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[–]reddit_user__ -9ポイント-8ポイント  (153子コメント)

Jup.

  • Having had lots of partners is a turn off, not a turn on.
  • Trying to impress with your last vacation or job is not at all turning us on.
  • Your achievements don't turn us on at all. All we care about is your character and appearance.
  • Having 1000 friends and being super social - the center of attention everywhere - might be hot in a guy, but in a girl we really don't give a shit

[–]morigaFemale 54ポイント55ポイント  (43子コメント)

Your achievements don't turn us on at all. All we care about is your character and appearance.

Is that really true? All of the guys I've met/dated in the past seemed genuinely interested in my achievements if only for the fact that they felt like they had more in common with me.

In fact, throughout my undergrad and now in my field, most of the guys I know (Ivy League educated/finance) have incredibly stringent expectations on the level of education/profession a potential girlfriend should have. Of course I've seen them hit on a variety of attractive women, but surprisingly when it comes to serious dating they'll always go for the girls with strong careers, prestigious education, and solid family background. At least in my experience, this has largely been ubiquitous.

[–]evengraves 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Achievements are nice, but definitely not a turn on.

[–]Arthrine 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

In fact, throughout my undergrad and now in my field, most of the guys I know (Ivy League educated/finance)

I don't think that this is a representative sample of the population.

[–]morigaFemale 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fair enough. I just see OP's sentiment echoed often enough on Reddit and wanted to give an opposing example since my personal experience has been so vastly different.

[–]FrankKaminsky 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have a similar background as you and also work in finance. I have found that guys at investment banks/funds and consulting firms look for achievements and ambition as a proxy for a woman who has things to do on her own. Appearance and personality come first. Then education and achievements. Ambition is last. It's not as much due to a lack of respect as it is due to their own ambitions crowding their minds. Lastly, a well-educated girl with a nice family comes with connections that can be leveraged for future success, their own or that of their kids. Sad, but it is true.

[–]toysjoe 10ポイント11ポイント  (11子コメント)

Those things are only a bonus.

I'd take a good-looking and pleasant girl who only did high school than a worse-looking unpleasant girl who has a PhD.

Now if I could have a good-looking pleasant girl with a PhD, that'd be nice, but the basics come first.

[–]morigaFemale 10ポイント11ポイント  (9子コメント)

I'd say appearance and character would come first for most people given that it's the bare minimum for some kind of romantic compatibility, but the assertion that "all we care about is your character and appearance" is a little bleak.

[–]dicklord_airplane 5ポイント6ポイント  (8子コメント)

it's more like physical sex appeal and character are the primary filter when looking for partners. if a girl doesn't look and act attractively enough, all of her accomplishments, money, status, etc. won't make up for it.

[–]bitchycunt3Female 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

I'm pretty sure that the same goes for most women...

[–]runningblack 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

How many wealthy/successful but ugly guys have hot wives?

Now how many wealthy/successful, but ugly, women have hot husbands?

There's a clear disparity there which indicates a trend.

[–]bitchycunt3Female -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

That could be explained by women having a larger disparity in who they find attractive, women being more influenced by character than sex appeal, or dozens of other explanations that aren't women dating a guy who has poor character and no sex appeal for his status, money, etc.

I know women in relationships like that and they're all sexually attracted to their partners. Just because you're not doesn't mean they aren't.

[–]runningblack 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

That could be explained by women having a larger disparity in who they find attractive, women being more influenced by character than sex appeal

Except the difference between the ugly guys with extremely attractive wives and the ones who don't is money/power/status.

Unless you're trying to say that every ugly dude who doesn't have money also doesn't have character, humor, etc.

So yes, women are influenced by other things. But money, status, power, etc. have been shown time and time again to supersede physical attraction among women significantly more than among men. Women rarely "date down" when it comes to economic or social status. Guys do.

Plenty of male CEO's have wives who aren't known for anything other than being married to their husbands. Female CEO's? Almost all of them are dating someone who is on that level.

