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So weird that another Anthrax event happens before another Patriot Act vote. (cnn.com)

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[–]kgt5003 108ポイント109ポイント  (85子コメント)

I don't think anthrax is going to change public opinion about bulk data collection or warrantless seizure of phone records. The overwhelming majority of Americans are and will remain against that shit. Members of Congress might say this is another reason that the Patriot Act needs to be pushed thru again but the American people aren't as afraid as they were after 9-11-2001 and when the Patriot Act gets renewed in its current form it will be against the wishes of the voting public who Congress is supposed to be representing.

[–]tek4wiseman 57ポイント58ポイント  (20子コメント)

Additionally, how would the patriot act help us to protect ourselves from our government "accidentally" sending out anthrax to itself?

[–]fakeyero 11ポイント12ポイント  (19子コメント)

If the government could do it accidentally, imagine how easily someone (else) with evil intentions could do it intentionally and endanger Americans world wide. We need the Patriot Act to keep us safe (from ourselves)!

I can see how it might go...

[–]jinqsi 6ポイント7ポイント  (16子コメント)

What the fuck. haha If our government can go to the moon the terrorists can go to the moon! I will be suspicious if the media starts asking, "If our government can accidentally send Anthrax, wouldn't it be easy for the terrorists?" because that thought is completely idiotic.

[–]Manaspider 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's even worse when in reality anthrax is everywhere. I mean everywhere.Dig a hole in your yard it's there. it lives in soil. That's why after floods there are usually some cases of it that show up in livestock primarily. Though Its spores are highly infectious and We know that it can live dormant for at least 30 years it is no longer a reportable disease in livestock because it's old hat. IT needs access to a living anaerobic environment then it becomes activated and pathogenic. Treated in time with I believe and don't quote me on this, penicillin G i think, you should survive if you catch it early enough. I just find it odd we can be so afraid of something that literally is everywhere around us just like tetanus. Which is also funny that we vaccinate ourselves for tetanus when we are pretty much unlikely to get it unless we are eating dirt and rubbing it into our wounds and in the event we get it we'll likely survive every time with some supportive care and antibiotics.

[–]vascya 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Better ban the moon or else terrorists will be sending anthrax to everyone from there.

[–]fakeyero -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's not the production or acquisition of Anthrax, just the ease with which it can be transported to anybody, anywhere.

[–]jinqsi 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's pretty easy to send anything in the mail...

[–]fakeyero 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

And that's what makes it scary for the average ignorant person.

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    [–]tek4wiseman 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I've heard some pretty big whoppers from the government but I really can't see a line of thinking that makes any sense in which you can justify the patriot act based on government fuck ups. "Well ya see we need to have this shit to watch all of you guys because we're so inept we sent anthrax to ourselves on accident.... and it's to protect you against terrorists even though you're far more likely to be killed by your own house furniture (but don't worry we're working on tracking your couch too) and infinitely more likely to be killed by our civillian military, oops i mean police force."

    [–]makeplayz 18ポイント19ポイント  (47子コメント)

    Guess that means it's false flag time then, huh? Which city gets nuked?

    [–]vbullinger 8ポイント9ポイント  (22子コメント)

    Well, I doubt that happens, but if it does?

    Chicago. I'm not kidding.

    [–]NSA_web_spider 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

    My money is on Detroit, with ISIS coming over the bridge from Canada. The best part about it is, that they could put pictures of the ruin and devastation on the news without even having to use up any ordinance.

    That would give them an excuse to give GM a whack of dough to replace the headquarters which will have exploded from a ISIS lit terror fire (in which many would die but all the senior execs would miraculously be on retreat).

    [–]Lord_ThunderCunt 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Shit. That's where I keep all my stuff.

    [–]theinfin8 3ポイント4ポイント  (17子コメント)

    Why does everyone keep saying Chicago? I'm about to mover there :/

    [–]ocherthulu 2ポイント3ポイント  (8子コメント)

    i second this question, this is the first i have heard of it

    [–]superwiseme 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Chicago is a big city. They have a pizza style, they invented a type of blues, they had the World's Fair in 1893.......

