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[–]Skipione 599ポイント600ポイント  (198子コメント)

3 major things:
- Her comments about reddit and free speech: “it’s not our site’s goal to be a completely free-speech platform. We want to be a safe platform and we want to be a platform that also protects privacy at the same time.” http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2015/05/19/407971708/reddits-new-harassment-policy-aimed-at-creating-a-safe-platform
- Her sexual discrimination lawsuit against former employer the venture capital firm Kleiner Perkins. She lost and a lot of negative things came out about her from the lawsuit. http://www.wired.com/2015/03/ellen-pao-kleiner-verdict/
- Her husband Buddy Fletcher who ran a hedgefund that went bankrupt in which he is accused of civil fraud, with his hedgefund described as a ponzi scheme. http://www.vanityfair.com/style/scandal/2013/03/buddy-fletcher-ellen-pao

*edit, added some links that hopefully provide context.

[–]IranianGenius 272ポイント273ポイント  (27子コメント)

That has compounded with recent issues that Reddit hasn't liked. Two failed ideas in Redditmade and Reddit notes, along with the weird admin message after The Fappening, an unnecessary snoovatar thing, and "core values" that went over controversially, a lot of people have been blaming Reddit's recent meta-troubles on Ellen.

At least that's the vibe I've been getting. The subreddits I moderate definitely don't show a loss in traffic, and I've seen Reddit mentioned in the media all the same.

[–]DrProbably 61ポイント62ポイント  (10子コメント)

Well the site growing and the site going in a direction that the userbase approves of aren't necessarily the same.

[–]VoilaVoilaWashington 111ポイント112ポイント  (8子コメント)

In fact, they're probably mutually exclusive, given that we all know that Reddit was perfect the day we joined, and every change since then has been devastating.

[–]HI_Handbasket 28ポイント29ポイント  (3子コメント)

What, they're nerfing reddit?!

[–]CartoonJustice 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ya they are adding a cool down between each post view. Supposed to make it fair for druids or something.

[–]HI_Handbasket 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They have that in some subreddits; the NY Rangers is one that can't take more than a single punch.

[–]theroyalalastor 37ポイント38ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Facebook paradox

[–]celticwhisper 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

So you're saying that these changes are the cancer that is killing /b/ Reddit?

[–]Werner__Herzog 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

The biggest part of the user base probably doesn't care. That doesn't mean that a few people complaining can't blow up into a user uprising.

Those few people (probably in the thousands now) used to be like a few dozen at best.

[–]Werner__Herzog 67ポイント68ポイント  (10子コメント)

Redditmade

not her idea

and Reddit note

not her idea

along with the weird admin message after The Fappening

not her message

an unnecessary snoovatar thing

maybe her idea, idk. Probs more of a kn0thing thing

and "core values" that went over controversially

that one got Ellen Pao written all over it

[–]Stalked_Like_Corn 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Other issues with the site is that they only ban subs when they get bad press coverage and don't give a shit otherwise. Jailbait and the creep shots sub was around for a good long while and it wasn't until they got bad press they took it down. It wasn't until they got bad press from /r/thefappening that they took it down. Meanwhile they say it's not because of media but because people were posting photos of others.

The whole fucking SITE is about posting photos of others. Creepshots is even back under the guise of some fashion subreddit and it's widely known but it's not gotten bad press again so they don't give a shit.

[–]elesdee 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can you explains why redditmade and reddit notes failed? Or did they announce its failure or something? they seem like decent ideas.

[–]NanoGeek 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

They shut redditmade down because it wasn't doing as well as they wanted. According to some mods, the admins were really bad about approving or denying ideas. They'd sit in the queue for a long time without comment.

reddit notes was an announcement they made. It was never actually released and they never had a clear idea what it would be. My understanding is that it was basically just one admin's idea that he ran with.

[–]mrpopenfresh 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reddit notes, what a failure! The creator (or the guy who imagined them to be more precise) still posts on the site.

[–]TheCocksmith 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

OMG your June numbers. You poor bastard. May God have mercy on your soul.

[–]AdmiralShark 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would've missed the cringey Core Values bit without you mentioning it.

Every time I've been with a company talks about "core values" they've either been in big trouble or simply didn't exist a couple years later.

[–]shas_o_kais 51ポイント52ポイント  (78子コメント)

What negative things came out about her during the trial? That link doesn't mention anything. In fact, the article is extremely vague.