[–]bitchycunt3Female 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

There are also male ceos who wouldn't date someone who wasn't also successful. There are also more male ceos than women ceos and I hardly think either is a good indicator of how the average member of their gender acts or feels.

Women tend to use success as an indicator of ambition, confidence, dedication, and other traits that they find attractive more than men do, which I personally think partially accounts for the difference. I have also seen many women (and been the woman) dating a less conventionally attractive guy whom they find attractive and whose personality they find attractive who also wasn't particularly successful. I know absolutely no one who dates someone they aren't attracted to and thinks had a shit personality just because they're successful

[–]adga77 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not really. Lots of women are willing to settle down with a guy they may not find physically attractive just because he has a set of accomplishments that appeal to them (such as wealth, social status, job etc.)

What each gender finds attractive differs. Generally speaking, woman place the above characteristics as greater importance when finding a partner.

[–]bitchycunt3Female 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I personally know absolutely no women who puts accomplishments, money, or status above how a person looks and acts. Specifically when you include acts on the list, which op did

[–]gumpythegreat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd say personality and an interesting woman tops all of those. And in my experience, educated people with careers are more interesting than people who barely got high school and work some shit job. And educated, career oriented women are less likely to just be into me because I'm stable and have a good job

[–]rump_truckMale 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

I love a girl with some accomplishments behind her. It means she has interesting experiences, which usually means interesting insights and some good stories to tell. Also, it means she can get shit done, and I like that.

[–]BayAreaDreamer 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ivy League educated/working in finance

I'm gonna bet that commentor was not Ivy League educated...

[–]jhox87Male 19ポイント20ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yeah, that list isn't very good. Achievements are important to me. I've got a couple degrees and a decent job, and my best relationships have been with women who have arguably been more educated and/or successful than me. They made me want to be more ambitious and I find their drive really attractive.

[–]definitelytotesFemale 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

It didn't seem like he knew what women want in men (literally never swooned over how many women my SO has been with) or what men want on women. He's confusing his narrow perspective with one that is more far reaching.

[–]LivingDeadGirl2878 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thank you!

[–]iambecomedownvote [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Thank you the guy who's looking for a sugar mama to pay the bills while he stays home and plays video games all day?

[–]FCnL2GFJ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

depends on short term or long term attraction.

[–]dicklord_airplane 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

education, accomplishments, status certainly make women more respectable, interesting, and attractive as long term mates, but they will never inspire sexual attraction on their own. some women are confused and think that their accomplishments alone should make men want them, but that's not how male attraction and arousal works. we are still mere animals, and we are driven towards hot, fit, healthy, beautiful young women. physical sex appeal is necessary to get a man, and your education and accomplishments have nothing to do with that.

[–]KCSunshine111 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

But achievements alone turn women on?...

[–]watermastaMale 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is that really true?

Maybe for him it is. Certainly not all of us.

My wife is very accomplished I her career and it turns me on so much to see how driven she is.

[–]metsman913 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

No. I find achievements and your last vacation very interesting. This guy doesn't like smart/strong women.

[–]Michaelm3911 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I care about her education and accomplishments. I just don't want to feel like she's gloating on and on about her top of the notch job. I don't go around gloating, neither should you. That says something about who she is as a person. The list was bad because I care a great deal of where a woman's intentions lie in regards of education and betterment. Of course, I'm just one dude though.

[–]morigaFemale 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree. Someone relying on their achievements as a substitute for character is unattractive for both genders.

[–]mactasty 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about, I would say MOST men want an achiever

[–]Fletch71011 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

In fact, throughout my undergrad and now in my field, most of the guys I know (Ivy League educated/finance) have incredibly stringent expectations on the level of education/profession a potential girlfriend should have.

I'm in the same field and while this is fairly true, a lot of the men in this field date younger (10+ years), traditionally very attractive girls who don't really have ambitions beyond getting married and having kids. I don't understand it but it happens fairly frequently.

[–]Chubbybrownbear 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Achievements are important to me as well - if it's not a one-time hookup.

