddit dedicated to mocking the website NeoGaf is removed while a hate group like coontown or a radical brigadesub like SRS isn't removed because there are no reports?
[–]ridik_ulass 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
so all hate groups have to do is make their sub private so people can't report them?
[–]thebondoftrust 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 1時間 前 (7子コメント)
So you ban on the basis of people feeling offended rather than actual harassment?
That's the exact opposite of
behaviour, not ideas.
[–]16intheclip 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 1時間 前 (4子コメント)
/r/Neofag didn't harass people - they were almost exclusively banned or not interested in joining NeoGaf, the website they were mocking.
[–]Dancingqueen89 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間 前 (2子コメント)
We're here. https://voat.co/v/NeoFAG
[–]mastersword130 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 36分 前 (1子コメント)
That site needs to make an app and I will join in a heart beat.
[–]Dancingqueen89 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 31分 前 (0子コメント)
Yeah i used alien blue, We haven't really used voat, just had it as backup because we knew this would happen eventually. Its just a rally point for all our members and lurkers, we're working on other options.
[–]Kestyr 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
They would be no actually harassing. It would be posting links to the forums, usually of OP's of threads. They would make fun of people for posting really weird shit, but there was a lot of "You stay over there, I'll stay over here" mentality as they held such such low standards towards the forum.
[–]geomanguy 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1時間 前* (1子コメント)
Neofag didnt harass anyone.
[–]Dancingqueen89 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
We laughed at anon usernames on a forum, what a crazy safe space world.
[+]Is_This_Democracy_ スコアが基準値未満のコメント-11ポイント-10ポイント-9ポイント 1時間 前 (11子コメント)
They don't ban for being "offended", they ban for harassment. Such as what FPH did with the Imgur team (see SRD for more details).
[–]16intheclip 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 1時間 前 (7子コメント)
SRD is another brigading sub like SRS, mocking and harassing people with different ideas.
I never visited FPH (or any of the other banned subs besides neofag) but banning entire subs for vaguely defined harassment sets a bad standard for a somewhat open discussion platform.
[–]Sureiyaa -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 1時間 前 (6子コメント)
mocking and harassing people with different ideas
What? That's not SubredditDrama. They just post about people arguing about stupid stuff on reddit, that's all. If it causes fights, it's there, doesn't matter what it's about.
[–]Unconfidence 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間 前 (4子コメント)
Uh, yeah. They linked me and then proceeded to have a nice long thread mocking and deriding me. The only reason I knew was because a bot linked me. My posts also started dropping like a stone into the negatives when they did link me.
But no, totally not a harassment or bridage sub.
[–]16intheclip 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
It's been one of the subs used to brigade any discussion about richard lewis in the lol subreddit.
[–]quaellaos 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
So are we banning all the subs where people make fun of pictures of people?
[–]Is_This_Democracy_ 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Well I guess if those people are identifiable, yes. But admins are well known for not enforcing their own rules entirely consistently.
[–]dragon_nipples -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
FPH didn't harass the imgur team.
[–]FlyingVhee 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 1時間 前 (2子コメント)
What's the process of banning a subreddit? Is it based purely on number of reports, or is there actual research done to see if a sub is actively promoting brigading?
It's fairly obvious that /r/fatpeoplehate was a controversial sub and there was plenty of hate for it that would garner a lot of reports. Being a fairly active subscriber, I never saw any brigading of other subs and the mods were good about shutting down links to other parts of Reddit. People that posted links to other sections of Reddit were actively removed or even banned.
What's to stop a sub like SRS from having it's members mass report the sub and say that things like brigading aren't happening in order to get it banned? What's to stop people who disagree with the sub from creating an account, subscribing, and going into other subs trying to get it banned?
My main question is: do you ban a subreddit based on subreddit behavior, or individual user behavior?
It's impossible to control every single user of a sub, especially one where the members have such strong opinions. There should be nothing against a FPH subscriber going into another sub alone and voicing their opinions. Since there are a lot of FPH members, more than one of them might show up in any given thread. This doesn't constitute brigading; this is multiple individuals with similar ideals participating on an active web board.
