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[–]SplodeyDope 1200ポイント1201ポイント1202ポイント 35分 前x3 (324子コメント)
How about /r/shitredditsays ?
[–]hestonkent 647ポイント648ポイント649ポイント 33分 前 (66子コメント)
or /r/coontown ?
[–]drift1122 307ポイント308ポイント309ポイント 28分 前 (40子コメント)
Ban fph but not this!? Wow reddit, just wow...
[–]DietsAreForHitler 178ポイント179ポイント180ポイント 24分 前 (24子コメント)
It's ridiculous. You can't change your race. You can change your weight.
[–]RVCFever 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 18分 前 (2子コメント)
they banned FPH because the sidebar image was pictures of imgur staff being exposed
[–]TupacalypseN0w 28ポイント29ポイント30ポイント 15分 前 (1子コメント)
Yea... How many black people are employed by reddit? How many overweight people are employed? I think looking at those numbers may give you a clue.
[–]RVCFever 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 11分 前 (0子コメント)
Yeah, cynical side of me just thinks they were embarrassed of some of their own getting shown.
[–]DatClimate 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 15分 前 (2子コメント)
I will start some subs called /r/smokerhate and /r/vapehate.
Both are despicable, unhealthy actions which cost billions in healthcare, and as such are just as deserving of hate as obesity.
[–]The_Wizard_Of_Wang 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2分 前 (0子コメント)
/r/smokerhate is already a thing.
[–]Deriksson 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2分 前 (0子コメント)
Not sure if meant to be ironic, but to say that vaping is despicable when it's much healthier than actually smoking is a bit ridiculous. If your comment was supposed to be a joke, I apologize
[–]leroybillybob 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 11分 前 (0子コメント)
Michael Jackson disagrees.
[–]Trippze 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 15分 前 (0子コメント)
i personally though fph was helping people
[–]fnoobreported 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 13分 前 (0子コメント)
It's not about race. It's about their behaviour.
[–]__________________l -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 6分 前 (0子コメント)
but muh condishuns
[–]CrimsonKings 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 4分 前 (1子コメント)
The difference is that /r/fatpeoplehate is completely sincere in their hatred.
[–]DietsAreForHitler 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 3分 前 (0子コメント)
Eh, I'm pretty sure most on /r/coontown are sincere.
[–]Obeeeee 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 15分 前 (0子コメント)
Shhh, they'll ban you too.
[–]vahntitrio 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 10分 前 (0子コメント)
Maybe the admins hadn't been made aware of that subreddit when they mafe this decision?
[–]zatan130 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6分 前 (0子コメント)
/r/fph focus on various tumblr users and such. /r/coontown and /r/gasthekikes just spew vitriol all over the place. It's the targeting of individuals that sets fph apart.
[–]Daisy_DukeNukem 29ポイント30ポイント31ポイント 27分 前 (2子コメント)
To be fair, all subs which are self contained should be free
[–]soundslikeponies 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 16分 前 (1子コメント)
IMO the main problem with /r/fatpeoplehate was that you were required to be subscribed to vote or comment on content, yet posts from there constantly hit the first page of /r/all.
It's baffling that a subreddit can have those rules and still be allowed to show up on /r/all. You would think having those rules would automatically opt them out of showing up on the front page.
[–]J4k0b42 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5分 前* (0子コメント)
They could have opted out if they wanted to, it's an option that moderators have.
Edit: http://imgur.com/eqcFOjp
[–]mracidglee 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 19分 前 (0子コメント)
Glancing briefly at /r/coontown, it seems like the sub doesn't have information which can be used for harassment IRL.
[–]Cialis_In_Wonderland 48ポイント49ポイント50ポイント 31分 前 (3子コメント)
They didn't do nuffin.
[–]dustfeather 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 8分 前 (0子コメント)
They didn't do nuffin
The gramatically correct term according to the Oxford Dictionary is
"Dindu Nuffin"
[+]conspiracy_thug スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 28分 前 (1子コメント)
Dey good boys finna get Der degrez in cooniology.
[–]TehAlpacalypse 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 26分 前 (0子コメント)
You guys are so edgy
[–]sleepsholymountain 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 21分 前 (5子コメント)
Interesting how SRS was the first thing that jumped to people's minds and not this. I guess mocking people for being ignorant douche bags is way worse than actual fucking bigotry to most redditors.
[–]Imacynicalasshole 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 15分 前 (3子コメント)
Because srs spills over into the rest of reddit and actually harasses people, coontown, as shitty as it is, is pretty self contained.
[–]DatClimate 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 12分 前 (2子コメント)
yeah, no one who uses the term "coon" has ever done anything as far as chasing down a black person and doing anything.