[–]17warwick 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm an Ivy League guy in finance and this is my experience too. I like girls with ambition, achievements, and education; I don't think a person could really understand me if they didn't. We'd probably have different values. Plus, I like the idea of having a Frank / Claire Underwood type thing - I'd rather have a partner in crime than a housewife. That'd just be boring.

I guess this a case of "things that are attractive for a relationship" vs "things that are sexually attractive."

[–]LouBrown 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is that really true? All of the guys I've met/dated in the past seemed genuinely interested in my achievements if only for the fact that they felt like they had more in common with me.

My wife's achievements and career ambition are definitely attractive qualities to me.

[–]ScienceIsMetalFemale 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ditto. I'm working on my third biology degree, and am constantly surrounded by really smart, motivated, high-achieving people. I think we academics put ourselves in a 'people bubble,' but it does make for a pretty interesting dating pool.

[–]gumpythegreat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are right, I want a woman who has goals, achievements, and a life outside of their man, and education and a career are pretty indicative of that. That other man does not speak for us all

[–]PinguRambo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not to everybody. I'm building a good career and I expect from a partner to be in the same mindset.

Maybe not to the same extent but at least busy and interested in her job.

[–]-del2phiMale 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Is that really true?

No. At least, the usual caveats apply when making generalizations about a set of people. I for one love it when girls have accomplished something they're proud of, and enjoy hearing about it, especially if they're enthusiastic.

[–]morigaFemale 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right, it just seems like a natural thing to want to truly be compatible with someone. If you're ambitious, educated, and established in your own life, it seems strange to not want somewhat similar aspects in a close partner.

[–]Matais99Male 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kind of disagree with most of your list.

  • Pretty sure discussing your numerous past partners is a turnoff for both genders.

  • Vacation and work are good topics. They can tell you a lot about a person

  • Completely disagree about the achievements. I wouldn't date someone who was accomplishing nothing with their life.

  • Being center of attention all the time is annoying, yes. But she's gotta have some friends. I don't want her life to revolve around me. Whether its 5 friends or a 100, doesn't really matter.

[–]definitelytotesFemale 21ポイント22ポイント  (16子コメント)

As a woman I am not at all attracted to what you described and have never encountered another female who said to me, "oh my god he's been with so many women it's so sexy" or "he just got back from Mexico on vacation wow I want him!" Doesn't sound like you know exactly what women want in a man.

[–]reddit_user__ -5ポイント-4ポイント  (14子コメント)

It's not what they say of course. Just like nobody would say "he's so rich, I need him!".

Look what they do, not what they say.

[–]definitelytotesFemale 10ポイント11ポイント  (12子コメント)

Right. And again, as a woman with female friends, not something I've encountered. Maybe you need to broaden your horizons a little and meet some new people.

[–]reddit_user__ -1ポイント0ポイント  (10子コメント)

We've had different experiences then.

[–]definitelytotesFemale 5ポイント6ポイント  (9子コメント)

Indeed, which is why I hope you'll branch out a little and meet some new people, or perhaps get to know the ones that are already in your life a bit better. I think you'll find that men and women both are just looking for a person that they are compatible with, not some predetermined set of characteristics. I've been in 3 long term relationships with 3 very different men because like everyone else I'm just trying to find someone who I make happy and who makes me happy, most people aren't "set" on what they want or need.

[–]reddit_user__ -2ポイント-1ポイント  (8子コメント)

That's not what this is about at all. I'm not talking about standards or whatever. I have dated a lot and have observed what I wrote in that list. Girls often try to impress me or talk about how experienced they are sexually etc. As if they have no clue that it is simply offturning.

[–]definitelytotesFemale 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

Right, so maybe date different types of girls is what I was saying there. Because again, I think myself and the girls I am friends with are pretty cool ladies and this has never ever happened.

[–]Hereletmegooglethat 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

What do girls do to you when they're trying to impress you or make you attracted to them?

[–]bitchycunt3Female 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cleavage. If I'm trying to make someone attracted to me, my girl friends and I are going to pick out a form fitting but not too revealing outfit with lots of cleavage.