If you're going to ban subreddits and say it's due to the actions of the subreddit, I feel you should provide proof that these actions against the Reddit TOS are occuring.
[–]Dancingqueen89 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
r/NeoFAG made fun of usernames on neogaf.com a gaming forum that resembles tumblr. No personal info was ever posted. Reddit lies.
[–]GatorDontPlayThatSht 18ポイント19ポイント20ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Nonsense, total nonsense. So all the srs brigades, and srd? Just going to conveniently ignore those, or how about the power mods admitting to using alts and spreading antisemitism?
[–]mudclog 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
You're going to have to address this issue and others like it sooner or later. You do know that right? What is the benefit of waiting?
[–]Katynrosja 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
Can you answer ANY fucking questions as to why these were chosen specifically. Can you say ANYTHING? Why these over the countless other, and far more severe harassment subs. No, because it's bullshit.
[–]Darth_Mallrat 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 43分 前 (0子コメント)
Of course not. It's all bullshit and they know it.
[–]theone899 131ポイント132ポイント133ポイント 1時間 前 (8子コメント)
Hey Pao, why isn't /r/ShitRedditSays banned?
Fucking hell, it's slogan is bring reddit down and it brigades other subs - that's it's purpose.
[–]MrBulger 54ポイント55ポイント56ポイント 1時間 前 (7子コメント)
Pao is a lunatic cunt who makes money off BS lawsuits. Her ex-gay corrupt husband is about 100x worse.
I can't support reddit at all anymore. It'll be interesting to see what this shithole place looks like in another year.
[–]swim_to_survive 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 41分 前 (5子コメント)
Your comment got you gold, which in effect supports reddit, and supports Pao, and reinforces this lunacy.
What an ironic turn of events.
[–]jotch 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 38分 前 (1子コメント)
Trolls exist in all forms.
[–]swim_to_survive 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 35分 前 (0子コメント)
Trolls exist in all forms forums.
FTFY.
[–]80Eight 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 27分 前 (1子コメント)
Fortunately it also goes into Gilded, which at least spreads the message.
[–]swim_to_survive 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5分 前 (0子コメント)
Dude. You're right!!!
[–]MrBulger 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 36分 前 (0子コメント)
Congratulations on wasting your money and time
[–]Windover 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 9分 前 (0子コメント)
S A V A G E
[–]kbuis 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 1時間 前 (4子コメント)
Well it sounds pretty resounding from a lot of comments that based on behavior, r/shitredditsays needs a good hard look.
EDIT: oh come on, don't down vote the admin because you disagree with them.
[–]MyFavoriteLadies 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 1時間 前 (2子コメント)
Fuck Pao and fuck the Admins
[–]i_forget_my_userids 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
Incoming shadowban...
[–]MyFavoriteLadies 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Bring it. Just further proves my point. She's a liar and her ex-gay husband is a million times worse.
[–]Darth_Mallrat 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 45分 前 (0子コメント)
Downvotes are not simply about disagreement, but that the answer doesn't make sense in light of the host of subs that still exist.
[–]Acebulf 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Bullshit, otherwise SRS would have been banned a long time ago.
[–]vexinom 18ポイント19ポイント20ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
How many suicidal people do the mods of SRS have to harass before you take action? They brigade while doing it as well. Why isn't this being addressed?
[–]callmebrick 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 1時間 前 (8子コメント)
http://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplehate2/
[–]INTJokes 20ポイント21ポイント22ポイント 1時間 前 (7子コメント)
You misspelled http://voat.co/v/fatpeoplehate
[–]CuilRunnings 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 1時間 前 (6子コメント)
Voat is getting so much traffic right now the servers can't handle it. Reddit just jumped the shark! I am so happy they did this, now the userbase at large will be forced to react.
[–]Fletch71011 18ポイント19ポイント20ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
If that's the case, why isn't SRS gone? I understand banning FPH but you should at least be consistent. They link everywhere which even FPH was not allowed to do.
[–]trolldarius 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
I'll give you $2.7 million to explain this more.
