1. Post #1
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    Emma Sulkowicz, the Columbia graduate famous across the country as “Mattress Girl” after she hauled a mattress around campus for a year to protest the school’s handling of her alleged rape, has apparently released a sex tape recreating her alleged rape.
    Video intro by Emma posted:
    Do not watch this video if your motives would upset me, my desires are unclear to you, or my nuances are indecipherable.

    You might be wondering why I’ve made myself this vulnerable. Look—I want to change the world, and that begins with you, seeing yourself. If you watch this video without my consent, then I hope you reflect on your reasons for objectifying me and participating in my rape, for, in that case, you were the one who couldn’t resist the urge to make Ceci N’est Pas Un Viol about what you wanted to make it about: rape.

    Please, don’t participate in my rape. Watch kindly.
    Jesus fucking christ this girl is off
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  2. Post #2
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    Very quick question, if she was a victim of the "rape", why the hell is she making a recreation of it, most of the time, people are too damn shocked to even rethink of their rape.
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    So she was carrying around her mattress around and she stated she was continuously haunted by the whole event because the thing kept reminding her about the whole thing.
    Now that is over she goes on to recreate the entire rape scene in detail. Eh
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    So she was carrying around her mattress around and she stated she was continuously haunted by the whole moment every time she was carrying it around.
    Now that is over she goes on to recreate the entire rape scene in detail. Eh
    I really think she might be histrionic.

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    I really think she might be histrionic.
    I think she might be fucking nuts
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  7. Post #7

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    Its not a recreation of her rape, says so quite clearly on the website.

    She is still concerned with sexual violence given the way it impacted her life, so she has moved on from her own assault to talk about a different phenomeon (seems to be a strong critique of voyeurism).

    Whats the beef yall have with this?
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    Its not a recreation of her rape, says so quite clearly on the website.

    She is still concerned with sexual violence given the way it impacted her life, so she has moved on from her own assault to talk about a different phenomeon (seems to be a strong critique of voyeurism).

    Whats the beef yall have with this?
    Because the details are dubious of both the attempted rape and now this.

    Also I'd also argue what the hell is voyeurism in this context and what the hell is the critique? Porn by very definition is meant to be sexually arousing and viewed. People who fuck in public are doing public in-decency and perverts who invade other people's space are considered in-decent as well. What is she critiquing here, besides saying that we condone her rape " then I hope you reflect on your reasons for objectifying me and participating in my rape, "

    Is she talking about rape voyeurism? Was that ever really an accepted thing in society or something? Rape is wrong, its a crime, we arrest people for it, and we arrest those involved in it.

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    Its not a recreation of her rape, says so quite clearly on the website.

    She is still concerned with sexual violence given the way it impacted her life, so she has moved on from her own assault to talk about a different phenomeon (seems to be a strong critique of voyeurism).

    Whats the beef yall have with this?
    Ahh, there's always that person.

    Literally zero of her allegations went through. There's chat logs and even facebook posts that denote she contacted him regularly after the date of his alleged "assault". As a result, her protest seemed to do literally nothing but slander the name of a person who doesn't seem like he's done anything. Because of this, he is now suing the university that let this happen to him, and is most likely able to sue her due to this constant defamation of character.

    No person traumatized by rape would be willing to recreate their own nightmare. This is someone desperate for more minutes of fame.
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    Was it her or one of the other girlfriends that followed him and texted him for weeks asking him to buttfuck them?

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    Its not a recreation of her rape, says so quite clearly on the website.

    She is still concerned with sexual violence given the way it impacted her life, so she has moved on from her own assault to talk about a different phenomeon (seems to be a strong critique of voyeurism).

    Whats the beef yall have with this?
    It is a recreation though. The linked article is really shitty and the writer seems to think it's real, but the writer's source clearly says it's a recreation.
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    Because the details are dubious of both the attempted rape and now this.

