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Removing harassing subreddits (self.announcements)

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[–]SplodeyDope 1546ポイント1547ポイント x5 (412子コメント)

How about /r/shitredditsays ?

[–]hestonkent 837ポイント838ポイント  (98子コメント)

or /r/coontown ?

[–]drift1122 419ポイント420ポイント  (63子コメント)

Ban fph but not this!? Wow reddit, just wow...

[–]DietsAreForHitler 308ポイント309ポイント  (44子コメント)

It's ridiculous. You can't change your race. You can change your weight.

[–]leroybillybob 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Michael Jackson disagrees.

[–]RVCFever 15ポイント16ポイント  (5子コメント)

they banned FPH because the sidebar image was pictures of imgur staff being exposed

[–]TupacalypseN0w 34ポイント35ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yea... How many black people are employed by reddit? How many overweight people are employed? I think looking at those numbers may give you a clue.

[–]RVCFever 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, cynical side of me just thinks they were embarrassed of some of their own getting shown.

[–]preggit 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That may have been one of the instances of harassment - one perpetuated by the moderators which makes the subreddit look even worse - but I don't think you can definitively say that was the sole reason the subreddit was banned without an admin confirmation.

[–]OCSRetailSlave 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And probably a lot more. I wonder if the people who perpetuated the hate that spilled outside of their subreddit would be prepared to give their full names, who they work for and what city they live in since they're obviously so proud of their behavior?

[–]fnoobreported 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not about race. It's about their behaviour.

[–]DatClimate 14ポイント15ポイント  (10子コメント)

I will start some subs called /r/smokerhate and /r/vapehate.

Both are despicable, unhealthy actions which cost billions in healthcare, and as such are just as deserving of hate as obesity.

[–]Trippze 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

i personally though fph was helping people

[–]Trishlovesdolphins 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah, I can see where telling people they're fat, go kill themselves is quite helpful.

[–]PM_me_a_dirty_haiku 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

my brother is in the "obese" BMI category and browses that sub daily for motivation

[–]__________________l 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

but muh condishuns

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    [–]Obeeeee 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Shhh, they'll ban you too.

    [–]cwenham 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'm going to assume it's the "We’re banning behavior, not ideas" part. So subs that don't "leak" (a subjective term, and I'm not sure what the admins consider this to be, yet), can go on undisturbed.

    We don't really get any information about subs that… uh… are active in others, so that's a big part of the confusion.

    [–]Jasperkr672 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Is there even any evidence that r/fatpeoplehate was a harassment sub?

    [–]run5k 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Ban fph but not this!?

    FPH became too popular... the more popular something becomes, the more likely it is to get banned.

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      [–]mracidglee 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Glancing briefly at /r/coontown, it seems like the sub doesn't have information which can be used for harassment IRL.

      [–]Daisy_DukeNukem 41ポイント42ポイント  (4子コメント)

      To be fair, all subs which are self contained should be free

      [–]Cialis_In_Wonderland 57ポイント58ポイント  (3子コメント)

      They didn't do nuffin.

      [–]dustfeather 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      They didn't do nuffin

      The gramatically correct term according to the Oxford Dictionary is

      "Dindu Nuffin"

      • Prof. /pol/

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        [–]superdude4agze 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Quote from admin /u/ekjp

        We're banning behavior, not ideas. While we don't agree with the content of the subreddit, we don't have reports of it harassing individuals.

        [–]Nunoporing 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

        Oh god, my eyes.

        I haven't seen the word "nigger" so many times in my life

        [–]kwilly15bb 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Any DMX song says it more.

        [–]Nunoporing 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Is it weird that "nigga" doesn't bother me as much as "nigger"?

        Seems less aggresive

        [–]sleepsholymountain -2ポイント-1ポイント  (6子コメント)

        Interesting how SRS was the first thing that jumped to people's minds and not this. I guess mocking people for being ignorant douche bags is way worse than actual fucking bigotry to most redditors.

