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[–]nsto 527ポイント528ポイント  (188子コメント)

Did /r/fatpeoplehate actually harass people outside of the subreddit?

[–]HarpoC 378ポイント379ポイント  (37子コメント)

Nope.

Interesting how /r/coontown still exists.

Being fat is a choice and I will hate them all I want. Apparently that's "harrasment", but hating black people is totally ok? Thanks reddit.

[–]NicknameUnavailable 67ポイント68ポイント  (5子コメント)

/r/coontown has over 10,000 subscribers - looks like they would have had to stop feigning only 1 subreddit was impacted. It will probably get banned in this round of purges, just not in the announcement.

If there's anything Reddit admins love, it's helping kill free speech by carefully manipulating the user base and being just free enough to remain the only game in town.

[–]fnoobreported 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

it has been banned before. and currently it applies to the rules so sh

[–]TUXPANDA 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hey then y not just take down all political subreddits while we're at it right?

[–]NicknameUnavailable 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because they are trying to push a liberal viewpoint under the guise of fair and balanced opinions. They have to carefully cull the objecting viewpoints at the right moments while simultaneously cultivating them to get that secondary view and teach people to combat it. Reddit is a site for ideological warfare on behalf of socialists, communists and other liberal scum.

[–]B_Rhino 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

google voat.

Go there, stay there.

[–]HomelessHamSandwich 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why do so many people bring up free speech whenever Reddit and its admins/mods do anything? Reddit is a purely private entity, they could remove every single subreddit if they felt like it. I say good riddance. If you feel censored here, then you're more than free to take your content/speech elsewhere.

[–]FrankFeTched 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe those damn blacks need to get to work and lose some of their pigment and become white.

Fat people were born that way, they can't help it.

[–]SUSAN_IS_A_BITCH 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'd rather have a community of people who choose to be fat than people who choose to be bullies.

Also, didn't imgur just prevent /r/fatpeoplehate from publishing their harassing images to the imgur community? So it was leaking off of reddit.

[–]dragon_nipples 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

lol harassing images. How exactly are the images harassing anyone? People's names were always blocked out. Its not illegal to take a picture of someone.

I don't think you are using the right term here, nobody on FPH was harassing anyone.

Imgur like reddit is full of fat pigs that don't like seeing the truth and their feelings got hurt.

[–]p0x0rz 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, that's the only possible explanation.

[–]SUSAN_IS_A_BITCH 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

nobody on FPH was harassing anyone.

Imgur like reddit is full of fat pigs that don't like seeing the truth and their feelings got hurt.

[–]aeriis 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

/r/coontown should 100% be banned. but /r/fatpeoplehate does harass people outside of the subreddit. random campaigns to post "obesity is not a disability" stickers over handicap signs.

[–]eaglezhigher 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Interesting how /r/coontown still exists.

Following rules allows us to exist.

[–]_akrom 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seems I will not have a safe place to talk shit on fat people. Going to have to do it publicly.

[–]armchairepicure 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Of course they do. They show up and say nasty things on /r/sex all the time.

[–]oO0OoO0OoO0Oo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Being fat is a choice

If you had parents that had bad dietary habits and you've become morbidly obese and it becomes a downward spiral, how is that a choice?

[–]theneublack -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

No one said you couldn't be a useless asshole to society, we just want to make sure you know we feel you are, unanimously

edit: u mad

[–]mrpopenfresh -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd rather racists all get cooped up into one subreddit. Fat haters aren't as virulent, and they won't start being haters outside that sub like racists might be.

[–]Fixhotep -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

you're an ignorant fuck lol

[–]yeaiwentthere 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

I love how everyone is saying no, but they actually have. Most recently someone took pics from a /r/keto post and not only posted to FPH, but also got in a huge argument with a lot of members there. That's not the only time I've seen FPH in the wild.

[–]Stryker88 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Something similar happened in /r/sewing of all places. They get around.

