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Red Pill TheoryBasic Shit Test Mnemonic (self.TheRedPill)

Lashlarue123 が 投稿

Sup fellas,

So, to give back to this forum that has provided me with so much insight and life improvement, I figured I would share my unisex shit test response mnemonic. I’ve used it with increasing frequency whenever a power play is presented by a male or female, and the results are very good - the hardest part is remembering to deploy it when the unexpected opportunity comes along, but it's better than trying to remember a ton of theory in the moment. The word is AVICS which defines the type of response to a challenge as outlined below. It is open ended and allows for creativity and combination, both being not entirely necessary:

  • A - Amused (Agree and amplify, belittlement, humor)
  • V - Vague (Dismissive and aloof)
  • I - Ignore (No response/change subject or person being spoken to)
  • C - Command (Direct instruction, useful on very immature challenge)
  • S - Situational Observation (Listen to you, you really want my attention, you’re getting upset, etc)

That’s it, I keep it concise so I can play around with it and sound natural. I find it useful, maybe you will too. Cheers.

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[–]Prophet6 3ポイント4ポイント  (13子コメント)

Cool, can someone pls explain the 'situation observation' one to us .

[–]The-Triple-Threat 51ポイント52ポイント  (10子コメント)

Have you ever seen a shrink? Even if not, you've probably seen this in a movie or on tv:

When you verbally attack (shit test) a shrink, he's trained to, instead of responding directly to it, say something like "you see what you just did there? You tried to take control. I bet people usually let you get away with it too, right?"

By being detached, and making an observation about the other person, letting them know that you are aware of exactly what they are doing, and how the 'shit test' is actually a manifestation of their own insecurity or lack of control, etc., you put yourself in control.

[–]Prophet6 6ポイント7ポイント  (9子コメント)

Holy crap, that's awesome. That's an awesome strategy

[–]The-Triple-Threat 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's basically an advanced form of the the Socratic method and, if you are interested in the dark arts (more malicious/predatory Machiavellianism), is the basis of Gaslighting somebody, which is the practice of making somebody question their own sanity. It's very powerful.

[–]Prophet6 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well I wouldn't go so far as gas lighting, but good to know it's there in case someone tries it. You'd have to have influence and power over someone to gas light them successfully. It'd be cruel.

[–]unassumingusername7 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not to mention that gaslighting IS abuse and can be considered DV. We can get what we want without making ourselves vulnerable to the law. But you should be aware of it and prepared to defend yourself from it.

[–]NeverQuit69ing 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What book can I read to learn about the Socratic method? I've researched Socrates online but haven't been able to find any good book recommendations

[–]Quintus_Pillus 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

If you like that kind of thing, I recommend you reading about Gestalt therapy, as it's based on the here and the now. The way you interact with the therapist is a representation on how you interact with the world and from that, you can see yourself from a different angle, have your beliefs challenged, etc.

[–]Prophet6 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Just read the Wiki on Gestalt, very much like the idea of being conscious of the present, something i have to be mindful of as i'm going for an interview soon and i get very anxious. It's hard isnt it, putting things to practice when you get very emotional and nervous. Do you have any particular suggestions for someone in my position, a natural introvert having to justify their worth in that context? I know it's off topic, but you seem like someone whose well read, and all i have is shitty pick-up theory.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

i'm going for an interview soon and i get very anxious.

Good opportunity to practice your frame control.

I give plenty of interviews and in a way, their questions are shit-tests. They aren't looking for perfect answers as much as who you are in terms of character and how you handle yourself.

Nervous is okay at the start, but you want your likability to shine through once rapport is established.

[–]redditfuckyeah6969 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's just being kind of meta about the point in the conversation. Pointing out the silliness in their actions, usually. Try to do it in a cheeky, lighthearted way.

[–]Shankar_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nicely explained, makes sense

[–]wanderer779 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nice post. Some examples would be nice.

[–]redditfuckyeah6969 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mnemonics are good. Adrenaline can lock your brain up so that theory's pretty worthless to you in the moment. I'll use this.

[–]remember13 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Great mnemonic dude! Short and simple. Posts like this are the backbone of TRP.

[–]ColonelMitchell 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Situational observation is very effective, I've used it multiple times with shit tests and it always has them tripping.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good list, add these:
Redirect: switch her attention to something else.
Deflect: effortlessly brush it off with zero defensiveness.
Pressure Flip: turn it around and attack her frame, get her on the defensive.

[–]CumForJesus 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm a natural for the first three. Any tips for C and S ? What is it exactly ?

[–]Rockin-Robert 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have done S naturally any time I get into an argument with a woman, that is to say, a girlfriend starts a fight with me or is acting crazy, and expecting me to respond verbally. I calmly list the events that got us to the point where she's flipping out and screaming or acting irrationally. Like, okay, I'm acting totally normal, talking to you about this. You're yelling and accusing me of things that make no sense. If a few rounds of this have no effect, I just leave.

This technique is actually better for mild shit tests than that sort of argument scenario where she's pissed and yelling. It's trying to talk an emotional woman down with logic, after all.

[–]JustACrosshair_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

General form of C:

Female says to you; "You need to - X", or "You are - Y", or "Can / Can't you just- Z"

Male says; "Hand me that - A.", "Hold this - B.", "Move that - C."

Best coupled with "I" in mnemonic, and then in more advanced cases followed by "A" in the mnemonic.

If there is STILL shit being thrown after that, then I hope to god that pussy is really worth it. (Hint: It's not.)

[–]pilledwillingly 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is gold. My supervisor is a moody fucker and sometimes blindsides me with a shit test randomly. I'm witty and clever and have the right thing to say if I'm not completely sucker-punched by the comment. I need a step by step to stop myself from snapping back at his moodswings.

[–]fuckwithpurpose 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know a couple dudes named Vicas so I'll remember it like that. Thanks, very useful.