If I'm trying to impress him...well, then I just try talking about my job or interests until I find once he's interested in. Or I listen to what he's talking about and show my knowledge or interest in that

[–]definitelytotesFemale 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

As my comment said I am a girl and I am straight so this isn't something I've encountered.

[–]reddit_user__ -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I have to go on dates to get to know them don't I? ;-)

[–]definitelytotesFemale 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, not really. I've never been on a date with a new person as a way to move into a relationship and I've still managed to get to know a lot of people. And you could be just dating women based on how they look, which doesn't always lead to the best results.

[–]tarrasque -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

My wife isn't (obviously), but many of my wife's more long-time friends are unashamed gold diggers. Must be why they've drifted apart.

[–]KCSunshine111 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is this thread filled with trolls today or something? Because I'm pretty sure this attitude (and from other replies in this thread too) is not the norm on /r/AskMen.

[–]BOX_OF_CATS 18ポイント19ポイント  (6子コメント)

Is having a lot of partners a turn on to women? Not being snarky to you OP, I'm genuinely curious. I'm a female and I wouldn't consider that attractive to have tons of partners, in fact it would detract from them. Especially if it's something they're mentioning to me that early in a conversation. I'd think they were just a player and move on. I also don't find having 1000s of friends and being the center of attention that appealing. I'm more of an introvert and that sounds like hell to me. I'd rather him have a small group of friends he hangs out with that he's close to.

And lastly, for me, it's not the job I'm attracted to but how passionate he is about the job. My SO is an entomologist and I'm not with him for how much money he makes, because I make more than him. But I love how much he loves his job and that he gets excited when he talks about it. I love that he's got a rather unique job and he can teach me new things.

Idk. again, not slamming your thoughts. I guess we just have different ideas on dating. And that's fine! There's someone for everyone out there!

[–]petkoalasFemale -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

i agree completely with your first point. i find men who've been around a lot a pretty major turn off... i'm not into the idea of casual sex and want to date someone with similar views as me on love and intimacy.

[–]PinguRambo 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Trying to impress with your last vacation or job is not at all turning us on.

I disagree with this, I prefer someone busy and interested in something than a boring girl.

[–]pridejoker[S] 35ポイント36ポイント  (44子コメント)

Having had lots of partners is a turn off, not a turn on.

I don't judge a woman for this especially given how we want them to be forward with what they want, they're gonna rack up a higher score so it doesn't make sense to give them shit for being sexperienced. Granted I wouldn't want them to flaunt it just as they wouldn't want me to either.

[–]nocendi 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't judge a woman for this

You might not, but even on reddit (which is very pro sex), a significant majority showed that they did.

[–]reddit_user__ 12ポイント13ポイント  (42子コメント)

To me it's a turn off. It's not like I can control it.

[–]stumpsforscienceFemale 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

How many sexual partners have you had? It seems to me that men often want a woman with less than them, because they don't like the idea of her having more sexual experience than him.

Of course the same often goes for women, but I find it generally is more of a "I want him to have the same attitude about sex as me, and sleeping around doesn't work with my attitude about it."

[–]BeachHouse4lyfMale 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

It seems to me that men often want a woman with less than them, because they don't like the idea of her having more sexual experience than him.

I agree. I also find it to be true that women don't generally like men to have less sexual experience than they do, but I feel like the correlation isn't as strong.

So, why? I think it all goes back to cultural defitions of masculinity, ergo: gender norms. A lot of masculinity is tied up in being sex-driven and consequently being very skilled at sex. A man with a high partner count is a man's man, who was able to woo a wide array of women, and he presumably knows what he's doing sexually. A woman with a higher partner count arouses a fear in some men that, a) she will recognize that he's not "good" at sex, or b) he won't be as "good" as her past partners. I feel like this insecurity--that being with a more experienced woman will show the guy up as less "good" at sex and therefore make him feel like less of a man--is behind this. And, to some extent, women buy into the same ideas about men with more or less sexual experience being more or less manly.

Of course, cultural notions of femininity including women being more passively interested in sex likely make some men see more sexually active women as less feminine, so I know it isn't entirely about insecurity, either.