[–]HawkeyeTransfer 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Ban /r/shitredditsays and /r/subredditdrama.
[–]CorvusHerald 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 43分 前 (0子コメント)
You're a god damn lunatic.
[–]Cricket620 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
You're bad at this. You shouldn't do it anymore.
[–]CuilRunnings 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
You're a real piece of shit. You've been harassing the reddit community since you joined. Stop.
[–]lmaotsetung 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
This is a slippery slope...
[–]outofband 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
So first of all I must say that I don't agree on banning subreddits based on the reasons posted in OP (and I say as someone who was banned from FPH for pointing out their shitty behavior).
but then if you start using those reasons to ban subreddits then why things like /r/shitredditsays are even allowed to be?
There are various instances of them harassing users and I don't see the difference between the two.
[–]cagg333 33ポイント34ポイント35ポイント 1時間 前 (10子コメント)
Um, what? /r/fatpeoplehate barely ever leaked. Far less than other antagonistic subreddits. You people disgust me. That subreddit was motivating to me, a fatty. I started losing weight since I discovered it and I've never felt better. Yet you people killed it because people went there and were offended? If they didn't like it they didn't have to go there.
[+]drocks27 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-24ポイント-23ポイント-22ポイント 1時間 前 (9子コメント)
there are plenty of other subs you can go to for motivation.
/r/motivation
/r/Fitness
Wiki Index
/r/100pushups
/r/90daysgoal
/r/athleanx
/r/b210k
/r/bodybeast
/r/bodybuilding
/r/bodyweightfitness
/r/briskwalking
/r/BTFC
/r/BulkOrCut
/r/crossfit
/r/c25k
/r/cutit
/r/cuttingweight
/r/eood [Exercise Out Of Depression]
/r/firstmarathon
/r/fitnessonline
/r/flexibility
/r/gainit
/r/gettingshredded
/r/GripTraining
/r/gsprushfit
/r/homefitness
/r/homegym
/r/Insanity
/r/insanityworkout
/r/kettlebell
/r/kettlebellsport
/r/LiftingRoutines
/r/loseit
/r/loseit_classic
/r/naturalbodybuilding
/r/necromancers [Deadlift specific]
/r/p90x
/r/posture
/r/soccerfitness
/r/steroids
/r/strength_training
/r/stronglifts5x5
/r/TacticalAthlete
/r/tapoutxt
/r/walking
/r/weightroom
/r/WorldStreetWorkout
/r/zumba
/r/AdvancedFitness
/r/fitness30plus
/r/fitnessplus
/r/fitpregnancy
/r/GBFit
/r/ownit
/r/RunnersInChicago
/r/runnyc
/r/veganfitness
/r/xxfitness
/r/29er
/r/advancedrunning
/r/weightlifting
/r/workout
/r/wrestling
/r/xcountryskiing
/r/adventureracing
/r/badminton
/r/barefoot
/r/barefoothiking
/r/barefootrunning
/r/camping
/r/CampingandHiking
/r/Cricket
/r/climbing
/r/crosscountry/
/r/Curling
/r/cycling
/r/cyclocross
/r/bicycletouring
/r/bicycling
/r/billiards
/r/Bowling
/r/Darts
/r/discgolf
/r/hsxc
/r/Kayaking
/r/lacrosse
/r/lifting
/r/mastersrunning
/r/OpenWaterSwimming
/r/Outdoors
/r/parkour
/r/pickupfootball
/r/powerbuilding
/r/powerlifting
/r/racquetball
/r/Raceit/
/r/rollerblading
/r/rollerderby
/r/Rowing
/r/running
/r/RunningWithDogs
/r/sports
/r/snooker
/r/snowboarding
/r/sprinting
/r/sportsmedicine
/r/soccer
/r/squash
/r/strongman/
/r/surfing
/r/swimming
/r/football
/r/golf
/r/Handball
/r/hiking
/r/hockey
/r/tennis
/r/trackandfield
/r/trailrunning
/r/triathlon
/r/ultimate
/r/Ultramarathon
/r/velo
/r/volleyball
/r/Wake
/r/waterpolo