[–]docbloodmoney 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6分 前 (0子コメント)
yeah that was clearly redditors
[–]oss_spy 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 14分 前 (0子コメント)
That's quite a spin on reality. It's a shame that they've been shown to be shifty and abusive but get away with it.
[–]Nunoporing 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 19分 前 (0子コメント)
Oh god, my eyes.
I haven't seen the word "nigger" so many times in my life
[–]penguin8508 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 10分 前 (0子コメント)
Jesus Christ, wtf? I am thankful I didn't know this was out there and pissed as hell that mods are allowing it to be. Are you kidding?
[–]CookieDoughCooter 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 19分 前 (0子コメント)
If they start banning racist stuff, over half of all top comments would be gone.
[–]Poached_Polyps 279ポイント280ポイント281ポイント 33分 前 (50子コメント)
Oh I'm sure that one gets to stay.
[–]HannibalK 166ポイント167ポイント168ポイント 26分 前 (34子コメント)
Those fuckers are the most blantant vote manipulators out there.
At least subreddits like /r/bestof and /r/subredditdrama use the np. no participation links so their fans probably won't engage in vote manipulation.
But not shit reddit says lol. They know they have an admin shield.
[–]PmButtPics4ADrawing 61ポイント62ポイント63ポイント 15分 前 (5子コメント)
Lol are you kidding? /r/bestof is the biggest vote brigader on the site. Just last week there was a 3-day-old comment over in /r/plex with 7 points that got bestof'd and now it has 2,000 points and gold. The guy he was arguing with got to -500 before he deleted it.
[–]TehAlpacalypse 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 10分 前 (2子コメント)
Let's not forget that time /r/bestof defended a pedophile and upvoted him to 4k karma
[–]Suppafly 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 7分 前 (1子コメント)
When was that?
[–]TehAlpacalypse 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 6分 前 (0子コメント)
When Chris Hansen did an AMA iirc
[–]JJWattGotSnubbed -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 8分 前 (0子コメント)
I think he meant more that /r/SRS mods are more complicit, where /r/bestof brigading seems to be more incidental of what happens when /r/bestof likes a post.
[–]beetnemesis 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 17分 前 (9子コメント)
Question about the np extension- does it actually do anything? Sometimes I've forgotten it was there, and got a popup saying "you're in no participation mode, please don't vote or comment," but is it just a "suggestion?" Or are votes not ignored if they come from np?
[–]evilpenguin234 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 16分 前 (1子コメント)
/r/npmythos
[–]beetnemesis 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 8分 前 (0子コメント)
Hah, thank you.
[–]anotherpoweruser 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 11分 前 (1子コメント)
Voting is only disabled on subreddits that change their CSS to make you unable to vote/comment. If you disable CSS or on a mobile device or whatever, np makes no difference. You can also adjust RES settings to auto-disallow commenting and voting to protect yourself from accidentally participating.
[–]beetnemesis 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 9分 前 (0子コメント)
Interesting, thanks!
[–]Suppafly 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 7分 前 (0子コメント)
If they have sub specific css, they can prevent the voting or show you a message. You can turn off sub specific css in your settings though and then np links work just like regular links.
[–]andytuba 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 4分 前 (0子コメント)
It's a suggestion.
[–]Lunisare 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 14分 前 (0子コメント)
/r/bestof is by far the biggest vote manipulation subreddit lol. How many times has a comment been linked on bestof been upvoted to the thousands, while a comment disagreeing with that been downvoted to the thousands. Its just a matter of scale, the subreddit with almost 5 million members is going to out vote the shit out of the one with under 70 thousand.
[–]interfail 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 12分 前 (0子コメント)
Those fuckers are the most blantant vote manipulators out there. At least subreddits like /r/bestof and /r/subredditdrama use the np.
At least subreddits like /r/bestof and /r/subredditdrama use the np.
Are you crazy? Have you ever seen the relative size of a /r/bestof brigade and an SRS brigade? It's like comparing the Somme to a foodfight.
[–]EditorialComplex 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 9分 前 (2子コメント)
SRS these days pales in comparison to FPH, /r/KotakuInAction at least. The moderator of the recent Planetside kerfuffle had comments going back months downvoted en masse to -200 or lower. I wasn't around for the SRS heyday, but now it's a boogeyman and little more.
Before brigading, after brigading.
[–]Just_some_n00b 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 12分 前 (0子コメント)
FPH didn't use links at all. Specifically to prevent brigading and harassing outside of the sub.
[–]TotesMessenger 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6分 前 (0子コメント)
I'm a bot, bleep, bloop. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit:
[/r/npmythos] SRS doesn't use np because they are shielded by the admins.
[/r/srsmythos] "Those fuckers are the most blantant vote manipulators out there. At least subreddits like /r/bestof and /r/subredditdrama use the np. **no participation** links so their fans **probably** won't engage in vote manipulation. But not shit reddit says lol. They know they have an admin shield."
