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"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle."
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Seduction is a Game
In order to win any game, you must make the opposing player lose. In the game of seduction, men and women play against each other.
To be clear, men and women aren't "opponents" in the sense that we hate each other, or want to do physical harm to each other. It's not like we decided to play against each other for the sheer sake of becoming opponents. Opponent. Enemy. Call it whatever the fuck you want. This is what the game has dictated that you are, and you don't get to change that.
Men and women are opponents in the game of seduction because we are attracted to each other. Women have something that men value (sexual access), and men have something that women value (commitment). The game of seduction is won by manipulating your opponent into providing you with something of greater value than you expend.
One of you can only gain something at the expense of the other player. To be clear, you can both have fun while being opponents, and in all likelihood you will. But you can't decide "we're not enemies since we're playing for fun :)" because guess what? You can't both win! In the game of seduction, the players who only play for fun - i.e. they play without a strategy - and therefore always lose are called Nice Guys and Whores. They both give away their love for free.
The players who play the Game to win - i.e. they play with a strategy - are called Players and Cuckolds. The Player's sexual strategy is to maximize the number of higher-quality women who he plates (non-exclusive sexual partners), and his optional strategy is to fuck Whores (non-recurring sexual partners). The Cuckold's sexual strategy is to maximize the value of the man she associates with at any given time (either non-recurring, non-exclusive or exclusive sexual partner), and her simultaneous strategy is to maximize her number of Nice Guy orbiters (non-exclusive asexual partners).

Know the Enemy: How You Make Her Feel Determines How She Treats You
Women treat men based on how men make them feel. This is precisely the reason why so many men are unable to grasp Game - because women are illogical and therefore Game is illogical. From my experience, any particular woman will mentally categorize every man in her life into one of 3 categories, each of which directly affect her behaviors toward you:
(1) "He makes me feel unworthy"
In the beginning stages of meeting her: She'll either fuck you or avoid you.
Over the long-term: She'll eventually avoid you.
(2)"He makes me feel special"
In the beginning stages of meeting her: She won't fuck you, but will fuck other guys. You're her orbiter, and potentially a future LTR if she runs out of other options.
Over the long-term: If you're still her orbiter, she still won't fuck you, and she'll still fuck other guys. If you've been promoted to LTR, she'll fuck you until you've lost the status, and she'll likely still fuck other guys until then.
(3) She feels nothing toward you and therefore she'll ignore you.

Know Yourself: Pose as a Friend, But Work as a Philanderer
This is the brand of Game which I consider to be most effective. It's the perfect mix of categories 1 & 2. She won't be able to decide whether you make her feel unworthy or special, and so her hamster will land upon the conclusion that you must be a unicorn. Pull this off correctly and you'll be bringing her home that night.
Strategy
Verbally, you want demonstrate an acted-out politeness that makes her question whether or not you're actually attracted to her. In her mind, she'll think that maybe you "just want to be friends" with her and nothing more. This will make her question whether you're trying to make her feel special by feigning politeness, or if genuinely consider her to be unworthy because your interest in the conversation is constructed. In reality, you'll be doing a little bit of both - but her hamster will go crazy trying to categorize her feelings (and thus how she treats you) into one category or the other.
Behaviorally, through your interactions with her, the goal is to show her that you find her attractive (through your eyes), but that you're also scouting out the social landscape for other options. This will make her question whether or not you're actually attracted to her. In reality, you will be demonstrating an attraction to her, but you will also be demonstrating an attraction to other women besides her. You want her to think you're "above" her, she's not your best option, and therefore you're a higher value man who she's willing to compete for (i.e. fuck).
Tactics
Eye fuck her hard when speaking to her. When she speaks, alternate between eye fucking her and looking around slowly (your "hoe radar"). She'll pick up on this. If she likes you, start kino-ing her until you notice that she's starting to eye you harder, then go in for a kiss and make out with her aggressively. Subtly grab her neck, start progressively gripping harder ("take her breath away") and start rotating her head back and forth. Show enough dominance and control with this technique and you will easily fuck her later.
If kino-ing doesn't seem to be a good option at that point, proceed likewise: Say very little when responding to her and feign interest in what she's saying, as if you're "just being polite" because you haven't decided whether or not you like her yet (which could very well be true). The more fake your interest in the conversation seems, the better.
If she turns to talk to one of her friends for even a second, your initial reaction will be to scout out the area and start flirting with the next group of girls you see. Chances are, the initial girl will pick up on this and practically pounce on you shortly after.