/r/yoga
/r/4hourbodyslowcarb
/r/caloriecount
/r/diabeats
/r/EatCheapAndHealthy
/r/fasting
/r/fitmeals
/r/fixmydiet
/r/food
/r/food2
/r/frugalsupplements
/r/gainitmeals
/r/intermittentfasting
/r/juicing
/r/keto
/r/ketogains
/r/leangains
/r/lowcarb
/r/mealprepsunday
/r/Nootropics
/r/nutrition
/r/nutritionscience
/r/paleo
/r/runmeals
/r/smoothies
/r/soylent
/r/StackAdvice
/r/supplements
/r/swolefood
/r/theketodiet
/r/vegan
/r/vegetarian
/r/vegrecipes
/r/xxketo
/r/aikido
/r/amateur_boxing
/r/amateurfights
/r/American_Kenpo
/r/bajiquan
/r/balintawak
/r/bjj
/r/Boxing
/r/Bujinkan
/r/Bushi
/r/capoeira
/r/combatarts
/r/Eskrima
/r/Fencing
/r/hapkido
/r/HwaRangDo
/r/iaido
/r/internal_arts
/r/jkd
/r/Ju_Jutsu
/r/judo
/r/karate
/r/kendo
/r/Kickboxing
/r/kravmaga
/r/kungfu
/r/kungfucinema
/r/kungfuonyoutube
/r/kyokushin
/r/martialarts
/r/MMA
/r/mmafights
/r/MuayThai
/r/sambo
/r/Sanda
/r/Savate
/r/ShorinjiKempo
/r/silat
/r/systema
/r/taekwondo
/r/taijiquan
/r/tangsoodo
/r/TraditionalNinjutsu
/r/TrueQiGong
/r/ufc
/r/WingChun
/r/wma
Due to both full and partial nudity, all picture subreddits should be considered NSFW. Some moreso than others.
/r/athleticgirls
/r/bodygallery
/r/brogress
/r/fbb
/r/fitmeme
/r/FitnessPhotos
/r/gymmemes
/r/hardbodies
/r/hotandsweaty
/r/malemodels
/r/nakedprogress
/r/progresspics
/r/runwild
/r/sexyathletes
/r/crossfail
/r/fitdeals
/r/Fitnessblogs
/r/fitnessdeals
/r/fitnessvideos
/r/fittitbuddy
/r/formcheck
/r/frugalsports
/r/health
/r/iron
/r/liftingmusic
/r/LiftingVideos
/r/runninglifestyle
/r/runningmusic
/r/runningroutes
/r/supplementdeals
/r/ThinYourCloset
and /r/fatlogic
[–]cagg333 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 1時間 前 (8子コメント)
That's not the point. I found motivation that worked so well for me. Yes, any poster on that sub would have made fun of me if they ever saw a picture. Probably pretty harshly. But had I never gone there I would've never even known it existed. Fatties who went there and cried deserved it.
[–]MrWigglesworth2 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 51分 前 (1子コメント)
Yes, any poster on that sub would have made fun of me if they ever saw a picture.
Even that would be a stretch. FPH was more about shitting on delusional "Health At Every Size" nonsense. Someone that was overweight but who was acknowledging the problem and working to fix it wasn't really the target.
[–]cagg333 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 49分 前 (0子コメント)
I wouldn't be a target, but I wouldn't get sympathy. The general attitude towards people like me was "You got yourself there, why should we applaud you coming back to normal", which I agree with. I don't deserve sympathy.
[+]denko_safe_cats スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 1時間 前 (5子コメント)
It's a small population that gets motivated by being insulted. FPH likes to justify their hatred by saying it's helpful. I'm glad it worked for you, but understand that you are the minority in that case.
[–]cagg333 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 1時間 前 (3子コメント)
Understand that people who didn't like it didn't have to go there. The sub didn't brigade at all.
[–]VerticalSmileyCyrus 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 31分 前 (0子コメント)
Hating fats needs no justification. They are inherently vile.
[–]BilgeXA 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
So all we have to do is submit reports and you'll ban whatever the fuck?
