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[–]_sekhmet_The Original Thundercat 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was just in that thread. It was infuriating to see all those people buy what that guy was saying despite his lack of sources and clearly biased view. It never ceases to amaze me how much reddit will discount what what someone says because they are a feminist, or a Muslim or a Christian, but they will completely ignore someone's obvious racism.

I think my favorite quote from that thread was this:

Reddit will always fucking turn on you when you say something that goes against the narrative of cop hating, white hating, man hating, authority hating drivel the community at large accepts. TRIGGERED.

This is literally the exact opposite of most of reddit. Most of Reddit is so anti-everything that commenter accused it of being that suspecting someone of being an sjw is considered a decent reason to dismiss what they say even if it's accurate and well cited.

[–]websterandy42Are we human? Or are we cancer?[S] 26ポイント27ポイント  (6子コメント)

Also, he later defends himself with:

i've cited common sense and logic.

if you paid a bunch of money for a horse or a mule would you starve it to death? would you beat it to death?

do you honestly need me to cite sources where people purchased horses and mules and didn't beat them to death or can we just agree that that probably went down that way.

"Nah I don't need sources. I just STEM'd it out."

[–]Nurglings 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just praxing things out is the cornerstone of libertarian philosophy.

[–]killswitch247Lincoln did nothing wrong. 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Theory is without purpose if it is not connected with revolutionary practice.

ayn rand

[–]Eireika 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

if you paid a bunch of money for a horse or a mule would you starve it to death? would you beat it to death?

This statement amazes me to no end, because people who use such a comparison had probably never been on a traditional farm, where whip was a normal way to correct disobedient animal.

[–]blackfire83 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to find anecdotal evidence of a farmer getting rid of or "putting out to pasture" a particularly troublesome animal that could not be trained. Also, we've been breeding those animals for centuries to select for tameness and workability. Humans, not so much. This analogy is more than a little bit flawed.

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

"We don't beat horses" can be invalidated by putting the Preakness on.

[–]urnbabyurn 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why is it always so easy to find a ton of racist shit in the persons history. It's never just some rando with a controversial idea, but just damn racism.

[–]Klondeikbar 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

there were slaves of all colors, but more often than not it was black slaves

Isn't it funny how history is full of little coincidences like this?

[–]ReverendSinatra 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

I had a professor once claim that slaves on the early plantations in Cuba were so cheap to replace they were often barely fed, worked to death very quickly and replaced with a new batch. Ill have to look into that claim when I get home, I haven't thought about it in years.

[–]mudsill 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

it was pretty bad in Brazil and Haiti, too. Sugar plantations were no joke.

[–]Beansareno1 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, the native population of Cuba basically succumbed to their treatment and the introduced virus'. So it makes sense to see that they were "cheap" when you "use" them as to basically extinct them.

[–]Conny_and_TheoXwedodah Missionary 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey guys, so I heard about how a couple of Nazis soldiers were nice to a Jew and gave him food and didn't kill him and helped him escape from Germany. So I conclude the Nazis weren't that bad, the Holocaust wasn't that horrible, and that this excuses everything the Nazis did, and it's all a lie by the ILLUMINERTY!

[–]derp_space_nine 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

A farmer wouldn't ram a truck into his barn. He also wouldn't whip it for breaking down. Or rip apart it's fictitious tractor family. Or intentionally breed tractors, so he can own better tractors. Or send thousands of combines into a mine, and if a combine dies, who cares, you can always get More.

[–]EnleatViking plate armor. 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Another day, another fucking racist hunk of shit redditor saying slavery wasn't that bad.

sigh

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[–]mudsill 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

but they damn sure weren't treated like shit "cause racism" as many responding to this thread would have you believe (because they have been led to believe that nonsense).

i swear, this entire website needs a swift kick in the balls sometimes

[–]MaG50 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm probably going to get downvoted to oblivion for this, but I think both this post and the original are limiting the discussion for the specific case of American stile, plantation, chattel slavery typical of the american South, Caribbean and Parts of South America.

Slavery has been around from as long as humanity has had a concept of property, and maybe even longer. Slavery, throughout this very extensive period, has been enforced in various ways, some harsher, some less so. All of them completely opposed to the concept of human rights.

Further, there is a very clear tendency to equate slavery with racism. This is perfectly logical in the US due to historical reasons, but in no way where Africans the sole subjects of slavery on a global scale. Racism does not have and objective link to slavery and in fact if you look at modern slavery you will find that it often happens between peoples of the same "race".

In this sense I must agree with the original offender when he/she says that slavery wasn't "12 years a slave" most of the time. It wasn't simply because it has been around for so long that it has taken on as many shapes as you can imagine. They all share 2 main characteristics though. Loss of freedom and being all round awful.