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[–]Hedo_Turkoglu 55ポイント56ポイント  (14子コメント)

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/r/circlejerkaustralia as far I can tell is not exclusively a sub for right wingers. It's for the people who are aware of the terrible state that /r/australia is in to take the piss. It's like saying /r/circlejerk is full of christian fundies because they make fun of redditors like those found in /r/atheism frequently.

I haven't bothered with /r/Australia for months. That place is toxic.

[–]EdwardFord 14ポイント15ポイント  (5子コメント)

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I'll take this opportunity to plug /r/australian, I'm trying to reboot it.

[–]mach-2ARISE CHIKUN!! 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

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With more CGI and expolsions?

[–]EdwardFord 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

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The Abbott conspiracy posts have been replaced with walkie talkies

[–]SIR_VELOCIRAPTOR 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

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Whats wrong with /r/Australia & /r/circlejerkaustralia ?

Which one should I be sub'd to? I don't care for politics on reddit, (I feel most times they're extreemist/bait, left or right). I just want the occasional article/joke/video (like this)

[–]Majorbookworm 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

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If you don't want politics, neither. /r/Australia is obsessed with politics to the point of absurdity, and /r/circlejerkaustralia is there to make fun of that by going in the opposite direction ideologically. Thus, both are pretty shit.

[–]SIR_VELOCIRAPTOR 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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I'd be in /r/straya if that place wasn't just general shit.

[–]Pocahontas_SpacemanThe lovechild of Ann Coulter and Lew Rockwell 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

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I know basically nothing about Australia or their political climate, but everything I do know, I learned from /r/circlejerkaustralia

things like Tony Abbot created ISIS

[–]Zafara1 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

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You see, I love /r/Australia. But I only like it for the non-politics related posts. When one comes around like the bloke on his bike with a mate of the back carrying a slab of VB that's golden. Or the recent bloke in a ute who got nabbed by coppers for a reckless u-e.

I wish that's what the sub was, more about the country and the people rather than just a constant stream of politics and hate.

[–]MatlockMan[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

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/r/circlejerkaustralia as far I can tell is not exclusively a sub for right wingers.

There are a large number of them, many have been banned from /r/australia by previous mods (which is pretty poor form).

I haven't bothered with /r/Australia for months. That place is toxic.

I'm left-of-centre and Australian, so I can stand it, but it can get a liiittle OTT (the conspiracy theories relating to the latest terror raids were off-the-charts crazy).

[–]SavannaJeff 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

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I'm a card-carrying Greens member (pay the membership dues and everything), but /r/australia really is a cess-pit. It's not just the conspiracy theories, it's that if you criticize the left you get downvoted, if you say any single aspect of the right's actions is maybe not so bad, you get downvoted. You can justify your position as much as you like, you can source everything, you'll still get downvoted.

There's no discussion, there's just regurgitating and swallowing up the same bullshit over and over again, masticating in some kind of bizarre self-satisfaction of a job well done and action being taken.

[–]aussielander 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

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wat? You don't enjoy the 12 virtually identical links about why Abbott sucks today, posted every fucken day?

[–]Kar98 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

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The birther thing really got on my nerves :/

[–]threehundredthousandDown with OPP 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Assemble an army of drop bears and take it by force.

[–]NotThatDoug 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Saying r/Australia is left leaning is like saying pcmasterrace kinda likes GabeN.

[–]mubd1234 35ポイント36ポイント  (15子コメント)

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I'm a leftie who frequents /r/circlejerkaustralia purely because I hate the ridiculous hive mind in /r/australia. Comments which say that democracy doesn't work and revolution is the only answer, advocating murdering the Prime Minister and other Liberal high ups, etc. all get upvoted to the top. Anything further to the right than the Greens is downvoted to hell. It's disgracefully hypocritical, these people who defend this tactical upvoting as democracy and an actual election actually not being democratic. I'm glad there's a mod change.

[–]ThunderCuntAU 12ポイント13ポイント  (10子コメント)

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I'm glad there's a mod change.

Then you're seriously, seriously overestimating how much mods can set the tone of the sub without heavy-handed moderating, a la askscience and askhistorians.

