Duggar family says real crime is release of molestation records

FragMeNot · 3時間前

Can we all agree that sister-diddling is wrong?

PooJizzPuree · 4時間前

The records were never sealed because he was 18, when they reported it and the names of the victims were redacted. The idiot parents identified the victims, not the records.

Ricky_Droschmidt · 2時間前

The real crime is that people watch this shit

eyeofthetigerhawk · 12時間前

The Duggar girls who spoke out have every right to be more upset about the release of their records. Their identity as victims was publicly broadcast to the entire country and has been a topic of conversation ever since. They hopefully had made their peace and received counseling after the abuse, and now, without their consent, their private traumas are being broadcast.

I don't care what the parents say, or that brother...but the girls who went through this can and should be upset that the release of information identified them. It was careless and hurtful to the victims. I think the brother deserves all the bad press he's getting right now, but not at the expense of his sisters/victims.

Edit: A lot of people are saying the Duggar sisters "outed" themselves. But come on, everyone had access to the fact that four of the sisters were the victims, as well as their ages. Stop blaming them for speaking out. They deserve to take a little control of the situation and present their views on THEIR OWN LIVES to the public. It was a brave move that I hope has helped them both in dealing with the shit situation that was created by a lot of people in their lives who were supposed to protect them and failed miserably (brother, parents, church, AND law enforcement/judicial system).

_Joe_Blow_ · 9時間前

Just so everyone is clear on one issue. The names of the victims were never released by the reports. No where on them does it state a single name other than the perpetrators. However, we are able to imply that it was his sisters who were molested from the reports (It is kind of hard not to imply as the reports kind of had to state that the molestations occurred within the family). Also the real crime isn't the release of the molestation records. It is the act of molestation. Without it there would have been no reports to release in the first place and it is sickening that the parents even suggested that releasing the reports was the real crime in their interview.

Chrysalis1 · 3時間前

Fuck the Duggars. Im sick of hearing about them and their 50 kids. First it was because they had 50 kids. Now its because they are sick fucks to their kids. Lots of shit happens to people much worse than this in the same flavor on a daily basis. But these whacked out creeps shit out 50 kids and suddenly they are super stars with lots of money and fame. Stop talking about the fucking Duggars.

drea14 · 4時間前

Their only regret is being caught, really.

undercoversausage · 3時間前

wow, that is called being extensively fucked in the head where I come from.

freedemboner · 2時間前

Let's be honest: We all knew something wasn't right about that family from Season One: Episode One.

JayVenture · 2時間前

The real crime is them raising their kids in conditions like that in this century, the karma hit them when they sold out to TV for money. This is only another fallout of poorly executed get rich schemes. The one thing I don't understand is we have child labor laws to protect kids from working but the entertainment Industry gets a pass and they are the ones reporting statistically the highest rates of child abuse. As a victim of child abuse/molestation myself, my teenage male cousin sodomized me when I was six years old in Iran before immigrating to the USA, it is a horrible thing to have to live with your whole life, mostly in secret, because you don't understand what really happened and can't quite communicate it with the family due to shame or threats, as you grow older the more you learn about society, sexuality, and sexual preferences the more difficult the ptsd becomes for the experience. And with how bi polar is in its understanding and empathy I find myself at odds with society and people all the time. I rarely leave my house. It really messes with my psyche. I'll just have normal days where everything's great and scumbag brain recalls the events and I go into remission, just shut down and out from society and lay in bed endlessly. Hoping wish praying it haven't happened to me, and knowing that there's nothing I can do to change it, and it will haunt me until I die. I don't know what he is doing today my abuser, a few years back he had the audacity to hunt me down on Facebook and befriend me. While I was emasculated do he was empowered at an early age. I suppose that's where a lot of introverted extroverted, confident, shy, character traits really develop, depending on your role in the horrible event.

corathus59 · 3時間前

They covered up a serial child molester. Then they sent him out on the road vilifying gays by accusing all gays of being child molesters. When this is discovered, they insist the crime is people exposing what they have done?

