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Local "Furries" Say They Are Misunderstood (startribune.com)

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[–]KichigaiSouth 'burbs 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

Furries tend to use that visual attention to do some good. The local chapter, which was recently granted nonprofit status, volunteers each year at the Como Zoo Boo, marches in the Winter Carnival parade and helps out at animal shelters to find adoptive families. Hibbard even starred, as his wolf, in a closed-circuit television show broadcast at St. Paul Children’s Hospital.

Kind of hard to hate people like that.

[–]accipitradea 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

Man, if only you'd posted this yesterday. I missed it, and it was a question at Fair State trivia last night.

[–]Cor-cor 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Never again will we think an answer too ridiculous to write down!

[–]thejoefish 37ポイント38ポイント  (10子コメント)

I used to knock on furries because honestly they are an easy target. I don't anymore because there's actual hate for them.

That I don't get. Who would actually attack a group of furries? They might be a little weird, but there's something weird about all of us.

[–]itsamamaluigi 22ポイント23ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yeah they're weird but so are the guys in those gay pride parades wearing their outrageous costumes. As long as they're not hurting anyone who cares. I think the Twin Cities is a very tolerant place... we might stare but hopefully no one gives them any actual trouble.

[–]KichigaiSouth 'burbs 19ポイント20ポイント  (3子コメント)

we might stare

No matter how tolerant we are I think anyone playing frisbee in 70ºF+ weather in a full fursuit is going to get a lot of stares if only in bewilderment as to how someone can tolerate being so stiflingly hot. Like the kids who run around in 0ºF snow storms wearing just a sweatshirt.

[–]Mitchmark94 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah seriously! I usually put on a pair of socks if it reaches 0 degrees.

[–]KichigaiSouth 'burbs 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I usually put on something that doesn't absorb all the snow like a sponge. Wet sweatshirts are bad sweatshirts.

[–]no_turn_unstonedDowntown East -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

TIPS BOWLING HAT

[–]theycallmeMrPickles 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed, who cares what happens behind closed doors between consenting adults. Different strokes, different folks.

[–]KichigaiSouth 'burbs 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who would actually attack a group of furries?

Acceptance of LGBT folk is on the rise, so people who want to violently lash out, and used to target the LGBT community, are going to find a new target, one that society is less approving of. Attacks on gay people were more prevalent, but then that became socially unacceptable, so they moved on to transgender people, and now that's becoming unacceptable, so now they're moving on to the next group they can find.

As long as there is a portion of society that feels that violence is an appropriate way to behave or to solve problems they'll continue to find targets.

[–]HAL9000000 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

What do you mean "there's actual hate for them?" I mean, are they being physically attacked? Are there hate groups set up for them?

Anyway, to me I think it's useful for a "tolerant" person to say "yes, this is weird, but that's OK." There are ignorant people out there who respond to weird things with hate, derision, even violence. A tolerant person can educate those people by saying "hey, it's weird, but why do you care?"

I guess the problem that comes in is you have these social conservatives who point to shit like this as an indicator of what they see as the decline of civilization -- the decline of morality. And then when you have tolerant people (social liberals) saying it's OK, then it becomes part of this political cause where the social conservatives say that the social liberals are bringing us down as a society. Those politicians hope there's enough people out there who will be grossed out by furries and other "weird" things and hold that against liberal-minded people.

[–]thejoefish 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-19-hospitalized-thousands-evacuated-in-gas-leak-at-rosemont-hotel-20141207-story.html

They discussed it briefly in the article, but here is a more detailed account of it.

[–]JohnMaddening 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I might be wrong, but I was under the impression that they never figured out who did it, and therefore did not know the true motive.

[–]TalkingRaccoon 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

My friend and roommate are in that group photo lol

The fandom has seen a HUGE boom in people in the past 10 years. It'd be interesting to know the specifics of why. But its probably just the internet making it easier to see things, and people go "there's other people like me!" or "that seems cool" or "that's hot unzips" which is really how the fandom started in the first place.

[–]Kelossi 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Heh who's your roommate? I'm part of RRVF (Red River Valley Furs) up in Fargo but I know a lot of people down there!

[–]Farnaby 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wait are you an actual raccoon or a furry raccoon or ....

[–]MollyConnollyxx 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

The weirdest part of this whole thing is how casually that couple dressed for their wedding. Not that it's wrong, I've just never seen it before.

[–]KichigaiSouth 'burbs 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Reminds me of the medieval-themed wedding I was a part of. Pity it didn't last (apparently the husband has some rather awful skelletons in his closet) but I ended up with a tunic, buying some nice pants, using a sword in the ceremony, drinking some good microbrews, and hearing a friend play an old Brittany Spears song on a piano. Hell of an experience. I still have the tunic somewhere.

[–]catiefsmKeeper of the Giant Bubbles 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can I be retroactively invited to this wedding? Because it sounds amazing.

