Temple Operating System V1.00 Released

ba-cawk · 2年前

I know I'm wasting my breath here, but maybe some will listen.

The man has schizophrenia. It's going to effect how he reacts, especially under stress. Speaking from experience, shitting out a big release of your code is stressful unto itself, long before things like peer review are involved. And that's all before we get to his condition.

His condition has very little to do what what he's created here. He's obviously done a great deal of work on it, and while the communication issues will result in this project to likely only ever have one contributor, it's safe to say this is one of the more novel things to come across this subreddit in a long time -- or perhaps we should just go back to discussing something haskell curry invented 50 years ago but in a completely different programming language. Seriously.

Now you can embrace that and tolerate or ignore his condition while exploring what he's spent a lot of time on, or realize that you're doing the equivalent of picking on a guy in the wheel chair from the top of the staircase. You can't see his condition and the only way to interface with him is to subject yourself to it. Please keep that in mind.

So, maybe for those of us who give a fuck about the project, the rest of you just lay off so he has an easier time having a cogent conversation about it? Or you can just go think about how Rene Descartes created the coordinate system to prove the existence of god empirically, or Sir Isaac Newton drove himself mad in his twilight years trying to turn lead into gold. Food for thought, folks.

Thanks.

Edit: Ya'll made me proud today. I needed that. Thanks.

troyanonymous1 · 2年前

Is this SparrowOS? Formerly LoseThos?

Indeed it is

v864 · 2年前

It's only 139,558 lines of code, including the compiler and can change tasks in half a microsecond because it doesn't mess with page tables or privilege levels.
Inter-process communication is effortless because every task can access every other task's memory.

Jesus Tap Dancing Christ that's going to be fucking fast. To find an OS with this insane combination of modern features and old school I-don't-give-a-fuckery is impressive. There's gotta be some awesome uses for this (uses where security is not an issue!).

Menokritschi · 2年前

I wrote all 139,558 lines of TempleOS over the last 9.6 years, full-time.

Unpaid?

sebhtml · 2年前

In TempleOS: Press <CURSOR-DOWN> nine times.

Can you say what's inside C:\Kernel.BIN.C ?

I booted TempleOS with VirtualBox in Fedora18. I have tried LoseOS and SparrowOS previously.

I just tried commands such as

Dir(".");

Cd("..");

So is Dir; equivalent to Dir("."); or there is another optimization there too ?

I like how this efficient OS minimizes most accesses to block devices. For example, as far as I understand the shell uses the compiler and there are no object files during compilation (mostly equivalent to using $(CXX) -pipe on a bunch of source files.

I still believe that it would be cool to have access directly to TempleOS-V1.00.tar.bz2 to play with the code. And I am not alone with that feeling.

Keep up the great work !

gcross · 2年前

Hey everyone,

Please don't bait TempleOS (the person, not the operating system); all that happens when you do that is that the thread subsequently devolves into a "You suck!" "No, you suck more!" kind of exchange.

There are enough cool details in TempleOS (the operating system, not the person) that we could spend our entire conversation on the technical details of it without bringing up personal aspects of the author at all.

Now, sometimes the author will bring up religion without having been provoked; in that case, if you insistent on replying, just say something neutral to acknowledge his comment without starting a flamewar.

Timmmmbob · 2年前

Inter-process communication is effortless because every task can access every other task's memory.

You're definitely a glass-is-half-full kind of guy!

fabzter · 2年前

How's the guy doing? I hope he's ok. Last time I heard of him he was having hard times with his schizophrenia.

allthediamonds · 2年前

I don't get all the hate. Why is this so wrong? I'm an atheist, but I don't see anything wrong with a God-themed piece of software. People find inspiration in the darndest things.

allsecretsknown · 2年前

Interesting stuff. It's always neat seeing projects that are intensely personal in nature, it's like reading an unpublished manuscript.

cincodenada · 2年前

"Linux" is probably a trademark owned by Linus Torvalds.

This is impressive and all the things the rest of you are saying, but that right there was my favorite part of the whole page.

TempleOS · 2年前

Try it in a VM. No risk. Easy. It's exotic enough to be entertaining like a game for a few hours. It's free. Does everyone know how to use VMWare or Virtual Box (both free) or QEMU64?

There is no second full version -- you get everything for free on the version. No networking -- disconnect networking in VMWare. Does not call home.

Installing in a VM is almost sure to work with the easy automatic VM install. Heck, you can just run the live CD in VMware and do most things but save. Setting-up a hard disk in VMware or Virtual Box is easy. Qemu is slightly harder -- make any-old-file for the hard disk image.

GuyOnTheInterweb · 2年前

I view this as a great project of art. Just like other artists can have a vision, a state of mind disconnected from society norms, and after years of effort produce masterpieces, I think the author of Temple OS as well shows the same kind of commitment and skills.

Here the usual norms are that programs must be isolated for security and stability; that devices can only be accessed through strict interfaces; that code development must reuse existing libraries, and that operating systems should be culturally and politically neutral (remember that Taiwan-Debian story?)

TempleOS says screw all that, back to basics and have some fun! Connect with the OS, connect with the machine, connect with the logic; and thus by transitivity, connect to the creator.

hides_dirty_secrets · 2年前

Hey. So I downloaded and tried TempleOS. Here's some real feedback:

It's a cool project, but I found it too.. much. After booting up, it started flashing and blinking things at me... and scrolling. All that blinking and scrolling. Like one of the first webpages.