[–]spicyfrog 8ポイント9ポイント  (9子コメント)

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How about banning people like this?, I've reported this user half a dozen times or more for comments that wish death on politicians etc.

I am frequently reporting several power users for overstepping the boundaries between civil discussion and mindless personal attacks. /u/tothebillyoh comes to mind. Their posts may get removed (or not, frequently not) but the user is in another thread in minutes poisoning the well yet again.

If anyone dares bring it up moderation policies with your lot you could count on good ol Dredd to shut them down pretty much immediately.

As OP says I'm pretty glad there has been a change too.

[–]ThunderCuntAU 9ポイント10ポイント  (8子コメント)

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Generally we only issues temporary bans (and meanly worded personal messages), so if a user is banned, you're really not likely to notice them unless you're actively watching their account. TTBO has been temporarily banned at least twice (if not more), and warned a few more times so that's probably a bad example to pick.

Beyond that though, on what grounds are you really going to ban someone for suggesting a particular politician is a piece of treacherous scum? It's a shit post - I agree - but the recourse here is a downvote for failure to add to discussion rather than a ban for being mean. If you're wondering why a particular action was taken, you can always message the mods. We can (and do) ban for death threats against politicians -- I can tell you first hand I've got woeful death threats of my own for enforcing it.

[–]spicyfrog 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

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I'll say I think you have a tough job, and you do it in your spare time, time which could be spent doing other things, which is admirable. My issue is that when the top comment here, given gold multiple times, basically calls out /r/Australia as being a pretty toxic subreddit you know you have an image problem.

The level and vitriol in discussion drives people away, it distills the userbase even further in to group think and leaves little of value since you have no diversity of opinion or interests. The people that post on /r/Australia are predominately interested in politics, one particular ideological view of it, and content that could interest other users related to national sports leagues, events, concerts etc just gets trashed in the new cue and comments left like "Soundwave if full of roid munching deadshits, why don't you listen to some good music like Mumford and Sons?!". The subreddit is not a place to learn about things that may interest Australian redditors, but to blow off steam about the currently Liberal government.

With regards to the comment I posted I guess my point is that, it adds nothing, at all, therefore removing it also removes nothing. Removing it and others like it sends the message that the bar for entry in to the comment section has to be raised, that is my issue.

I wasn't aware that TTBO has received multiple temporary bans, his ubiquitous presence in nearly every thread I find skews perception I suppose, however if he's received multiple bans and still refuses to reform it does beg the question, what should you do about said user. MedowbankMujahideen, CULL_THE_SHARKS and others have been permanently banned.

[–]ThunderCuntAU 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

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you know you have an image problem.

I think you'll find most mods have a pretty keen interested in the state of the sub, and are generally always looking for ways to improve it. Most of the time we do this is by creating new ways to foster discussion on a diverse range of content, e.g. we actually spend our spare time looking for popular people to do AMAs, we brainstorm popular topic themes to encourage non-political content, we've nixed political self posts, we've created a custom flairs so that we draw more attention to non-political content that we find cool, and we recommend those only there pushing an agenda find their way to one of the political subs.

Funnily enough, if you look at the exact top comment on the /r/aus pic of that same topic, you'd find an identical comment calling out the shitposters gilded multiple times. I'm not really sure what it tells you precisely, except that there are definitely more opinions than assholes in the sub (and that's a good thing). [Here](www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/2goyqt/asio_and_hundreds_of_police_raid_sydney_and/) is the thread for reference. The post I'm talking about was gilded more times than the worldnews comment.

... removing it also removes nothing.

At some point, you need to ground your mod actions in rules so that we're all moving in unison. Again, I'd consider that a pretty shit post - just not one that requires mod intervention. We trialled removing posts like "Joe Hockey is a fat fuck that had lapband surgery" and were met with disdain from the usual suspects crowing of "censorship" and "thought police". How can we win in this scenario when a user likes you wants our rules to be more reflective of the academic political subreddits vs those that cry censorship at any sort of moderator action, and how does that get us any closer to being a national subreddit that just likes to shoot the shit about Australian content?

I wasn't aware that TTBO...

That's sort of my point. You'll generally have no idea who is banned for what unless they pop up on circlejerkaustralia or openaustralia to complain and/or boast about it.