If you follow any of the above links, please respect the rules of reddit and don't vote in the other threads. (Info / Contact)
[–]nope_nic_tesla 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6分 前 (0子コメント)
SRS doesn't have a big enough user base to actually manipulate much
[–]Kradiant 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1分 前 (0子コメント)
From my experience SRS is one of the few subs that doesn't brigade whatsoever, since downvoting linked comments is actually counterproductive when their reason for existence is to showcase the popularity of shitty opinions.
[–]Apathie2 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 15分 前 (0子コメント)
probably
Kek
[–]TrckRdr 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2分 前 (0子コメント)
Probably because /r/shitredditsays isn't a problem.
[+]JThoms スコアが基準値未満のコメント-11ポイント-10ポイント-9ポイント 31分 前 (11子コメント)
I always thought those "shit XX-group says" were just comedy bits? that link is still blue so I have no idea what goes on behind those doors but could it really be that bad?
[–]S15R 23ポイント24ポイント25ポイント 27分 前 (0子コメント)
if you think social justice brigading reddit is awesome, srs is awesome.
if you don't, well, not so much.
[+]jonloovox スコアが基準値未満のコメント-12ポイント-11ポイント-10ポイント 30分 前* (3子コメント)
Yes. It's terrible.
Edit: spelling.
[–]TehAlpacalypse -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 30分 前* (2子コメント)
It hasn't been as bad as people have said for years, ever since VA went down SRS has been outnumbered by the subreddits they supposedly oppress by at least 2x the number of subs.
[–]Libertarian-Party 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 23分 前 (1子コメント)
Have you even been to that shithole?
[–]TehAlpacalypse 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 21分 前 (0子コメント)
Yeah I have, it's mostly just people circlejerking about this site. It's literally no different than 90% of this site.
[–]freak_step 280ポイント281ポイント282ポイント 32分 前 (97子コメント)
Seriously. Why is this subreddit not banned?
[–]NicknameUnavailable 191ポイント192ポイント193ポイント 27分 前 (6子コメント)
Because it is hate that aligns with political beliefs held by the admins.
[–]RoadToOneFifty 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2分 前 (0子コメント)
yep pretty much. SJW's are the new age fascists.
"your rights end where MUH FEELINGS begin"
[–]RamssesSeba 215ポイント216ポイント217ポイント 28分 前 (5子コメント)
The admins give SRS and all its sister subreddits carte blanche to do whatever they want because it's what a good feminist would do. You want to be a good feminist, don't you?
[–]EditorialComplex 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 6分 前 (0子コメント)
Whatever SRS does these days, it pales in comparison to the brigading by places like KotakuInAction, and the admins turn a blind eye to that, so calling it ideological really doesn't hold up.
[–]angrybovine1 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 4分 前 (0子コメント)
Fuck this site. The writings have been on the wall for a while, but now it's clear where reddits priorities lie, and it's not where Aaron Schwarz put them. Fuck all the admins, I'm headed to voat.co for good.
[–]Tangled2 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6分 前 (0子コメント)
"– Jessica (/u/5days), Ellen (/u/ekjp), Alexis (/u/kn0thing) & the rest of team reddit"
[–]sp0ck06 40ポイント41ポイント42ポイント 27分 前 (74子コメント)
Who are they harassing?
[–]gargoyle_mayonnaise 149ポイント150ポイント151ポイント 23分 前 (22子コメント)
Literally every thread on SRS targets an individual reddit user and encourages brigading.
I did not see /r/fatpeoplehate organize brigading of any kind. SRS copies user posts with usernames and all that. It's true harassment (whether the targets of harassment deserve it or not is irrelevant) whereas /r/fatpeoplehate was a sub for people to vent and complain about fat people, fat acceptance, etc.
[–]oceanjunkie 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 6分 前 (1子コメント)
Look at this thread.
Coincidentally, the only upvoted comment is calling OP a planet.
[–]gargoyle_mayonnaise 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント たった今 (0子コメント)
Yeah, I don't see that at all.
[–]boochyfliff 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 12分 前 (1子コメント)
/r/fatpeoplehate would literally harass and bully specific individuals. How many times were pictures of people in public or facebook posts put on that sub? Just look at how they put pictures of the Imgur staff on their sidebar the other day. That isn't venting or complaining about 'fat culture' or whatever those bullies like to call it, it's targeting specific individuals.
[–]_cortex 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント たった今 (0子コメント)
Well, most of the people that were on there didn't have their face and/or name shown (except for the 'celebrities' like Tess Munster). Also, when you don't care enough for your health or your looks to show yourself in public like that, I suspect having a photo of your arm or leg fat isn't going to bother you any further. And if it does bother you, then you can always do something about it! Source: used to be overweight as well.
