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[–]Endorsed Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 41ポイント42ポイント  (16子コメント)

The White Knight's definition of women comes from their mothers, as well as video games, television and movies. Cultural programming is definetly at play.

Save the princess in the video game. Cool girl on TV is one of the bros. Nerdy guy moves heaven and earth and gets the girl in the end.

If you are an introvert nerd you understanding of women is heavily influenced by the media narrative.

If you are an attractive guy, women with boyfriends and husbands will be clawing at you trying to catch your alpha sperm. Watching a girl call her boyfriend give him an excuse and then suck your dick is a powerful experience that bloopers dont have.

You should make Teespring shirts of Roosh Crying and link them to your blog.

[–]3 Endorsed ContributorBurgundyCarpet[S] 17ポイント18ポイント  (11子コメント)

Good point about cultural programming, I should have mentioned that's the other main BP indoctrination mechanism.

Dude I think the first like 5 girls I fucked all had boyfriends. It is simply impossible to keep the pussy on a pedestal after seeing, AND BENEFITING FROM, the fact that women are whores.

[–]occupythekitchen 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

women always have a boyfriend. a girl without one doesn't have social standing with the other hens.

[–]1oldredder 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

So true. They need that social standing and then get addicted so being lonely is like a heroin withdrawal. Every boyfriend is either the alpha fuck or the beta place-holder.

[–]iamokwithviolence 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

Media is not "programming" guys to be BP. It's just that they're already BP and media gives them what they want - stories and movies about other BP's, so they could relate.

[–]3 Endorsed ContributorBurgundyCarpet[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

I believe it is more of a yin/yang thing. The oligarchs sell shit to the proles because the proles want it... But do they only want it because the oligarchs have gotten them addicted to it? Which came first – the chicken? The egg? Or the retarded idea that men and women are equal?

[–]NidStyles 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

That BP stuff starts in preschool and with Disney.

[–]iamokwithviolence 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good point, but let's imagine world before mass media. You think everyone was RP back then?

[–]1oldredder 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

That's not what BP means. The blue pill is a lie: it is the Matrix, the architecture of falsehood re-shaping your perception of every aspect of the world you're aware of.

BP doesn't mean being initially naive or stubborn to learn the truth. That's a human quality. Blue pill / Matrix is NOT inherently human. It's a new concept forged in the fires of fraud and meant to enslave a population by a specific group at the top. It fits their economic models for maximum slave-harvesting.

[–]iamokwithviolence 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yes, but people were lied to all the time. For example - religion. It's not media's fault.

[–]ColdEiric 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

If you think religion has a high opinion of women, you haven't read holy texts well enough. The redpill stuff is there, plain and simple, but if you're not looking for it, you won't find it.

Priests might be keeping the bluepillers blue, but if you do not show redpill traits, why would they show the bio-truths for you? It's far cheaper to keep you stupid. After all, we do not open the eyes for bluepillers.

Catholic priests have forbidden everyone else from reading the bible as long as they could forbid it, because the bible is their holy text, in which everything they need to know is written.

[–]iamokwithviolence -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nah i just mean that people were lied to all the time, even before media existed. Then they lied about religion, now they lie about feminism and how we should be BP. Get my point?

[–]Endorsed ContributorVarrian 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nerdy guy moves heaven and earth and gets the girl in the end.

This is why betas always say to their alpha friends, "You make it look so easy,". In their minds, mountains must be climbed, rivers crossed and dragons slain to get some pussy.

It's doesn't look easy, it is easy. They're just playing on hard mode when they could just hit the menu button and switch the difficulty to "Spread 'em".

[–]1oldredder 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

LOL. Nothing easy about it. In truth a huge amount of life experience must be gathered to properly read body language and no book teaches it very well. Without that key aspect these boys have no idea how to act like men, whereas men with experience know how to read a woman's interest, red flags and weaknesses to get her pussy wet with not many words said (expert level: none at all and in record time)

[–]1oldredder 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup. To date I've still turned down all the married ones and got a much lower N count because of it. I'm on the fence if I can handle the nuclear-drama that can come from it. It's just pussy, so how bad do I want to destabilize my life for that?

I did have one married plate but she doesn't count. Her husband was actually my buddy and he ran off with a much hotter model never to return. He won't mind if I fill his wife up with cum and she most certainly sticks to her birth control because she was raised right, not to sperm-jack men but to be an actually good wife. The only reason my buddy took off is because he knew he could do better, he did, and who am I to judge.

[–]1cover20 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I had hoped this thread would be about tongue technique.

[–]1oldredder 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

LOL. May as well offer one such message, why not.

I like to make sure she's wet all over from spit to start and I go slow up and down, moving a little side to side. I pretty much always finger her g-spot while doing this because it's just better. She'll get wetter faster and love it. When I think she's ready for it I make sure I can get suction on her clit and while I am I smash my tongue onto it. Over and over and finger her faster while I'm doing it.