    [–]Selkie_Song 10ポイント11ポイント  (5子コメント)

    They have a pizza style, pizza is italian, so is spaghetti, but it was brought there from china, china is in asia, asia includes japan, we nuked japan twice, a nuke in chicago would be 3, HALF-LIFE 3 CONFIRMED.

    [–]Manaspider 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    They haven't stolen enough water from the great lakes yet to nuke Chicago and make it all unusable. That's what I'm banking on anyway.

    [–]Selkie_Song 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Lake Michigan is a decade away from an aquatic wasteland. Give it time. Luckily, I have 3 others to choose from where I stand.

    [–]Manaspider 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah. Sorry to say I have to agree with you. Lake Michigan is garbage. Ill take as far north in Lake Superior as I can go into Canada. Still some nice spots up there.

    [–]FBISurveillanceVan69 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    https://youtu.be/3D97gwGlMFE

    [–]IAmLordFrieza 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This may be the greatest comment on Reddit.

    [–]desayunosaur 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Those bastards!!

    [–]DragonGT 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I almost got goosebumps when I read that, I had been having dreams based in the same city I'm constantly trying to escape. It involves a lot of water and very tall buildings. About the third time it happened, I asked a woman where we were and she said Chicago. Later on I'd dismissed the whole thing rationing there's no ocean near Chicago. Then I looked on a map.

    I may have subconsciously known lake Michigan was near Chicago but I had a very strange feeling, to say the least, seeing the city was just west of the lower bank.

    There was a ton of flooding and mass chaos, basically everyone just trying to escape the main, larger, square of buildings in Chicago.

    Obviously, I don't hold this with any real degree of concern but it was... interesting. The dreams were just awful

    Edit

    Here's an outline of the area eerily close to my dream. Water crashing in from the East, North was basically walled off and the same with the west. I don't remember structures preventing me from leaving, just that the only way out was the southeast corner, everyone was trying to make it to. The inner circle area was basically the holy grail of everyone in the city, all other paths were not an option.

    [–]demise87 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Crazy enough I have also had several dreams of big waves hitting my city and me rushing to a tree and trying to save myself.

    [–]Vornnash 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's kind of shitty bro and bankrupt.

    [–]Alcorr 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Largest city in the heartland of america, not on either of the coasts, a port city as well, super corrupt politicians that would facilitate such an event etc. etc.

    [–]vbullinger 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Larry Silverstein bought the Willis Tower...

    [–]rtropins 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Oh great...

    [–]IAmLordFrieza 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    We need to make a thread on that. Learn all we can, and spread it all around.

    [–]Kalysta 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Also the home city of our current president. If those behind the false flag also want to send a statement to Obama, this would be their best choice of city.

    [–]darkrxn 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Probably some place more liberal. Usually has a stronger effect. Not Boston or SF just more liberal than Chicago. IDK maybe Austin?

    [–]PlantCurious -2ポイント-1ポイント  (22子コメント)

    LOL. Try not to be totally hysterical.

    [–]makeplayz 0ポイント1ポイント  (21子コメント)

    but the American people aren't as afraid as they were after 9-11-2001

    If TPTB know this... something could happen.

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      [–]Kabuthunk 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      And Canada's right on the same track, pushing through C-51 despite nobody wanting it. Isn't this continent wonderful?

      [–]hex_rx 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      They still have a few days, let's see how bad they want to pass it.

      [–]LizzyKitten 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I think this is a form of two pronged attack. The anthrax itself as an 'example' of terrorism that needs to be controlled, but also as something else to take the spotlight and as much attention off of the patriot act as possible.

      [–]the_gradient_police 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I don't think anthrax is going to change public opinion.

      Other than a couple of worthless "letters to your senator", public opinion is never part of the equation. This is not how the lever works. They use the MSMs anthrax report to then turn to the people and say, "see there folks, you need us". It is NEVER about 'public opinion'. Elected leaders use the MSM as their public opinion barometer. It doesn't matter if it's all debunked, the MSM storyline is the reality for these people, nothing more.

      [–]OldSchoolNewRules 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Maybe if they had actually prevented it from happening. If anything it proves that data collection is useless.