Edited for clarity

[–]reddit_user__ 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

15-20. I know it's a double standard but I would be turned off by that number if a girl told me that. Girls however don't seem to mind at all. Quite the opposite actually.

[–]stumpsforscienceFemale 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oooh, awkward answer. Hey you do whatever is right for you, man! But it is quite the unfair double standard, however you obviously already realize this.

As a girl who's only had three partners, I don't really care how many sexual partners a guy has had as long as he tends to view sex the same as me (prefers it in a relationship, but isn't opposed to FWB type stuff.) However if he told me that he's had numerous sexual partners but prefers his women to have very few, that double standard would be the deal breaker for me.

[–]reddit_user__ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not like anyone would ever tell you about his expectations from you, haha.

[–]pridejoker[S] 23ポイント24ポイント  (36子コメント)

Then I guess you're operating under a paradox.. You've limited yourself to women who have had only a handful of sexual partners but have somehow amassed sufficient experience to keep things interesting, it's not a big portion of the venn diagram.

[–]cohrt 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

You've limited yourself to women who have had only a handful of sexual partners but have somehow amassed sufficient experience to keep things interesting,

you're assuming every guy has tons of experience. a girl who was a dead fish in bed would be interesting enough for me.

[–]pridejoker[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

you my friend have not lived.

[–]cohrt 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

i've never even been on a date. i'll take whatever i can get at this point.

[–]ahatmadeofshoes12 35ポイント36ポイント  (15子コメント)

Doesn't make sense to me either. I'm not sure how guys reconcile wanting a girl with a high libido, kinks and who really likes sex with wanting a girl who hasn't had a lot of sex. Generally people who like sex are going to seek it out and have it.

[–]MajinAshMale 39ポイント40ポイント  (2子コメント)

I have high libido, kinks and really like sex and I haven't had many partners. I like to find someone and stick with them, and I'd like a partner that shares that attitude.

I don't see what is confusing about a lot of guys wanting this.

[–]bitchycunt3Female 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

That may work at younger ages but when you start hitting mid-20s even those longer relationships start to stack up and most people I see with high partner counts being a turn off think of high as over 5. If I'm 28 and first had sex at 18 that's 2 years a partner. Personally that seems mind boggling to me.

That's just how I think of arbitrary partner counts though. I have no qualms with people who don't really mind the number but mind the circumstance (10 one night stands is a turn off but 10 relationships that happened to involve sex is fine) because that makes sense to me

[–]stumpsforscienceFemale -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree somewhat. Ive had three sexual partners (all serious relationships)and I'm in my mid twenties. I have many kinks and have a high libido. However to some men (mainly virgin men, I've found) even my number of three would be too high for them.

I find a lot of it stems from the insecurity of knowing they aren't the only (and therefore guaranteed #1) sexual partner she's had. Or to get more sociological: the idea that a chick who's had sex with three guys is like drinking a cup of water three people have spat in.

[–]nocendi 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Amount of partners and amount of sex are not correlated.

Indeed, people who have multiple partners tends to have less sex than people who engage in stable relationships.

The issue is the judgment applied in choosing partners. The presumption is that a girl who has a lot of partners is rather indiscriminate about who she sleeps with.

Has nothing to do with the amount of sex she has had.

[–]kalithrall 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is true; but I think having so many partners that you effectively lose count is a sign of a deeper issue. Regardless of gender. Although I think women do bear an unfairly greater social consequence.

[–]bitchycunt3Female 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

See and I feel like keeping track of higher numbers or asking about a partner's number are signs of deeper issues for both genders.

[–]boolean_sledgehammer 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

No guy wants to be with a woman who has had sex with a thousand guys. They will, however, line up around the block for a girl who had sex with one guy a thousand times.

This is a really simple distinction.

[–]AndiemusMale 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm also confused.

[–]pi22seven 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because people want to feel special.

Around 4000 people have climbed Everest, but millions have been to Disney.

