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Rant/VentingYou fuckers were right (self.TheRedPill)

creepyguy13 が 投稿

Don't get offended by the title its just a joke. Last week I posted a FR about how I kinda argued with my plate but ultimately won by fucking her. It really wasn't a matter of alpha or beta I was just explaining my situation.

I look like an alpha, I'm 6'0 205 cut the fuck up. I figured there's no way in hell this girl ever dumps me, I'm levels, LEVELS above her no joke. From the first night she was getting me to commit and for about a month she stopped and enjoyed the ride. The past two weeks she really decided to come on strong telling me I don't care about her and shit and I caved.

After fucking her last weekend I woke up in the morning and left after she begged me to stay. She texts me: "Is that goodbye forever?" I respond: "I really care about you, however if your gonna do this every week until you find somebody better we can end it now." She responds: "I won't I just want to be with you, bullshit blah blah blah." I texted her the next day but deep down I know this bitch gives no fucks about me. She loves the idea of me but does she even really care about me at all? No. Fuck no, and I know this. Shit was over and deep down I knew it.

I haven't texted her since Jun 1. Today at 1:00am "Are you awake?" I'm thinking damn she finally caved and wants some dick. Me: "whaaaaaat?" (I'm surprised I didn't think she'd text me again. Her: You're drunk. Me: I'm at work, Im sober, you're drunk cus you texted me. Her: "Have fun at work. Me: "Come over." Her: "What time you off?" Me: "I'll text you and see if you're awake.

2:30 AM Me: "Awake?" Her: "Yeah." Me: "Come sleep with me." Her: "Come pick me up."

She walks up to my car holding a bag, I'm thinking the fuck? She gets in and is like, "I don't like what we have going on and I think we just need to be friends." I'm thinking THE FUCK? I said, "Okay." Her, "Do you still want to be friends?" I say nothing. Her, "You have nothing to say?" Me: "If it makes you happy... So do you still want to come?" Her: "No. Here's all your stuff." Then the bitch actually gets out my car and leaves. The shit was funny to me, she actually fucking did it and LIKE THAT. She texted me at 1:00am told me to come get her just to do that, ruthless. She texts me 30 minutes later, "Thanks for everything ;)."

This is my first plate ever and it lasted about edit four months. Reflecting back on it I went back to my blue pill days quite a bit actually I just figured I'm so far out of this girls league that she's not gonna leave me. She told me, "You're my weakness." Either bitch grew some balls but in reality somebody is probably giving her the tingles better than I did.

Hold your fucking frame and don't go back to being that beta loser. Also if you want to see the other post just look at my history.

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[–]StoneTiger40 64ポイント65ポイント  (12子コメント)

I don't understand how so many people don't get this.

You didn't have a plate. That was not your first plate. You had a girlfriend. In order to have a plate, you have to have other women as well. Based upon what I am reading, you only had her. That is not spinning plates.

That also shows a point where it looks like you went wrong. You don't have an abundance mentality. If you did, you wouldn't have put up with all this bullshit to begin with. Based upon this post, you let her take control of the situation too much and too long.

I respond: "I really care about you, however if your gonna do this every week until you find somebody better we can end it now."

What is this? She's misbehaving and this is how you respond? This is a Beta response. You just let her have the advantage. You just told her you cared, so now she knows she pulls the strings. Then you bring up "until you find someone better." You made yourself into a weak man. By showing no confidence in yourself you just said, "Hey, go find a real Alpha Fuck cuz I ain't it."

It doesn't matter that you look Alpha. But you need to read more of the sidebar and do less Field Reports because you aren't getting it completely.

[–]TheThingsIThink 26ポイント27ポイント  (3子コメント)

nah brah. Putting in the field reports is where he gets input like you gave him.

[–]windowkicker 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Na, take time to deliberate and when its done execute with ruthless efficiency.

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 18ポイント19ポイント  (5子コメント)

What he did was betadump her, and he didn't know it.

When you're tired of her shit, tell her how much you care, beg for pussy, hell carry her purse and drive her around. She'll dump you eventually, and not realize you planned it.

Or stumble into it, go back to beta shit, and lose her just as effectively. It works if you try or not.

[–]∞ Mod & TRP Veteranbsutansalt 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's what I did with my last gf why she got crazy on me.

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

I should pattent it. VY-Betadump.

[–]∞ Mod & TRP Veteranbsutansalt 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

To be fair I already have prior "art" on that lol!