[–]BullsLawDan 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
There are thousands of provable reports of SRS harassing people, at least by this new standard where having a sub that talks bad about a group is "harassment."
[–]shitlord_ofthedance 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Your hypocrisy is incredible. Just mind-blowing. what the actual fuck?
[–]_______walrus 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1時間 前* (0子コメント)
So you're going to censor shit you don't like. Ok, got it. How about you get rid of other offensive subreddits too instead of a certain handful?
Fucking pathetic, you stupid idiot.
[–]innergametrumpsall 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Understood. ShitRedditSays then has to go, don't you agree?
[–]combatwombat42 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
No, you're banning ideas due to the behavior of a few people who have opinions aligned with those ideas.
[–]Patranus 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
So if that is the standard, why was I banned from /r/news for posting a factual/objective news story about you (Pao) with an objective thread title after it received ~4,000 up-votes at a 92% rating and still no explanation from the moderators.
Or is the real standard banning people/groups that don't believe in the SJW platform or ideas?
[–]DickWhiskey 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 55分 前 (0子コメント)
We're banning behavior, not ideas.
Saying this again and again does not make it true.
[–]bearwulf 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 54分 前 (0子コメント)
Behavior like your husbands who scammed people out of money or yours when you sued your former employer so you'd have cash to pay your husbands legal fees and settlements?
[–]itsgametime 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 54分 前 (0子コメント)
On behalf of all of us, I'd like to report repeated, continuous, and blatant harassment from SRS
[–]theone899 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 1時間 前 (12子コメント)
@ejkp
Aaron Schwartz would be rolling in his grave.
[–]ilovecreamsoda 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 29分 前 (1子コメント)
Agreed, I'm damn pissed about this. He lived not far from me when he was a kid.
[–]theone899 -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 25分 前 (0子コメント)
He stood for values of free speech and the admins are fucking everything up, everything he stood for.
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[–]theone899 24ポイント25ポイント26ポイント 1時間 前 (5子コメント)
No, he was known for his love of free expression and free speech.
I hate racist people, but I respect their right to say what they want - I'll use my free speech to fucking ridicule them.
Go back to your safe space, asshole.
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[–]theone899 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
So? I speak out against racism too. That doesn't mean I try to censor what they're trying to say. Censorship will make their desire to be racist even stronger.
[–]Acebulf 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
He did quite clearly advocate for free speech by Reddit's definition. The culture of the internet when he founded the website was unquestionably based on this kind of free speech, and this definition was almost uniformily accepted amongst internet users, so when he claimed to support free speech, it was that kind of free speech he was supporting.
[–]idonthavearewardcard 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
Increasingly the userbase seems to think that free speech means you can be as much as a dick as you want without any consequences.
This exercise is not about banning dissenting opinions, it's about punishing those who go against it's terms of service. Evidenced by the fact that horrendous, racist subs have NOT been banned.
[–]MyFavoriteLadies 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
But SRS is still here. Which has broken the TOS more than the 5 subs banned today combinedx100
[–]T_Dumbsford 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 1時間 前 (2子コメント)
Fuck off. At least have the balls to be honest about it.
We're banning behavior, not ideas
Safe space doublespeak hargle blargle gfhhhfysvsbs agggghhhh
[–]sweateraficionado -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
You seem upset.
[–]T_Dumbsford 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Little bit.
[–]Robby_Digital 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
I'd like to report r/ShitRedditSays. How exactly do I do that?
[–]HarvestProject 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Just because someone doesn't report it doesn't mean it's not happening...
[–]johnsmcjohn 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Why don't you ban /r/candidfashionpolice? It's the SAME EXACT type of content as /r/TheFappening only with regular people. It's alive and well.
[–]phelixthecat 30ポイント31ポイント32ポイント 1時間 前 (5子コメント)
You're banning shit that pisses you off because you are fat and can't get laid
[–]man_on_hill 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Holy kek. This really rustled your jimmies.
[–]KrakatoaSpelunker 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1時間 前* (2子コメント)
Since some people in this thread are asking what harassment is, I'll point out that this is a very good example of harassment.