What I find most offending is the way they insist this is an attack on Christianity. This has nothing to do with Christianity. As a Christian I note where Jesus warned of those who would accuse others of what they do in secret. He called them "children of the Devil", and "white washed tombs". I think we see why in these events.

cardboardguru13 · 4時間前

Disgusting all around. The more they defend themselves, the more I want to see them in jail, and the more sad their poor kids appear from their warped upbringing.

Cindernubblebutt · 4時間前

They wanted fame. They got what goes along with it.

ironpathwalker · 4時間前

Unless their legal council is Bill Cosby, I'm pretty sure sexual assault of a minor is the crime.

sarcastroll · 3時間前

What I don't understand is how this is a right-wing vs. left-wing issue.

Why would Fox defend him?

Should child molestation kinda be one of those subjects both parties can unite against? Does EVERYTHING have to be about politics?

I sometimes think Obama could guarentee a Dem victory in 2016 by simply holding a press conference and saying "I, President Obama, want to make it very clear you are NOT allowed to shoot yourself in the head!". It seems like half the country would be ready to grab their guns and take a stand against not shooting themselves in the head.

Muh_Condishuns · 4時間前

Of course. Because pointing out the hypocrisy of fundie weirdos is bad. We should just let them continue to be pious, sanctimonious frauds to protect everyone's feelings.

fcukthemoderators3 · 4時間前

You made the decision to put your family, all their intimate moments and drama, on stage for the world to see in order to feed your vanity and line your pockets. Now live with the consequences of your actions.

ECS142 · 5時間前

Until this came out, I had no idea who this family was, so I cannot claim to be an expert on their "christian values". However, they grossly mishandled their son's abuse of their own daughters. The fact that "the girls didn't really understand what was happening" is being used as a defence is astounding - this is one of the hallmarks of sexual abuse involving small children, and can be VERY damaging to the psyche of a child as they grow up. It often greatly impacts their ability to have a healthy sex life (though that was never really a possibility for these girls - all the more reason this is a gross injustice) Granted, I think the release of the records was exceptionally cruel to the victims of his abuse - but these parents AND their son need to be held accountable for their actions, and stop defending what their child did.

aunt_pearls_hat · 8時間前

Well, I suppose your brush with the real world really didn't do as much to spread the word of 1600's Jesus as it did to make your family and beliefs into a literal freakshow?

...you beady-eyed wanker.

tvfuzz · 3時間前

IF they would have handled the situation with tact and responsibility- there'd be little story to interest the media.

They chose to be religious freak-shows about it, and the lens is now on them because this attitude exists in MANY families- seeing the consequences and "morality" their beliefs instill, causes quite a bit of interest and debate.

They brought it on themselves. Don't cry to me about it. Its unfair to the kids- sure. LOTS of things are unfair to children of messed up parents. Worse things, even.

The parents are FAR from victims. I wish they could be humiliated without their kids being in the spotlight- but they CHOSE to make their whole family a public spectacle. Doing that is fine to them, as long as they're getting paid.

RochesterJosh · 3時間前

No, sir... the real crime is the molestation. Don't get it twisted.

hellno_ahole · 2時間前

"The girls "didn't really understand" what happened, Jim Bob said at one point."

As a survivor of child sexual abuse, I can tell you no matter the age, those girls knew something wasn't right in his actions. Whether repressed memories resurface later in life as dreams or something triggers that memory, it's there. Releasing the records is/can be harmful to the victims, but probably not has harmful as having to defend your abuser in the media spotlight.

teachrhomb · 4時間前

I believe the sisters identified themselves. I would bet anything they were pressured into stepping forward as part of damage control. The terrifying part of this is that it was most likely part of the public relations scheme to make the family appear as the real victims. It just justifies to me what a sick sad world they are living in.

thatssomething · 3時間前

Everything about this makes me literally nauseous.