So far that's never failed. When she's much closer to cumming I use the force of my lower jaw to push my tongue as hard down on her clit as I can. I could finger her faster, that works too, but usually using circles at a medium pace on her g-spot with this just fucks her right up and she'll cum at least 3 times in 20 minutes if not 5, depending on how sensitive she is.

Ultimate finishing move, did this just on one girl: maybe it's because she's loose but I fingered her right up to her cervix and did small circles there while licking her clit, pushing medium-hard. When she was close to cumming I used my finger to jack-hammer that cervix so hard she was dripping wet but she also came so hard she shook like she was electrocuted. It actually knocked her out cold for a minute solid.

[–]Metalaggeddon 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Thank you op. Semantics is my favorite subject, linguistics a close second.

You've boiled down freges issue of sense and reference very succinctly, and you couldn't gave chosen a better label than "woman" to discuss.

This is a serious issue rampant in language, and especially trp, even now disagreement about what a "plate " is, what a "10" is, what a "unicorn" embodies, and for God sakes what stoicism is, "though I suspect this is more based on philosophical ignorance most often" constantly obfuscates the legitimate advice so many here have to give.

Everyone should read this for the message behind it. It's very important.

Also, don't talk about trp outside of trp.

[–]3 Endorsed ContributorBurgundyCarpet[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Glad you stopped by bro.

I'm interested in the ideas o sense and reference. I am gonna look dat shit up. Right now I am diving into NLP, so most of the concepts in this post were taken from John Grinder and Richard Bandler... Two of the G-EST MOTHERFUCKERS TO EVER WALK THIS PLANET

[–]1oldredder 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

NLP combined with body language / haptics is awesome.

I literally changed my entire life doing this. Amazing at reading potential violence, potential fuck-buddies, poker, the works.

You'll love it meow more than ever.

[–]3 Endorsed ContributorBurgundyCarpet[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Never heard of haptics before! Excited to learn about it. Thanks for the tip man!

[–]Kyuzo_ 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think you're wrong on this. Being BP involves ignoring the objective realities of dealing with women and replacing them with an idealized fantasy.

It might corelate that people with low partner counts fall into this category, but its a sweeping generalization.

That said, the metaphor at the beginning is a solid way of separating BP and RP views of women

[–]3 Endorsed ContributorBurgundyCarpet[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

I feel you, let's agree to disagree.

If you meet a diehard BPer who has ALSO fucked a lot of bitches I'd be interested in that

[–]Kyuzo_ 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I wouldn't say diehard, but I know a few people with fairly high N counts, a lot of alpha characteristics, etc... That keep getting burned because they cling to that BP programming.

Thinking it through a bit further though, in a sense you're right. The real diehard white knight male feminist BPers.... Those guys aren't getting laid a lot. No fucking way.

Matter of degree of BP-ness, I suppose?

[–]BonzeFonze 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I really like this analogy: it really puts things into perspective. The blog is a good idea, gonna make sure to follow it.

[–]johnnywahd 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Along these same lines of defining Woman, there is a great book by Sam Keen called Fire in the Belly: On Being a Man. It's a good read.

http://www.amazon.com/Fire-Belly-Being-Sam-Keen/dp/0553351370/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1433709578&sr=8-1&keywords=Sam+Keen+Fire+in+the+belly

[–]jimjackjoe -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't understand what linguistics or the meaning of the word "woman" has to do with anything. This post boils down to: "our past experiences inform our views." It's just expressed through way fancier means. The apple comparison seems random. Why would anyone debate the meaning of the word "apple"? The equivalent is debating the meaning of the word "woman" with a blue-piller. That's not what you are debating with the bp; you're actually debating the general theme of the nature of women.

And how does one even get into a debate with a "blue-piller"? I have no idea. In what context is this happening?

[–]3 Endorsed ContributorBurgundyCarpet[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I am using the definition of the word "woman" to illustrate the larger differences between BP and RPers.

Also, if you ever wan to debate a blue piller, simply go find ANYONE. They will be happy to tell you how misogynist you are.

But what they don't know is... I'm well aware that I am a misogynist according to their insanely all-encompassing definition of misogyny.. AND IM PROUD OF IT.

Neomisogyny 4 life #GirlsHaveCooties #WaitIMeanShitTests

[–]NidStyles -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I frequent comic book stores because I am a huge Batman douche. I make an effort to get called a silly name by the SJW's that also go to these stores.

One of the stores that I visit often has a RPer working behind the counter and we make a game of seeing who I can offend by arguing over stupid SJW views. He plays the SJW for obvious reasons. It keeps bringing him new SJW customers with daddy's money, so it's a win for both of us. I get to torment worthless beings and he makes profit on it.

It is very pleasing to see their worldviews are so ridiculously easy to shake.

[–]1oldredder 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

the proper term is semantics but thanks to the choice of title I can say the author is a cunning linguist.

[–]Primemale -3ポイント-2ポイント  (11子コメント)

The Red Pill Definition of 'Woman': Women are people, just like us. They have virtues AND flaws. They are very good at entertaining, having fun, child-rearing, etc… but they’re incredibly bad at living in accordance with ‘higher’ values – loyalty, honor, honesty, etc.(This definition is fucking OBVIOUS to anyone who has ever fucked a few women.)