[–]TahaI 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly i dont care if people are racist, fatshame, sexist or anything really. It bothers me more that they feel the need to harass innocent people and then pat each other on the back for it. Have your opinions. Discuss them. Dont be a cunt. - my holy book.

[–]drtig 14ポイント15ポイント  (5子コメント)

no, their rules specifically stated not to brigade.

[–]KaonPlus -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

oohh ok, as long as the sidebar says so then it doesn't happen!

I mean when did you ever hear of SRD brigading.

[–]drtig 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

so by that logic, I can go to any other subreddit and spout crap about how much I hate skinny people, and then get one of the fat acceptances reddits banned... such delusion.

[–]MilhouseJr -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Rules mean nothing when they're not enforced.

[–]drtig 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

How do you enforce rules outside of your own subreddit? Do u want the mods to comb through the post history of every poster to make sure they don't brigade? Furthermore, if you posted anything on the subreddit that showed clear brigading the post was removed immediately.

[–]MilhouseJr 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

At the very least, NP links should be forced when submitting a Reddit URL. AFAIK FPH had no such stance on NP links.

Secondly, they refused to acknowledge brigading, turning a blind eye when they could easily have made an example of someone. That's deliberate non-enforcement.

[–]BarbatisCollum 97ポイント98ポイント  (62子コメント)

Their sidebar image was pictures of the employees of imgur.com and some snide comments about their weight, so I would say they were.

[–]nsto 61ポイント62ポイント  (7子コメント)

Okay but if they're keeping it in the sub and the people in question are unaware that doesn't really fit the definition of harassment.

[–]IEatYourFruitLoops 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea, exactly. This isn't about harassment at all. It's about people being uncomfortable with what other people think.

[–]Dubzil 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Okay but if they're keeping it in the sub

That sub leaks all over Reddit. These sad excuses for humans preach their hate in every sub they go to.

[–]dietotaku 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

They were basically doxxing people in order to ridicule them for being fat, how is that not harassment?

[–]fluffingtonthefifth 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They were not doxed. The employees are pictured on a public page on imgur. The image even went a step further and removed their names. Learn what doxing is before you spout rubbish.

[–]faore 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Okay but if they're keeping it in the sub and the people in question are unaware that doesn't really fit the definition of harassment.

Oh yeah there's no way imgur could have found their way into the fascist bubble, it's not like it was on the internet

[–]sickduck22 -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's okay to make fun of someone as long as they're unaware?

[–]nsto 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Where did I say it was okay?

I just said that it wasn't harassment.

[–]sgtmas2006 137ポイント138ポイント  (43子コメント)

It's not outside of the subreddit. Reddit hasn't been a place for freedom of speech for a long time.

[–]Alpaca_Rancher 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

The Mods aren't to blame for that one, if you don't follow Reddit Hivemind you'll be downvoted into the extremes. Reddit users are quicker to get things shut down, /r/fatpeoplehate was something that many different hivemind groups here have deemed as despicable because apparently it's okay hate on things out of people's control like straight white males but not life choices like being morbidly obese.

[–]sgtmas2006 -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

Reddit is an insane place.

[–]Alpaca_Rancher 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I've seen when true anonymity occurs being gain the freedom to say what they truly feel, I.E. 4chan. However when you attach a name to yourself you start to think of that as yourself, and when you attach a meaningless number to it competitiveness gets the worst in people.

Honestly I think the best thing for reddit as a whole is to get rid of karma and use upvoting and downvoting for purely visibility status.

[–]sgtmas2006 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

4Chan isn't really a place for freedom of speech anymore. 8chan is more so, but still not truly free.

[–]Alpaca_Rancher 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thats only because the random page is modded by the Feds. They somehow think 4chan is the masterminds behind a child porn ring or something. 4chan can't mastermind their way out of a paper bag.

[–]faore -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's an insane place because fascists like you think hating a fat person is a positive thing to do.