        [–]Imacynicalasshole 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

        Because srs spills over into the rest of reddit and actually harasses people, coontown, as shitty as it is, is pretty self contained.

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          [–]penguin8508 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Jesus Christ, wtf? I am thankful I didn't know this was out there and pissed as hell that mods are allowing it to be. Are you kidding?

          [–]Niccalo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          or /r/greatapes

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            [–]Poached_Polyps 320ポイント321ポイント  (57子コメント)

            Oh I'm sure that one gets to stay.

            [–]HannibalK 212ポイント213ポイント  (40子コメント)

            Those fuckers are the most blantant vote manipulators out there.

            At least subreddits like /r/bestof and /r/subredditdrama use the np. no participation links so their fans probably won't engage in vote manipulation.

            But not shit reddit says lol. They know they have an admin shield.

            [–]PmButtPics4ADrawing 103ポイント104ポイント  (10子コメント)

            Lol are you kidding? /r/bestof is the biggest vote brigader on the site. Just last week there was a 3-day-old comment over in /r/plex with 7 points that got bestof'd and now it has 2,000 points and gold. The guy he was arguing with got to -500 before he deleted it.

            [–]TehAlpacalypse 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Let's not forget that time /r/bestof defended a pedophile and upvoted him to 4k karma

            [–]chris333999 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

            I thought you couldn't downvote past -100?

            [–]YOU_CANT_GILD_ME 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I think it's that your total karma doesn't go below -100 to prevent trolls from trying to get the lowest score possible.

            You can still down vote individual comments and posts below -100, but your total karma won't go below that now.

            [–]YOU_CANT_GILD_ME 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            /r/bestof is a gold factory. They've put in .np links, but apart from that it's not going anywhere.

            [–]tech-bits 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Have a link to the plex thread? Missed that one.

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              [–]beetnemesis 2ポイント3ポイント  (9子コメント)

              Question about the np extension- does it actually do anything? Sometimes I've forgotten it was there, and got a popup saying "you're in no participation mode, please don't vote or comment," but is it just a "suggestion?" Or are votes not ignored if they come from np?

              [–]evilpenguin234 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

              /r/npmythos

              [–]anotherpoweruser 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

              Voting is only disabled on subreddits that change their CSS to make you unable to vote/comment. If you disable CSS or on a mobile device or whatever, np makes no difference. You can also adjust RES settings to auto-disallow commenting and voting to protect yourself from accidentally participating.

              [–]Suppafly 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              If they have sub specific css, they can prevent the voting or show you a message. You can turn off sub specific css in your settings though and then np links work just like regular links.

              [–]andytuba 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              It's a suggestion.

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                [–]Lunisare 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                /r/bestof is by far the biggest vote manipulation subreddit lol. How many times has a comment been linked on bestof been upvoted to the thousands, while a comment disagreeing with that been downvoted to the thousands. Its just a matter of scale, the subreddit with almost 5 million members is going to out vote the shit out of the one with under 70 thousand.

                [–]interfail 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Those fuckers are the most blantant vote manipulators out there.

                At least subreddits like /r/bestof and /r/subredditdrama use the np.

                Are you crazy? Have you ever seen the relative size of a /r/bestof brigade and an SRS brigade? It's like comparing the Somme to a foodfight.

                [–]Just_some_n00b 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                FPH didn't use links at all. Specifically to prevent brigading and harassing outside of the sub.

                [–]Apathie2 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                probably

                Kek

                [–]TotesMessenger 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                I'm a bot, bleep, bloop. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit:

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                    [–]freak_step 360ポイント361ポイント  (127子コメント)

                    Seriously. Why is this subreddit not banned?

                    [–]NicknameUnavailable 254ポイント255ポイント  (8子コメント)

                    Because it is hate that aligns with political beliefs held by the admins.

                    [–]RoadToOneFifty 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    yep pretty much. SJW's are the new age fascists.

                    "your rights end where MUH FEELINGS begin"

                    [–]symon_says 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    SJW's are the new age fascists

                    This is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen posted. The irony is almost devastating.