    Also I'd also argue what the hell is voyeurism in this context and what the hell is the critique? Porn by very definition is meant to be sexually arousing and viewed. People who fuck in public are doing public in-decency and perverts who invade other people's space are considered in-decent as well. What is she critiquing here, besides saying that we condone her rape " then I hope you reflect on your reasons for objectifying me and participating in my rape, "

    Is she talking about rape voyeurism? Was that ever really an accepted thing in society or something? Rape is wrong, its a crime, we arrest people for it, and we arrest those involved in it.
    I'm sure you would agree that not all depictions of sex or nudity constitute pornography. And I don't think this constitutes porn given its creation was about a scene of sexual violence.

    As for the voyeurism, thats the question. What are those watching the video expecting to get from it? Some insight into what "really" happened that night? Insofar as the scene represents sexual violence and the actor was a victim of sexual assault, what kind of sexual pleasure is the viewer hoping to find? As for what type of voyeurism, read the comments to see for yourself on that website.

    This is a pretty fascinating art piece precisely because it raises these questions - and more.
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    Very quick question, if she was a victim of the "rape", why the hell is she making a recreation of it, most of the time, people are too damn shocked to even rethink of their rape.
    because shes lying

    shes so bad at it she literally disproved herself in the lawsuit involving this. she even brought friends who fucked up lying.
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    Was it her or one of the other girlfriends that followed him and texted him for weeks asking him to buttfuck them?
    That was her, sometime AFTER the "incident".

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    It's like this was some long, elaborate art stunt.

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    Ahh, there's always that person.

    Literally zero of her allegations went through. There's chat logs and even facebook posts that denote she contacted him regularly after the date of his alleged "assault". As a result, her protest seemed to do literally nothing but slander the name of a person who doesn't seem like he's done anything. Because of this, he is now suing the university that let this happen to him, and is most likely able to sue her due to this constant defamation of character.

    No person traumatized by rape would be willing to recreate their own nightmare. This is someone desperate for more minutes of fame.
    People respond to trauma in different ways. Just because she isn't grieving the way you'd expect doesn't invalidate her or what she says happened to her?...

    Minutes of fame? Its an art project - she is clearly interested in a certain type of recognition, but it is not the recognition that comes from, "I got raped pity me!" It is a vastly different type of question this poses...
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    If you watch this video without my consent, then I hope you reflect on your reasons for objectifying me and participating in my rape
    what the fuck
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    Was it her or one of the other girlfriends that followed him and texted him for weeks asking him to buttfuck them?

    It was her who sent the "Fuck me in the butt" text.

  20. Post #20
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    what the fuck
    I don't feel bad for participating.
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    Seen the video now, the guy doing it had bigger boobs then she did. All in all i really cannot find the difference between an acted porno and this.
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  22. Post #22

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    what the fuck
    Look she is clearly onto something her - how many of you tried to watch this? lets say it was a re-enactment.

    What do we say about the thousands of videos people share on live leak of people being raped or murdered, and the voyeuristic impulse we have to watch them? Yall are clearly dismissing this without thinking a little bit about it or the important questions it raises as an art piece.
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    People respond to trauma in different ways. Just because she isn't grieving the way you'd expect doesn't invalidate her or what she says happened to her?...

    Minutes of fame? Its an art project - she is clearly interested in a certain type of recognition, but it is not the recognition that comes from, "I got raped pity me!" It is a vastly different type of question this poses...
    Dude, put down the defense. There are easily viewable court logs showing the evidence against her allegations through chat messages.

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  25. Post #25

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    Seen the video now, the guy doing it had bigger boobs then she did. All in all i really cannot find the difference between an acted porno and this.
    One is a recreation of a sexual assault/rape and the other is a scene created for sexual amusement for the watchers?
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    Seen the video now, the guy doing it had bigger boobs then she did. All in all i really cannot find the difference between an acted porno and this.
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    This woman should really seek medical help and therapy, like legit.

  29. Post #29
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    Very quick question, if she was a victim of the "rape", why the hell is she making a recreation of it, most of the time, people are too damn shocked to even rethink of their rape.
    This is ignorant to even question, really. Not everyone behaves the same way, especially to rape. Not every rape victim is catatonic for it.