[–]AKluthe 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1分 前 (0子コメント)
Venting is when you complain (usually privately) about an occurrence so you don't explode with anger in a damaging way.
In what way does that describe posting pictures of people you saw and hate entirely because they're overweight? And subscribing to a community dedicated to only doing that?
[–]TrckRdr 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント たった今 (0子コメント)
We can argue all day about whether subscribers actually brigade linked threads (and honestly, I don't believe it happens tremendously often), but saying that the subreddit encourages brigading is blatantly false.
[–]cdstephens 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6分 前 (0子コメント)
Actually, FPH brigaded plenty.
[+]nope_nic_tesla スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 21分 前 (8子コメント)
/r/fatpeoplehate organized a brigade of one of the subreddits I moderate on. Their moderators were even encouraging people to do it. I'd link you to the posts that were made there but obviously they are unavailable now
[–]Carinhas 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 16分 前 (5子コメント)
I'd link you to the posts that were made there but obviously they are unavailable now
Just a coincidence i'm sure.
[–]gargoyle_mayonnaise -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 14分 前 (0子コメント)
No it's because the sub is banned and all threads are wiped. You can't even see your own submissions or comments in your own history, if you had any.
[–]nope_nic_tesla -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 14分 前 (3子コメント)
The subreddit was banned, obviously it's impossible at this point even if I wanted to
[–]Carinhas -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 9分 前 (2子コメント)
If that had happened the subreddit would be in huge trouble and considering how many people hated /r/fatpeoplehate and were constantly looking at shit to report them for, something like admins promoting witch hunting would have been logged and reported by many people and would be a reason to instantly ban a subreddit that big.
[–]nope_nic_tesla 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 7分 前 (1子コメント)
If that had happened the subreddit would be in huge trouble
You mean like getting the whole subreddit banned? Like just happened?
[–]Carinhas 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1分 前 (0子コメント)
It would have gotten in trouble when it happened not weeks/months after and you are using the subreddit getting banned after weeks of discussion of "hate subs" being banned as a justification for unsourced/no proof claims of brigading.
[–]oceanjunkie 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5分 前 (0子コメント)
Was it this?
[–]gargoyle_mayonnaise -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 19分 前 (0子コメント)
Well I never saw it myself then. I'll take your word for it.
[–]GameDay98 103ポイント104ポイント105ポイント 24分 前 (29子コメント)
They brigade any subreddit that posts something they think is offensive.
[–]Vkmies 74ポイント75ポイント76ポイント 23分 前 (7子コメント)
something they think is offensive
Which is about 70% of all things that have ever existed.
[–]mungis 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 18分 前 (4子コメント)
That's conservative.
[–]TDKevin 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 12分 前 (1子コメント)
They jumped on me one time for saying something "offensive". Realizing a group of people were attacking me on the internet, finding out what SRS was, and then consequently realizing how insane they were, was a very odd moment considering how I generally try to never be offensive. It's very strange that they think a good solution is raising a mob, outnumbering their target, and then aggressively bullying them. Considering most SRS members probably got that experience in highschool, they should know it solves nothing, and does nothing but create an enemy on the other side.
[–]Vkmies 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3分 前 (0子コメント)
I think people get a kick out of feeling like they are fighting injustice. And in the age of the internet, you no longer have to actually act to do that. You don't have to put yourself on the line, drive actual change, work towards a better future. You just create an easy black and white situation in your head, put yourself on the "righteous" side and "fight" for "justice". Meaning, being an asshole on the internet. Thus they don't actually have to go through any trouble, make any true change or fight anything, but they get to feel like they are MLK himself. They get to feel like warriors for justice. While they are actually just being dicks on the internet.
That's my hypothesis at least.
[–]amazing_rando 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 10分 前* (0子コメント)
People blame SRS every time something edgy they wrote gets downvoted, but the majority of the time if you check the sub it hasn't even been posted there. It's a scapegoat.
You can even check. I never visit it, but if you look at their front page, every post linked has the number of points reported next to it. I went down the list, every single one is much higher now than when it was posted. If they're a downvote brigade they're extremely ineffective at best.
[–]lasershurt[🍰] 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 21分 前 (2子コメント)
Then report it, so they can be judged under this rule.
[–]offguard 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 19分 前 (1子コメント)
"Why did Serpico have to do the stuff he did? Why didn't he just call the police to report the other police who were doing bad things?"
Come on now.
[–]lasershurt[🍰] 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 11分 前 (0子コメント)
Poor example. You have no proof that there's a double standard, so make sure you DO report things. Then you have documented proof that it's happening, and people are reporting it.
[–]HannibalK 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 21分 前 (0子コメント)
Literally bridgae, they don't use no participation links. It's pathetically obvious.