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                      [–]RamssesSeba 295ポイント296ポイント  (16子コメント)

                      The admins give SRS and all its sister subreddits carte blanche to do whatever they want because it's what a good feminist would do. You want to be a good feminist, don't you?

                      [–]Brackner 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Big Sister is watching.

                      [–]angrybovine1 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Fuck this site. The writings have been on the wall for a while, but now it's clear where reddits priorities lie, and it's not where Aaron Schwarz put them. Fuck all the admins, I'm headed to voat.co for good.

                      [–]EditorialComplex 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

                      Whatever SRS does these days, it pales in comparison to the brigading by places like KotakuInAction, and the admins turn a blind eye to that, so calling it ideological really doesn't hold up.

                      [–]Dullahan3470 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      KIA doesn't brigade anybody.

                      [–]Kupuntu 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Don't forget what happens with /r/bestof and /r/subredditdrama.

                      I'm not even hating on the subreddits or the users there. It's just that when the subreddits are so massive, there will be brigading. There's no way to stop it currently.

                      [–]tw1260 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

                      Srs literally has post linking to other subs. Don't even try to compare

                      [–]symon_says 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      So does /r/bestof. That's really, really not grounds for "this is harassment." Infrequent vote-brigading is hardly "harassment," if you don't see the difference, you take upvotes/downvotes way too seriously.

                      [–]EditorialComplex 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      and? They're still way less active than KiA in terms of brigading.

                      KiA took one person and downvoted everything they've said for months to -200 or worse. SRS doesn't do anything nearly like that.

                      [–]80Eight 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Ooh! Where is that post at that told everyone to do that?

                      [–]TehAlpacalypse 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      That mod had every not archived comment downvoted into the negative hundreds, but SRS is obviously the real issue

                      [–]Tangled2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      "– Jessica (/u/5days), Ellen (/u/ekjp), Alexis (/u/kn0thing) & the rest of team reddit"

                      [–]symon_says 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Beat that strawman to death Mr. Man.

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                        [–]sp0ck06 45ポイント46ポイント  (87子コメント)

                        Who are they harassing?

                        [–]gargoyle_mayonnaise 218ポイント219ポイント  (31子コメント)

                        Literally every thread on SRS targets an individual reddit user and encourages brigading.

                        I did not see /r/fatpeoplehate organize brigading of any kind. SRS copies user posts with usernames and all that. It's true harassment (whether the targets of harassment deserve it or not is irrelevant) whereas /r/fatpeoplehate was a sub for people to vent and complain about fat people, fat acceptance, etc.

                        [–]DietsAreForHitler 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        And every post on /r/fatpeoplehate was required to have all usernames and names blocked out to prevent brigading.

                        [–]boochyfliff 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

                        /r/fatpeoplehate would literally harass and bully specific individuals. How many times were pictures of people in public or facebook posts put on that sub? Just look at how they put pictures of the Imgur staff on their sidebar the other day. That isn't venting or complaining about 'fat culture' or whatever those bullies like to call it, it's targeting specific individuals.

                        [–]gargoyle_mayonnaise 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        They retaliated against IMGUR because IMGUR blocked links from that sub. I didn't think retaliation was a good idea and I'm not surprised to see that sub removed shortly after that happened.

                        But from what I saw on that sub, when people posted screencaps from reddit or FB or IG or anywhere else, personal information was always redacted.

                        [–]_cortex 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Well, most of the people that were on there didn't have their face and/or name shown (except for the 'celebrities' like Tess Munster). Also, when you don't care enough for your health or your looks to show yourself in public like that, I suspect having a photo of your arm or leg fat isn't going to bother you any further. And if it does bother you, then you can always do something about it! Source: used to be overweight as well.

                        [–]AKluthe 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Venting is when you complain (usually privately) about an occurrence so you don't explode with anger in a damaging way.

                        In what way does that describe posting pictures of people you saw and hate entirely because they're overweight? And subscribing to a community dedicated to only doing that?