[–]Werner__Herzog 56ポイント57ポイント  (1子コメント)

As far as I can remember the lawyers of the opposing party tried to shine a negative light on her, by claiming that she was a bad worker and didn't deserve a promotion and also had a history with one of her bosses. So while she claimed to fight for gender equality they painted a picture of a needy woman that wanted revenge on an ex. Which I guess is just what lawyers do.

BTW, this comment isn't me saying one or the other were right...I don't care. They all have more money than me, so I hate them equally.

[–]OohLongJohnson 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

She was also accused of stifling other women's careers for her own ambitions and then later to lend credibility to her lawsuit.

[–]halifaxdatageek 48ポイント49ポイント  (20子コメント)

A certain slice of Reddit seems to have an alternate history going on, where Pao's trial wasn't a normal trial with respect on both sides, but a screaming deathmatch where she grew three tails a day and ate babies on the stand.

It was just a normal trial, people.

[–]VoilaVoilaWashington 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

It was just a normal trial

So the lawyers ate babies then?

[–]anonimo99 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I got the shotgun, you've got the baby eating habit.

[–]likferd 40ポイント41ポイント  (15子コメント)

Not everyone considers it normal to sue for not getting a promotion after sleeping with one of your bosses.

[–]Doc_Strangelove 5ポイント6ポイント  (14子コメント)

The article doesn't mention that, either, care to provide a link to something verifying that?

[–]likferd 6ポイント7ポイント  (13子コメント)

There is some more info here

[–]Doc_Strangelove 8ポイント9ポイント  (12子コメント)

The article also says the guy involved also sexually approached another female junior partner. Yeah, maybe Pao consented, but do you really not see how that power structure paired with these occurrences is an issue?

[–]likferd 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

She had an affair with her married boss. Most likely as a ploy to advance within the firm. She is not the victim she plays. She is just as morally corrupt as her boss.

[–]Doc_Strangelove 7ポイント8ポイント  (10子コメント)

Most likely as a ploy to advance within the firm

This kind of assumption, when the married man involved also pursued another female junior partner, is hilariously short-sighted. Good luck in life.

[–]likferd 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

What else can we assume then? She said herself, that the person in question "pressured her into a relationship". Which pretty much means, sleep with me and you get a promotion. Unless of course he used violence, threats or some such, but i think that would have come up.

[–]ostiedetabarnac 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

Not that I think he's right, but did you really think taking the moral high-road would look good here?

[–]NovaDeez 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Most likely as a ploy to advance within the firm

This kind of assumption, when the married man involved also pursued another female junior partner, is hilariously short-sighted. Good luck in life.

How does him approaching another woman at the firm negate any possibility that she slept with him in order to advance her own career?

[–]WuhanWTF 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

a screaming deathmatch where she grew three tails a day and ate babies on the stand.

yikes

[–]halifaxdatageek 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seriously, search "Pao" and read the results you get in some threads. Troubling.

[–]mspk7305 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Essentially that she was an "unlikable bitch" and that she believed that she was owed more than her merits indicated. She closed one deal, then decided she was the god of venture capital.

This is all according to the NPR coverage at the time. I believe that one deal she closed is how she became CEO of reddit. If that's the case, she didn't earn it, she bought the position with other's money.

[–]LKJ55 19ポイント20ポイント  (16子コメント)

What's a Ponzi Scheme?

[–]Gusfoo 60ポイント61ポイント  (6子コメント)

What's a Ponzi Scheme?

Named after Charles Ponzi, a Ponzi scheme is where one offers incredible returns on investments to tempt investors in. The old investors get their returns on "investment" by the scheme operator taking the new investors money and using it to pay them. This continues until there are no new investors or people start to request their initial investment back. At which point things collapse.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme for more.

[–]LKJ55 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

thanks.

[–]Mr_Strangelove_MSc 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's what Bernie Madoff did, btw.

[–]ooax 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

..or close to every western public pension scheme.

[–]potato1 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's not even close to the same.

[–]ooax 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm curious.

[–]potato1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

A public pension uses incoming payments from today's workers to pay today's pensioners directly. There's no "principal" money that the pensioners can demand back. A Ponzi scheme collapses when people start asking for the principal back.

[–]squaredrooted 20ポイント21ポイント  (6子コメント)

Someone convinces you to give your money to a group that will invest for you and give you great and almost impossible returns on your money. You happily agree, as do many others.