[–]Schemes011 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 21分 前 (1子コメント)
Examples of brigades? They've got like 60k subs how can they perform any brigades
[–]TehAlpacalypse 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 9分 前 (0子コメント)
There aren't any, if SRS did even half the brigades that supposedly happened it would be brutally obvious. They even have a bot that charts the karma scores onposts after they get linked to SRS and it almost never shows a dent
[–]BreakfastIsComing 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 21分 前 (0子コメント)
or problematic
[–]notevilcraze 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 21分 前 (0子コメント)
If so they're bad at it. All the supposedly "brigaded" posts have risen in score, on their front page...
[–]pfohl 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 18分 前 (0子コメント)
Evidently not. Admins can actually see which subs are brigading, they don't do the whole "post hoc ergo propter hoc" thing you're doing.
[–]sp0ck06 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 21分 前 (3子コメント)
Oh i see. Got some specific examples?
[–]Extradaemon 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 13分 前 (0子コメント)
Any sources for that?
[–]celocanth13 -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 19分 前 (5子コメント)
Oh, so /r/KotakuInAction should be banned too? If you dislike brigades I'm sure you agree KiA should be banned.
[–]Danzerello 20ポイント21ポイント22ポイント 23分 前* (7子コメント)
One time I made a joke about a dad not finding his daughter attractive and about 30 (not 100-200, I was way off) people insisted I was a homophobic bigot, for one.
[–]mungis 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 18分 前 (0子コメント)
You're a homophobic bigot for not agreeing with those 100-200 people.
[–]DepreciateZero 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 11分 前 (1子コメント)
Your joke was literally just "Gaaaaaay"
[–]IAmTheBauss 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 10分 前 (1子コメント)
Not that i'm disagreeing with you but can you link that comment or thread maybe?
[–]Danzerello 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 7分 前 (0子コメント)
I'll try. I didn't see the thread I just had friends tell me my comment was posted there, but I'll take a gander.
[–]theruins 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2分 前 (0子コメント)
Do you have a link?
[–]AssuredlyAThrowAway 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 16分 前 (2子コメント)
Are you not aware of what happened during thw reddit bomb/project panda?
Back when srs was nothing more than a thread behind the somethingawful paywall, they setup /r/preteengirls and filled it with actual cp. They the emailed anderson cooper about their own sub and used that external pressure to help the admins solve the "free speech problem" that was /r/jailbait.
The admins hands off treatment of srs, and this new change in policy, is a thank you to groups like that who used harassment and briagdes to change reddits internal culture to the point where a change like this was able to happen without the admins fearing a loss of their 500 million dollar valuation.
If reddit had any soul left, this will be her v4.
[–]PmButtPics4ADrawing -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 21分 前 (0子コメント)
Nobody. A lot of redditors seem to be under the impression that calling someone out on making a bigoted comment is on the same level as taking photographs of people without their permission and posting them publicly on the internet for the sole purpose of mocking them.
[–]NotKateBush 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 19分 前 (1子コメント)
The racists brigade the news subreddits sometimes, but the FPH reactionaries show up like everytime there's a post involving a fat person. They do a lot of harassment, while the racists just do their racist thing.
[–]freak_step 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 14分 前 (0子コメント)
I don't mind fph getting banned at all. However, if this banning harrassing subs is going to be arbitrarily applied, don't even start.
[–]sillyinches 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 17分 前 (0子コメント)
easy.
– Jessica (/u/5days), Ellen (/u/ekjp), Alexis (/u/kn0thing)
read the names.
[–]soulteepee 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 16分 前 (0子コメント)
They haven't chosen to leave it. In the announcement, they ask that you report subreddits that you feel should be banned. After its reported, then people can get angry if its still allowed to exist. I'd imagine with all the outcry about it right now, I'd hope its on their list to review.
[+]MarshallBanana スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 26分 前 (4子コメント)
Probably because it doesn't harass people.
Just guessing wildly here.
[–]TotesMessenger 66ポイント67ポイント68ポイント 26分 前* (4子コメント)
[/r/shitredditsays] [On the subject of FPH being banned] "How about /r/shitredditsays ?" [+408]
[/r/srsmythos] With fatpeoplehate banned, the redditors ask: what about SRS? "The admins give SRS and all its sister subreddits carte blanche to do whatever they want"
[/r/whataboutsrs] Harassing subreddits banned, but what about srs?!
[/r/whataboutsrs] [FPH gets banned] BUT WHAT ABOUT SRS?!?
[–]Ihavenocomments 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 21分 前 (0子コメント)
Damn, that was quick.
[–]Brimshae 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 8分 前 (0子コメント)
Speaking of vote brigading, hi, Totes bot...
[–]--tomo 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 11分 前 (0子コメント)
Lol these fuckers are so self absorbed they have an entire subreddit dedicated to people talking about their main subreddit? You can't make this shit up
[–]Asha108 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 7分 前 (0子コメント)
How meta.