                        [–]TrckRdr 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        We can argue all day about whether subscribers actually brigade linked threads (and honestly, I don't believe it happens tremendously often), but saying that the subreddit encourages brigading is blatantly false.

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                          [–]GameDay98 124ポイント125ポイント  (32子コメント)

                          They brigade any subreddit that posts something they think is offensive.

                          [–]Vkmies 96ポイント97ポイント  (8子コメント)

                          something they think is offensive

                          Which is about 70% of all things that have ever existed.

                          [–]mungis 18ポイント19ポイント  (5子コメント)

                          That's conservative.

                          [–]fluffythekitty 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          The word "conservative" itself is homophobic and racist, shitlord.

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                            [–]TDKevin 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            They jumped on me one time for saying something "offensive". Realizing a group of people were attacking me on the internet, finding out what SRS was, and then consequently realizing how insane they were, was a very odd moment considering how I generally try to never be offensive. It's very strange that they think a good solution is raising a mob, outnumbering their target, and then aggressively bullying them. Considering most SRS members probably got that experience in highschool, they should know it solves nothing, and does nothing but create an enemy on the other side.

                            [–]Vkmies 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            I think people get a kick out of feeling like they are fighting injustice. And in the age of the internet, you no longer have to actually act to do that. You don't have to put yourself on the line, drive actual change, work towards a better future. You just create an easy black and white situation in your head, put yourself on the "righteous" side and "fight" for "justice". Meaning, being an asshole on the internet. Thus they don't actually have to go through any trouble, make any true change or fight anything, but they get to feel like they are MLK himself. They get to feel like warriors for justice. While they are actually just being dicks on the internet.

                            That's my hypothesis at least.

                            [–]HannibalK 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Literally bridgae, they don't use no participation links. It's pathetically obvious.

                            [–]lasershurt[🍰] 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            Then report it, so they can be judged under this rule.

                            [–]EvanHarper 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            this is just a lie that you guys repeat over and over without justification

                            this has been analyzed so many times, on and off Reddit, (one example) christ we even had a bot for a while that would monitor & report vote histories after anything got linked in SRS

                            the only "evidence" you ever see is particular cases where a comment was upvoted, got linked by SRS, and got downvoted – but it's always single cherry-picked cases, and they never consider e.g. what happens when a thread makes /r/all and brings in a different audience than the normal

                            [–]Schemes011 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            Examples of brigades? They've got like 60k subs how can they perform any brigades

                            [–]BreakfastIsComing 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            or problematic

                            [–]notevilcraze 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            If so they're bad at it. All the supposedly "brigaded" posts have risen in score, on their front page...

                            [–]pfohl 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Evidently not. Admins can actually see which subs are brigading, they don't do the whole "post hoc ergo propter hoc" thing you're doing.

                            [–]cw417 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Seriously give me an actual example. Everything they link is thousands of upvotes positive and gilded. If it was downvoted there would be no point in posting it since posts are supposed to reflect the general status quo of the main userbase.

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                              [–]Danzerello 26ポイント27ポイント  (8子コメント)

                              One time I made a joke about a dad not finding his daughter attractive and about 30 (not 100-200, I was way off) people insisted I was a homophobic bigot, for one.

                              [–]mungis 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              You're a homophobic bigot for not agreeing with those 100-200 people.

                              [–]DepreciateZero 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              Your joke was literally just "Gaaaaaay"

                              [–]IAmTheBauss 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              Not that i'm disagreeing with you but can you link that comment or thread maybe?

                              [–]Danzerello 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              I'll try. I didn't see the thread I just had friends tell me my comment was posted there, but I'll take a gander.

                              [–]theruins 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              Do you have a link?

                              [–]Danzerello 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              http://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/336qdj/on_a_father_who_isnt_sexually_attracted_to_his/

                              I've never actually seen that post until now, but it's humbling to read up on what a piece of shit I am.