[–]MrsTiggyWiggy 4ポイント5ポイント  (18子コメント)

Honestly, I don't get the furrie-hate. If people like wearing tails, so frigging what.

[–]shekpvar 5ポイント6ポイント  (16子コメント)

It's the association of those costumes with children and the fact that (at least some) furries do adult things in those costumes.

EDIT: RTFA, I see:

Furries say it’s about being social — meeting people with similar interests and helping brighten other people’s days. They recoil at the idea, put forth on a 2003 episode of “CSI,” that it is a sexual fetish.

Riiiiiiight. CSI started it. It's a conspiracy.

EDIT2: Here comes the furry brigade.

[–]MrsTiggyWiggy 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

sighs It always comes back to the fact that some adults don't like how other adults do sex.

I wish people who thought that way would do a little more thinking. Some adults also like to dress up as pirates and chase each other around the bedroom. Some eat ice cream off of each other. Some call each other "baby". That has nothing to do with children.

[–]obsidianop 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think you've found the seed of what makes people uncomfortable but anyone who gives it a moment's consideration should realize there's no need to hate them.

[–]DeviatedNorm 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

Wait, why is that a justification for the hate tho? Who the heck cares what someone's wearing while they're getting busy with consenting adults?

The percentage of furries who use their suits for yiffing is pretty tiny, that's why most recoil at the idea. Some folks use cosplay sexually too -- but again, so what?

[–]Kelossi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, we don't like that people use the sexual costumes to interact with children either. We have a custom Cards Against Humanity card referencing this among my little group. It is repulsive. But that's like hating men because some are abusers. Don't lump us all in to one group.

[–]ZKXX 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sure you don't.

[–]tankfox 2ポイント3ポイント  (10子コメント)

The article is about fursuiters, not 'furries'.

A furry is someone who enjoys anthromorpmoric animals like sonic the hedgehog and the Robin Hood from the animated disney version.

Fursuiters dress up like these characters.

As a group the fursuiter circle is much smaller than the furry circle.

As an analogy, it's like an article saying that these are anime fans and going on to talk about dressing up as anime characters as if that was the only way to enjoy anime. Anyone who enjoys anime knows that these are cosplayers, and enjoying anime does not in any way imply that you typically dress up as anime characters.

Here is a handy venn diagram for reference

[–]Aram_Fingal 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't consider cosplay to be exclusive to anime, thus I think that diagram is inaccurate.

[–]tankfox -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I will warrant that saying all cosplayers relate to anime is just as inaccurate as expediently referring to fursuiters as 'furries'. Feel free to make a better, more accurate diagram and post.

[–]malnourish 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

There are no furry/anime fans?

[–]tankfox -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I left that out because I was too lazy to try to define that part of it and it doesn't have any relevance to what I was trying to say.

However, wikifur has an interesting list of animes with furry characters in them!

[–]ZKXX 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh my god.

[–]Kelossi 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Uhh, I don't think we need to be so divisive? Fursuiters are a lot more striking to photograph, but we're all in this together. For different reasons, maybe, but there's no reason to put suiters in a separate category.

[–]tankfox 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

To quote /u/TheLotion; I've never heard the term fursuiter until now but I have heard and used the word furries to describe that community.

The word 'furry' has been co-opted to singularly describe these perfectly nice dudes who invest many thousands of dollars and lots of time and effort into a costume and then go put it on display. I don't do that. The vast majority of actual 'furries' don't ever do that.

Think about it this way; what if this was the only way football was ever shown by the media, people like him, all painted up, shirtless on a freezing day. They never show the game, they never show the players, they just show this dude screaming and smashing beer cans on his forehead. This is football!

How do you talk to your friends about football? The more casually acquainted would never even know there was a game attached to it and would be surprised when you weren't talking about how you painted your face and chest and went out screaming at nothing in the cold.

[–]TheLotion 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'd probably guess they also enjoy anthromorpmoric animals which does make them furries.

Also to people outside of these communities, the common term for what you call fursuiters is 'furries'. I've never heard the term fursuiter until now but I have heard and used the word furries to describe that community.

[–]tankfox 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd probably guess they also enjoy anthromorpmoric animals which does make them furries.

Sure, they're also furries, but the article doesn't even discuss any of that. They're not talking about any of the fantastic artists or conventions or culture that goes into the fandom if it doesn't directly involve putting on a costume and running around in public in it, when really that's like 10% of the fandom's population tops.

the common term for what you call fursuiters is 'furries'

This is the direct result of misrepresentation by lazy journalism, and it means I need to pick a different name for what I enjoy to avoid implying that I dance around in a big fuzzy suit.

[–]VelcroKing -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shut up, furry.

[–]non_consensual 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, Minnesota. Look what you're becoming.

When we have hipsters defending furries you know we're fucked.