Do that for a bunch of people and collective many money.

When people absolutely want out after trying to convince them not to, the money returned to them is taken from the big collection of many money.

Let's say your money appears to have a 300% return now and you decide you want out. After much attempts to convince you otherwise, you get your money and you're out. The group takes a slight hit from their money collection, but can still survive.

But if everyone follows suit and wants out and expects their 300%+ returns, the scheme is exposed and collapses because none of those returns were real.

At least that's how I think it goes.

[–]randomb0y 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Having seen my parents lose money in a pyramid scheme I can confirm that this is how it goes.

[–]mytoysgoboom 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

Ponzi schemes and pyramid schemes are different. I assume you meant lost money in a Ponzi scheme?

[–]MegaAlex 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

They look a bit the same to me.

Edit: maybe it's the scheme part that are similar

[–]AWildSegFaultAppears 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

They are kind of similar. Ponzi schemes are pretend gains that are paid out of the common pool and work as long as very few people pull their money out. The money that comes in comes from new investors, not from actual investment gains. Pyramid schemes work like this. You start the scheme. You tell 10 friends that if they join, they can recruit others. They will get a share of the profits of the people that they recruit, those people in turn get a profits of the people they recruit, keep going until there are no more people to recruit.

They to look similar because they are all an active recruiting thing, but in the Ponzi scheme, your gains aren't tied to your recruitment and the recruitment of the people below you in the chain.

[–]mytoysgoboom 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

They are similar but have different methods of operation in terms of how they result in income for the folks on the top.

but yes, at a very basic level, the pyramid scheme is a scam that results in unrealistic promises of income to participants similar to a ponzi scheme and they both fall apart when income is no longer coming in the front fast enough to keep people paid.

[–]ArttuH5N1 15ポイント16ポイント  (6子コメント)

“it’s not our site’s goal to be a completely free-speech platform. We want to be a safe platform and we want to be a platform that also protects privacy at the same time.”

To me, this seems reasonable. Why is this a great issue to a lot of people? Is it because people want this to be "completely free" and it's not in-line with what the CEO is aiming for (or even with the reality as of now and before)?

[–]BasicLiftingService 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

People who can't spew their racism and misogyny at school or work have found a platform in reddit. The site has morphed into a safe zone for antisocial and backwards views over the last few years. Dog whistle racism has given way to overt racism in the comments sections of many default subs. The outrage we're currently seeing is that subset of redditors who use reddit to air these views, relatively without reproach and with no consequence.

You don't have to be a SJW to not want to see some klan-status shit in every other front page comment section, and in any other platform (besides 4chan) it would have been stopped a long time ago. Stormfront is actively recruiting here. TRP, coontown, gamer gate, r/european, dark enlightenment, etc.

TLDR: There's a subset of redditors that use reddit to circle jerk about hating blacks, other minorities, and women. They don't want reasonable discussion, they want a platform to spew racism and sexism in relative safety and they hide behind the 1st Amendment to make their motives seen anything less then vile.

[–]WheelyBob 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think you tend to read deeper into the comments then I do. The main stuff I see on front page comments are pun threads, the switcharoo and something about 'Merica

[–]timepants 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Where else can you bully overweight people online and have people pat you on the back for it?

[–]Gen_McMuster 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

The thing is. Each sub exists in it's own little bubble. So reddit admins usually only act on cross sub "brigading." This statement suggests that the main site admins could start moderating subs actively without the consent of the communities therein. You can extrapolate the effects from there

[–]notdrunkinflorida 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think when we look back on the smoldering wreckage of Reddit these "bubbles" are going to be the agreed upon point where they fucked up. If you partition like-minded people and encourage circle-jerking bad things happen, online and off.

Another massive fuck up is letting warlords run these things, if you go into /r/fatpeoplehate and politely disagree with hating fat people (or with anything) you're "benned" in two seconds. Why the original admins, who seem like such intelligent, forward-thinking people, instituted such a totalitarian political system is fucking baffling.

Now they're trying to fix the problems by doubling down on totalitarianism and it ain't gonna work.

[–]alvtminghui 6ポイント7ポイント  (7子コメント)

Is there a subreddit that is dedicated to discussion about Reddit itself?

[–]Gusfoo 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes, /r/TheoryOfReddit is a serious sub dedicated to discussing trends and their causes.

[–]ArttuH5N1 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not very good though. Pretty bitter in my opinion. Maybe once a week there's something interesting, but other than that...

