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Discussion/QuestionHas There Ever Been a Non-Religious Civilization? (self.history)

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[–]separys [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Yup, that's why I was suggesting the Huns. If they were forcing others to convert I'm sure it would have been recorded. Couldn't find anything that stated that they were very religious at all.

[–]QuouarQuite the arrogant one. [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

A religion doesn't have to convert people to be a religion, and those that follow it don't have to be converting people to be members of that religion. Look at Judaism. Look at Hinduism. These are non-converting religions, but there is not a single doubt that they are, in fact, religions, and that those who follow them are religious.

[–]separys [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

I'm not saying that's the case. I'm saying that, in that era, if they were very religious, it'd be likely that they'd attempt to convert people. Especially zealous nations and leaders. For example, very religious Christians would embark on crusades. We don't see anything from the Huns, zero mention of it. They just plundered and demanded tribute, and nothing that I could find suggested that those living under the Huns were treated based on their religions.

[–]QuouarQuite the arrogant one. [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

And I'm telling you that that's not the case. There are many religions and faith-systems that have no and have never had any interest in conversion simply because their beliefs were so rooted to their identities or to a location that there was no reason to convert. Once again, look at Judaism or Hinduism. There were very, very devout Hindus and Jews who had no interest whatsoever in conversion. A religion does not have to be conversionary to be a real religion, nor does it have to do so for its members to prove their devotion. Not every religion is Christianity.

[–]separys [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I'm not sayingn every religion is Christianity. Let's take a look at Judaism. Before Muhammed started Islam, it was dominant in several tribes in Arabia. And they happened to repress the polythiestic Arabian religions. Once again, I'm not saying all religions do this, but I'm saying for the area the Huns were in and for the time period they ravaged in that it would be more likely for them to convert their conquested lands if they were devout.

[–]QuouarQuite the arrogant one. [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The trouble is that, whether you realise it or not, you are saying that all religions, to be religions, must be Abrahamic. Abrahamic religions tend to convert (with Judaism being an exception) and oppress those that disagree with them, sure. The rest of the world doesn't do this. The rest of the world blends religions, puts them side-by-side, or practices multiple faiths at the same time. It doesn't make those religions any less of a religion.