[–]locke_door 97ポイント98ポイント99ポイント 33分 前 (0子コメント)
Unbanned. What a shock. Love that consistent stance.
[–]shittyredditsayers12 67ポイント68ポイント69ポイント 29分 前 (0子コメント)
That's admin approved harassment silly.
[–]ImMufasa 54ポイント55ポイント56ポイント 32分 前 (1子コメント)
They're a protected class.
[–]coldacid 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 15分 前 (0子コメント)
Some redditors are more equal than others.
[–]aidotato5 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 19分 前 (0子コメント)
Because r/EllenPaongyang
[–]CitizenPremier 28ポイント29ポイント30ポイント 30分 前 (5子コメント)
Report it. They aren't able to act unless users report.
[–]prince_of_tacoma 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 25分 前 (1子コメント)
You can't report an entire subreddit and reporting posts on that subreddit only alerts the mods.
[–]CitizenPremier 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 23分 前 (0子コメント)
You can report anything by messaging the admins at the bottom.
Remember, reddit's rules are ultimately about people and their actions. If you can see harassment but can't report it easily, just explain it. They have better investigation tools as well.
[–]cynoclast 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 19分 前 (1子コメント)
I have. They don't do anything about it because it's ApprovedHate™.
[–]mapguy 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 23分 前 (0子コメント)
Start a report brigade to ban them.
[–]SweetDaddysOnHisWay 25ポイント26ポイント27ポイント 32分 前 (0子コメント)
Please
[–]radicldreamer 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 26分 前 (0子コメント)
I think it absolutely needs to go, but for some reason the powers that be at reddit are either part of the group, or afraid of them.
They are a completely out of control hate group.
[–]UncleEggma 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 20分 前 (0子コメント)
/r/shitredditsays is a mean-spirited and nasty place to be if you're not part of the circlejerk, but it certainly doesn't post pictures of actual people and call them disgusting names.
[–]Taedirk 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 14分 前 (0子コメント)
And that's why this announcement post is just more hot air.
[–]Sysiphuslove 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 24分 前 (18子コメント)
I've never understood the particular hate for that sub. What do they do that /r/SubredditDrama doesn't?
[–]Stratisphear 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 19分 前 (3子コメント)
Not enforce the use of np.
[–]evilpenguin234 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 12分 前 (1子コメント)
[–]MyAssTakesMastercard 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 8分 前 (0子コメント)
That's a dumb excuse. NP is literally useless. It does nothing.
[–]ValiantPie 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 11分 前 (2子コメント)
That's a good point. /r/SubredditDrama is just as hateful nowadays.
[–]LowSociety 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 4分 前 (0子コメント)
Please report anything you find hateful to us mods.
[–]Sysiphuslove 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3分 前 (0子コメント)
I'm so interested in how people who demand the right to baselessly mock other people just cannot stomach it when they're shown up for being the dicks any reasonable person would find them to be.
[–]MikoRiko 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 9分 前 (1子コメント)
Anyone reading your question needs to understand that this is not a valid argument against hating SRS. I don't know if you intended it to be or not, but it is fallacious. It is an argument against /r/SubredditDrama if at all.
'A valid argument against hating'? So reason demands I feel intense emotional aversion and if I can't cite sources, my failure to feel hatred for a subreddit is fallacious? That's awesome.
[–]until0 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5分 前* (0子コメント)
Contradict themselves by using the website that they claim is the root of most evil, not realizing the hypocrisy as they themselves are using Reddit.
All while claiming there is little good of any in Reddit, which would of course, include themselves.
Not to mention they brigade constantly and refuse to think for themselves.
SRD is just supposed to link to drama amongst the website, not promote it. There is a large difference in the theory of each, although the results may be similar.
Also, it's a giant circlejerk, have you ever read the sidebar?
[–]docbloodmoney 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 4分 前 (0子コメント)
both are terrible
[–]TheShitlordBellossom 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント たった今 (0子コメント)
SRD isn't much better, they just happen to use np links
[–]ActualyIzDolan 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント たった今 (0子コメント)
/r/ShitRedditSays isn't actually what you'd think it is, it's like the extremist feminist sub on reddit.
[–]Guillaume_Langis 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 24分 前 (0子コメント)
A subreddit 100% devoted to brigading.
[–]nlofe 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 22分 前 (0子コメント)
Ahahahahahaha
Good one
[–]DOWNVOTES_SYNDROME 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 27分 前 (1子コメント)
that's not the hate they're eliminating.
[–]Mechakoopa 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 7分 前 (0子コメント)
It's meta-hate, they only hate things that they've arbitrarily decided are hateful things to say.
