circlebroke 内の Sodaholic によるリンク Are reddit 'celebrities' still a thing?

[–]karmanaut 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hello.

I am around on other usernames.

bestof 内の Stand_Alone_Complex によるリンク /u/SockofBadKarma explains why the vote count for Bernie Sanders' AMA was suspicious and why vote fuzzing doesn't account for the irregularities.

[–]karmanaut 39ポイント40ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am pretty sure that Snowden's went upwards of 13,000. But I don't really have a graph or something and there is no way for mods to see the unfuzzed totals for submissions. Which is really stupid and something that the admins should allow us to have so that we can shoot down these types of conspiracy theories.

And again, Snowden would be an example of an AMA that got outside news coverage and would get people reading it even past its front page peak. Bernie Sanders may be a god on Reddit but he won't generate the same level of interest in the mainstream press.

bestof 内の Stand_Alone_Complex によるリンク /u/SockofBadKarma explains why the vote count for Bernie Sanders' AMA was suspicious and why vote fuzzing doesn't account for the irregularities.

[–]karmanaut 808ポイント809ポイント  (0子コメント)

This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. I've seen this exact same thing happen in hundreds and hundreds of big AMAs.

Reddit applies fuzzing downvotes in big batches all at once, instead of spreading them out. But it gives normal votes as soon as they are given. That accounts for the big swings. It shoots to 10,000.... then Reddit applies some downvotes to keep it in check. Then it shoots back up... and Reddit applies more downvotes. No matter how massive it would normally be, the point of Reddit's vote fuzzing is to keep something from getting to big that it would take days to supplant it. Reddit is designed to drop older content from the page in order to allow newer content to rise up. God himself could do an AMA and the votes would still be fuzzed to the point where he wouldn't even crack the top ten. There's no conspiracy about Bernie, this is just how Reddit works.

The way that you can tell this is true is when an old post is dug out and upvoted. Let's say that Reddit's algorithm puts out diminishing numbers of upvotes. 1000 for the first hour, 100 for the tenth hour, 10 for the hundredth hour, etc. That's not how it works exactly (it's a curve) but it's close enough for our purposes. But if you dig something up at the hundredth hour and submit it to bestof, it will still show the thousands and thousands of votes it is getting, with NO fuzzing downvotes applied. That's how the "Test post, please ignore" thing kept its spot at the top for so long: it was upvoted after the fuzzing downvotes were applied. So if people were to rediscover Bernie's AMA next week and vote on it then, it could probably make it to the top spot. That also explains how Obama's AMA got to be our top post (and kept the spot): because it got news coverage and people kept coming back to read it even after the vote fuzzing stopped.


Tl;dr: It's reddit's vote fuzzing. Stop it with the loony conspiracy theories.

announcements 内の weffey によるリンク Transparency is important to us, and today, we take another step forward.

[–]karmanaut -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't listen to the haters karmanaut

If I did that, I would have left years ago.

announcements 内の weffey によるリンク Transparency is important to us, and today, we take another step forward.

[–]karmanaut -13ポイント-12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shifty stuff? All I really want to do is comment anonymously. I change accounts regularly when one becomes too noticeable, and I've replied to myself in the past as a way of avoiding suspicion when one username would conspicuously not comment on something. It doesn't change my opinions or my comments; I'd just prefer to be left alone when I comment instead of every discussion turning into "oh, you're karmanaut!"

announcements 内の weffey によるリンク Transparency is important to us, and today, we take another step forward.

[–]karmanaut -17ポイント-16ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, a huge amount of downvotes means "you brought nothing to the discussion"

What it meant in the case he was referring to was that some whiners were throwing a temper tantrum.

announcements 内の weffey によるリンク Transparency is important to us, and today, we take another step forward.

[–]karmanaut -6ポイント-5ポイント  (0子コメント)

The difference with Reddit is that you can make your own community if you want to change things or have it done differently.

Before I was a mod of /r/askreddit, that subreddit had no rules. This was way back in the day, mind you. I thought that it could be improved with rules, so I started my own version of /r/askreddit and got it up to a few hundred subscribers before the mods of /r/askreddit recognized the value of the rules and added me to their sub.

announcements 内の weffey によるリンク Transparency is important to us, and today, we take another step forward.

[–]karmanaut -69ポイント-68ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, absolutely correct.

A ban means "You're no longer welcome here."

announcements 内の weffey によるリンク Transparency is important to us, and today, we take another step forward.