[–]Werner__Herzog 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

/r/TheoryOfReddit, /r/SubredditDrama, /r/OutOfTheLoop, /r/OutOfTheMetaLoop and many others are subs to discuss reddit in a way.

[–]ArtSchnurple 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sometimes I feel like there are more subs about reddit than there are subs about everything else.

[–]Werner__Herzog 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Heh, that's a little bit of a strech. Check out /r/wowthissubexists or /r/serendipity or /r/multihub to find a lot of things not about reddit. Admittedly those subs themselves are about reddit, too. So I'm not really countering you point with linking them...

[–]AnonymousInAtl 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

+1 for summarizing all the issues with Ellen Pao without turning it into a super long tirade full of tl;dr.

[–]nicotah 20ポイント21ポイント  (28子コメント)

I can understand why she is hated for her failed scam lawsuit and the way she was appointed CEO. But her comments on free-speech are clumsy at worse. I mean reddit has rules, moderators to enforce them. Let's face it, Reddit is not a completly free-speech platform.

[–]DrProbably 19ポイント20ポイント  (22子コメント)

Sure but she was referring to shutting down subs that didn't break any rules or laws, just had very unpopular opinions.

[–]DrummerBoy2999 6ポイント7ポイント  (20子コメント)

Honestly this is a really bad way to run a website, I wouldn't exactly say subs like redpill and fatpeoplehate are just unpopular opinions.

[–]abdada 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unpopular?

They are incredibly popular opinions. It just took awhile for people to admit it.

[–]Captinfucker 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I wouldn't exactly say subs like redpill and fatpeoplehate are just unpopular opinions

Except that's what they are. People with opinions that you personally don't like. People are allowed to think and talk about whatever they want, even if it upsets you.

[–]Flex-O 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes they are, but reddit doesn't have to let them do it on their website. Anyone anyone who disagress with that is free to not go on reddit. Freedom! What a concept!

[–]scriptingsoul 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

What the fuck are you talking about? She literally says the opposite in her NPR interview.

If a JewishRedditor looked at a subreddit called, very offensively, "Gas The Kikes" and said it makes them feel unsafe to participate, would you take down that subreddit?

The question is whether it would make them fear for their safety, or the safety of those around them or where it makes them feel like it's not a safe platform. Somebody expressing ideas that aren't consistent with everybody's views is something that we encourage. 

[–]Chairman__PaoThe People's CEO 31ポイント32ポイント  (1子コメント)

THESE THINGS ARE ALL EXAGGERATED AND WRONG. PLEASE MOVE ON TO ANOTHER SUBREDDIT AND TAKE YOUR FREE-SPEECHING WITH YOU. THIS SUB HAS BEEN SCHEDULED FOR ROUTINE PURGING AND RE-EDUCATION.

[–]notdrunkinflorida 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

You forgot somebody was deleting and shadowbanning people who were critical of her or her husband, that's what really kicked this off.

[–]NanoGeek 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Source? I see a lot of people making this claim, but never any actual evidence.

[–]pbugg2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well I think Ponzi schemes are great!

[–]kankaswag 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

im suprised she hasnt sent people here to delete this and shadowban you

[–]AWildSegFaultAppears -1ポイント0ポイント  (7子コメント)

To add to this. The mass deletion of anything critical of her or her husband directly after her appointment.

[–]CressCrowbits 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

Which is completely untrue.

See: this thread.

[–]MaserPhaser 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

directly after her appointment.

You missed something.

[–]Gen_McMuster 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

On main subs. Particularly on admin announcement posts

[–]Captinfucker 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah people don't seem to realize /r/outoftheloop is a pretty small sub in the scheme of things.

[–]polyethylene2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

200,000 vs subs with over millions of subs (of course, most of these are defaults)

[–]automatedresponse -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

No wonder reddit is turning into shit. haha

[–]JJTheJetPlane5657 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Her sexual discrimination lawsuit against former employer the venture capital firm Kleiner Perkins. She lost and a lot of negative things came out about her from the lawsuit.

What negative things? The article didn't really describe anything that was negative about her, other than that some of the jurors found her "likability" lacking..

[–]Psyladine 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

She purposefully collected emails during her employment after consulting with a discrimination law lawyer, while omitting emails of her own. So she'd send inciting messages, but only keep the responses. She took every other person's promotion as a specific denigration to herself, and alienated her colleagues then claimed they discriminated against her.