... what should you do about said user. MedowbankMujahideen, CULL_THE_SHARKS and others have been permanently banned.

MM was banned & shadowbanned for doxing. CTS isn't permabanned at all: here he is posting a day ago. Now while I am not averse to the notion of permabans, you do have to toss up if it's worth doing it for long-term redditors. My general experience is that they just create another account in about thirty seconds and go back to doing what they're doing. In the case of TTBO, while he still posts many things I personally find outrageous, again: posting disagreeable, outright lunacy about politics isn't a bannable offense. The recourse here is to have a switched on userbase that downvotes shit posts. That's it.

With that said, more than half of your gripe here is about things that moderators literally have no control over. We can encourage and curate content; we don't directly control what heads to the front page and we're not going to outright ban or restrict politics without the support of the userbase. The sort of curation you're asking for here is what I suggested in my first post: the sort of heavy-handed moderation we see in academic-based subs. While not a bad suggestion, you've gotta get the userbase onboard for it to work.

[–]OptimalCynic -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

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and were met with disdain from the usual suspects crowing of "censorship" and "thought police".

Sounds like a good opportunity to ignore them, personally.

[–]ExogenBreach -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

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And yet /u/thomasfromcdnjs in that thread explained perfectly well why we are absolutely right to strongly question the actions of our government.

Why is not going along with the anti-ISIS circlejerk and giving away our freedoms an "image problem"? An image problem among people who don't live here and have no clue?

[–]MatlockMan[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

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Comments which say that democracy doesn't work

I read a lot of /r/australia - haven't been posting too much - but I've never seen this.

I do agree with the downvoting though - it's beyond ridiculous most of the time.

[–]spicyfrog 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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There are plenty of these comments actually, I report them frequently and they get removed but the users never get banned.

[–]sennais1 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

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I'm a leftie

Had me fooled.

[–]aussiefreedom -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Yeah I'm a left leaning libertarian, so this last weeks terrorism stuff has been an absolute gold mine of entertainment. Watching r/Australia complaining that our rights and freedoms are under attack has been like watching gina rinehart complain about greed and proper working conditions.

[–]leathercollar 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

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This didn't take long at all for this to be added here. Drama is still unfolding on the thread. EDIT 1: Several of the mods now being down voted with the lack of explanation. Edit 2: The slap fighting between left and right wingers have already started. Edit 3: Conspiracy theories all around.

[–]nc_og 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Everyone wants CJAustralia to be a grand right wing political statement and not making fun of all the idiots on r/australia

Lol probably better mods tbqh

[–]henry82 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

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Problem is reddit is full of left wing supporters, which drown out any valid right wing opinion. Not surprised at all /r/Australia has gone to shit. I unsubbed a while ago, just became a huge "abbott is bad" circlejerk.

[–]hungarian_conartist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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It gets really bad, in that threads which have nothing to do with politics would still somehow become a 'hurr, DAE else hate tone abet' circlejerk in the comments.

[–]redditbots 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

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(mirror | open source | create your own snapshots)

[–]keklyf 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

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Wow, CJA brigadiers brigade post about their takeover of the sub they brigade. Wouldn't have picked that

[–]redpingShortus Eucalyptus 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Eat downvotes cretin!

[–]fauxmosexual 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

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This just confirms how superior /r/newzealand and /r/nzcirclejerk are. Get rekt straya.

[–]bjthecool3 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Can't go a post about Australia without a kiwi turning up to display their inferiority complex.

[–]Superamazingname 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

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"Drama down-under in /r/Australia..." You... I like you. But in all seriousness that is just one of the stupidest things I've seen. It's like making moderators of SRS moderators of any other subreddit in existence.

[–]andrewinmelbourne 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

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This is crazy!

[–]spatchcock 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

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I just wanted you to see this. It perfectly sums up my reaction to everything that has happened today.

Also fuck those /r/circlejerkaustralia users! I'm an /r/australian with an opinion I think they are cunts!

BTW DAE think ISIL is just a creation by Tone Abbet?

[–]OptimalCynic 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

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I think what Doggie, and a lot of other frequent cobbers are wondering is, WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED?

Posted from an account that's an hour old...

[–]131531 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

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Oh doggie plz...