I'm not saying one is better than the other and to be honest you'll probably have more fun at Disney, but there is something to be valued about being one of the few to see the view from Everest.

[–]parrotpeopleMale 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Because girls get horny just the same if they aren't sexually experienced. Plus, some of us like to teach rather than get "Wow that's the first time I've ever been tied up upside down and had a guy cum in my ass while a midget tickles your balls, I feel sooooo close to you."

[–]stumpsforscienceFemale 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm curious: What's the importance of teaching a girl? Regardless of sexual history there's always going to require some "teaching" in a new couple as they learn what works for each other sexually.

At least if she's had some sexual experience she knows how things work, rather than you having to explain stuff like feeling like she needs to pee is her on the brink of orgasm, not the brink of wetting the bed. (A real issue I've noticed virgin women expressing concern about.)

It's not like a woman goes from pure and virginal to "anal gang bang with midgets" after a couple sexual partners. Or are you using your example as a way to explain how you view women who have had multiple partners?

[–]parrotpeopleMale 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What's the importance? It's fun. It's a power trip.

And the anal gang bang with midgets thing is a humorous way of expressing the type of experience I've had, where a girl will be all excited that we're breaking new sexual ground together, but it's something obscure and seemingly far past that tentative exploration of early sexual experiences. I suppose it has to do mainly with my own view of sex that, by the time you're at that point (the midget anal gangbang), who gives a fuck? It's diminishing returns where say, after spanking a girl, it's a much smaller jump to using a paddle or something, than just going straight from vanilla to a paddle.

The way I resolve all these thoughts is to just shut my brain off and live in the moment. It's a lot easier not trying to figure out life all the time.

[–]Proud-DutchmanMale 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who said all men want girls with 'kinks'? I don't want a girl with 'kinks'. Lots of guys don't, I presume. And a high libido has nothing to do with the number of sexual partners you've had. Either you have a low libido or you have a high libido, that's it.

[–]mactasty -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

It doesn't really make sense, but the logic some people employ is that if she only has a few partners then it's more likely she's been responsible and won't like, have an STD or something, which I can kind of understand.

On the other hand you have people who might not admit it, but are probably just intimidated and don't like feeling like they are the sexually inexperienced one.

[–]Beli_Mawrr -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The problem is guys want thay girl to have lots of sex with THEM and Noone else.

[–]gooblechicken 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

Because it's not a logical thing.

I know logically, and practically, that I shouldn't care if a girl has had 1 or 100 partners. Despite that, I still can't help but see it as a bit of a turn off. Not much of a turn off, but still a turn off.

Illogical attraction seems a rather common thing. Many people want that exciting partner who will take them partying around the world but then want them to settle down and enjoy parenting or they are attracted to a fit physique but then get annoyed at the amount of time they spend exercising.

[–]FDFlowrite 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Agreed on the not being able to help it being a turn off.

To the second girl I slept with, I was number 19. She told me that after we slept together several weeks into dating. It shook me up. She'd managed to sleep with as many people as years she'd been alive.

Consciously, I know it shouldn't have bothered me, she was with me at the time, not any of those other 18... But it freaked me out.

[–]AptCasaNova 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

How do you feel about both parties just keeping it to themselves?

More often than not, it's how things have gone down with past partners and my current SO.

[–]FDFlowrite 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I tend towards a don't ask don't tell policy. My conversation with that ex came up because she asked me my number, and then got all defensive when I asked her the same question.

In the future, I'll probably just have them keep it to themselves. I'm not sure how I'd feel if, talking to my next girlfriend, the numbers come out like 4-25 or something, but idk. Odds are I won't date someone like that again.

Quick edit to actually answer your question: Yeah, I'd much prefer just keeping it to ourselves until I was far enough in the relationship for it to not bother me.

[–]AptCasaNova 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I can't really envision a scenario where telling someone your 'number' makes sense. Asking just hints at insecurity and judgmental tendencies - though I will tell if asked (otherwise I am labelled a Mega Slut because people assume the worse). I just can't stand the entire process.

