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[–]silvertongue35 70ポイント71ポイント  (14子コメント)

The best part of the red pill is purging yourself of the Disney-ified version of what love is. I mean, the whole, you find that woman in high school, go to college, marry, and have the house with the picket fence and 2 kids. It's a fairy tale and complete bullshit.

Women are mercenaries and we have this whole thing where men are raised as you mentioned, where their mother's love gives them this false idea of what love out in the real world will be like. Little do they know that it's only an illusion which shatters as soon as they become a man and start getting their heart broken.

But it's funny, what comes around does come around. A man who has swallowed the red pill will realize what's going on, increase his SMV, get jacked, make more money, and start realizing he has more options.

Those same women who kept him in the friend zone or broke his heart? Well, shit, that wall is coming up real fast for them. Meanwhile the "low SMV male" they remember is dead, and from the ashes rises a high SMV male that dominates everything around him.

[–]Polishrifle 57ポイント58ポイント  (9子コメント)

It's been posted time and time again, but don't count on the wall holding a lot of those girls back. There are many thirsty beta a foot and they will easily wife up yesterday's trash.

The more I think about it, the less likely I am to get married.

[–]silvertongue35 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

Look at the flip side of it, those are the women you are no longer interested in, thus they no longer matter.

[–]Polishrifle 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. This post is more for the new guys that view this as some sort of karmic justice. It does not exist and you shouldn't wish ill on others to begin with.

[–]moosevice_dot_com 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

True. I had a drink with my ex who turned me to TRP and seeing her aging ass turned me off. 3 years ago I was lusting over her but not today. The Wall is real and it does change the dynamics. The best advice I got was from a strip club bouncer "Don't fall in love guys".

[–]alecesne 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

But this is also a darwinian game. You marry because, biologically, your goal is not personal gratification, but the production of offspring who will be successful. For me, getting married is what made me realize that the above essay is true, that I had been a Beta through college and law school, and that right when I stood to make 6 figures, my then girlfriend say "oh, I better lock this in" and began pushing for commitment. It took a year of her termpertantrums and shit tests for me to realize that (a) I wasn't masculine enough, (b) my father was not a good role model for self assertion and masculinity, (c) my wife loved me in a different way than I loved her, and that what I wanted she would not provide unless I made her provide it, and (d) marriage is about producing an environment in which you can successfully raise children with good values. If children aren't on your radar, don't marry, it will only increase your liabilities. If you have found a woman who you're willing to deal with for 20 years, and want to make an irreversible commitment to (1/2 of another human being's life!) only then should you say "yes, I'll take this deal, whereby I sacrifice sexual diversity for sexual security".

I'm probably going to take a lot of shit for posting a semi-pro marriage message in RP, but I'm willing to bet the majority of betas out there had beta fathers and grew up believing that there was no alternative. Well, I believe there is, and that we need to demonstrate how to live well!

[–]damntpill 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Except marriage does not provide sexual security.

[–]alecesne 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Marriage does not guarantee sexual security, but it reduces the up front costs on any given day of getting some. There will always be some women who cheat, and in such cases, you've got a problem. Some women are practically (even if not inherently) loyal, but the same is true of men.

[–]Day_man2020 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Marriage is the female checkmate, what does spending countless thousands on HER wedding day do to provide a stable environment for kids? Also how is having kids not just a vanity project, you don't need kids to labor on the farm like back in the day lots of smart people seem to be saying we've got an over population problem. I get the "but who will carry on the genes" argument from my Dad but the way I see it I didn't ask to be born into this crazy world so I sure as shit don't owe anyone anything, this is my life and I get to live it any way I choose.

The more I understand female nature from study and practical observation the less I care to be involved with them. I guess I'm kind of a mgtow, I date but with zero fuck given, some chicks can be fun but eventually they start trying to "reel you in" at which point my response is "have fun with that". The manipulated man really opened my eyes, it made me realize that dealing with women is like a game of chess. Except that the game is rigged against us. What men want is pretty simple, feed me, fuck me, and make me feel you care, women will sacrifice pieces, giving you a great blow job in the car, worship your dick, even do nice things and treat you like a real person. These moves are not unlike sacrificing pieces in chess to get your opponent into a position where you can make a strong play for their King. Of course we know that most men are really dumb when it comes to women so we fall for these plays hook line and sinker. We focus on her King (pussy and sexual good times) at the expense of missing her setting us up for her own plays. Men your King is your commitment, hence marriage being the female checkmate. Once you put that ring on her finger she knows you can't just dip without her squeezing you for everything you've got.

I think feminism is actually a bad strategy because it's making men walk away from the table. It's like playing chess with a petulant child who plays super aggressively and flips the board when you shut down their foolish early offensive, feminism is handicapping women by keeping them from playing a more strategic long game like women in days gone by did. I think the anti-feminist women have picked up on this and they are trying to play the longer game by agreeing with the growing male resentment twords feminism to get us in a vulnerable position for their own endgame. Just remember this, if culture shifts away from obnoxiously loud feminist screeching about patriarchy and female entitlement doesn't mean women aren't sizing up men any less opportunistically. The game is still afoot.

[–]Endorsed ContributorDoxasticPoo 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is so important.

Because the reality is not every "low SMV male" will rise from the ashes... most will remain there. It's mathematically impossible for every male to be "high status". So there must be some men at the bottom, hungry... and a hungry man is a desperate man.

The only option for these men is to either swallow their pride, go beta and live a shit life. Or MGTOW it up, let the post-wall woman be a single mom. And enjoy his life alone.

It sounds bad, but that's only because we're programmed to think we're losers for not getting a girl.

Not every guy gets the girl. And that's ok. I'd rather be pursuing my passions, achieving my goals, building my life, working on myself in loneliness than be some woman's little-bitch companion.

Fuck that.

[–]Day_man2020 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup mgtow I think is the logical conclusion, doesn't mean you can't date but if you refer to my other chess analogy heavy response to the previous comment it's kind of like playing chess without your King on the board or with a sky hook to rescue that bastard in the nick of time, if I feel the commitment, control noose tightening I just GTFO and don't look back. I can't be bothered with shit tests getting ratcheted up the second it starts to feel like work I walk.