[–]sgtmas2006 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fascists? Apparently I'm a fascist now for supporting freedom of speech. I don't care what you do with it, as long as you have it.

[–]lakelly99 27ポイント28ポイント  (5子コメント)

you don't have the right of freedom of speech on a privately owned website. get the fuck over it

[–]NominalCaboose 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

"You have to listen to me say whatever I want!"

[–]ulmon 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Obviously you don't, but freedom of speech is a moral good whether you have the legal right to it or not.

Therefore you can bash reddit for not living up to the moral standards that you may hold (as people do with lots of other moral things) even though they are not legally required to do so.

[–]SelcouthBadger 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They didn't claim that they have that right, just that this site doesn't foster freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is a concept that (believe it or not) exists outside of the U.S. Constitution. One can infringe freedom of speech regardless of whether or not the law applies.

Also, responding with such vitriol is not a good way to have civilized discourse over an issue.

[–]SelcouthBadger 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They didn't claim that they have that right, just that this site doesn't foster freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is a concept that (believe it or not) exists outside of the U.S. Constitution. One can infringe freedom of speech regardless of whether or not the law applies.

Also, responding with such vitriol is not a good way to have civilized discourse over an issue.

[–]sgtmas2006 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's why I don't use the site for freedom of speech. There are many better ways and I am working on one of my own.

[–]IsThatSickInFinnish 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

That is exactly harassing people. If you don't see that then just ignore this policy forever because it's going to cause you nothing but anger and confusion.

[–]sgtmas2006 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not really harassment if it's inside of the sub, it's in-talk gossip. Is it 'morally correct?' Probably not, but morals shouldn't sway the tides of free speech to prefer one side.

[–]Technician90 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

that's right, its all about safe spaces now

[–]portugalthephilosoph 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

According to our excellent new CEO Mrs. /u/ekjp, "It's not our site's goal to be a completely free-speech platform".

Mrs. Pao, I'm sorry, but we prefer free speech over morality police. "Every man is responsible for his own soul", remember?

[–]sgtmas2006 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's morality police to protect the special flowers of the site.

[–]Sysiphuslove -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh, freedom to ruthlessly hassle and bully others for the way they look? Go back to grade school.

[–]sgtmas2006 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, Reddit has shut people down for less. It's for-profit and not to benefit the user. It's a disgusting money machine which has been proven to be easily influenced, in turn influencing people of the site.

[–]ImReallyHighBut -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's for marketing doritos and clintons

[–]III000III 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Posting a cruel picture on a site that the individual doesn't have to look at isn't harassment.

[–]Theige 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's not harassment, they're just mocking them

[–]ApplicableSongLyric 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So now the bigger picture comes into view.

[–]Fragsworth 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not saying it was right, but they only did that because evidently imgur was deleting all of their images.

[–]ThrowawayShitlord777 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It wasn't outside of the subreddit, plus if they didn't want their pictures posted, why would they post their pictures up in the first place? No one was harassing them. They are just butt hurt fattys.

[–]factorV 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sorry, but whether you like it or not, that is not harassment.

[–]go_sens -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's only because many imgur admins are lardbuckets. Imgur doesn't give two flying fucks about pictures that are horribly racist, but make fun of a fat person? Well that picture's going down!

[–]Endless_Summer -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Snide comments is not harassment.

[–]PoopsieDoodles 39ポイント40ポイント  (14子コメント)

I think there were a few cases where members of /r/fatpeoplehate harassed people in /r/loseit and similar weight-loss subreddits where overweight people posted pictures.

[–]Erj2969 24ポイント25ポイント  (3子コメント)

Shouldn't the mods of said sub ban them?

[–]i_heart_calibri_12pt 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's the point, they didn't. It then became a problem and the mods still didn't do anything so now it's gone.

[–]tichondrius 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

They do, generally. The mods over at FPH were very adamant about banning people who broke rules.