                              [–]AssuredlyAThrowAway 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                              Are you not aware of what happened during thw reddit bomb/project panda?

                              Back when srs was nothing more than a thread behind the somethingawful paywall, they setup /r/preteengirls and filled it with actual cp. They the emailed anderson cooper about their own sub and used that external pressure to help the admins solve the "free speech problem" that was /r/jailbait.

                              The admins hands off treatment of srs, and this new change in policy, is a thank you to groups like that who used harassment and briagdes to change reddits internal culture to the point where a change like this was able to happen without the admins fearing a loss of their 500 million dollar valuation.

                              If reddit had any soul left, this will be her v4.

                              [–]PmButtPics4ADrawing -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Nobody. A lot of redditors seem to be under the impression that calling someone out on making a bigoted comment is on the same level as taking photographs of people without their permission and posting them publicly on the internet for the sole purpose of mocking them.

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                                [–]NotKateBush 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                The racists brigade the news subreddits sometimes, but the FPH reactionaries show up like everytime there's a post involving a fat person. They do a lot of harassment, while the racists just do their racist thing.

                                [–]freak_step 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I don't mind fph getting banned at all. However, if this banning harrassing subs is going to be arbitrarily applied, don't even start.

                                [–]sillyinches 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                easy.

                                – Jessica (/u/5days), Ellen (/u/ekjp), Alexis (/u/kn0thing)

                                read the names.

                                [–]soulteepee 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                They haven't chosen to leave it. In the announcement, they ask that you report subreddits that you feel should be banned.
                                After its reported, then people can get angry if its still allowed to exist. I'd imagine with all the outcry about it right now, I'd hope its on their list to review.

                                [–]rit100 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Get RES. Filter it out. I really tried to understand what the point of it all was. It was pretty much a hot mess. So I gave up and filtered it and others like it.

                                [–]Keldon888 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Probably because it's not really an explicit hate sub, they disagree with the stupid "Shit Reddit Says" which is something most of us agree with, they just are extreme to the point of losing all sympathy.

                                Look at the backlash in this thread, reddit is probably going to err on the side of clearly hate filled subs for a while.

                                Or its all a big conspiracy. Either/or.

                                [–]captainmeta4 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Because /u/intortus is ex-admin.

                                [–]TotesMessenger 100ポイント101ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                I'm a bot, bleep, bloop. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit:

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                                [–]Ihavenocomments 23ポイント24ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                Damn, that was quick.

                                [–]WilliamLooby 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                They are paid by their parents to look for things to be offended at, full time

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                                  [–]Brimshae 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  Speaking of vote brigading, hi, Totes bot...

                                  [–]UnoriginalRhetoric 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Where is the brigade? I hate SRS but I have never seen a person claiming to be brigaded by SRS to be negative.

                                  [–]Asha108 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  How meta.

                                  [–]LarsPoosay 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Oh for fuck sake.

                                  [–]locke_door 112ポイント113ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Unbanned. What a shock. Love that consistent stance.

                                  [–]shittyredditsayers12 85ポイント86ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  That's admin approved harassment silly.

                                  [–]ImMufasa 65ポイント66ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  They're a protected class.

                                  [–]coldacid 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Some redditors are more equal than others.

                                  [–]aidotato5 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Because r/EllenPaongyang

                                  [–]CitizenPremier 30ポイント31ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                  Report it. They aren't able to act unless users report.

                                  [–]prince_of_tacoma 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  You can't report an entire subreddit and reporting posts on that subreddit only alerts the mods.

                                  [–]CitizenPremier 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  You can report anything by messaging the admins at the bottom.

                                  Remember, reddit's rules are ultimately about people and their actions. If you can see harassment but can't report it easily, just explain it. They have better investigation tools as well.

                                  [–]cynoclast 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  I have. They don't do anything about it because it's ApprovedHate™.

                                  [–]mapguy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Start a report brigade to ban them.

                                  [–]nlofe 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  Are you suggesting that the admins do what they want with the approval of the users?