[–]foldpak111 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's even better when you're 5'6" and you become a dominator. I'm a successful real estate agent that pulled in 224k last year, can back squat 455#, and dress to impress. It's hilarious to see men rationalize why a guy that is half their size is better than them.

[–]Movonnow 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I mean, the whole, you find that woman in high school, go to college, marry, and have the house with the picket fence and 2 kids. It's a fairy tale and complete bullshit.

Who would want that anyway?

[–]silvertongue35 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Betas apparently do, and never leave that friend zone or stop being an orbiter.

The dream.

[–]jeanclaudevanman 47ポイント48ポイント  (16子コメント)

Great post. Always a nice refresher: Men > Women > Children > Puppies* (> = love).

As men, we are the source of all love. It is our duty to give it freely without expectation or return. Love is a feeling reserved for those who receive it. When a woman tells you she loves you, what she is conveying are feelings of security and comfort.

*Get a dog if you want unconditional love.

[–]Meninismx 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

For women: 'I love you' = 'I need you' I must be more sceptical than most, because I find that my dog would happily love the shit out of whoever gives her food and walks her - not very unconditional.

[–]Movonnow 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

It is our duty to give it freely without expectation or return

Fuck what this society thinks what is my duty and what's not.

[–]jeanclaudevanman 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

This has nothing to do with 'this' society. If you choose to one day enter a LTR/marriage 2.0 or move beyond plating, this will become true for you as well. The duty to give love freely and without expectation stems from man's place in a relationship.

Believe it or not, having a good/great women in your life requires lots of investment and effort on your part. You will never get out what you put in. If you align yourself with the information provided here, you will understand how to more aptly deal with matters of love in life.

[–]alecesne 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Instructions unclear, bought puppy which ate favorite cap.

[–]jeanclaudevanman 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

He did you a favor. Nobody should ever own a White Sox cap.

[–]mtndewlover 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So what stands in the same relation to men as man stand to women? I like to think it's the world of abstract ideas, concepts, beauty, and the like. Why are there so few female composers of note? Because music is the most abstract of the creative disciplines and they aren't naturally as good as abstraction we are. It's a shit deal for women, but exceedingly rare is the woman who has access to, or can be nourished by the creative world in that way. Point being, I think it's not entirely correct to look at the world and conclude that nothing really loves you. I might be playing fast and loose with the idea of love, but we can be nourished emotionally, physically and spiritually ways that don't necessarily involve other people. This isn't as easily accessible to women as it is to men, at least in my experience. A silver lining.

[–]benzamtrp 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

I am extremely interested by your thesis that boys loved by their mom grow into men expecting unconditional love from women while those who weren't loved aren't expecting this.

I was loved (still am) by my mom and I definitely had the expectation that my girl would unconditionally love me, particularly that she would still be there for me during harsh times. And after all, marriage vows on TV and in your family confirm that you can expect that right? you know "in tears and in laughter, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish." The first time a GF broke up with me after 2y together because she couldn't do long-distance, I just didn't understand it: I had done nothing wrong, I hadn't changed, I still loved her just as much as when we were living in the same place. Same for all following breakups. Actually, up until I was 27 I was dumbfounded to see friends of mine breaking up after years together. And i didn't understand it until I found TRP a few months ago and it finally made sense.

It's so interesting to see guys here who weren't loved by their mom describing their experience. I had no idea you could grow up not expecting women's faithfulness, support, self-sacrifice for their man.. Keep sharing those stories guys.

[–]Cant_Tell_Me_Nothin 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll give you some of my insight. I grew up being the least favored out of me and my brother. The love my mother has always showed me has been highly conditional. On the other hand, my brother grew up being some kind of golden boy and my mother's love towards him was more unconditional, most likely because he was the first born.

I believe there are both pros and cons to being raised either way. When it came to my brother, being raised with unconditional love made him grow with some form of entitlement. He is kind of like a momma's boy. But this entitlement can be a good thing. Women love guys who feel entitled to their love. Women love guys who love themselves a little too much. And this mentality can help you in other areas of life too. But then again this same overconfidence is the same thing that leads you to believe that even your girl will love you unconditionally, which my brother has had to learn otherwise.

In my situation, the lack of conditional love made me realize early on that when it comes to women, I have to perform. They will only love me when my performance is good enough. This is why I learned to be more charming, to be more masculine and tough, to optimize my looks. This had helped me a lot when it came to seduction. The bad part of realizing this is that I grew up feeling like my inherent worth as a man was not enough. This can be very dehumanizing and unhealthy if you the feeling is too strong.

Nowadays I have a healthier view of myself but I try to balance out and incorporate the productive aspects of the entitled and overconfident mentality that my brother grew up with, with my own ability to perform.

[–]1oldredder 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

hah, that damn Freud.

I grew up with my mother just barely caring enough to keep me surviving but with no joy or compassion whatsoever. Nothing to trust ever.

I have no memories whatsoever of women anywhere being anything but liars, users and destroyers. Every last one. For me to risk that any woman in my life might not be this was a huge step for me and after trying it enough times I am done with that experiment and I will remain single forever. I don't trust any woman in my life: I have stability, money and direction. A woman can only fuck that up. She has every intention of fucking it up.

Random anonymous fucking is all that's allowed. Never is a woman allowed to sleep in my bed, to even know where I live. Never. period.

[–]Soriq 29ポイント30ポイント  (15子コメント)

10/10 Article. Especially your insights on how the experience of maternal love affects our relationships with women.

I found this line interesting

The more man sacrifices for a woman, the more likely he is to fall in love with his investment.

Reminds me of the Ben Franklin quote about getting people to do things for you. This indirectly implies that being beta to your woman is a vicious cycle that compounds how much more beta you become. I'm inclined to agree

[–]let_terror_reign 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fits right in with the nice guy mentality where we ignore diminishing return on investment by seeing only sunken cost.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (8子コメント)

10/10 Article. Especially your insights on how the experience of maternal love affects our relationships with women.