She did everything in her power to make the strongest case possible for a woman thrown under the bus because of her gender, when it wasn't the case; she was just a mediocre bully.

Also her maximum award from the case coincided with the amount her husband was ultimately facing for his ponzi scheme.

Also the judge ruled everything regarding her and her husband's SEC investigation, his history of discrimination suits against former employers and her obvious financial motive in pursuing the case were inadmissible evidence.

[–]Captinfucker 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well she admitted in an interview that, "I’m not that likeable and I’m a poor performer."

This is something that came out in the trial. She said not promoting her was discrimination, but her boss said it was because of poor performance. By her own words he was right, she was a poor worker and didn't get along with others.

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            [–]OnSpeakerCrab 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Buddy Fletcher, husband of Reddit CEO Ellen Pao, is being described as being the operator of Ponzi scheme ~144 million dollars of a pension fund was lost Ellen Pao is now accused of frivolous lawsuits to try and stay afloat and some other shit. Seeing as she is a CEO of a large company and has a fraudster for a husband I think it's safe to say we have a textbook ASPD/Sociopath on our hands.

            [–]ilovecreamsodaKnowledgeable 11ポイント12ポイント  (41子コメント)

            to quote myself:

            Ellen Pao claimed in an interview that "Reddit isn't interested in freedom of speech" 1 2 3 or something along those lines. There was a post made by Alexis Ohanian (/u/kn0thing) that said that Reddit was going to enact censorship policies to create 'safe spaces' that were held to be more important than freedom of speech. For a long time, there has been a lot of distrust in the admins of Reddit and moderators of various subreddits censoring posts that they do not agree with for one reason or another. There is an entire list of communities dedicated to documenting this censorship such as /r/redditcensorship and /r/undelete. So, it is not shocking to some people that /u/ejkp (Ellen Pao) has also admitted to screening Reddit employees for political views that align with her own.

            "We ask people what they think about diversity, and we did weed people out because of that”

            In other words, she wants to turn Reddit into a feminist hivemind.

            In short, there is a LOT of distrust (imho rightfully so) of Pao and the other admins, and Pao has done nothing except throw more fuel on the fire.

            Edit: There is going to be a point where they cannot put the fire out anymore. I'm not sure if it has reached that point yet, but the amount of outright distrust in those that run Reddit is such that its causing people to want to see Reddit burn, much like Digg.

            Imho, right now they could make moves to de-escalate things by backing off of the social-justice-esque rhetoric and it might do a lot of good. Sure, there are subreddits that are nasty, but in order to have true free speech, you must tolerate them as they must tolerate you. The moment you crack down on them, you harm everyone's ability to speak freely.

            edit: added some links

            Edit, posting another comment here:

            The US Justice System has concluded that hate speech is protected under the first amendment. Like it or not, it exists and while Reddit is ran by a private company, you cannot censor it outright. Its hypocritical of them to do so. You cannot on one hand stand up for freedom of speech in standing against Sopa and Pipa , then stand for net neutrality, after which you then stand and say Every Person is Responsible for Their Own Soul where you say

            "We will not ban questionable subreddits"

            ... to only go and then say,

            Reddit isn't interested in being a free speech platform

            Its hypocritical and its unwanted by many, if not most people on reddit. Aaron Swartz is rolling in his grave over this, im sure. Imho, /u/kn0thing and /u/ejkp have betrayed the Reddit community and Aaron.

            edit: added a quote, links and some other stuff to back my argument up.

            https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/36w9fy/what_is_happening_to_reddit_and_why_are_people/

            [–]Toby_O_Notoby 107ポイント108ポイント  (7子コメント)

            You know, considering you've posted this twice, you could at least get the quote right. She never said "Reddit isn't interested in freedom of speech" she said:

            "It's not our site's goal to be a completely free-speech platform. We want to be a safe platform and we want to be a platform that also protects privacy at the same time." and before that specifically says: "Somebody expressing ideas that aren't consistent with everybody's views is something that we encourage."

            Like it or not, it exists and while Reddit is ran by a private company, you cannot censor it outright.

            Um, sure you can. Go into your office tomorrow and start yelling racial epithets and see how long you last.

            EDIT: Fucking autocorrect.

            [–]halifaxdatageek 33ポイント34ポイント  (0子コメント)

            As soon as I read "or something like that" my brain substituted in "I made that shit up, because I know most people aren't going to fact-check me."