[–]2 Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I used it inadvertently for decades, get tired of her and go beta. Poof, shes gone. I never really realized it until a few years ago, but looking back i did it often.

[–]2Marsupian 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. If its a plate you text when you want to smash and thats it.

You dont even think about shit like whether she cares about you. All you think about is her ass. Telling a plate you care about her and shit is like dragging her pussy all the way across the sahara.

[–]tremondo 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

What seems to be so bad? You got your stuff back, you're fit, have a life. You have lost nothing of value. Don't lose frame man.

[–]destraht 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

A lot of chicks out there will pocket that lent book, CD or whatever. It is nice enough to get stuff back.

[–]imgonnabethegreatest 30ポイント31ポイント  (4子コメント)

Plates fall. When she realized you weren't going to commit to her, she left.

It can be a tough lesson, especially since it was your first plate but it needs to be learned so you don't get too emotionally attached to them. It seems like you're doing okay, so keep on keepin' on and go plate some other girls.

[–]HAMMURABl 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

When she realized you weren't going to commit to her, she left.

no, the issue wasn't that just that "she left". she made him drive to her to pick up his OWN STUFF. roflmao, talk about getting played. i'd be furious.

well played by the girl. didn`t see it coming either in your story; but one of my ex-girlfriends had the same fucking audacity to demand me making do stuff for her, even after we broke up. this example is even worse, as the demand was disguised as "come here and fuck me".

which led me me to the following iron principle regarding women: make sure she has to put in significantly more effort than you. in this setup, this means that even for a fuck, she would have had to travel to him.

[–]UrsusG 25ポイント26ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'd be furious.

This is not worth getting furious about.

Disappointed girl pulled minor dick move out of frustration. He got two months of commitment-free fucking, she made him waste half an hour and some gas money after work. Big frigging deal.

Acts of petty revenge like that should be taken in stride when plating.

[–]InferiousX 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd honestly bust out laughing once the absurdity of it all hit me. Along with how well I got blindsided by it.

Well played, female.

[–]creepyguy13[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

See I'm not really furious. I'm out that anger phase and after reading this website it just confirms some of the shit I've been reading lol. Also she lives three minutes away. I just wanted to share the story because it's hilarious. Everyone in the last thread was saying drop her and stuff and it's what I should've done before giving her the satisfaction of dropping me.

[–]HumbleEngineer 10ポイント11ポイント  (5子コメント)

She played you hard. She got the alpha treatment on the body but your mind is beta still. Take no offense in this, just work on yourself. If you are levels of attractiveness above her and have alpha traits this shouldn't happen. You were just her fuck boy. Work on your frame.

Just a quick observation from your conversations: you seem to be talking more than her. If you are like this on text I wonder how you behave face to face. You also came out a little needy. Work on that.

[–]ChadThundercockII 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

you seem to be talking more than her.

So, keep silence until she breaks it ?

[–]HumbleEngineer 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yes. Not a rule per se, but it's usually better if the woman breaks the silence. It shows that she is still interested. This is specially useful with plates, you don't spend your energy on girls that are not interested in you.

[–]ChadThundercockII 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I agree. The problem in the application, for me, the thirst is still there. I keep talking.

[–]HumbleEngineer 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Get busy. The thing, as I see it, is that you focus too much on the conversation. Getting busy will do the following things to you:

  • you'll do something actually useful instead of waiting for some girl to answer
  • it will kill your anxiety, since you won't be focusing entirely on the result of the conversation
  • you'll come out aloof on the conversation

Overall you shouldn't focus all your energy on a woman. As spoken many times here, when you have high enough value, they'll come to you effortlessly. You won't even need to game them. So work on yourself.

[–]_1440p_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Truth. Law 8: make others come to you, then you hold the power.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

I think you might have failed the Comfort Test.

The optimal situation is man as Captain (60%) and woman as Firstmate (40%).

When a guy slips to 50% he gets a Shit Test which forces you to pick up your power setting.

But if the woman is feeling down in the 30% power side on her end she throws the Comfort Test to get assurance that you aren't about to leave.

It "sounds" like you went overkill on the power deal.

Once she decided to flip that switch in her mind and was devoted to jumping out it was easy for her to be emotionless.

Remember that 60% / 40% is ideal because it gives a buffer for you, but also doesn't make her feel insecure. Too close to 50% is bad, but too far in your favor is bad too.

She actually agreed in her mind you were out of her league... so she dumped you.