Pose as a friend, but work as a philanderer. It sounds easy because it is. Because in the Game of seduction you're playing against women, and as we all know women can't beat men in anything.
"But Tits_Out! What about all the orbiters? Don't THEY all lose??" Of course they do. They compete with each other because they mistake their opponent for an ally. Play the Game against the wrong opponent and you'll lose - just ask all the orbiters who give away their time and attention for free.
Note: This brand of Game works best in social settings like a bar or a party, particularly when you're with a group of your bros. If their Game sucks, they'll supplicate and make you look better for standing back and being patient. If their Game is tight, you'll likely have better/more women to choose from.
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[–]Endorsed ContributorTheRedPilsner 14 points15 points16 points  (0 children)
The game of seduction is won by manipulating your opponent into providing you with something of greater value than you expend.
I like how Mark Manson put it in his book Models: He said something like "Seduction is the process of making a woman more invested in you than you are in her."
[–]Endorsed Contributordr_warlock 6 points7 points8 points  (2 children)
The game of seduction is won by manipulating your opponent into providing you with something of greater value than you expend. One of you can only gain something at the expense of the other player.
“For one gender to realize their sexual imperative the other must sacrifice their own.” -/u/Rollo-Tomassi in his article, The Feminine Reality.
This is the brand of Game which I consider to be most effective. It's the perfect mix of categories 1 & 2. She won't be able to decide whether you make her feel unworthy or special, and so her hamster will land upon the conclusion that you must be a unicorn. Pull this off correctly and you'll be bringing her home that night.
This is what many men struggle with. It seems logical to keep a constant fun, calm atmosphere. But in reality, you need to have her in emotional chaos. The higher the power output of her hamster, the greater your chance at scoring.
[–]Endorsed ContributorTheRedPilsner 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
This is what many men struggle with. It seems logical to keep a constant fun, calm atmosphere. In reality, you need to have her in emotional chaos. The higher the power output of her hamster, the greater your chance at scoring.
This is why a lot of PUAs advocate "Push/Pull Technique." Basically, you display sexual interest in a woman for a bit, and then you suddenly shift gears and display disinterest in her, and then you shift gears back to displaying interest. This creates massive amounts of sexual tension and makes her determined to find out if you're really into her or not.
[–]alpha_buffalo 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
In reality, you need to have her in emotional chaos. The higher the power output of her hamster, the greater your chance at scoring.
So true, I think I have really done this successfully once in a club so successfully that the contrasting behavior I displayed sent her hamster spinning that she ended up crying in the club. Still took her home. Very effective.
[–]benzamtrp 5 points6 points7 points  (1 child)
Behaviorally, through your interactions with her, the goal is to show her that you find her attractive (through your eyes), but that you're also scouting out the social landscape for other options. This will make her question whether or not you're actually attracted to her. In reality, you will be demonstrating an attraction to her, but you will also be demonstrating an attraction to other women besides her. You want her to think you're "above" her, she's not your best option, and therefore you're a higher value man who she's willing to compete for (i.e. fuck).
Alright. Stop. This is gold right here.
I'm reading Mark Manson's Models right now and I was quite unconvinced by a concept of his and you just unlocked it.
MM says that a woman:
  1. Desires to be desired and
  2. Looks for a male with higher status than her.
Now both assertions are self-evident to the redpill Man, the first for example being at the root of Pook's advice to be a sexual man and the second the simple definition of hypergamy. However MM rightly points out this brings us to a paradox since "if a high status man pursues a woman, he makes himself low status and therefore unattractive." Fair enough but then he claims that "vulnerability" solves the paradox and I wrote "BS" in the margin and was left feeling that a piece of the puzzle is missing...
And you brilliant man, come along today with the last piece: "show you desire her, but also show her she's not your best option". Sexual man, desire her, high-status in one package... Simple.
[–]1kingofpoplives 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Behaviorally, through your interactions with her, the goal is to show her that you find her attractive (through your eyes), but that you're also scouting out the social landscape for other options.
It's interesting. I've noticed that my game often works better on higher smv women who I'm extremely attracted to. I think subconsciously, a woman can feel how strong your attraction is. If it's only lukewarm, even if you are above her smv wise, she probably won't stick around very long.
The subtle skill here is conveying your sexual desire without ever directly stating it, and without ever directly stating how sexy/beautiful she is. Both of these things are the kiss of death to a seduction.
The second part of always maintaining your options is also crucial. Women are deeply competitive and are nuts for pre-selection. They all want the man who is good enough to have other options. They would rather compete for that man's attention than have a lesser man all to themselves.
This is why it's such a massive mistake to quickly agree to exclusivity. Even if that's what you think you want (and really, with enough experience you won't want that, because AWALT) it's still important to hold out and keep fucking other women for at least six months. If you do that, she'll always love you more.
[–]sedushon 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
I draw contention with the premise that any of this is illogical. Her cognitive-dissonance-inducing struggle between a man of high value and a stable provider is a battle between her primitive and rational brain. It makes sense. What she wants isn't unpredictable.
because women are illogical and therefore Game is illogical.
Most guys struggle, I think, because they try to hit somewhere in the middle of the two, which doesn't work, or listen to her rational brain which wants the provider, and thus turns you into a beta male. You become a boring AFC. What you rightly describe in your post is polarization -- you give her extremes of both the rational and primitive needs.
What you've done is actually shown that the primitive brain is not conscious in the same sense as the rational brain: notice how all the signals you're giving her that you want to fuck are passive, and go beyond simple, rational, conversation while you lure her rational self in with your 'make her feel special' tactics.
I think it's absolutely logical, and we can create a coherent framework to play this game within because of that.
[–]colombia40 8 points9 points10 points  (0 children)
Boner Jams 2015 with Black Knight expansion pack
Best game ever
[–]B0KAM 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
This is gold, fantastic post.
[–]NeoreactionSafe 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
"The Player's sexual strategy is to maximize the number of higher-quality women who he plates (non-exclusive sexual partners), and his optional strategy is to fuck Whores (non-recurring sexual partners)."

Keep in mind there is sexual strategy and reproductive strategy.
While all Red Pill truths exist in both strategies it's up to the individual to decide which they choose.
Some say having 10 children and an obedient wife is Alpha.
Others say spinning 10 plates is Alpha.
Red Pill is amoral about your choice.
[–]ItalianElliotRodger comment score below threshold-10 points-9 points-8 points  (4 children)
There is no " game ". Women judge men on physical appearance only. It's amazing, a subreddit called red pill with topic about game and the whole scam of seduction.
[–]benzamtrp 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
Have you read about some guy named "rollo tomassi" who talk about how women are attracted to other alpha traits that may not be physical appearance only and how one should "game" even your LTR?
[–]Maaahoney 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
check his user name. no need to defend yourself
[–]ItalianElliotRodger -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
yeah, but if you don't have a good look basis you are fucked
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