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Full-time trolls are shilling hard against the block size increase. Just saying. (self.Bitcoin)

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[–]puntinbitcher 24ポイント25ポイント  (6子コメント)

I'm not opposed to block size increases, but this practice of accusing anyone who disagrees with you of being a "shill" is really getting on my nerves.

[–]xbtdev 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep, both sides are just as accurate:

Full-time trolls are shilling hard for the block size increase. Just saying.

Case in point: This very thread.

[–]satoshinakamotorola 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

The problem is that there really are some shills on here, and anonymity is allowing that sort of noise to become loud and often indiscernible from the rational and constructive talkers.

[–]kinoshitajona 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

anonymity is allowing that sort of noise to become loud

Why doesn't reddit require selfie + ID pics and SSNs and addresses with utility bills and whatnot and require that all of us use our real names?

Seriously, it's detrimental to society to have such anonymity.

/s

[–]tommitomm 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

If i own, lets say 10 bitcoin in my offline wallet. Do i have to do something to keep them on the blockchain or is it automatic? I dont understand anything of this fork, blocksize shit.. I just want to know if my bitcoins are safe and still valid without me doin anything during these times.

[–]SakuraWaifuFetish[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You don't need to do anything. If a fork happens, your coins will be on both chains.

[–]donotshitme 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

the fork would only likely effect coins mined after the fork. but if 90% of miners and nodes are past the fork the code switches over.

[–]puntinbitcher 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The proposed fork would not require any changes to existing wallets. Even the types of changes that make older wallet software obsolete don't invalidate coins. As long as you have the private keys to your wallet addresses you will be able to import them into wallet software that works with future Bitcoin forks. As I understand it only miners and exchanges would need to worry about compatibility in this case.

[–]federal_reserve_cock 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

OP is insane and is one of the many sockpuppets of /u/BigMoneyGuy, who has an unhealthy obsession with "paid trolls".

[–]donotshitme 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

aren't you one of the people that fights with him all the time?

[–]SakuraWaifuFetish[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

And you are /u/Based_Gandhi, who has an obsession with anyone who calls out the trolls, and you love to spend your days attacking Bitcoin and its users. You stopped posting with that account 1 month ago, and this new account you have is 1 month old. Coincidence? Or paid troll?

[–]markcoll 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

My only problem with all this is the possible divergence into Bitcoin and Bitcoin-XT as different networks. I'm for progress, but if Bitcoin forks into Bitcoin and 20MGCoin I want Bitcoin.

Edit: If not enough people join 20MGCoin and we fork into Bitcoin and 20MGCoin, I want Bitcoin*

[–]fast5alive 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

proof?

[–]federal_reserve_cock -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Found the paid government troll, guys.

[–]MineForeman 3ポイント4ポイント  (8子コメント)

Is it offsetting the people who make decisions based on the popularity of the person proposing it?

[–]satoshinakamotorola -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for the heads-up, SakuraWaifuFetish.

[–]KeavesSharpi 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

How would a block size increase affect existing mining hardware?

[–]Bitcoinopoly 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Some small number of nodes would need to upgrade their hard disk and RAM. Some nodes wouldn't be able to keep up due to data capping from their ISP, and a very small number wouldn't have the bandwidth to keep up. The upgrades would be very cheap as 1TB of storage space is $25 and a RAM upgrade would cost a similar amount. It really doesn't take much power or space even at 20MB, but the data cap might be a killer for some nodes. It is likely that the vast majority of nodes would have no problem even with full blocks.

What everybody should consider is that node operators usually have good broadband internet and lots of spare computer parts sitting around. These nodes are not being operated out of small villages in Nigeria and Thailand, but, for the most part, they are operated by individuals living in 1st World countries who do computing as a hobby. Most of them probably have an old 1TB drive just sitting around on a shelf somewhere. We will see some nodes go offline, but it will only be a small fraction and not anything to worry about in terms of centralization.

A much bigger problem would be if some amazing new app came out this month and we suddenly had 5 million people wanting to use the blockchain. If we wait until that point and try to play catch up by deploying the block size increase at the same time, the result could be 5 million people all over the world simultaneously talking to their friends and family about the unreliability of bitcoin. That would be a complete nightmare that we could avoid if we did the 20MB increase now.

[–]rydan 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I pay $0.10 per GB per month for disk space per server. The current blockchain costs a few bucks per month. 1TB would be $100 per month. And that doesn't count bandwidth.

[–]jstolfi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If a surge of demand came up this month, it would be a PR disaster anyway. If there is a minimal consensus to increase the limit, the code will be deployed soon, but the increase will be programmed to be effective only many months from now. (At first it would be after some specific block number to be mined in Q4/2016, but now there is talk of triggering the change by some complicated method, based on adoption of the new code by miners.)

[–]rydan -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

You know a master troll would know you wouldn't trust them and tell you exactly what the correct choice would be so you don't take take it.

It appears to be working too: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/383sl3/one_reason_to_support_increasing_the_block_size/

[–]BTCisGod -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

For reference: 21MB!! and goodbye to some core devs submitted by /u/bobbythorony