[–]aeriis 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

the mods of that subreddit encourage it and ban people with any criticism.

[–]FuzzyBacon 43ポイント44ポイント  (1子コメント)

So ban those people, not the entire subreddit.

[–]Lookoutbehind 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can I ask why you need that subreddit? Or what it does for you? Like do you go there to laugh, or to make yourself feel better or what? Just curious.

[–]jonahandthewhales 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah because isolated cases are reflective of fph as a whole and the other subs have never bridgaded fph.

[–]Dananddog 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, they would have been brigading and banned for it.

Lone trolls will do as trolls do. this is not the responsibility of a whole sub of 150K people.

[–]RVCFever 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You don't judge a community as big as /r/FPH was by the actions of a few members

[–]ponyproblematic 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

There were definitely at least a few incidents that I recall in /r/makeupaddiction where users were brigaded and sent hateful comments and PMs.

[–]Shark_Fucker 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They must ban r/loseit if there's hate speech and harassment going on.. I mean it's only going to get worse if the shitlords can't get it out on fph anymore.

[–]IEatYourFruitLoops -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm pretty sure every sub has their share of bad apples, but no outside harassment was ever condoned by FPH.

[–]Schemes011 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Members of FPH" their mods harassed on /rloseit?

[–]SanguisFluens -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

IIRC they were banned from both subreddits. /r/fatpeoplehate had a clear message, and it did not include doing stuff like that.

[–]CUNexTuesday 82ポイント83ポイント  (7子コメント)

Of course not, but you know SJW's gotta SJW

[–]cointelpro_shill -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

a little bit of that 'harassment' was me I helping some fatties report unauthorized sexual content because that is explicitly banned.

i did it because this place is lame though. we shouldn't have to share a democracy with idiots who still upvote advice animals and pleb shitposts. we need to go to voat

[–]Dahaka_plays_Halo 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Of course they did. Threads in /r/fitness were regularly brigaded. Any time a picture of a fat person appeared on a default subreddit, it would be linked to /r/fatpeoplehate, and the hate would start rolling in.

[–]Alas123623 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Except the hate would be contained to FPH because FPH didn't allow linking to other parts of reddit.

[–]Cookalooka 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

They actually did recently. a Youtuber commented about how much she hated the subreddit, and said her worst fear would be to posted about in that subreddit. No more than a few hours later, /r/fatpeoplehate hate put a picture of her face on the side bar. It was a pretty cruel subreddit

[–]Werner__Herzog 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

You just need to go through the comments here, there's already at least one.

[–]mrhorrible 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

go through the comments "here"?

So... does that mean /r/announcements should be banned?

[–]Werner__Herzog 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Depends on how you interpret this announcement. The way I understand it, as long as people keep to themselves (i.e. stay in their subs) and don't talk about individuals they can stay. But as soon as they band together to harass people outside of their subs they can get banned.

We will see how the admins will act on it in the future.

[–]leroybillybob 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I tried to do just that but apparently it's not possible to "keep everyone safe."

[–]SUSAN_IS_A_BITCH 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Imgur banned them from publishing photos (not uploading them) for harassing people in the imgur community.

YouTube videos like this one that made the front page last week were flooded with harassment.

Any time someone criticized /r/fatpeoplehate in another subreddit you were bound to find comments claiming the offended user hated FPH because they were fat. As if you had to be fat to find bullying disgusting.

/r/fatpeoplehate's hate was leaking outside of the subreddit for sure.

[–]Whitellama 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Is it not harassment if it only happens inside the sub?

[–]nsto 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Harassment means to upset, disturb, or intimidate someone. If it's being kept in the sub and the people being ridiculed don't even know about it, it doesn't fit the definition of harassment.

[–]theruins 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So if /r/nstohate existed with pictures of you and hundreds of commentators explaining how terrible of a person you are, you would be fine with it?

[–]peaceshot 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

It is not.