GirlNumber20 · 2時間前

Ah, victimhood. When you're in the wrong, instantly claim to be the REAL victim.

rucb_alum · 1時間前

Real crime? Well, both are crimes, aren't they?

Only one crime hasn't had the statute of limitations run out.

amanda780 · 3時間前

This family is sickening. "It's ok because Josh was 14 - the REAL molesters are 16 and over!"

HeyYouAndrew · 4時間前

A spinoff could be considered? How do you make a spinoff? '5 Kids and Counting'?

Azonata · 2時間前

Is it just me or does it seem rather silly to star in a national reality show when you have this kind of dirt going round in the family?

bergie321 · 2時間前

He clearly got confused and forgot that his show wasn't Sister Wives.

monteqzuma · 1時間前

We didn't know the names of the sisters he molested until they were on Fox, and they say the media is to blame. Duggered again.

_pigpen_ · 1時間前

As an atheist, the more I think about this the more I am coming to the conclusion that religion is a force for good in the world. People like the Duggars who claim that without God or religion we would all be raping and/or murdering, they're the ones who need religion most, because they're likely the ones with no personal moral compass who would indeed be murdering and raping otherwise. (I'm specifically talking about those who make this claim, not the rest of the faithful. Even when I was religious it always struck me that if the only reason people did good was to earn a place in heaven, then they were still only doing it for their self interest. Better to do it because it was the right thing to do, not because you expected some reward.)

ecd94538 · 1時間前

Josh was wrong, the real crime is the adults that did nothing, he told his parents several times, and they did nothing until the third time and sent him to some christian concealing(and even that is in dispute). The police did not do their jobs, and the Judge ordered the destruction of the files documenting the crime. Josh is a 15 year old brought up in an environment that Women should be subservient to men, while I don't excuse him, I can sympathize for him. I am also greatly concerned about his 4 sisters and the other child, what type of help did they get?

roxxboxxy · 3時間前

Touching 19 kids and counting

Guns_and_Dank · 3時間前

There's actually a guy named Jim Bob in the world

stuckinatrance · 3時間前

The real crime is the fact you swept it under the rug and didn't deal with it.

AvatarJack · 2時間前

No, that's an additional crime. But one that is several tiers below molestation on the awfulness hierarchy.

Though this whole debacle has completely ruined their reputation so that's a plus. 21 less hate spewing mouthpieces.

suggested_portion · 2時間前

Not only are they horrible people...they have raised 19 children. :/

techknowAthena · 3時間前

So Christian, yet so focused on getting their tv show back. I wonder how many people they're helping with what they earn from the show? Zero?

mxzrxp · 10時間前

when you breed like scumbags, at least one of them is VERY likely to turn out to be a scumbag!

TheGuyYouKnowThatGuy · 3時間前

Can we all just acknowledge for a moment that as much as everyone is destroying the parents for not choosing a different route, they were put in the unenviable position of finding out that one of their children had done something inappropriate to their other children. I'm sure that was agonizing, and frankly I don't blame them for not going to the police right away and in some ways am surprised they ever went outside the family. Going to the police would be a tough thing for the entire family, likely even the victimized girls who are further traumatized by the investigation.

I can completely understand why a parent would look at this situation and for completely honest, non-cynical reasons, decide that this issue is best handled in-house. May not be the best solution for society, but within the family? I could see that. To the parents, Josh Duggar is their baby boy in need of help. I'm not going to add to the witch hunt on this one.

darksim905 · 2時間前

Can someone provide a TL;DR or a summary of who these people are & why anyone should care?

Pipe_And_A_Crepe · 1時間前

Perfect argument of why it might not be a good idea to have 19 children.

kspmatt · 1時間前

the real crime here is that the show wasn't taking off the air sooner

Twiny · 1時間前

"The girls "didn't really understand" what happened, Jim Bob said at one point."

I don't doubt that a bit, considering the minimal sex education those kids got from their parents.

ibangonkeytars · 1時間前

It almost comes across like the family is using the girls victimization to score sympathy points for covering it up.

