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[–]MagicCoat 27ポイント28ポイント  (12子コメント)

My secondary school GCSE English class had the n-word on the wall because we were studying Of Mice and Men but everyone was mature enough to not bat an eyelid. In my class anyway.

EDIT for more goodness: Bare in mind this is a class full of 16/15 year-olds, 3 years ago, able to stay calm with that word on a piece of paper on the wall, because they knew the context behind it was important to their studies. We also had no qualms with saying the word while reading (though we usually referred to it as "the n-word" when speaking about its use, except in essays). The contrast between Year 11s and university students actually astounds me.

[–]over-my-head[S] 15ポイント16ポイント  (11子コメント)

This is as it should be.

Refusing to acknowledge the existence of racist language and banning its usage in academic contexts leads to burying the past which serves no one.

In the proper historical context describing the mistreatment of blacks by white slave-owners in the U.S., what better typifies the hatred and disregard the slave-owners had for their slaves:

"N-Word"

or

"Nigger"?

Which word provides a better example of how blacks were viewed with prejudice, as property, and as an "other" by racist whites?

"N-Slur"

or

"Nigger"?

EDIT: It's interesting to note how you, /u/MagicCoat still censored yourself, even when describing the use of a slur in the proper historical context.

I bet it was simply automatic for you. That's exactly how language and thought policing works (through the development of self-censorship).

EDIT 2: Here is a very interesting video by Slavoj Žižek on the insidious nature of Politically Correct language, and how it is actually a more dangerous form of coercion than the outward application of force from a totalitarian oppressor in terms of controlling thought.

He argues that PC language and censorship is more insidious and dangerous than oppressive commands from above regarding acceptable language/thought, which would be backed by the threat of force, because it is easier to rebel against such an enemy, since they are so clearly identifiable as a dangerous oppressor.

Meanwhile, the imposition of politically correct language and the banning of certain words teaches the individual to censor themselves, and their feelings, to fall in line with those which are prescribed by a given society or movement.

And therefore, this is much more effective in controlling thought, and is much more difficult to rebel against.

Interestingly enough, this interpretation is fully in line with the views of other critical thinkers/post-structuralists such as Foucaut, who is mandatory reading in gender studies courses (see "The History of Sexuality), and also follows the same line of argument as Noam Chomsky's work in "Manufacturing Consent" and "Necessary Illusions" regarding how the media operates to manage popular thought on political issues.

And these guys are absolutely massively leftist (as am I).

But I think there is something fundamentally wrong with this new form of extreme-leftist based PC censorship.

[–]thetasigma1355 16ポイント17ポイント  (5子コメント)

But I think there is something fundamentally wrong with this new form of extreme-leftist based PC censorship.

There is. And it drives many liberals, like myself, bat-shit crazy. I'm liberal because I believe that the economics and politics make sense. Not because I think we should create a society that isn't allowed to offend any body or a society that should give two-flying fucks about someone's "triggers".

[–]over-my-head[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

I almost wish there was a way we could reclaim the terms "liberal" and "progressive" in order to distinguish ourselves from these PC, SJW-type censorious radicals.

I am NOT going to call myself a "moderate" or "moderate liberal" or "moderate leftist" or something like that.

I am definitely leftist in the vast majority of my opinions.

But this censorship, tone control, and language/thought policing is NOT something I will support.

[–]nfreakoss 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Shit I consider myself a fucking socialist and I can't wait until this entire tumblr social justice fad dies out.

[–]MrCaul [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm left wing. And I live in Scandinavia. That pretty much means I'm a progressive type of communist. I too am so, so tired of the idiotic SJW PC bullshit.

It feels like they've highjacked what it means to be liberal.

[–]thetasigma1355 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I couldn't agree more. I view the whole "SJW-type radical" as the equal and opposite to the Tea Party. The only thing the two movements have in common is that they are both uneducated extremists.

[–]rottenseed [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think you put too much into what your brand is called. Just hold the beliefs you have and not the ones you don't. Who cares what you call yourself.

[–]EasymodeX [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

EDIT: It's interesting to note how you, /u/MagicCoat still censored yourself, even when describing the use of a slur in the proper historical context.

I think that censoring it when simply referring to the word is fine. I think you could claim "thought policing" if the word were censored in its proper historical context.

For a reference to it, there's no reason not to censor. In this case you're taking your pulpit too far.

[–]MagicCoat [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah I only did that there because I didn't feel it was necessary to say it.

[–]over-my-head[S] [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

/u/MagicCoat censored the word "nigger" in a post specifically referring to the actual fully-spelt-out word being posted in his English classroom while his class was studying a book from 1937 in which that particular racial slur would have been used, as an example of how his classmates were mature enough to handle exposure to that particular word, given an understanding of the historical context of the novel.

I'm not reaching here. The actual slur itself is directly relevant. Its censorship - even when used in a historical context - is largely the point of his entire comment, and of this entire thread.

[–]MagicCoat [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You do have a great point there. I suppose it was just a subconcious action.

[–]EasymodeX [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

/u/MagicCoat censored the word "nigger" in a post specifically referring to the

Yes, that's the point. There's no particular need to spell it out when referring to it. It should be spelled out when demonstrating its actual use (e.g. the word should be spelled out when it is used). When it is referred to I feel it's entirely at the discretion of the user and you're reaching too far when claiming it as an example of thought policing.