                                  [–]CitizenPremier 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Sort of; the admins cannot act on content on Reddit unless users request that action. They can refuse to act on it though.

                                  [–]SweetDaddysOnHisWay 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Please

                                  [–]radicldreamer 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  I think it absolutely needs to go, but for some reason the powers that be at reddit are either part of the group, or afraid of them.

                                  They are a completely out of control hate group.

                                  [–]Guillaume_Langis 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  A subreddit 100% devoted to brigading.

                                  [–]Ihavenocomments 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  The admins never respond to direct questions about /r/shitredditsays. I wish they would respond, whether to defend or attack, I'd just like for them to pipe up. Just say something.

                                  [–]PavementBlues 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  Yeah, they just put themselves in a really tricky position. As a founder of a heavily moderated community, we found that in order to maintain the community's trust, any new rule had to be crystal clear and enforceable in such a manner that it left as little as possible to the individual moderator's personal judgment.

                                  We will ban subreddits that allow their communities to use the subreddit as a platform to harass individuals when moderators don’t take action.

                                  Well, how do you define harassment?

                                  From reddit's blog post:

                                  Systematic and/or continued actions to torment or demean someone in a way that would make a reasonable person conclude that reddit is not a safe platform to express their ideas or participate in the conversation, or fear for their safety or the safety of those around them.

                                  I have seen users demean other users in almost every subreddit on this site. If moderators are now personally responsible for teasing, that is an incredibly slippery slope.

                                  Now, one might think that the inclusion of "that would make a reasonable person conclude that reddit is not a safe platform to express their ideas" would help to mitigate against this, but what is safety? Given the subreddits that were banned as a result of this, the aforementioned "safety" clearly goes beyond physical safety and refers instead to being safe from personal attack.

                                  You might say, "But /r/fatpeoplehate isn't just a troll! It's a whole group of bullies!" That is fair, but this rule says nothing about banning subreddits based on their stated intention. The criteria revolve around how a subreddit is allowed to be used. So what constitutes a subreddit being allowed to be used for harassment? One unbanned troll? Ten? Should /r/AdviceAnimals be banned if they come up with a racist new meme?

                                  How many people and how much participation push user action into the realm of legitimate harassment?

                                  I trust the intentions of the reddit administrators and understand that they want their website to be a space for constructive discussion, but this is way too vague to be applied in any reasonable fashion. The fallout from this is going to be bad.

                                  [–]until0 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  I trust the intentions of the reddit administrators and understand that they want their website to be a space for constructive discussion

                                  Why? Why would you honestly trust their intentions here? They lately have been doing that complete opposite.

                                  [–]Sysiphuslove 13ポイント14ポイント  (22子コメント)

                                  I've never understood the particular hate for that sub. What do they do that /r/SubredditDrama doesn't?

                                  [–]Stratisphear 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                  Not enforce the use of np.

                                  [–]ValiantPie 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  That's a good point. /r/SubredditDrama is just as hateful nowadays.

                                  [–]LowSociety 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Please report anything you find hateful to us mods.

                                  [–]Sysiphuslove 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  I'm so interested in how people who demand the right to baselessly mock other people just cannot stomach it when they're shown up for being the dicks any reasonable person would find them to be.

                                  [–]MikoRiko 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  Anyone reading your question needs to understand that this is not a valid argument against hating SRS. I don't know if you intended it to be or not, but it is fallacious. It is an argument against /r/SubredditDrama if at all.

                                  [–]Sysiphuslove 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  'A valid argument against hating'? So reason demands I feel intense emotional aversion and if I can't cite sources, my failure to feel hatred for a subreddit is fallacious? That's awesome.

                                  [–]until0 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  Contradict themselves by using the website that they claim is the root of most evil, not realizing the hypocrisy as they themselves are using Reddit.

                                  All while claiming there is little good of any in Reddit, which would of course, include themselves.

                                  Not to mention they brigade constantly and refuse to think for themselves.

                                  SRD is just supposed to link to drama amongst the website, not promote it. There is a large difference in the theory of each, although the results may be similar.

