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A conspiracy on /r/conspiracy: Does a single moderator of /r/conspiracy openly believe a controlled demolition brought down WTC7? Is this a conspiracy at all? (self.conspiracy)

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We know flytape thinks the Saudis did it, therefore I feel no need to include that moderator in the discussion.

Does anyone want to share their thoughts on WTC7?

*This is not meant as an attack on any moderator in particular. This is meant to understand certain things about those we put our trust in to run this subreddit in a proper manner.

peace and love

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[–]Mae-Brussell-Hustler 3ポイント4ポイント  (9子コメント)

Are you trapped in some mod melodrama?

Don't like it here?

Your great posts getting censored?

Your ability to comment & post is being stifled?

Who is running anything?

It's entertainment and information.

[–]one23four5six78nine [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Why does it matter if he asks?

[–]Mae-Brussell-Hustler [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

He is a hypocrite. He wants control. He is melodramatic and clearly has a hidden agenda.

Not my first time at the toe rodeo.

He blew a gasket over a post I made about a rocknroll death/obit, and proceeded to post ridiculous drivel.

Is he asking you to explain you WTC views? Complaining about you not being a mod?

[–]one23four5six78nine [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

I remember that fiasco. I tried to be neutral because I'm not around here enough to know if it is weird or not that non conspiracy stuff is posted. I don't think it is a huge issue, I think that r/conspiracy is kind of turning into a "hangout" which is a nice thing. It is kind a safe spot for people to just interact on whatever they think is worth talking about, and if the community thinks it's junk they can down vote it.

I don't think that toe is doing it to be a douche though, I think it's important that members of /conspiracy ought to be as dedicated to finding conspiracies inside our sub as they are to finding them outside of the sub. We'd be naive to think this place is insulated from its own shinanigans. Maybe Toe is doing what he thinks is best, the community might not agree, but it probably isn't best handled by turning it personal. I think that's were everything gets derailed. We as people are very quick to go on the defensive, myself included, when our OC line of conspiracy thought gets holes poked in it and challenged. Maybe just give Toe the benefit of the doubt. We should all just be giving each other the benefit of the doubt, it's a powerful favor we can all do for each other and it will really help original ideas flow freer.

Thanks for listening.

Signed,

Toes alt account.

Jk

[–]thefuckingtoe[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Does anyone want to share their thoughts on WTC7?

I believe you aren't a mod (your name is not on the mod list) yet you also didn't answer the simple question this post is about.

What are your feelings on WTC7? Share them.

[–]Mae-Brussell-Hustler [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I think Barry Jennings was an eyewitness, I defer to his account on that day.

People were told to back away, as it was going to collapse.

The building was mostly evacuated.

It fell in its own footprint. Danny Jowenko video is a nice take on the collapse.

The building contained extremely important offices. I cannot speak to demolitions. Traditional demo takes pre-planning & det cord installation. However, current available technology may far exceeds popular understanding.

[–]thefuckingtoe[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I cannot speak to demolitions.

Why? You aren't a mod, so it isn't a big deal.

[–]Putin_loves_cats [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

The question is... Does it matter and do we want an echo chamber? I really do not care if the mods believe in what I think is possible about the Flavian's and Christianity, as long as they are cool with me posting it.

What I do care about is whether they are free from their bias in their voluntary job and allow even the most fringe (ie. goes against what they believe/think). I really wouldn't want a mod who believes exactly what we all think. That could end up being a very bad place. The conspiracy theory crowd are all dispersed on many different beliefs/thoughts.

The point is, they need to be neutral and honestly, I do not care what their personal beliefs are as long as they allow open conversation and enforce the rules. Why does it matter if the mods believe the Saudis did it or if it was a Mossad/CIA job? They are not forcing people into a box, we all can discuss what we think (as long as you're not an ass and break the rules) and the mods are behind the screen just moderating.

[–]one23four5six78nine [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

Isn't it kind of a fair question? Wouldnt it be odd if majority of the mods of /r/christianity were athiest? Or if the mods of /r/guns were anti gun? Or if the mods of r/restoretheforth were actually anti 4th amendment or the mods of r/.... you see what I mean?

It's not that any of the mods have to be 9/11 truthers, or building 7 cheerleaders, but it seems to be a fair question to ask where they land on an issue that's kind of fundamental to r/conspiracy.

[–]sheasie [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

it seems to be a fair question

the only fair question to ask: Are they modding fairly?

[–]one23four5six78nine [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I agree with you, that is the most important thing. Would you agree this sub is more personal than others? Like mods are more willing to interact and be part of the crowd? I don't think it is unfair to ask them to share their views on what's arguably the biggest of conspiracies.

[–]Putin_loves_cats [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This, exactly.

[–]thefuckingtoe[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

http://www.np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2kol78/james_corbett_host_of_the_corbett_report_creator/clndesi

You are one of my favorite commenters on this sub. Read those comments with an open mind, considering who is defending whom.

peace and love

[–]Putin_loves_cats [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I get what you are saying, but, if they are not neutral, that leads to censorship. As long as they allow free speech, I'm cool. If flytape thinks the Saudis did it, yet still allows post about the Mossad/CIA connection, I'm cool. Not singling him out, just saying. Maybe he/they could learn something from the free flow of info. This is how ideas are spread and knowledge is learned. As long as they are neutral and allow the free flow of info (if you're not breaking the rules), I'm cool and do not care what they believe in personally. Will I discuss with them and debate? Of course, which is how it should be.

[–]one23four5six78nine [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

100% on board and in agreement with everything you just wrote.

I think (and I'm giving toe the benefit of the doubt) that this post was to open up discussion and hopefully not to have a mod post their view and then attack them for it.

[–]fredstopp 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

who cares what the mods believe - as long as they mod effectively.

[–]thefuckingtoe[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I will take this down if a moderator believes this is attacking their moderation.

I think we should open up a dialogue.