[–]karmanaut 77ポイント78ポイント  (0子コメント)

The flip side to this is when mods ban someone for a petty reason, but the user still wants to contribute to the community. Redditors are human, too, and sometimes emotions get heated.

There are two sides to every coin. What you might consider a petty reason could be a very important rule for that community. I've had people in /r/Askreddit try to argue that telling a rape victim that they should commit suicide should not be considered offensive. Then they went off about how SJWs are taking over Reddit with ridiculous rules and censorship.

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[–]karmanaut 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, it's not a problem at all. Subreddits are far more enjoyable for users with basic standards of decency and decorum.

announcements 内の weffey によるリンク Transparency is important to us, and today, we take another step forward.

[–]karmanaut 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I believe it falls under "Don't break the site or do anything that interferes with normal use of the site."

But I am absolutely the first one to complain about the vagueness in policy from the admins.

announcements 内の weffey によるリンク Transparency is important to us, and today, we take another step forward.

[–]karmanaut 371ポイント372ポイント  (0子コメント)

Did you know you can be shadowbanned for commenting with an alt account in a sub where your main account has been banned? Both accounts gone.

As a mod of a major sub... this is AMAZING. Thank god the admins started doing this recently.

Do you know how frustrating it is to try and manage 8,000,000 people and at least try to keep them civil when you only really have one tool at your disposal to punish them? Oh, and guess what: turns out that that tool does nothing because they can easily create another account in a second.

I have seen people relentlessly harassed while we are utterly helpless to do anything because the harassers can make accounts faster than we can ban them. Or maybe users who spam racial slurs everywhere just for the hell of it. Or users who post spoilers to popular movies shows just because they find it fun to piss people off.

Thank fuck we now have a more permanent solution to get rid of these assholes. Ban evasion was (and still is) a serious problem for Reddit.

IAmA 内の [deleted] によるリンク [Mod Post] On Astroturfing and Admin Inaction

[–]karmanaut 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

We have approached the admins a number of times in the past and they have been willing to clarify whether astroturfing was involved (without disclosing any confidential information). Here's an example. We'd be more than happy with a similar response now.

IAmA 内の [deleted] によるリンク [Mod Post] On Astroturfing and Admin Inaction

[–]karmanaut 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

So don't be put off if you don't think some particular incidence is actual astroturfing, it is better there are some conspiracy theorists out there crazy/bored enough to examine every suspicious case than not

The main issue with this is when they accuse people of astroturfing who really aren't doing anything wrong. /r/IAmA gets lots of people registering new accounts just to ask a question of someone they follow on twitter, facebook, etc. A new account is not indicative of anything suspicious on its own. But time and again, new users have been harassed based on little or no evidence.

IAmA 内の [deleted] によるリンク [Mod Post] On Astroturfing and Admin Inaction

[–]karmanaut 46ポイント47ポイント  (0子コメント)

The simpler and more plausible answer is that they just don't want to get involved because they try to avoid conflict or controversy whenever possible. They always wait to respond until things have blown up in their faces and they are forced to say something.

IAmA 内の [deleted] によるリンク [Mod Post] On Astroturfing and Admin Inaction

[–]karmanaut 75ポイント76ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes. This is covered in the third paragraph:

The task of administrating vote cheating and astroturfing falls within the purview of the reddit admins. In this circumstance, they have refused to answer definitively whether astroturfing occurred which would allow the moderators to handle the issue. They have also declined to take any action at this time. This is not the first time we have asked for their help investigating issues regarding the integrity of AMAs and have not received a response. This history of poor communication and lack of assistance from the admin team has proven to be extremely frustrating to the mod team, and to our users.

tl;dr: the admins won't help us resolve the issue, so we mods don't have any evidence either way.

IAmA 内の leet455 によるリンク [AMA Request] Ron Jeremy

[–]karmanaut 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

He cancelled. It happens.

SubredditDrama 内の Erra0 によるリンク Dramatic Happening: Reddit Blog post about company's core values elicits critical response from users.

[–]karmanaut 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's the secret santa stuff but that's seasonal and pretty much completely different.

Reddit didn't start this. It started as a user project on Askreddit that turned into a website, which Reddit then bought.

They're basically trying to figure out how to monetize what's basically the Weebly of forums. But they can't actually figure out a good way to do it.

Absolutely.