                                  Also, it's a giant circlejerk, have you ever read the sidebar?

                                  [–]TrckRdr 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  No one's claiming that the website itself is the problem. It's the culture that's been created around it.

                                  [–]until0 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Multiple anecdotal experiences would contradict that.

                                  As would this quote:

                                  Have you recently read an upvoted Reddit comment that was bigoted, creepy, misogynistic, transphobic, racist, homophobic, or just reeking of unexamined, toxic privilege? Of course you have!

                                  If it's such a damning, unwelcome place, why would they spend any time here? Do you find yourself on hate filled forums?

                                  [–]docbloodmoney 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  both are terrible

                                  [–]TheShitlordBellossom 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  SRD isn't much better, they just happen to use np links

                                  [–]ActualyIzDolan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  /r/ShitRedditSays isn't actually what you'd think it is, it's like the extremist feminist sub on reddit.

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                                    [–]nlofe 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Ahahahahahaha

                                    Good one

                                    [–]UncleEggma 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    /r/shitredditsays is a mean-spirited and nasty place to be if you're not part of the circlejerk, but it certainly doesn't post pictures of actual people and call them disgusting names.

                                    [–]DOWNVOTES_SYNDROME 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    that's not the hate they're eliminating.

                                    [–]Mechakoopa 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    It's meta-hate, they only hate things that they've arbitrarily decided are hateful things to say.

                                    [–]Taedirk 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    And that's why this announcement post is just more hot air.

                                    [–]Daisy_DukeNukem 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    I'm glad the mods are looking to remove the ONLY active subreddit that brigades and harassed users!!!!! I HAVE HAD THEIR MODS HARASS ME AS WELL

                                    [–]dietotaku 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    It sounds like they are only banning subs that link to other social media profiles. Complaining on Reddit about and linking to things said on Reddit is fair game.

                                    [–]jonahandthewhales 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    That's going to stay because it's in line with civil discussion as per the community guidelines, amirite?

                                    [–]johnsmcjohn 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Or /r/candidfashionpolice?

                                    [–]ProudToBeAKraut 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    How about /r/childfree ?

                                    [–]nlofe 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    I like how it took two minutes from the creation of this post for someone to ask about SRS, and yet the admins have nothing to say.

                                    [–]PraisetheBenis 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    In mostly likely after SRSers and "good feminists" try to play the victim.

                                    [–]staffell 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    PLEASE

                                    [–]Hail_Zeus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Why the fuck would someone gild this comment?

                                    This person makes a solid point, but gilding goes directly toward paying the admins and supporting their shitty behavior

                                    [–]Spamcaster 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    SRS is actually celebrating this as a win for their subreddit...

                                    [–]CarrollQuigley 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Or /r/conspiratard.

                                    Not saying I support this policy. In fact, I'm opposed to it.

                                    But this bad new policy would, if applied honestly, result in the closure of /r/conspiratard.

                                    [–]RedSocks157 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Don't buy gold, the comment will still not be answered and you are giving reddit more money.

                                    [–]LexLugerChantSample -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                    Where is evidence it harasses people?

                                    [–]oceanjunkie 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    I don't know but I was looking at the comments in /r/BodyAcceptance for shits and giggles and some threads were obviously vote brigaded.

                                    Just look at this.

                                    Definitely does look stellar. That shit is a fucking planet.

                                    That is the only upvoted comment.

                                    [–]OMMFGitsAustin 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    What evidence is there that r/fatpeoplehate does? Any info linking to finding out who an individual is is censored just like the rest of reddit.

                                    [–]mainvolume -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Uh, at least put a trigger warning before you post. Stop raping my screen.

                                    [–]conspiracy_thug -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    Yeah how about those disgusting excuses from human beings.

                                    Ban them. That's a fucking hate group.

                                    [–]AssuredlyAThrowAway 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    Silence...

                                    Cowards.

                                    [–]5b3ll 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Unlike brave Ser Redditeur here!

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