[+]derridad スコアが基準値未満のコメント-21ポイント-20ポイント-19ポイント 29分 前* (32子コメント)
Oh man, this shit again. Can someone give me an example of how SRS actually harrases people? Other than baseless claims of brigading, like that's even a big deal. Making fun of people for making "edgy" jokes on Reddit isn't an attempt to come for yer freeze peaches. Criticism of speech isn't abridgement. Being a racist isn't a sacred, protected identity.
[–]GTS250 27ポイント28ポイント29ポイント 26分 前 (6子コメント)
You're kinda undermining your point, if you say that the claims are baseless but immediately double back and say "oh they don't do it much"
[–]nacholicious 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 18分 前 (1子コメント)
Every meta subreddit brigades, every single one (especially bestof and subreddit drama). Saying that they brigade is an inherently meaningless statement, the interesting part is whether they brigade more than other meta subs which the admins have stated SRS does not
[–]GTS250 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 13分 前 (0子コメント)
Fair enough.
[–]LastArg 18ポイント19ポイント20ポイント 24分 前 (7子コメント)
They're entirely devoted to mocking and attacking other users. I don't know if there's any direct action but that feels like harassment....
[–]UncleEggma -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 17分 前 (6子コメント)
mocking, yes. attacking, no.
mocking != harassment.
[–]SuperShake66652 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 15分 前 (2子コメント)
Clearly it does, or FPH wouldn't have been nuked. It was a horrid shithole, but that's the same reason it got banned.
[–]UncleEggma 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6分 前 (1子コメント)
Mocking is me taking something you say, making fun of what you said, exaggerating the tone, etc.
What fph did was show images of people, and blast them with disgusting comments and insults. It was hate speech.
There is a difference between hate speech and mockery. SRS probably has some hateful comments, but that is literally what fph was made for.
That being said, the subreddits in question got removed for harassment, which is something, as far as I'm aware, neither fph, and definitely not srs, were guilty of.
[–]SuperShake66652 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント たった今 (0子コメント)
SRS blasts people with horrible insults all the time, and despite your denial is the whole purpose of the sub. They aren't helping anyone, just pointing at things people post and insulting them. You can claim it's okay because they only post "offensive" things from reddit, but it's exactly what they do.
[–]Raidicus 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 20分 前 (0子コメント)
http://www.reddit.com/r/SRSsucks/comments/1yhswb/a_brief_compilation_of_srs_doxxing_brigading_and/
[+]lakelly99 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8ポイント-7ポイント-6ポイント 25分 前 (2子コメント)
Calling people out on racism, sexism, homophobia = literally harassment
SRS doesn't harass. Or brigade. Hell, they've only got 65k subs, that's not even enough to brigade effectively.
[–]Sureiyaa 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 24分 前 (1子コメント)
And I'd say at least half of those subscribers aren't even members of the "SRS community". They're just other redditors who want to bitch about it.
[–]lakelly99 -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 22分 前 (0子コメント)
Yep. Visit literally any upvoted post there and you'll see it's somewhere between 60% and 75% upvoted because a ton of people stay there to take away SRS' PRECIOUS KARMA
[–]BarbatisCollum -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 24分 前 (0子コメント)
Don't hold your breath waiting on actual examples, although you will probably get plenty of "i heard they doxxed someone" claims.
[–]pretty-inpunk 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5分 前 (0子コメント)
My favourite is how I'm seeing the same people in this thread going "oh NO deleting FPH is clearly censorship because you know it's not like making fun of fat people is accepted anywhere else on reddit!!!! you can't delete subreddits based on OPINION" and then going "you know SRS should really be deleted, they disagree with me."
Like, if deleting a subreddit based on "opinion" (this is ignoring the harassment FPH participated in) is /r/oppression, deleting SRS would be just as bad, wouldn't it?
[–]prince_of_tacoma 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 24分 前 (4子コメント)
Can you give us an actual example of how fph harasses people? I find fph as gross as anyone but their hatred was confined.
[–]derridad -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 21分 前 (3子コメント)
Being racist /= being overweight
[+]beelzeflub スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 24分 前 (0子コメント)
People making argument against SRS are butthurt because they are offended that people think sexist/racist/distasteful content is unacceptable.
[–]Daisy_DukeNukem 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 28分 前 (0子コメント)
I'm glad the mods are looking to remove the ONLY active subreddit that brigades and harassed users!!!!! I HAVE HAD THEIR MODS HARASS ME AS WELL
[–]AssuredlyAThrowAway 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 22分 前 (0子コメント)
Silence...
Cowards.
[–]conspiracy_thug -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 29分 前 (1子コメント)
Yeah how about those disgusting excuses from human beings.
Ban them. That's a fucking hate group.
[–]LexLugerChantSample -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 27分 前 (3子コメント)
Where is evidence it harasses people?
[–]oceanjunkie 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 11分 前 (0子コメント)
I don't know but I was looking at the comments in /r/BodyAcceptance for shits and giggles and some threads were obviously vote brigaded.