Man, if there is a hell.....

anna72600 · 1時間前

"Jim Bob said the family feels targeted by the local police chief, and is considering legal action."

"and is considering legal action" Are you fucking kidding me? The irony is astounding. Completely ignore the victims, your own children, and defend a child molester. What about Josh's kids? Of course child molestation and incest is completely unacceptable, unless your famous, of course.

dustin_pledge · 1時間前

I can't help but wonder if all the people defending this guy would be as staunch in their support if he had molest...ahem sorry- ''inappropriately touched'' his brothers, instead of his sisters?

gamesquid · 1時間前

Jesus Christ these people are fucking deluded

Balmingway · 1時間前

Well, their whole family's reputation was kind of ruined by it.

ba-dum-CHH · 1時間前

I just hate Jim Bob. First of all for exploiting his family on TV, and second for making a PRIVATE family issue public. I don't think he should have gone to the police, but rather sought out counseling. What the hell do you expect Josh to do when he is sexually frustrated like the whole family is?? Now please don't misinterpret, I'm not making excuses for Josh. But I've seen this before in other families where they have insanely strict rules about opposite genders. This isn't the first time this has happened, and it won't be the last. When ANYBODY decides to raise their family with strict rules on dating such as "no holding hands or kissing," there will be sexual frustration, which is now way more likely to be released in a fucked up way. It's biological. I feel bad for Josh. I really do. I feel horrified for the sisters, whose identities were entirely wrapped around "being pure," and now their identities are shattered. And molested. But the parents? I have zero tolerance for them. And it's disgusting how media is sharing this story when you have so many victims embarrassed by the whole thing, just because of "Duggar hate." There's my two cents.

c1g · 1時間前

man at this point all i can muster is a big long

woooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwww

PayMeNoAttention · 53分前

Put these in order from worst to least.

You daughters are raped.
Your son raped your daughters.
You covered your son's rape of your daughters for years.
The whole world found out about your daughters being raped by your son.

OhHiGCHQ · 47分前

Fuck the fucking Duggars on several levels across multiple dimensions of time and space.

LennytheDestroyer · 4時間前

Is the Duggar family sponsored by Gap?

MistaSmiles · 4時間前

You know that saying two wrongs dont make a right? It's bullshit

ganooosh · 4時間前

But he only molested them a little bit, right?

GloriousBees · 2時間前

As a male victim of sexual abuse from a member of my family (specifically, my older brother) if some third party were to dredge up my past in order to get some headlines, I'd be unbelievably angry. My abuse happened 20 years ago while both I and my abuser were minors. I have tried my best to move on and wouldn't want or care for the scrutiny of any non-primary, secondary or even tertiary parties because I have made peace with him as far as any third party should be concerned. My parents-like the Duggars-handled the situation, maybe not as well as they-or the Duggars-could have but ask yourself how well you could handle such a situation if your child was being abused by one of your other children. I'd wager that you wouldn't exactly do too great either.

Yes, I guess I am sympathetic to the abused daughters, the parents and even the older brother who perpetrated the abuse. Like it or not, their situation was put to rest over a decade ago and the only reason it should ever be brought up is if the victims of the abuse feel any need to, not because some tabloid rag wanted to spin a buck. I can't imagine how horrible this entire situation must be for the Duggars, having a bunch of people who essentially want pitchfork-wielding mob justice against a member of their family.

I suppose what I am getting at is Josh Duggar seems to have done more to acknowledge and make up for his transgressions against his sisters than my brother ever did for me and yet I would never wish on my brother-who did far worse to me than what Josh Duggar did to his sisters-the kind of public outrage that's being thrown at the Duggars. The same goes for my parents, they didn't do nearly as much as the Duggar parents did but I don't wish any ill-will against them.

inpailand · 3時間前

They got greedy. They got caught. The hubris it takes to bring that skeleton out of the closet literally into the spotlight and to somehow think you'll get away with it beggars belief.


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