I mean, if you want to know if I'm clean, then that's awesome because I always ask new partners if they've been tested, etc and that means we're on the same page.

[–]reddit_user__ 0ポイント1ポイント  (10子コメント)

I have no idea what you mean man, sorry... English is not my first language.

[–]pridejoker[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (9子コメント)

It's not really realistic want a girl who's very sexual and likes having sex but hasn't had a lot of partners, it's like wanting a guy who looks like athletic muscular guy who doesn't exercise or eat healthy.

[–]Could_of_is_wrong 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

There are people who are very sexual but choose to express that in relationships only. Number of partners is not an indicator of skill or interest level.

[–]pridejoker[S] 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oh I'm not saying they don't exist. I'm just not a big believer of double standards along with standards that become less realistic as you age.

[–]reddit_user__ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I didn't say it's a standard. I said it's a turn off.

[–]Hereletmegooglethat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

A lot of standards become less realistic as people age.

[–]Proud-DutchmanMale 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have a female friend who's very sexual and likes sex a lot, yet she only has had three partners. The connection between 'lots of partners' and 'likes sex' is non-existent.

[–]reddit_user__ 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why that? Lots of girls are very sexual but don't like casual sex. These things don't exclude each other. There are lots of reserved girls who go crazy once she feels comfortable.

[–]LivingDeadGirl2878 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think I am very sexual even though I've only been with 2 guys and waited a long time to lose virginity. The number doesn't correlate to how horny we are.

[–]parrotpeopleMale 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

All girls (in my experience) are very sexual under the right circumstances, so the number of partners has nothing to do with that. Plus, I've met more open girls with 0 experience and girls with experience who still needed a ton of guidance on how to be sexy.

[–]frioleroo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unlike the muscular guy, that girl was just as horny and explorative before she racked up that number. You'd be misguided to think that means she's very young. Frankly, it doesn't get much better than a woman who's had some sex but hasn't discovered how much she loves it until she met you.

[–]nocendi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Then I guess you're operating under a paradox.

There's nothing wrong with paradoxes in what you find attractive.

I love getting blowjobs; I'd hate to give one.
I love small, petite girls; I'd be fucked if I tried to hit on a girl who also liked small petite girls.

The list could go on. In any relationship, the two parties have a different list of priorites. There doesn't need to be any overlap.

[–]Ravenman2423 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

... Speak for yourself.

[–]metsman913 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're in college huh?

[–]OfSpock 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Achievements is the only one I would find attractive of those.

[–]couve-florFemale 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Same. Am I supposed to be turned on by a guy that sleeps around a lot? Or that has thousands of friends? Ugh.

[–]gevannFemale 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah I think there's some misunderstanding here between the genders.

Guys think girls find "players" attractive, and it's true for a lot of women but it's not because women inherently find the number of partners to be an attractive selling-point. It's more so the fact that "players" are generally good at flirting, chatting, charm, and socializing, and oftentimes those traits come with the territory of having slept with a lot of women.

I've literally never met a girl shut down a perfectly intelligent, attractive, and charming guy because he's only slept with 5 girls instead of 50. I mean, those girls definitely could exist, but I think fellow female users here can agree that they are not the norm.

[–]couve-florFemale 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've literally never met a girl shut down a perfectly intelligent, attractive, and charming guy because he's only slept with 5 girls instead of 50.

I'd be skeeved out if he slept with 50, ahah.

[–]Arthrine 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Trying to impress with your last vacation

If I have to hear about one more trip to Machu Picchu...

[–]McPhatiusJacksonMale 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've heard so much about it, you'd think I've been there.

[–]muffy2008 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

Umm.... I don't think you're the type of guy most women want.

[–]reddit_user__ 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Because you don't agree with me?

Sorry to disappoint you but I am very successful with women, haha.

[–]muffy2008 -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

Good for you. Getting laid though isn't the same as getting a quality, smart, good looking girl who wants to spend her life with you. If you have one, touché, but I hope you would at least give her the decency of caring about her accomplishments, career, or whatever she's passionate about. That's assuming sex isn't the only thing you care about though.