[–]redditarcm89 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

My ltr is more like 90/10, so I guess it's not surprising that I get tons of comfort tests and nearly no shit tests.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

You have the answer... what will you do next time?

[–]redditarcm89 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably just continue acing the comfort tests. Neither she nor I want her to have more control over anything.

[–]Futdashukup 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like wot u writ. So simple,so true.

[–]KilluaKanmuru 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wasn't expecting the plate the fall. I thought everything was going well until you said "If it makes you happy..." after the friendship proposal. Would've told to just get out of the car if she said that. At 2:30 am too? Ha! If we're not fucking, then what are we doing? Talking about practice? At 2:30 am!? Nah.

[–]jkonrad 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why the confusion? Women may get upset when they find out you're just using them for sex, particularly when they want committment. Such is the way of spinning plates. Give more comfort, or plate less intelligent women who aren't looking for anything serious.

[–]creepyguy13[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's my first plate man. I'm not really used to this haha.

[–]jx234 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

A nice reminder that dread game sometimes doesn't work, they really do just leave. Thats not to say you shouldn't use it though. In fact, maybe its wrong to say it hasn't "worked". It has, because you have got rid of a plate who would have been too much investment on your part.

[–]T34_B4991n5 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's because he didn't use it. He put her up on the pedastal and she knew he was just playing video games and working while he wasn't contacting her.

[–]Copenhagen23 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Similar thing happened to me except we were in a relationship. I'm younger than her and without a doubt better looking. She would always let me know how other girls were checking me out every time we went somewhere. I got into a LTR mind set because she seemed very stable, confident, and over all pleasant to be around. Well she's been separated for a couple years but not officially divorced. her husband cheated on her quite a bit and it killed their marriage. Out of the blue she goes cold and breaks up with me and tells me we're moving too fast and she's not ready for a relationship. It occurred to me she might be an alpha widow and she views me as a beta.

I don't know the best course of action to take but in my mind it's over and the only thing I can do is alpha up and move on. I showed as much indifference as possible during the breakup and she hasn't contacted me all week. I hit the gym all last week, got on Tinder, and went out Fri and Sat night. I only got one number and another possible "date" for next weekend. I made the mistake of thinking she wanted a relationship. I should have treated her as a plate and made myself less available. Oh well, she'll be back, and i'll make sure she knows she done fucked up.

[–]1aguy01 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

All you can do is move on. Just keep it no contact and work on yourself.

[–]Ovadox 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why did you even leave stuff at her place? You've been involved for only two months and at least on your end it wasn't serious. Chances are you'll need to walk away at some point. Why leave loose ends like that? Or expose any possessions you value to a possibly vindictive ex-plate?

[–]creepyguy13[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought about it after posting it was about four months. One night she was locked out her place and I gave her some of my clothes. She's not vindictive she's just evil like that, she was one who told me everything about the things she did to other guys lol.

[–]Chopin_ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

She tried to get an emotional reaction out of you and by using the LJBF speech tried to do a powerflip as a last resort, if you didnt cave then props OP.

[–]colucci 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha well, she owned you.

You can be levels above her, but if you don't show you that, she's the one that's levels above you.

[–]1favours_of_the_moon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No.

She got the tingles from dick teasing you. She knew she could never have you, so she at least wanted to try to stick it to you one last time.

[–]Screambloodyleprosy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Did you reply to the last text she sent after getting your stuff back?

[–]juliusstreicher 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm still an RP newb, so, I have to ask...can't this be just another shit test? I would think that he's gonna hear more from her...

[–]TheThingsIThink 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree. He may have to wait several month. She may contact him for hook-ups between boyfriends. He just needs to not initiate.

[–]InferiousX 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

From the sounds of things he probably will. I'm guessing in 6-9 months (that's about the time frame to find a new supplicating BF, have the honeymoon phase wear off, then have her start to be annoyed by the new bf)

[–]occupythekitchen 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

yep women are so predictive once you drop the social bs we were brainwashed with

[–]TheAloofCat 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

What I don't get is, if she was only a plate, what was she doing with a a bag full of your stuff?

[–]Aeon-ChuX 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

gotta keep some fresh clothes and toothbrush just in case you sleep over

[–]TheAloofCat -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't think it's necessary for just a night... Unless she is your LTR or something.

[–]Grompher -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was posted yesterday. Never give a woman the following;

All your love.

All your money/resources.

And all your attention.

[–]LukeThompson123 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh damn that's ice cold! Sounds like you handled it well man