[–]ordo259 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 32分 前 (1子コメント)
Harassment on /r/announcements?
Better take down that subreddit too!
[–]hornyzucchini 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 31分 前 (0子コメント)
Don't divide by zero please
[–]assho1e 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Found the fatty.
[–]Patranus 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
When are you going to ban the hate subreddit /r/Athism?
[–]Redrum714 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
No you're banning cause it hurts your precious feelings. Fucking usless peice of shit admins. Go fuck yourself Pao, reddit doesnt want anything to do with your whiny ass.
[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
You fuckwits don't need to ban anything unless it's illegal. Let the user base decide! Jesus christ you fucking retards.
[–]funderbunk 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 55分 前 (0子コメント)
Bull fucking shit.
[–]cifad 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 49分 前 (0子コメント)
The subreddit didn't harass anyone - it haв a lot of subscribers maybe some of them did, but this behavior was not in any way encouraged by the mods and the community.
[–]HemorrhagingKarma 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 46分 前 (0子コメント)
You can't honestly, with a straight face, tell us that no one has reported /r/ShitRedditSays or r/coontown for harassing individuals. If you do you are lying.
If there is a threshold for reports of harassment, I'm sure we can meet that threshold for these subreddits. Would you ban them then? I highly doubt it.
[–]Iloveyou-Iknow 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 18分 前 (0子コメント)
Okay, hambeast. Ban /r/theredpill and /r/seduction too while at it , and make this site a cesspool of fat, pink haired, virgin nerds and low self esteem older people who spam pictures of woodwork they make.
[–]Leering 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 10分 前 (0子コメント)
So what about a sub like /r/ShitRedditSays[1] ? Their whole model is to point out/ shame other Redditors when they don't like their comments.
Bet this won't get a reply. /u/ekjp /u/5Days /u/kn0thing
[–]adam_varg 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
bullshit, how do you know that reports aren't falseflags?
[–]Spoobit 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Hi there I'm doing a completely unrelated health survey on Reddit admins. Would you mind giving me your Body Mass Index? (◕‿◕✿)
[–]kipjak3rd 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
you should run for office, you sound like a true politician.
[–]fnoobreported 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Thanks for not being a total shitter yet. m Ban SRS though they harras people on a daily.
[–]ZenZibbeh 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Bullshit.
[–]Madox84 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Bullshit. This is straight censorship and you know it.
[–]homemade_mayo 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
I've actually sent the admins messages about /r/coontown harassing members of one of my subreddits before. So you have at least one report. In case you're wondering, no you (admins) did not get back to me with a response.
[–]itsrojass 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Stupid mod .
[–]yahoonewscommenter 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Yeah you totally can't go through those users profiles and see how they proliferate their huge amounts of bullshit all over reddit. How fat are you?
[–]011010110 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 51分 前 (0子コメント)
But doesn't that mean that a concerted effort organised by a group on the internet eg 4chan/tumblr/SA could claim harassment and have a subreddit shutdown?
If it was one subreddit I might buy it, but you have evidently focused on these fat subs as a collection.
Reddit is dying and in its place we are getting the investor/media friendly/family safe version. Reddit was cool and exciting because the very wide variety of content that was available, this safe and friendly version will kill off whatever made reddit special in the first place.
Who knows perhaps you are big enough now that you will maintain your position simply because there is little real competition out there,perhaps the trickle now will become a flood later, after the next ban maybe.
It has happened before, digg lost a lot of users over the DECSS key debacle but that turned to a flood after a site wide redesign. People lose faith a little bit at a time but then some event will tip enough people over the edge and then you are another has been.
[–]JessyJaye 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 49分 前 (0子コメント)
Bullshit. You can't even truly contact an admin when you're being harassed in this site - I've tried. Half the time it's the mods themselves doing the harassment and there's nothing a user can do. where are these reports you've received?
And seriously how are THOSE the first subreddits you ban and not something worse like stormfront or shitredditsays?
This doesn't add up, not that anything reddit does adds up anymore.
Well...it "ads" up.