If you're interested in this, you'll like what Freud has to say about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna%E2%80%93whore_complex

[–]MSCHVSVCTRY 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yeah, if you read the Art of Seduction you'll read about the girl who probably inspired his views. That girl is a piece of work.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Had the book for awhile. Haven't finished it. Looking forward to this. Thanks for the heads up.

[–]MSCHVSVCTRY 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

All I have to say is.. he did not believe in bros before hos.

[–]theultmatecad 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Great article. You do fine work sir.

You made me ponder the man who grew up with a shitty mother. Is he a natural "asshole"?

I am certain that my mother's "kindness" indocrtinated me into TBP. This sub saved my life, men just like you in fact.

[–]asdfghjkltyu 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

Reminds me of the Ben Franklin quote about getting people to do things for you. This indirectly implies that being beta to your woman is a vicious cycle that compounds how much more beta you become. I'm inclined to agree

I've found most guys aren't that afraid of losing women, they're more afraid of wasting their time with them. They don't want to spend endless cash on someone only for them to leave in a year, so yeah I do think return on investment is a good way to phrase it.

Because abundance mentality or not, women are expensive, in both money and time. Why should I waste my time on them if they could just leave next month?

Due to the whole "Women love high value men" their capacity to love you is directly linked to who you are at that given time, meaning if you lax, you can say goodbye.

[–]alpha_buffalo 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Budgeting for investments to be made in women is one of the most arduous tasks because of the unknown, immeasurable risk profile that women possess. No other asset besides mining in 3rd world countries can have the high probability of sunken costs (complete-write off) as investing in women. The first vacation you take with a lady having saved up could be the most opportune time in her eyes to call it quits with you.

[–]asdfghjkltyu 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very true. Which is why its best to do two things

1) keep spending on women down. I don't care if this means the relationship ends quickly, I'm not buying her gifts or paying when we go out to dinner.

2) don't view relationships as long term. If you think you're spending for future rewards you're going to have a bad time.

[–]alecesne 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

A couple of years or so ago, I got a FB message out of the blue from a girl in knew studying abroad in China like 6 years before. She was going to be in California, and wanted to know if I'd take her from LA to Vegas when my law firm summer was over. I asked what brings you to the states? Que evasive answers. Turns out she had convinced an older guy in Hong Kong to take her on a trip, and though it would be a great time to split after getting the plane tickets and a free 2 weeks in the U.S.

He figures it out, drops her, and cancels the return ticket. boom.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hahahaha so the bitch was going to manipulate/fuck you for a ticket home? Hahaha. I hope she got stranded.

[–]1REDPILLRECKONING 29ポイント30ポイント  (14子コメント)

I realized this when I started to get good with Dread Game. The distinction between mothers love and the psychotic neediness of a young woman desperate to keep an alpha in her life like a drop of water in a vast desert is unnerving.

One is sacrificial, as mentioned in the post above. The other is based on need, which is ironic considering how entitled and bratty women are these days. With this being said, I have met women who are self sustained (not because their dads give them money) and thus are capable of a different type of affection. An affection that is based in giving a fuck for others instead of just being some sort of parasite.

This is the essence of a leveled up redpill woman, someone who indiscriminately warms everything around her, the motherly glow if you will. You never need anything from a woman like this, and she never needs anything from you, but simply being in her presence makes everything so much goddamn better.

So imo, love is indeed possible, it's just that it is rare, and takes an extraordinary woman to wield it in a rapidly decaying society. Do not lose faith brothers, for all will be well.

[–]johnnywahd 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

"So imo, love is indeed possible, it's just that it is rare, and takes an extraordinary woman (and extraordinary effort to receive and maintain) to wield it in a rapidly decaying society."

I added the parenthesis part as I feel it applies.

[–]brkd 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do you find conventional Red Pill protocols an effective means of establishing and maintaining a relationship with such women? A woman has little incentive to supplicate herself to another captain when she is successfully running her own ship, for example.

[–]1REDPILLRECKONING 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Interestingly enough, yes. I originally learned most of what I know form RSD, and while their more hollistic tenants are on point, way too much of their material is geared towards just getting freaks out of the house and interacting with women. What is infinitely more effective on almost all women is a combination of dread management, mild to moderate social proof (game purists are convulsing right now), and a bit of image modification if you're very clearly coming from a place of lacking compared to her.

All three are kinda nuanced concepts, but never fear, I'm putting up the second part of my game series in a week or so (on effectively utilizing dread). I already did one very large one on social proof and how effective it can be - "women love playing the who is cooler game".

[–]Dangerestdrag 4ポイント5ポイント  (9子コメント)

As someone who doesn't really prescribe to redpill that opinion is a breath of fresh air, most of this stuff reads like doom and gloom to me but I like this rather optimistic opinion. I know I definitely have beta tendencies and want to change them but I don't want to be a macho hulk either. I know I will still have to change, but I appreciate the sentiment that not all women are like this and that maybe I might find something one day. The standard red pill opinion is so life draining to me, it feels hollow.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan[S] 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're in the depression phase. You'll feel less depressed if you start lifting some weights. Don't put it off.

Looking to leech off other's optimism because you can't handle reality means you are weak. I know it's tough, but you have to learn to stand on your own two feet if you ever want to be a man who is worth a fuck. Accept shit for what it is. It just is. You can't change it. And now you know that, you know you do yourself a disservice hiding in delusions. Especially when those delusions betray you.

Good luck on your journey. It's not all doom and gloom. Eventually you'll reach the acceptance phase. Could take time, but just work on yourself and have fun whilst you take in the truths. They sting less like that.

Brutal truth, but funny so great for a depressed guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hAmCjqVkFg&list=PLnhyzKCjt9ubnwI1tdTR0wYGoELYxHNfh

[–]1REDPILLRECKONING 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

I completely understand where you are coming from and I'm glad you saw the inherent optimism in my post. Sometimes it's very easy to feel like the world is a very unfair place, and redpill teachings really don't pull any punches. But if you continue on the path, you'll find that in a greater context there is a very very empowering message that redpill can imbue you with. We are indeed the makers and shapers of reality, and once you start to see that life is only as limited as you let it be, you will have alot more fun. We are indeed the limitless ones.