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    One is a recreation of a sexual assault/rape and the other is a scene created for sexual amusement for the watchers?
    Alright, Big Booty Pirates 5: The Revenge of Moby Big Dick is now art. Why? Because i said so.
    That is basically what this whole thing is, more to the point, she is overstepping things way to far, you just cannot do shit like this and consider it art. The whole mattress thing, okay that is cool. Reenacting a rape scene (including penetrations, climax etc).. What..
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    Seen the video now, the guy doing it had bigger boobs then she did. All in all i really cannot find the difference between an acted porno and this.
    What are you trying to add to this discussion with this kind of post? It's just fishing for funnies. Talk about the news, not the dude in the video's tits.
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    the fedora whiteknight finally scored
    Probably the only type of dude desperate enough to fuck a crazy bitch like that.
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    It is a recreation though. The linked article is really shitty and the writer seems to think it's real, but the writer's source clearly says it's a recreation.
    Sorry about the article, first one I could find. But the final paragraph pretty much states how much sarcasm is in there

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    Alright, Big Booty Pirates 5: The Revenge of Moby Big Dick is now art. Why? Because i said so.
    That is basically what this whole thing is, more to the point, she is overstepping things way to far, you just cannot do shit like this and consider it art. The whole mattress thing, okay that is cool. Reenacting a rape scene (including penetrations, climax etc).. What..
    The "mattres thing" was form of endurance art. The 'art' that emerges here is not the film itself but the context surrounding it and the way audiences interact with it. The best way I can explain this to you is that it is much more postmodern in nature because the art experience is not the object piece itself but rather the relationship the viewer adopts to it when watching it.

    I'm sure in some circles Big Booty Pirates 5: The Revenge of Moby Big Dick could be art? Idk, why not? I would highly doubt it raises the interesting questions this piece raises...

    Edited:

    Walter-marine you sure like missing the forest for the trees eh?
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    The "mattres thing" was form of endurance art. The 'art' that emerges here is not the film itself but the context surrounding it and the way audiences interact with it. The best way I can explain this to you is that it is much more postmodern in nature because the art experience is not the object piece itself but rather the relationship the viewer adopts to it when watching it.

    I'm sure in some circles Big Booty Pirates 5: The Revenge of Moby Big Dick could be art? Idk, why not? I would highly doubt it raises the interesting questions this piece raises...
    Don't even bother, you're using big words and that's near offensive to some and you said post-modernism so you're probably a hipster to most people in Sensationalist Headlines. I mean, if it isn't as subtle as brick to the teeth then it's too much effort and the art has failed, apparently.
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    This inspired me to make my own artistic "sex" tape recreating the fact everyone is sexually ignoring me.

    It will be fifteen minutes of me, in clothes, sitting on a chair, eating cheetos.

    If you watch it just to make fun of a fat, sad, lonely man munching on cheetos, you are a sick bastard. Feel free to watch it if you feel with me though.
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    The "mattres thing" was form of endurance art. The 'art' that emerges here is not the film itself but the context surrounding it and the way audiences interact with it. The best way I can explain this to you is that it is much more postmodern in nature because the art experience is not the object piece itself but rather the relationship the viewer adopts to it when watching it.

    I'm sure in some circles Big Booty Pirates 5: The Revenge of Moby Big Dick could be art? Idk, why not? I would highly doubt it raises the interesting questions this piece raises...
    Alright so let's just go down the "everything is art" for a second. Most art is meant to be seen and is used a way to express feelings and emotions and to share those moments and sights immortal to time...

    So why the fuck would you make art that you don't no one to see? I mean this isn't she made something and feels ashamed about it, wanting it to go away. This is something made for people not to look at...

    It's like making child pornography for the sole purpose of saying don't look at child pornography.
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    ^
    Yes, constructing a fake child porn tape (based on a proported real event of child pornography) and saying don't watch it because it is child porn would function basically exactly the same as the way this art piece functions.

    It deals with prohibition, desire, jouissance, power, voyeurism. All of it. The film just isn't in a vaccume though, the question is posed to the viewer - a moment of reflection before they watch. So yes, it is art.
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    First of all
    Most art is meant to.
    is not the way to look at art.

    Secondly, I don't know where you got the impression no one was supposed to watch this or she wanted no one to see it.
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    Walter-marine you sure like missing the forest for the trees eh?
    And you sure like defending someone's slander & libel under the guise of "art".