            [–]Schmidtzy 27ポイント28ポイント  (8子コメント)

            Private companies can censor free speech as much as they want. The first amendment applies only to the government censoring you. I'm not saying they should but people who think the 1st applies to private companies are idiots.

            [–]ooax 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I think those statements are meant to refer to amendments as ethnical stances instead of applicable constitutional law. It might not be applicable on this situation but in principle you can address this on a legislative level: for ex. in Germany we do have a gesture we call "Drittwirkung der Grundrechte". It describes the influence of certain constitutional rights on private law.

            [–]acratus 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Except nobody actually says that; that's a mischaracterization. Saying you're against censorship is not the same as saying I have the government-guaranteed right to say what I want on your platform.

            [–]kapanyanyimonyok 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Private companies can censor free speech add much as they want.

            Of course they can, it's just that customers (redditors) don't have to like it.

            [–]MrFatalistic 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            they can by law, doesn't make it right.

            [–]TheJimOfDoom 49ポイント50ポイント  (2子コメント)

            "We ask people what they think about diversity, and we did weed people out because of that”
            

            In other words, she wants to turn Reddit into a feminist hivemind.

            That's a bit of a leap, don't you think?

            [–]neonKow 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Well, I'm pretty sure the parent post is written by someone with severe bias based on the rest of the comment.

            If I were running a site with sub-forums that often represent opposing camps on inflammatory topics, I sure would be looking for hires who value diversity.

            [–]exaltedgod 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I thought of that as well. Diversity means a lot of different things to different people. To say that asking someone this question is politically based is a bit of a stretch if not outright misleading.

            [–]Throtex 22ポイント23ポイント  (5子コメント)

            Ellen Pao claimed in an interview that "Reddit isn't interested in freedom of speech" 1[1] 2[2] 3[3] or something along those lines.

            So what do you want Reddit to be? 4chan? There are plenty of outlets for distasteful speech.

            [–]phunphun 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

            Even 4chan has started a no-tolerance policy with stricter rules than before. It's easier to flamebait/abuse/troll on reddit now than on 4chan.

            Complaining about 4chan (its policies, moderation, etc) on the imageboards may result in post deletion and a ban.

            If reddit instated this rule, people would be up in arms.

            [–]ooax 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Keep in mind that there are huge conceptional differences between Reddit and 4chan. The idea that everything will erode because they decide not to restrict the discussion seems like a stretch to me.

            [–]shithandle 52ポイント53ポイント  (1子コメント)

            feminist hivemind

            Lol

            [–]ThatOneChappy 32ポイント33ポイント  (6子コメント)

            TIL being against free speech = feminist.

            Really?

            [–]Coziestpigeon2 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

            "We ask people what they think about diversity, and we did weed people out because of that” In other words, she wants to turn Reddit into a feminist hivemind.

            I was with you right up until this - when you stopped acting like a grownup and started acting like a redditor.

            Still upvoted you, because you brought forward good information with some sourcing.

            [–]van_Zeller 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Your takeaway from "we search for people who value diversity" is "we want to make a hivemind?" Those two are literally antonyms.

            [–]CressCrowbits 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

            OP: A lot of Redditors also hate her because of the rampant sexism on this site and irrational hatred of what they label 'SJW' types. For evidence of this - see the kind of stuff upvoted and downvoted on this thread. It's very difficult to have rational conversations about subjects like this when you have people like that who feel they have to control the conversation.

            EDIT: See?

            [–]ostiedetabarnac 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

            The irony is delectable, though, that you're complaining about lack of free forum, when that is part of what many find wrong with reddit's CEO. I'm not on the crazy train with them for the other slippery slope stuff.

            [–]CressCrowbits -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Not really ironic. Trying to make reddit a less hostile place to vast swathes if its potential audience by cutting down on things like homophobia and racism are quite different to people breaking the premises of reddit to dominate the narrative to a very fixed view, facts be damned.

            [–]ostiedetabarnac 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

            So it's wrong when redditors control the conversation, and right when the CEO does it? If they wanted to censor discrimination they've done an awful job of it, I can think of a dozen racist or homophobic subreddits right now. I don't think that's what they were doing, and the vagueness of official posts makes it even harder to tell.

            [–]sanfranidiot 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            The main subreddits for discussion about social justice issues are ironically some of the most heavily censored, hostile, and racist subreddits.

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