P.S. That dynamic between seeming outwardly gloomy but intrinsically positive is rather telling of our cause don't you think?

P.S.S I ended my last message cryptically with a deeply nerdy but HOPEFUL reference. Bonus points if you find it.

[–]freethinker34 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Knowing red pill is knowing reality and reality can be cruel. Men have never truly understood women, and just operated on instinct, until now. Red Pill is a logical, truthful understanding of female evolutionary sexual psychology based on science.

We know that in nature, one animal devours another animal in order to sustain itself. Thus, the food chain continues. This seems pretty grim, but its what you make of it. We as humans have the power to raise animals humanely, let them live well for some time, then kill them humanely for our benefit.

Similarly, we can do the same by understanding how women's love works. Knowing that a womans love for a man is not unconditional is empowering, just like knowing about the cycle of life.

[–]alecesne 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Men have never truly understood women, and just operated on instinct, until now.

I don't know about that. When you read historical authors discussing the relationship between the sexes, most societies were RP as fuck for most of written history. Only in the late 20th century have values shifted so dramatically.

This may sound strange, but a lot of it comes from birth control and abortion freeing women from the liabilities of promiscuity. In the past, promiscuous women were at risk of terrible burdens that would subject their children (the object of their infinite love) to social risk as well. We've gradually whittled away at the downside of relationship failure for women in Western society without reducing the responsibilities for men for initiating and maintaining relationships and households at personal and financial cost. The dissolution of traditional values and institutions is the natural result of two generations of an imbalanced social contract.

We're not here to judge society or the social contract (really none of us can do so objectively), but encourage rational thought on how to get the most out of our lives given the realities we encounter.

That said, freethinker is absolutely right, in that our understanding of evolutionary psychology is better now than it has ever been, and that our tools improve as we hone them-

[–]Endorsed ContributorDoxasticPoo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We are indeed the makers and shapers of how we experience reality

FTFY. You can't turn water into wine.

[–]Endorsed ContributorDoxasticPoo 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hahaha... this reads like a millionaire giving an inspirational speech to the poor.

Dude, I'm sorry. I know it sucks. But it's the reality. You're depressed because you're not accepting reality. Yet you know it's true. You see it everywhere. But you don't want it to be truth. However, wanting reality to be a certain way won't make it that way. You can't change the outside world, only the way you feel about it.

The upside is, once you accept reality you can find ways to be happy about it. Yes, you'll never get that sweet, caring love for You. But that doesn't mean you won't have a happy relationship. In fact, it'll be much better because you and your SO will actually be seeing each other as you both are. You won't be projecting a fantasy on each other.

Keep going. It gets better. You just have to find your path. Becoming a man isn't about being some "macho" dick. It's about being able to provide so much that not only can you provide for yourself but you can provide for others. That includes "love". Being a man means you provide enough "love" for yourself that not only are you more than satisfied, there's extra left over for everyone else in your life.

[–]Dangerestdrag 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I won't lie I am pretty emotionally stunted, my mom was very emotionally shut off and was very abusive to my father which caused my father's porn addiction to drive him to solicit a minor and get put in prison for 15 years. So I can't love either of them and because of distance and conflict I am not close with any of my relatives. I've never loved anyone and never really learned to love myself so this journey is going to be hard but I guess it is what I have to do, it's that or death lol

[–]Endorsed ContributorDoxasticPoo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We'll be here if you need us

[–]freethinker34 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I remember back when I was a child. I thought I loved my cat more than anything in the world. And I did, a child is incapable of reciprocating parental love equally. My dad loved my mom, my mom loved me, and I loved my kitty.

But as I grew older, I became more and more aware of how selfless and unconditional my moms love was for me. She believed in me through thick and thin, even after my dad had given up on me in hard times. As I matured into a man I realize that I admired, respected, and loved my mother and that even though I couldn't reciprocate as much love as she had for me, I loved her more than anything else in my life.

Now, as I search for a mate and the mother of my future children, I am armed with not only the love of my family, but the knowledge of the red pill. These truths don't make me angry, just like knowing that life ends in death doesn't make me angry. I have faith that one day I will find a woman who will love my children as much as my mother loves me, and that makes me a happy man.

[–]peoplearejustpeople9 32ポイント33ポイント  (0子コメント)

When your father dies, you grieve for the respect you had for him.

When your mother dies, you grieve because no one will ever love you again.

[–]LeonRossi 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

The epitome of a woman’s love is infatuation. To define it, this is a lust for your power and an obsession with how your character makes her feel, secondary to your power. It is put crudely: opportunism and emotional self-appeasement alchemised with lust.

This is a very accurate description of how a woman loves. It's founded on the idea that you are better than her, which generates respect, admiration and ultimately infatuation. It is fair to say that they are in love with the characteristics and not the character.

It is saddening that any man is raised to believe otherwise and I feel for the fellow man who hopes and believes with all his heart that she loves him in the same way that he loves her. It might have been easier if there was someone to blame for their nature, but there is not. We can not negotiate with nature or try to reason with it, because nature does not negotiate anything. Just as you can not negotiate attraction, you can not negotiate how humans love. Nature is amoral and even the cold truths you must accept if you truly wish to swallow the red pill.

Women who become too self-aware can end up hating themselves because they cannot overcome their animal elements. They can’t make themselves love you in the way you want them to, even if they tried to. To do so would ravage them with immeasurable misery.

This too is incredibly accurate. I must compliment your observational skills. I have been with such women and it drives them over the edge. They become aware of women's nature, and thus also their own, and start to hate their own traits. They struggle with it and sometimes try to hamster that they are "not like that", but end up realizing they are after all. Some of them even start to wish that they were men.

My sincerest compliments for the article. It's very on point in all respects.

[–]Dzuari 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

I came from a mother who initially had maternal love for me till I was about 7-8 then she turned into the text book narcissist with the laundry list of shit that comes with it(technically it wasn't even maternal love, it was utilitarian love).

