KotakuInAction 内の AntithesisD によるリンク KiA Rules and Mods - Criticism and Debate Megathread

[–]cha0s 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

For sure man. I'm going to participate in whatever capacity I feel is appropriate. Thanks for keeping it real :)

KotakuInAction 内の AntithesisD によるリンク KiA Rules and Mods - Criticism and Debate Megathread

[–]cha0s -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

It should be ridiculed

The only mistake that was made was reacting emotionally and engaging in petty fights

jes sayin' :3

I do understand the community has concerns though, just to make that clear. Not trying to erase that.

KotakuInAction 内の AntithesisD によるリンク KiA Rules and Mods - Criticism and Debate Megathread

[–]cha0s -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes it makes sense but it's kind of not what I was addressing. There was the bald-faced lie that this is being done "to appease SJW" and that simply is not the case. That never even factored in to any part of anything ever considered... ever.

Why can't I ever destroy a faulty argument without getting dragged into a red herring about KiA's role in terms of PR? All I said in that entire thread was that the idea that any changes are to "appease SJW" is ludicrous. I read and acknowledged your post and I find it to have no relevance to that whatsoever.

If you want to argue muh pr, do it to someone explicitly stating that's an issue we need to deal with, not me.

KotakuInAction 内の Lurkenz によるリンク [Meta] The owner of /gamergatehq/ explains the reasons for its recent rule changes, clears up misconceptions about the board, and invites all of #Gamergate over

[–]cha0s -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

If the user base can be baited by swami and other trolls who explicitly state their goal is to destroy KiA then trust is kind of a moot point

KotakuInAction 内の MaleGoddess によるリンク New sub? Anyone?

[–]cha0s 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Used another site to find the absolute count, -72. The previous day was a gain of 12. 60 new subs a day seems a reasonable guesstimate of daily growth based on the aforementioned graph. So,

(60 - 12) = day one net loss, 48 users
(60 - -72) = day two net loss, 132 users

Total net loss = (132 + 48) = 180 users.

KotakuInAction 内の pixel4e によるリンク [Ideas] It's been a while since I've heard wild (not "any") accusations of misogyny, racism and transphobia with regards to Gamergate. Have we started to see the pendulum swing the other way?

[–]cha0s 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Now it's just a slow burn, fixated in people's unconscious, ready to be invoked with a facemash of the keyboard into any piece needing to sound "progressive" to sell a (typically ideological) product.

KotakuInAction 内の AntithesisD によるリンク KiA Rules and Mods - Criticism and Debate Megathread

[–]cha0s -6ポイント-5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Na mate, you triggered the community. There is always room to make amends though.

FTFY

KotakuInAction 内の MaleGoddess によるリンク New sub? Anyone?

[–]cha0s 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's fine. If it's a sign then at most it's a sign that as of right now a very very small percentage of users are so upset that they have unsubscribed. That in itself says nothing.

KotakuInAction 内の AntithesisD によるリンク KiA Rules and Mods - Criticism and Debate Megathread

[–]cha0s 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

I did leave of my own accord, no mod asked me to step down.

KotakuInAction 内の MaleGoddess によるリンク New sub? Anyone?

[–]cha0s -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I already addressed it. .2% is not a sign of anything. Can we agree that it's a subjective valuation and you think .2% means something and I don't?

KotakuInAction 内の MaleGoddess によるリンク New sub? Anyone?

[–]cha0s 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

8chan just seems totally incapable of actually running a forum (save for the latest one? Dude seems to actually care). Again, I don't 8chan, it's a huge clusterfuck and they super jelly of KiA. There's a reason KiA has a bigger sub base. The mods know what they're doing.

KotakuInAction 内の MaleGoddess によるリンク New sub? Anyone?

[–]cha0s 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ultimately I think you're right about that and I stepped down willingly because I know that an abrasive mod is causing more harm than good right now.

Do I think the "criticism" being said is circlejerk worthy? Oh hell yes. Regardless. I'm perfectly fine being a pleb and saying all the same stuff I always have.

KotakuInAction 内の MaleGoddess によるリンク New sub? Anyone?

[–]cha0s 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I guess it's hard for me to understand that you would believe there is actually a majority flipping out right now. I guess that's on me.

KotakuInAction 内の MaleGoddess によるリンク New sub? Anyone?

[–]cha0s 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seriously, you pay this much attention to what people do in their free time? You must have a lot.

KotakuInAction 内の MaleGoddess によるリンク New sub? Anyone?

[–]cha0s -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think it is irrelevant when statements were made about the whole mod team of which I was a part of during that post.

As far as being abrasive? Hell yeah I'm abrasive. It's way too triggering for KiA.

KotakuInAction 内の MaleGoddess によるリンク New sub? Anyone?

[–]cha0s 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

speak for everyone

You're going to run into all the same problems the mods (who believe it or not, contrary to popular opinion don't actually want to kill KiA as crazy as that sounds) do when it comes to that. I'd take a more community-building cooperative approach rather than blatantly trying to split the sub, just my 2c.

KotakuInAction 内の MaleGoddess によるリンク New sub? Anyone?

[–]cha0s -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

The real point here being that I used evidence to argue my position and you rely on spooky scary terminology like "it was a sign". I directly addressed your argument which you then accused me of belittling as though it is a precious snowflake. No, it will be answered with evidence.

KotakuInAction 内の MaleGoddess によるリンク New sub? Anyone?

[–]cha0s -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

My "actions", while admittedly found to be distasteful by some do not and have never reflected my stance on content moderation policy.

Stop trying to erase what was said:

Logan:

we're not deleting the content that Acid Man is deleting

notalent:

Only because of community outrage and opposition.

Me:

Actually, it's about ethics I have a record of being against any sweeping content moderation policy changes.

Do you like, want my number or something?

KotakuInAction 内の MaleGoddess によるリンク New sub? Anyone?

[–]cha0s -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because all you've done since you told me that you "present facts and a bit of snark" is the snark part.

Oops, I guess you forgot where I called you out for saying a .2% shift is significant, and then actually answered your question about "whether I thought the policy implemented 2 days ago is responsible for 36k subscribers over the last 9 months".

It's so absurd you'd think I'm making it up, yet I always back it up with evidence, like I just did. Here's the ball (she's a woman since this is the Game of Patriarchy), your move.

KotakuInAction 内の MaleGoddess によるリンク New sub? Anyone?

[–]cha0s -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Actually he claimed "my actions" don't match what I posted in my comment. I'll give you a second to go read it, but spoiler alert: the comment I posted had to do with which content to keep, which I have always been on the same page about.

I am fully guilty of snarking when people demonstrate that they are interested in feels > reals, if you haven't noticed. I literally wear it as a badge of honor on this subreddit.