Women can have 'higher values' if its been beaten into them, for the most part. Also are you insinuating that these higher values are DISTINCT differences between the sexes? Or are you just saying that in general they tend to lack that? The reason why I ask is I don't think these virtues are INHERENTLY masculine but again behaviours that are beneficial in a certain climate such as a relatively small tribe etc. Therefore I conclude that men are also not virtuous if it isn't required, to a relatively similar degree, I think

[–]3 Endorsed ContributorBurgundyCarpet[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

I am speaking in generalizations. There are exceptions to every trend.

The OVERWHELMING TREND is that women do not value masculine traits like honor, honesty, etc nearly as much as men.

I hope you're not trying to NAWALT cuz I will AWALT you ten times harder :)

[–]Primemale 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think you are right there for sure, that most certainly is the overwhelming trend. My point really, is that I don't think the aforementioned traits are what is wholly masculine, just that men more had to adopt these traits in certain conditions, and women adopted these traits from the men and stuck to them, through shaming tactics, punishments or religion. Now with the fast cultural shift in the west, in the past say 80 years, (in more ways than just feminism) people In general don't tend to value these virtues. And certainly these virtues were created by men, but so was pretty much everything, cultural or otherwise. I'm really just hitting back from what I see often here about higher virtues and ideals being like an instinctual/genetic trait of males, whereas for the most part I don't think it's the case. I am potentially being pedantic, but hey I'm chillin.

[–]3 Endorsed ContributorBurgundyCarpet[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I feel u brah, I stay pedantic AF so I can relate.

Agreed... Most people of either gender DGAF about higher virtues. Its my personal belief that the ones who do are overwhelmingly male.

[–]1oldredder 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

but brah, this one's special, she's a precious snowflake! Why else would she be so helpful making sure I check my cis-hetero-privilege??

[–]CptDefB 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

I don't think these virtues are INHERENTLY masculine

They are. Men made them up for masculine situations like war and dealing with bitches. Virtue isn't inherent, it's taught from the outside and chosen on the inside. Loyalty, honor, honesty... there are distinct motivational differences between the sexes. You can put it on a spectrum if you want, but those who follow some principled version thereof will be predominantly men. Guaranteed. The simplicity of categorizing things shouldn't be so muddled by mostly inconsequential variables/outliers.

[–]Primemale 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yeah I see where your coming from really, your saying these distinct motivational differences, (which of course, I accept) are responsible for men say, adopting these virtues and likewise women not valuing them. Its the way these virtues are touted often around here as the only way to be as man, like they inexplicably linked to masculinity, rather than as a tool born out of necessity or advantageous at the given time.

[–]CptDefB 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

I wouldn't say the virtues are the only way to be, as their definitions/applications can get hazy. Is it "honorable" to fuck a married woman? As a rhetorical example. What I'm saying is that, as masculine concepts, they are inherently masculine things.

Even a little boy understands the concept of honor and loyalty, despite having almost 0 exposure to anything sexy, and only a cartoon's version of say, betrayal. Another thing that men know all too well.

[–]Primemale 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

What I'm saying is that, as masculine concepts, they are inherently masculine things.

true, you got me there. Although with the example of the young boy, you said ' a little boy understands the concept of honour...' women can understand the concept of honour etc they just don't generally value it, much like the young boy in most likelihood. Again my point is more that CERTAIN virtues are held up as being innate to men,(forget about women) like a genetic disposition, rather than their particular circumstances, such as the time they were born in to determining their virtue or lack thereof. I spose a man has the potential because of his particular motivations to embrace virtue for his benefit or the groups benefit.

[–]CptDefB 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

There we go.

rather than their particular circumstances, such as the time they were born in to determining their virtue or lack thereof

This seems to place emphasis on nurture above nature. While nurture does have its place...

I spose a man has the potential because of his particular motivations to embrace virtue for his benefit or the groups benefit.

... the laws of nature will always reign supreme. Men bear this burden because we learn from a very young age (nurture), that we must (nature).

Women do not (nature), so they learn they don't have to (nurture). "But but!" Humans are nothing if not adaptable. Women can rise to challenges. However in the hypothetical ideal (or even average), nature and nurture still play out the same.

I saw something on RPW that relates, actually. It was a woman shaping the definition of "maturity" as a burden that we shield them from. It brought on a level of appreciation and respect for manhood in general.

These things are inherent to us.

They are ours.

For better or for worse.

[–]Primemale 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah you are right in that, in general, the laws of nature will reign supreme, I spose that's what the misandry bubble says in essence if you've read it.

I saw that same post on RPW, I felt the same appreciatiation also. FYI I am not against nature, genetics, etc but people can over analyse things, I think it best to discover yourself (man) and everything else falls into place.

I think people read up too much on game etc, not realising they are like stabilizers, eventually your gonna have to ride without them and just go for it, and that's when you really learn.