I didn't even hit the anger phase when I found TRP, I was just kinda like, "Oh that's neat. This is like finally seeing the strings attached to the puppet."

Edit: I was actually astonished to find so many men so hurt by finally seeing the big picture of women nature and how they could possible be so blind to it. Now, it makes a lot of sense, their moms where probably better than mine... fuckers...

[–]Jaques_Fury 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Good shit as always. It's good to see someone going in-depth over this core TRP concept. Although I can understand why someone in Anger Phase might think that Women don't love at all, your points here disprove that sentiment quite nicely.

Women simply love differently than Men do, and in a different direction than BP would leave people to believe. And that's okay.

In terms of Red Pill Theory, however, I think more can be said regarding this excerpt from the article:

Many men would struggle with the idea of family upon discovering the whole host of red pill truths that are to be found. Ignorance truly is bliss, and as such the knowledge on this blog is as much powerful as it is dangerous.

Ignorance was bliss. The Red Pill exists because ignorance stopped being bliss for men. Even the most trained, loyal, and subdued men found themselves victims of Hypergamy and the FI. When blind obedience was punished, even the most indoctrinated started asking questions.

I agree that Red Pill knowledge is dangerous. But as an addendum, I'll contend that lacking such knowledge has since become the more dangerous option. And that's why we're growing.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't think we'll ever live in a society that is comfortable sharing this truth. I can only imagine in ages past that this realization hit far too many men, far too late. Who is willing to come out and outright state that a man will never be loved as much as his mother loved him?

It does seem like a cruel joke that every man has to discover it for himself. Perhaps with the rise of places like TRP it may one day be a thing of the past.

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can only imagine in ages past that this realization hit far too many men, far too late.

Really? I think that it's the other way around. With our feminine primary conditioning I am convinced that men were taught TRP as common sense in the past. Oedipus is an old story. Men were taught about the nature of women in the bible too because obviously it was necessary to manage your wife in the context of a successful marriage.

[–]el_nikon 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Men who had mothers that never endowed them with the maternal bond find it easier to swallow the red pill and understand female behaviour as adults. It is a recurring observation of mine that men deprived of maternal love are better adapted for dealing with women as mates in adulthood. The man who grew up as a neglected boy never foolishly believed that a girlfriend would love him as his mother would, he believed she would love him exactly as his mother did; with extreme conditionality.

I particularly appreciate this insight. Its very clever and deserves some more detail. One of these is the child with the N-mother who is made aware of the idealized version of mother and desperately clings to metaphysical depictions of it from media.

I met a (young) guy who had a particularly odious N-mother. Instead of coming to this realisation, he clung to to the hope that a girlfriend would give him the idealized version he was missing from his mother.

I hope that, when his idealization fails to meet reality, it doesn't sting him too bad.

Great article.

[–]Endorsed ContributorDoxasticPoo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I grew up with a mom who didn't want me, or my siblings...

I often think it was harder for me to swallow just because I wanted the love so badly...

But then again, you can't miss what you never had.

[–]semondemon24 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are brilliant. So well written. Such great insight and simplification of a complicated situation we all live with. My favorite part about you, man, is that you don't tell people what to do. You give people the information and trust mankind's own individual compass to make a decision. For whatever reason, I believe the net outcome will be positive. There will be less net suffering from both men and women due to your writing.

[–]semondemon24 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

TRP: Waking up one man at a time. This is bigger than you all think. This is mankind's self-awareness rising.

[–]midnightbean 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

This was really great.

One point that threw me off was "woman expects man to love her more than she loves him". It is then wanted/expected but is not quantifiable or ever satisfied in her mind? It seems that women who have had the greatest love for a man do so in the context of craving what she isn't getting enough of; but if it were nothing the desire would cease? And women who seem content have deceived themselves for convenience sake?

Then I wonder what lust refers too. It is not appearance so much as what your appearance leads her to believe. A strong man is a dominant or assertive man, and a woman will lust for the idea more than your nice face. I have very blonde hair and i'm usually put into the category of being too innocent to handle a girl in bed or a player. It could be pure coincidence but the only dark haired women i've been with were ones where I had been extremely assertive and they commented on it as being their reasoning for compliance.

Would I be right in saying that most of the attraction or love a woman has for a man is condensed down to how much of a dominant/alpha man he can be for her? I work around a lot of girls in a unique kind of environment and they only reiterate many redpill tenets. "He was too short, his voice was too high." "He doesn't seem like the kind of guy who can dominate me in bed." "I like him because he's unavailable and my current bf lives far away". - This one is really interesting because being far is also unavailable. It's just that the guy in close proximity is seen as a potential and a challenge, being unavailable is the wrong word.

[–]savoryprunes 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

We can argue about what is right for society, what is right of your personal situation and all the rest, as many of you like to do, but ultimately this is a personal choice. It is your choice to make, not mine, not anybody else’s. Once you have this information, that choice cannot be taken from you. The answer will be different for every man depending on where he is at in his life’s journey.

This! This is the most eloquent expression of this sentiment that I have seen. I vote to make this article required reading.

[–]MattyAnon 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Beautifully written post about love, and it rings true throughout my personal experience, that of society, and of my friends.

One observation is that "love" means so many different things... and male love for women is not the same as the temporary opportunistic 'love' women feel for men.

I've got another word for male love: one-itis.

[–]1NightwingTRP 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

He sees how women love their children, and upon making such an observation concludes that women are capable of great love. This is true, they are. But this is a love reserved for child, not man, and realistically it is a love that few men can ever hope to possess.

What man can hope to attain such love? I don't believe even the Leonardo Dicrapios of the world could achieve this. I agree with the original analysis from Rollo that women are simply incapable of offering men this kind of unconditional love.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't believe even the Leonardo Dicrapios of the world could achieve this. I agree with the original analysis from Rollo that women are simply incapable of offering men this kind of unconditional love.