[–]Darth_Mallrat 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 46分 前 (0子コメント)
That's horseshit and you know it, but you'll never respond to this anyway, so I don't even know why I bother.
[–]OruTaki 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 45分 前 (0子コメント)
I would rather have woody harrelson as CEO of reddit. At least he's consistent and doesn't bullshit around.
[–]cocksplinter 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 39分 前 (0子コメント)
Nazi
[–]bobsp 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 36分 前 (0子コメント)
If that's the truth, then why are you allowing the largest brigading/harassing subreddit to exist (/r/shitredditsays).
[–]VerticalSmileyCyrus 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 32分 前 (0子コメント)
If /r/coontown starts reaching the front page, you can bet your sweet ass you will ban it.
[–]ilovecreamsoda 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 30分 前 (0子コメント)
fuck off and resign you stupid fucking SJW.
[–]80Eight 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 27分 前 (0子コメント)
Are you going just off of reports???
How about some proof and transparency here.
[–]chromeand 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 23分 前 (0子コメント)
Thank you!
[–]bleachigo 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 22分 前 (0子コメント)
Your so full of shit
[–]ThrowawayShitlord777 -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 20分 前 (0子コメント)
This site is shit now because of you. Honestly censorship? loll And what about all the dead animals, dead children, sexism, racism, and harassment on other subreddits? Oh but the fupas over at reddit headquarters forgot about that didn't they? loll Just censoring shit you guys don't like. ,,!,,
[–]newinyorkpa 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 17分 前 (0子コメント)
Here's an idea: go be a cunt somewhere else. Isn't there a lawsuit you could be losing or something?
[–]the_samburglar 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 12分 前 (0子コメント)
I feel like all of the admins' answers were typed out for quick copy/pasting. "Quick, how do we sugarcoat censorship?".
[–]bossitron 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 8分 前 (0子コメント)
[–]luciferoverlondon 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 8分 前 (0子コメント)
ITT: Reddit admins openly advocating racism.
[–]tcp1 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 8分 前 (0子コメント)
No, you are cherry picking and not applying the rules at all to subs which line up with your personal beliefs.
[–]wtjones 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 8分 前 (0子コメント)
Is the behavior exhibited on SRS acceptable and/or condoned by admin?
[–]_Madison_ 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6分 前 (0子コメント)
Well at least we now know ekjp is pro racist.
[–]docollas 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5分 前 (0子コメント)
Let me introduce you to /r/ShitRedditSays all they do is insult and harass users. Just click the link and you can witness for yourself that the entire sub is there only to harass users. Doesn't make me or others feel so safe in reddit knowing that they're always on the prowl for their next victim.
Please do the right thing and take out this trash. Thank you.
[–]Dusty_Ideas 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Wow. That is the most fucked up logic I've ever heard.
You are a dumb cunt and everything I've heard about you is 100% true.
[–][deleted] -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 59分 前 (0子コメント)
I hope you fucking die from cancer.
[–]lesderid 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 48分 前 (0子コメント)
You are probably going to get (or are already getting) a lot of death threats. Stay in there. This is a huge fuck up though, imnsho.
[–]campbell14085 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 38分 前 (0子コメント)
Has your husband paid what he owes yet?
[–]gimli666 -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
You should ban yourselves. With a shotguns.
[–]davidthefat -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Based on that logic, shouldn't /r/fatlogic be targeted as well? That subreddit frequently refers to people they target by their actual names.
Honestly, it's just explicit censorship at this point.
[–]MrTheodore -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
so just to clear things up, were the 5 banned subs were actively encouraging members to find people and either dox them or spam their youtube or facebook or twiiter, etc. with messages and whatnot? basically to go outside of reddit and bother them
or what were they doing that these other numerous hate group subs presented aren't?
[–]bayharbourbluth -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
So you're fine with people posting shit about people dying, shit covered dead people, cute dead woman, disgusting racism and so many other things? Just as long as they're not being rude to another Redditor? That's honestly fucking disgusting.
π Rendered by PID 551 on app-136 at 2015-06-10 20:14:30.255153+00:00 running 195bdb0 country code: JP.
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