And then weird keyboard shortcuts. Why not go for the de-facto standards?

And the religious bits.. IMHO they have no place in an OS. And when I read how god affect your decision-making, like he told you to stick with 640x480... I get worried. Can't use this OS for anything serious.

To play with, for fun, sure. But I'm not going to invest the time to learn this OS just for fun.

Best regards, J.

SuperNinKenDo · 2年前

I remember seeing this when it was LoseThos and being fascinated, glad to be reminded of it and to know its new name. The OP has a very amusing sense of humour in his videos too which I like, but he's a crazy cunt when it comes to actually talking with others.

DrBix · 2年前

This is the most entertaining thread I've EVER read in this forum.

mhd · 2年前

I heard its compiler can do four simultaneous rotate operations in a single clock cycle.

0xFF0000 · 2年前

However you look at it all, this is insanely impressive.

In any case, I found the following description of a typical Sparrow/Temple workflow to be interesting:

Typically, your usage pattern through the day will be repeatedly left or right 
clicking on filenames in a cmd line Dir() listing.  You left-click files to edit 
them and right-click to #include them.  To begin a project, type Ed(""); and 
supply a filename.  You can also run programs with <F5> when in the editor.  <ES
C> to save and exit the file.  You'll need to do a new Dir() cmd, periodically, 
so make a macro on your personal menu.  Access your personal menu by pressing <C
TRL-M>, cursoring until you are on top of it and pressing <SPACE BAR>.

<CTRL-T> toggles plain text mode, showing format commands, a little like viewing 
html code.  <CTRL-L> inserts a nongraphic widget.  <CTRL-R> inserts a graphic 
resource or edits the graphic under the cursor.

Reminds me of IPython - interactive programming, etc. Very very nice.

TempleOS · 2年前

Nobody seems to be downloading it.

You might want to browse the code.

By file: http://www.templeos.org/Wb/Accts/TS/Wb2/LineCnt.html#l694

By Symbol Name: http://www.templeos.org/Wb/Accts/TS/Wb2/SymsAlpha.html

sirin3 · 2年前

A personal 150k LOC OS?

Cool

Reminds my of my personal 40k loc interpreter, which no one uses either.

OBLITERATED_ANUS · 2年前

ITT: People don't understand mental illness

kiwipete · 2年前

I heard this is the canonical platform to play Dwarf Fortress :-) In all seriousness, this is pretty cool. A blend of retro and modern.

bitwize · 2年前

Ah yes, LoseThos/SparrowOS/TempleOS -- the "I Whipped Spider-Man's Ass" of operating systems.

Metaluim · 2年前

Ok, since this doesn't have a network stack you can't access the internet, which means you're using reddit on another OS.

Which OS would that be? :)

EmitSorrels · 2年前

looks like losethos

Strings · 2年前

Genuinely impressed.

But what's with the crazy forum posts?

hamster_sword · 2年前

Will it run Crysis?

SymbolicLink · 2年前

You're a genius. Keep up the good work man.

Mgladiethor · 2年前

Are you sane?

: fuck this shit you are a genius

TempleOS · 2年前

This project is really interesting, but some of the things are pretty weird.

Why write your own compiler when there is plenty other good compilers available? It seems like you've done a lot of unnecessary work, and wasted a lot of time.
Source code is really badly commented. Most of the comments are // ************************************. You also use a lot of weird practices. Most of the variable names are not descriptive, and the code looks like a weird cross of Assembly C, and C++.
Try to keep religion out of programming. You can get a more diverse group of people to help you out on this project, and instead of naming things after the bible or biblical events, you can use more descriptive words.

Do you use a VCS? What is the license for Temple OS? Do you yourself use Temple as your main OS?

Overall, I like the project. It looks really fun and hackish, like Linux was in the beginning.

beefok · 2年前

Is god a pseudo-random number generator?

dacjames · 2年前

You sneaky bastard! You renamed your OS and tricked me into visiting your site again.

Look, I think what you have built is pretty cool. You obviously have enjoyed writing it and that's awesome. However, constantly spamming links to SparrowOS, now TempleOS, on every technical community on the Web is infuriating and doesn't do your project any favors. Please stop!

Woolio · 2年前

This guy, "TempleOS", seems to be a pretty smart guy, technically. I have to give him props for being able to build an OS from scratch, that takes genius.

It's just such a shame his mental illness causes the social incompatibilities it does, and prevents him from having full control of an otherwise fascinating mind.

borbus · 2年前

It's a nice idea to create an operating system that runs the way you want it to but it doesn't seem very useful.

shevegen · 2年前

This does what Linux no longer does - it brings the fun back into programming and tinkering at the same time.

I don't know why but I don't like linux anymore.

And I still use it, since 10 years. It failed to be enthusiastic, it is nothing than a boring server OS without any real vision other than "become technically the best kernel out there" - how boring. :(

jsprogrammer · 2年前

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Goblerone · 2年前

Okay, now someone port this to run on that fake computer that Notch invented for his next space game.

P.S. This is something I've always dreamed about writing if my time was not taken up with so-called "more serious things".

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