Astute to pick up on that semanticism there. Technically speaking all love is conditional. A woman's love for her child is based on the condition it has her genes. Semantics aside, the answer is a dark triad man. Women are incredibly loyal, to a point of absurdity even, when it comes to such men. There is a certain possession of mind that takes place. I'll throw you a bone, trauma bonding. In light of that, it is something the vast majority of men need not concern themselves with, because they will never experience it and I certainly cannot endorse such a thing. It simply is what it is. For all intent and purpose, Rollo is of course correct.

[–]1NightwingTRP 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I agree with the conclusion 100%. What I meant by picking up on that was to alert you to the specific danger of such a semanticism for the ordinary man... he may foolishly think he sits within the minority. Your choice what you do with it bro. Either way, I'm merely tributing your work.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

he may foolishly think he sits within the minority.

I'll consider an edit bearing that in mind. Betas gonna rationalise. Thanks for pointing it out.

[–]1NightwingTRP 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anytime brother. We've got to be here for each other. You've always been around to correct me and provide advice for free. God knows nobody else is here for men these days...

[–]ToshiroOzuwara 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is beautiful. Thank you.

[–]Darthstacker 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Great post, you should post it again every so many months because I feel it gets to the core of this terrible misunderstanding most of us have before our first betrayal by a woman. My first introduction to this concept was when my mom; who showed me unconditional love, made my dad sleep on the couch because he was laid off for a couple of weeks during the 1982 recession.

Now the second time I was introduced to this sham was with my first marriage when my ex-wife cheated on me and left me because the housing market crashed in Florida back in 2008. I made her millions but the minute things got tough she cock hopped to a much lesser but stable man. Briffault's Law in full view!

Now I am 42 and I have gotten in pretty good shape. I made back all the money I lost and quite a bit more. I married and smoking hot Russian girl (24) and things are going great. I would like to write an article about this some day on TRP, I think it might help some of you going through the same shit I did a few years back.

I'm not sure it's really "a wicked lie." Women never really say they will love you better or for worse until death do you part do they???(sarc obviously)

[–]tallwheel 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is consistent with Barbarossa's term "male mother need".

[–]ZackCross 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have found to learn what I believe is essentially a woman's capacity of love for men.
Women love men for what they can offer them.
They only love us so long as a we fill enough of their wants and desires, replaceable the moment she decides we no longer serve her purposes to the extent she feels entitled to.

Best thing to do is become the kind of man who excels at ever regard he deems worthy of his time.
Just remember gents, you must exert energy, resources, and time only into women who actually deserve your hard earned you.

[–]slutnip 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree 100% with your post IM, especially coming from a mom who wasn't emotionally available. Saw this in my very first relationship as well and when it went to through the ground, I thought I was the only one who saw the world this way and thought I was different and my perception was wrong. Me being in my early 30s I laugh now at it and thank god I never fell for the whole marriage trap in my 20s. Every girl I ever dated or wanted to date, I always felt a more of an "agenda" from them then "love" Nothing is wrong with their "agenda" per se, it just doesnt match what I want at this time

This is one of the hardest truths to swallow in TRP world. I still have trouble with it even though I know its true

[–]Tree_eyed_raven 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly this. I always had this feeling like women were more in love with the idea of me than me/myself. TRP organized the thoughts and feelings I had towards women.

[–]my_redpill_account 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Every day I come in here and learn something new. Even if it is not new I learn more about what I've already read.

Even the excerpt was great, I never thought about it that way. But it is true, I thought of love as the way my mother loved me as a child without realizing it. It kinda depresses me that it is this way but it is what it is.

Very good read.

[–]APookIsAPook 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The insight about men being raised with loving mothers expecting the same from girlfriends is very insightful. Thank you for the article.

[–]MarinTaranu 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I believe that true love can only be created and obtained under adversity. And it is not a romantic sort of love, but more of an asymetric partnership, mutually beneficial and necessary for survival of individuals. It thus requires a hardship that need to be jointly overcome and a certain amount of equality of traits. Let's look, for example, at the case where Man X and Woman Y are stranded in the jungle. Needing food to survive, building a shelter together, according medical attention to each other and collaborating in resolving differences can lead X and Y close together to a romantic love, and probably an even deeper relationship should children result. But these situations are rare, and in the majority of cases, X becomes infatuated with Y based on her looks and more likely, on her sexual availability. In reality, there is no bond to unite the two together and the couple eventually splits apart. This is a complex topic, so obviously, there can be many different explanations, depending on a person's viewpoint. In the first example, it would be a take it and live, leave it and die. The second would allow the woman many alternatives.

[–]TheDarkTriad 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is such a great article. Goes really well with The Rational - Male Preventative Medicine book.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

"Learning red pill truths exerts incredible impetus on a man to mentally mature and decide what he wants out of women, as well as life."


Great article. It's hard to improve on it because the OP really hit all the main points.

Men love women, women love children, children love puppies

...was never more fully realized than in this article.

I liked how each angle was carefully presented so that everything would fit together tightly.

Could become sidebar material.

[–]1oldredder -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Men love women, women love children, children love puppies

I hate this. I call it lies.

I've seen children want to kill puppies and women close to killing their own children with neglect or selfishness.

I dismiss this nonsense.

[–]snobocracy 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

And some men beat women.
These are social laws. A few exceptions don't disprove a trend.

[–]TheThingsIThink 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Love is a beautiful thing. As you grow older you begin to realize that the love you felt from your mother is incomplete. My mother loved her job and her work more than she loved her children. Likewise my future ex wife loves the semi independence she gets from working her job in retail more than she loves me, or our child. Mothers now do not spend much time nurturing their children. The red pill is caught up on the belief that a mother's love is somehow sacrosanct and is the highest love that a woman will give. A woman's highest love is for themselves. Women love themselves more than their children A woman's love is not sacrificial. It is not sacrificial to her husband. It is not sacrificial to their child, nor their friends.

[–]sympathetic_receptor 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

One thing I am a little unclear about in this hierarchy is:

It is my understanding that a man loves a woman more than a woman loves a man. And a woman loves children more than she loves a man. But if this were to continue, is it really true that women love children more then they love their mother? And do children really love puppies more than they love their mothers? Something about that seems off...