I can yell "I hate niggers!" inside my own house with my doors and windows closed and nobody will care one bit. It's the same thing.

[–]dietotaku -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

But yell it in a room full of people who share your sentiment and now you have a klan meeting. The difference is in having an audience.

[–]MrDeckard 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are a lot of people straight up lying in their responses to you.

Yes. FPH posters absolutely harassed people outside their subreddit. It wasn't as widespread as SRS used to be back when people gave a shit, but it was definitely there. Any time a major sub had a discussion about weight loss or obesity, FPH was there to remind everyone that "fatties" are inhuman scum who don't deserve to draw breath.

It's good that they got banned. It's bad that they weren't banned sooner.

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[–]FireReadyAim 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mostly just vote brigades I think.

[–]SanguisFluens 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nope, and all names and most faces were censored. It was a place to talk anonymously about obesity, fat acceptance and shitlording without ever harassing real people.

[–]ijustwantanfingname 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No. Bet you dollars to donuts the admin who pushed this horse shit through is obese though.

[–]allthefoxes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, they have more than one solid brigade under their belts

[–]DietsAreForHitler 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm sure that there were bad apples, as there are in every subreddit. But if they were caught, they were banned. Of course, I'm sure they created new accounts, but a few bad apples don't justify an entire subreddit being banned.

[–]gges 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was probably banned because of the name. It was something that could be bandied about in the media without having to talk about the actual content of the subreddit, the name was just inherently bad.

[–]digbybare 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nope. It encouraged hate against fat people, but only within the sub. It had incredibly strict enforcement against brigading and doxxing. That it's deleted and srs is still around is a complete joke.

[–]Mestyo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly I'd guess that far more people harassed /r/fatpeoplehate subscribers than vice versa.

[–]spudoodle 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

There have been cases, but only a few. It recently got out of hand when Imgur started censoring pictures from FPH that were making it to the front page of reddit. Then FPH responded by pretty much chastising a bunch of fat Imgur employees.

Should they have deleted the subreddit? No. Should they have banned a few of the people who broke the rules? Of course. Are there much more discriminatory subreddits out there that they'll do nothing about? Yep.

[–]Visualice 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, people who got butthurt by that subreddit went there out of their own free will and are upset because that subreddit is full of facts and opinions they don't like.

The facts instantly discredit the bullshit and fatlogic they spent so much time posting on tumblr about to convince people about HAES and other crap.

[–]missmisfit -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

as it was a lot of photos taken secretly out in public with the express purpose being to make fun of them I think that counts as "outside Reddit" enough.

[–]Admiralfox 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

But it was only contributed to the subreddit itself. Nothing was linked to other parts of reddit.

[–]merk444 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

They invaded other subs on multiple occasions.

[–]digital_mysticz -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

A lot of the submissions were screengrabs of fatshaming comments they made on Facebook, tumbler, the likes . They insulted real people on social media just to be able to screengrab it and submit it proudly to fph.

[–]spergery 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Always with the names blacked out, though. It's hard to call it harassment when the post is, in essence, "one of seven billion people on the planet is fat and says stupid things".

[–]snorlz 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

how is that different from any other sub that posts pictures of real people? /r/punchablefaces, /r/cringepics , and even /r/funny do that.

[–]arabchic 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They busted into /r/vegan awhile ago. Didn't think it was a big deal, only lasted a day or two.

[–]ThrowawayShitlord777 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No one was doing harassing out side of the subreddit. All /r/fatpeoplehate did was post pictures of planets. Then the planets feefees got hurt.

[–]imatree -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, but it's quite obvious they're only doing this in response to having Imgur named a bunch of fatties.

[–]myndzha -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

no but it was getting pretty fucking bad. they really put the hate in the fatpeoplehate in recent months. at first it used to be somewhat funny, tongue in cheek or overly sarcastic type of stuff that was sometimes funny but now its just a shit show, glad its gone.