[–]reddit_user__ 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Wow, you assume a lot about me. You don't know me at all.

[–]muffy2008 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm assuming based off your comment. But it doesn't matter what I think. I'm just glad the main consensus around here is a lot of men don't agree. So I'm happy.

[–]reddit_user__ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reddit is always trying to be politically correct. Reddit != reality.

[–]The_Third_Three 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Jup.

  • Having had lots of partners is a turn off, not a turn on.

Speak for yourself

[–]nocendi 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think he does.

Indeed, I think everyone on reddit always speaks for themselves. That's sort of how opinions work.

[–]Hereletmegooglethat 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's a bold claim, have you tried speaking for yourself though?

[–]Sunjammer0037Female 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Achievements, job, social status are related to character. Having a good job indicates you're hardworking, patient, dedicated and smart and have your shit together (maybe not all of these but certainly some of these). Being the centre of attention indicates you're friendly, interesting, funny and have good social skills (again, maybe not all of these but some). Both men and women judge each other on these things. A lot of women don't like successful men because they earn a lot of money but because of the character traits being successful indicates. Same with men.

I always find it funny when one guy is acting like a self-elected representative of ~3,5 billion people, though.

[–]Hereletmegooglethat 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I always find it funny when one guy is acting like a self-elected representative of ~3,5 billion people, though.

You're doing the same.

To your points I don't see why it matters how they interpret those characteristics. Just because they find the qualities associated with those doesn't make it less correct.

[–]gs14052 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I always find it funny when one guy is acting like a self-elected representative of ~3,5 billion people, though.

Seriously... and not a great representative.

I either don't really care (partners) or find those bullets to be points of attraction.

[–]MessedupMakeup 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

How vain must you be to assume a girl tells you about her achievements, job, passions and travel to turn you on as opposed to because she wants to share the things she's passionate about...that's kind of insane. Women aren't travelling and pursuing their careers to nag a husband, you know that right?

[–]reddit_user__ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I never said that. Don't put words in my mouth that I never said.

Passions etc are a very good thing but I can differentiate between someone who is passionate and someone who's trying to impress with these things on a first date.

I have dated a lot and lots of the girls have no clue about how offturning some of it is. They might like what they talk about in a guy but it isn't the same in reverse.

[–]3dogs3cats1goodlifeFemale -3ポイント-2ポイント  (7子コメント)

You're only shooting yourself in the foot with that list you realize.

[–]reddit_user__ 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

Because?

[–]3dogs3cats1goodlifeFemale 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

  1. Men want a woman who isn't into sex. People who are into sex are going to have partners. Then men complain when their bedrooms turn dead with low partner count women.

2-3: Men don't care about jobs or achievements, but then turn around and bitch about paying for dinner/ child support/ alimony. Don't want to pay? Start caring about a woman's job/ education / wealth. 4: having lots of friends is an undervalued resource. When you have a rolodex that has a name for every need and situation, it helps.

If all you value is a cute girl who giggles at all your jokes, that's exactly what you'll get and not a thing more.

[–]reddit_user__ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

  1. Men want a woman who isn't into sex. People who are into sex are going to have partners. Then men complain when their bedrooms turn dead with low partner count women.

I never said men want a girl who isn't into sex.

2-3: Men don't care about jobs or achievements, but then turn around and bitch about paying for dinner/ child support/ alimony. Don't want to pay? Start caring about a woman's job/ education / wealth.

I never said it's irrelevant. Just that it's offturning to try and impress men with it.

4: having lots of friends is an undervalued resource. When you have a rolodex that has a name for every need and situation, it helps..

[–]leprekon89 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Probably because anyone with a decent level of character is going to be the opposite of everything on that list.

[–]Hereletmegooglethat 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

They'll have no friends?

[–]leprekon89 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oops, meant to say that they will have everything on that list

[–]IcarusBurning -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Speak for yourself on that first point. Lots of partners + safe can be a huge turn on.

[–]reddit_user__ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not talking about every guy on this planet. Of course there are exceptions.

[–]hndvfMale -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is so true!