I don't mean to antagonize, as I think this is a great framework through which to view things from our standpoint... but can someone explain this? I don't think I'm convinced that children love puppies more than their moms, and if that is in fact not true, then it kind of debunks the whole hierarchy.

[–]jeanclaudevanman 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

The flow of love trickles down from man. When a woman 'loves' a man or a child 'loves' their mom, the reciprocal love that is returned is in the form of honor and respect.

A woman will never be able to equally return a man’s love for her. Women and children instinctively expect love and care from their partner/parent. When those expectations of love are met, women and children reciprocate in alternate forms often mistaken for love.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

The flow of love trickles down from man. When a woman 'loves' a man or a child 'loves' their mom, the reciprocal love that is returned is in the form of honor and respect.

Very very well said. This is exactly how it is.

Loving downward is sacrifice. Loving upward is respect.

If people feel this distinction would help augment the essay, I'll add it.

[–]jeanclaudevanman 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like the idea of adding it. Your article is very important with regards to a RP man in a LTR or married and if a man desires children.

[–]MentORPHEUS 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Loving downward is sacrifice. Loving upward is respect.

If people feel this distinction would help augment the essay, I'll add it.

Definitely add it. I've seen the love-trickles-downward part over and over on here without the complementary honor-and-respect-flow-upward to complete it. Brilliant!

[–]tiiiiiim 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hey I'm on mobile but I just wanted to let you know the link to your article is broken... I'll delete this comment once you see it

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Strange. Loads absolutely fine from this end.

[–]YXxStrykerxXY 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good piece. Wish it touched more on a Woman's actually love to a man in a romantic aspect.

[–]redbluepilling 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The more man sacrifices for a woman, the more likely he is to fall in love with his investment. The more a woman sacrifices for man while absent of lust, the more repulsion she feels for him, interpreting her need for investment as a shortcoming on his part.

This is a succinct, vital observation.

Anyway, this is a great follow up to the sidebar's Women In Love.

[–]jamaicanleprechaun 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"The more man sacrifices for a woman, the more likely he is to fall in love with his investment. The more a woman sacrifices for man absent of animal lust, the more repulsion she feels for him, interpreting her need for investment as a shortcoming on his part."

Interesting,I would have thought that any person investing in another would cause themselves to feel more for the other (as their brain would have to rationalize that they must be worth a lot if I'm giving them so much time/money)

[–]Eknecron 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

So following this logic, a father loves his daughter unconditionally, sacrifices for her. He is the ultimate beta, but since there is no sexual context the girl only feels compassion for him, therefor loving him back because of his value to her. Seems about right.

[–]Forty_Deuce 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's not right. You can't compare the love between a parent and a child to the love between partners.

[–]Eknecron 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think you're right, but it's a interesting dynamic. I feel a parents love to their child is far greater than a child to their parent. I'm inclined to think a child's love for their parent is more similar to a woman's love for her man. I've seen far more children abandon their parents than vice versa.

[–]Forty_Deuce 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Parents do love their children to a far greater degree. It's something you can't understand until you have a child. Children are supposed to leave the nest and continue the cycle. But that's getting into a whole different dynamic of love. When it comes to a man and a woman, it's more of a partnership. That's not saying that there isn't love, but it's a conditional love. An example is The Wire and Lt. Daniels. His wife was attracted to that young go getter with promise. But when he became content with his position in the police force, she was no longer attracted and that marriage ended.

[–]Haeni 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

As a women I agree with this post. I see the leaching nature of most women. It is draining being friends with these women that most of us do not like to be around each other for long periods of time. After reading this article you guys now understand why we women get into so much drama with each other early in our lives.

My advice would be stay away from bitches still in school or just coming out of college. They are the needy and have the most insecurity issues. Also, don't date a woman with obvious security issues. You will save yourselves trouble there. If they are hot stick to one night stands with them. It will save you a lot of time and energy.

A women that can give a nurturing vibe is rare but you realize that there is more of them later on in life. Society makes women think they have to get married after 6 months of dating and before they turn 25. Which, in my opinion is a bad idea. If you love them then wait a few years to get to know them.

In the end, best off to not get too serious until you get to your late twenties. If the women actually loves you (not like) they will understand. That is your best chance of actually finding a woman that has more of a "red pill" vibe.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

It is natural for a feeling of mere indifference to exist between men, but between women it is actual enmity. This is due perhaps to the fact that odium figulinum in the case of men, is limited to their everyday affairs, but with women embraces the whole sex; since they have only one kind of business. Even when they meet in the street, they look at each other like Guelphs and Ghibellines. And it is quite evident when two women first make each other’s acquaintance that they exhibit more constraint and dissimulation than two men placed in similar circumstances. This is why an exchange of compliments between two women is much more ridiculous than between two men. Further, while a man will, as a rule, address others, even those inferior to himself, with a certain feeling of consideration and humanity, it is unbearable to see how proudly and disdainfully a lady of rank will, for the most part, behave towards one who is in a lower rank (not employed in her service) when she speaks to her. This may be because differences of rank are much more precarious with women than with us, and consequently more quickly change their line of conduct and elevate them, or because while a hundred things must be weighed in our case, there is only one to be weighed in theirs, namely, with which man they have found favour; and again, because of the one-sided nature of their vocation they stand in closer relationship to each other than men do; and so it is they try to render prominent the differences of rank.

--Arthur Schopenhaeur

odium figulinum = jealous of someone you're in competition with who is in the same business as you. Literal = "trade jealousy."

This was written in the 19th century. It's incredibly powerful. Still accurate in the 21st century.

[–]foreverthinking 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is why an exchange of compliments between two women is much more ridiculous than between two men.

Relevant Family Guy clip

[–]neveragoodtime 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And if a man does somehow attain a woman's love as she loves her child, well, her sex drive predictably vanishes. So really, the love we strive for is at odds with our sexual needs. Instead we should love her like her father, if she stays as the child in the relationship, a sexual relationship is still possible. I don't know where this is going, but hopefully you're reading the figurative meaning of what I'm saying and not actually the words that I'm typing.