Just look at this.
Definitely does look stellar. That shit is a fucking planet.
That is the only upvoted comment.
[–]OMMFGitsAustin 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 19分 前 (1子コメント)
What evidence is there that r/fatpeoplehate does? Any info linking to finding out who an individual is is censored just like the rest of reddit.
[–]LexLugerChantSample 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 17分 前 (0子コメント)
https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/31sq0d/memeber_rfatpeoplehate_gets_banned_for_brigading/
Plus the whole creepshots aspect of it might be considered harassment.
[–]dietotaku 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 21分 前 (0子コメント)
It sounds like they are only banning subs that link to other social media profiles. Complaining on Reddit about and linking to things said on Reddit is fair game.
[–]jonahandthewhales 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 15分 前 (0子コメント)
That's going to stay because it's in line with civil discussion as per the community guidelines, amirite?
[–]johnsmcjohn 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 12分 前 (0子コメント)
Or /r/candidfashionpolice?
[–]Ihavenocomments 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 10分 前 (0子コメント)
The admins never respond to direct questions about /r/shitredditsays. I wish they would respond, whether to defend or attack, I'd just like for them to pipe up. Just say something.
[–]ProudToBeAKraut 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 7分 前 (0子コメント)
How about /r/childfree ?
[–]nlofe 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 4分 前 (0子コメント)
I like how it took two minutes from the creation of this post for someone to ask about SRS, and yet the admins have nothing to say.
[–]PraisetheBenis 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3分 前 (0子コメント)
In mostly likely after SRSers and "good feminists" try to play the victim.
[–]PavementBlues 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2分 前 (0子コメント)
Yeah, they just put themselves in a really tricky position. As a founder of a heavily moderated community, we found that in order to maintain the community's trust, any new rule had to be crystal clear and enforceable in such a manner that it left as little as possible to the individual moderator's personal judgment.
We will ban subreddits that allow their communities to use the subreddit as a platform to harass individuals when moderators don’t take action.
Well, how do you define harassment?
From reddit's blog post:
Systematic and/or continued actions to torment or demean someone in a way that would make a reasonable person conclude that reddit is not a safe platform to express their ideas or participate in the conversation, or fear for their safety or the safety of those around them.
I have seen users demean other users in almost every subreddit on this site. If moderators are now personally responsible for teasing, that is an incredibly slippery slope.
Now, one might think that the inclusion of "that would make a reasonable person conclude that reddit is not a safe platform to express their ideas" would help to mitigate against this, but what is safety? Given the subreddits that were banned as a result of this, the aforementioned "safety" clearly goes beyond physical safety and refers instead to being safe from personal attack.
You might say, "But /r/fatpeoplehate isn't just a troll! It's a whole group of bullies!" That is fair, but this rule says nothing about banning subreddits based on their stated intention. The criteria revolve around how a subreddit is allowed to be used. So what constitutes a subreddit being allowed to be used for harassment? One unbanned troll? Ten? Should /r/AdviceAnimals be banned if they come up with a racist new meme?
How many people and how much participation push user action into the realm of legitimate harassment?
I trust the intentions of the reddit administrators and understand that they want their website to be a space for constructive discussion, but this is way too vague to be applied in any reasonable fashion. The fallout from this is going to be bad.
[+]sleepsholymountain スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10ポイント-9ポイント-8ポイント 29分 前* (4子コメント)
They said "harassment" not "making fun of you for being an asshole."
[–]Sysiphuslove 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 23分 前 (0子コメント)
Mocking behavior is a lot different from mocking appearance. Especially when the behavior in question is mostly glass-house stone-throwing anyway.
[–]mainvolume -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 30分 前 (0子コメント)
Uh, at least put a trigger warning before you post. Stop raping my screen.
[–]vexinom 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 21分 前 (0子コメント)
Why would that subreddit be banned? There are only articles about the mods harassing suicidal people in other subreddits, brigading while doing it of course.
The admins don't give a shit because it's the type of harassment they support. If it caused someone they don't like to kill themselves, even better in their opinion.
[–]stopscopiesme -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 26分 前 (1子コメント)
if the admins take ANY comminity-management action, there is always a highly upvoted comment asking "what about SRS?!?!"
jesus christ reddit, you unoriginal fucks. I get tired of reading the exact same circlejerk in these threads, over and over, spanning literal years. I suppose I'm the minority in this, or it wouldn't always get upvoted to the top. It derails the conversation uselessly, because it's produced nothing of value the last 5000 times the circlejerk was had
[–]denexiar 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6分 前 (0子コメント)
For the people that legitimately want something do be done about SRS, ceasing to mention is won't do anything, so all they can do is mention it.
Circlejerking is destructive but when faced with it what else can you do?
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