[–]Endorsed ContributorDoxasticPoo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I might add that it goes beyond just an example set by a boy's mother. Even men who were raised without a mother or by a mean, bitchy mom still yearn for a certain kind of love. In fact, they may desire it even more... knowing they can give to others yet never having received it themselves.

[–]666Evo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

/u/IllimitableMan
Typo: third paragraph, first sentence "...man is an optimistic..."
Great post as usual though.

[–]Wolfman414 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everyone acts in a way that either pursues pleasure and/or avoids pain, everyone. Human psychology dictates that we are all selfish. The only reason a person cares deeply about another person or a cause is because it benefits them and/or avoids pain consciously or unconsciously. Love is merely a pleasurable chemical response to an individual who acts as a stimuli. As Don Draper eloquently put "What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons".

[–]Eagle_creek 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Greetings from Israel. Great article. I wish rollo tomashy will read this.

[–]Dunkh 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Dammit Freud, you're drunk again! But damn that hit home. Also "...an optimistic egalitarian."

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Also "...an optimistic egalitarian."

Eh, I originally put "a optimistic egalitarian" but wordpress corrected me. I'll double check with Word.

Edit: word agrees.

[–]1NightwingTRP -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

word and wordpress are both correct.

[–]ghaenrynquau 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

One exception: women really do love Chads. Don't destroy the romance for everyone. If you're a Chad, you can get it.

[–]RWDMARS -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

The zodiac helped me understand the basis of the masculine and feminine love natures.

I know most of you don't believe in this, but what I see in the zodiac signs, is that there are 2 signs responsible for love are different, one is masculine, and one is feminine. The masculine sign of love is Libra, ruled by venus, and is all about compromise, sharing, giving, becoming one. While the female sign for loving is Taurus, also ruled by venus, which is characterized by permanency, stability, and the appreciation of how one feels.

The basis of a man is the fixed fire sign, leo, ruled by the sun. So already we are more stable, and being a fire sign we are more about action. The basis of a female is the cardinal water sign, cancer, ruled by the moon. So they are automatically more externally-oriented, impulsive, and emotional.

Because the default male sign is a fixed fire sign, we are already fairly stable (we don't change too quickly), and we are more self-oriented towards what we feel like doing. So a man's love nature is the opposite in the sign of compromise, "cardinal", so focused on what someone else wants. Meanwhile, while a woman's default sign is a cardinal water sign, they are automatically more impulsive, and their interests and attention is more fickle. So the feminine love sign is a fixed sign, so when they fall in love they feel like being a permanent partner. So basically it goes, if guys treat girls right, they'll stick around. And the man works (fire sign, leo), and the woman takes care of him and possibly the house (water sign, cancer [is a nurturing sign]). (Just the default setting, it doesn't have to be that way, there's much more to it because everyone is unique.)

Of course, a man can have feminine traits, and a female can have masculine traits. For example my girlfriend is like all fire, and I'm mostly feminine signs, so the roles are a bit reversed here. There is much more too it though than this, but it's interesting to me because it helps me understand the basics of the masculine and feminine love nature.

[–]freethinker34 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Orangutan's alpha male face hair turns red when they accomplish something important, and this gives them the power to yodle a mating call which attracts the females. The next step is to live with Orangutans and gain this wisdom

[–]my_redpill_account -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Really cool you brought the zodiac in. I'm a Leo myself and while I don't take it seriously, that stuff is fun to read about. While anyone can fit into a sign it is nice to hear things that apply to yourself with your sign.

[–]RWDMARS 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks, I usually get nothing but hate when I post about this topic

[–]Source1311 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Astrology has certainly stood the test of time regardless of religion, culture, and tradition. Figuring out your North Node and in which house it is located can be helpful. It is considered a roadmap in life for the individual. Traits to develop.

[–]1oldredder -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Love doesn't get 2 different meanings based on which gender expresses it.

Flat out: women exploit, take, lie and repeat. They have the audacity to call it love, to be 100% selfish.

[–]busyalterego -1ポイント0ポイント  (7子コメント)

Blatant rip off of therationalmale. Absolutely nothing new here.

[–]TheRationalMale.comRollo-Tomassi 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think it's more because of the title since I did a series with the same name and in book 2.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Appreciate the support Rollo. I will buy book 2. When I finally get around to finishing book 1, that is.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Oh shit, I've been caught! I didn't know only one blogger was allowed to write about a topic and then that was it. Thanks for letting me know.

Under that logic any new blogger copied Rollo, and Rollo copied Pook/Roissy.

And I guess every philosopher inspired by another is just a plagiarist, right? You're a cunt to call plagiarism.

Now move along.

Edit: typos

[–]GASTON_TONNERRECOQ 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

All of you ripped off /u/NeoReactionSafe, who posts the hierarchy in roughly half his comments. Persistence trumps precedence!

[–]NeoreactionSafe 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I used to say 2 + 2 = 4 but so many people came up with the same answer I figured I'd need to invent a new answer to keep things interesting.

[–]busyalterego -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Someone ought to go to your blog and copy everything you wrote.

Then call you a cunt as if it makes them tough.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

See now I think you're just trolling. I doubt you even read OP.

You cannot possibly expect nobody to write about something because Rollo has written about it before. Are you going to call him a plagiarist for discussing things people did before him? Are you that dense?

Rollo does not have carte blanche over RP knowledge. I'm not going to avoid a topic because Rollo once mentioned it. And as for your nonsense about people copying my blog, I'm not going to call someone a plagiarist for writing about the dark triad just because I wrote about it in detail first.

And yes, you are a cunt to accuse someone of plagiarism. Very much so. It is far more insulting to be called a thief than it is a cunt. You have caused the bigger insult here. A grand accusation, and with zero proof.

So get some proof. Run one of those academic plagiarism softwares to compare my article with the one I am supposed to have ripped off (I don't even know which one it is.)

Then come back and show us the results.

Don't disappoint us with the irrefutable proof of plagiarism now!