      [–]coocookuhchoo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Also, for what it's worth, this is the first place I've heard of this. Not like some major news story is being created.

      [–]JamesColesPardon 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

      Sounds like we gotta rattle some cages.

      [–]kgt5003 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

      I actually live in the area where that Frein thing was going on. I know a few cops up here who were hunting for him (aka aimlessly hanging out getting overtime money while they shut entire towns down and blocked roads over a guy who was not a threat to the general public). Anyways it is pretty much common knowledge up here (although it gets dismissed as a rumor) that Frein shot the one officer for sleeping with his brother's wife. The officer who he killed was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. At any rate, it was not just a random shooting. It was targeted. The idea that Frein was a danger to the public so schools needed to be closed and towns needed to be on lockdown was bullshit. One of the guys I work with lives next door to a state police officer and that officer told him that the "rumors" were true and all of this is going to end up coming out in court.

      [–]JamesColesPardon 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

      Sounds about right. I was bein g tongue in cheek from that comment months ago because it was interesting - the media tried spinning it to get some people's attention and it didn't work becauae the story was stupid (and was wintery anyway and I think it was poor timing to get the Patriot/Militia crowd engaged).

      Last winter sucked. I'm sure you guys got fucked too.

      [–]kgt5003 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Yeah it was awful in NEPA. Not as bad as they got it in New England but there was a lot more shoveling than anyone needed and weeks at a time where the temps didn't get out of the single digits or low teens.

      [–]JamesColesPardon 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Exactly. Frein was a shitty play. A dud, if you will, from a Spindoctor frame of mind.

      [–]IAmLordFrieza 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

      We're having an exceptionally mild summer so far out here in Arizona, so whatever the cause, the climate is changing everywhere. I predict another harsh winter this year for the East Coast.

      [–]JamesColesPardon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Oh, I'm already preparing for it. I think it's gonna be nutso.

      [–]RightOnTopOfThatRose 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Now the media (propaganda machine) will use their airtime for this false flag event / propaganda instead of reporting on the patriot act legislation.

      The ban on using propaganda on the American citizens was lifted years ago.

      http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/14/u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans/

      [–]kerosion 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Members of Congress might say this is another reason that the Patriot Act needs to be pushed thru again but the American people aren't as afraid as they were after 9-11-2001

      I think my complacency when the Patriot Act first went in had less to do about fear, than an expectation that while our politicians take bribes hand over fist they weren't downright evil enough to pass some of the things we've found that are in there. I had an unfounded faith that at a bare minimum we could expect our politicians to uphold constitutional values, or fight bitterly for them.

      That was foolish to think that every ambiguity in the Patriot Act wouldn't be leveraged as far as a legal team with unlimited budget could innovate.

      [–]IAmLordFrieza 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      We all had to compare and contrast our beliefs about our country and the reality of the situation. I can't imagine anyone feeling anything but abandonment and depression.

      [–]jinqsi 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I don't think the military coming out and saying, "We fucked up and accidentally sent anthrax" is at all going to scare the public into saying, "Alright alright! You can have my dick pics!"

      [–]owenyorkstudios 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Lol. There's a whole line of jokes in here...

      [–]Taylorswiftfan69 44ポイント45ポイント  (40子コメント)

      So how would the US military sending live anthrax to research laboratories warrant the extension of the Patriot Act?

      [–]Kaisernegro 4ポイント5ポイント  (25子コメント)

      because the patriot act protects us! something attacks us, push something that protects us! Clearly this is the solution to all of our problems and I don't see why it's taking so god damn long to protect us from ourselves.

      [–]Taylorswiftfan69 26ポイント27ポイント  (22子コメント)

      This isn't an attack though. Live samples were mistakenly sent to labs around the world. The Patriot Act is irrelevant in this situation.

      [–]shadowofashadow 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

      It's a psychological term called anchoring

      All they have to do is mention it again and it brings back all types of memories that have been anchored to that thing.

      [–]verdantmiles 3ポイント4ポイント  (14子コメント)

      I don't necessarily agree this is a ploy, but they are correct in that this is how propaganda is done. One means of propaganda is to create a situation which is a different situation but makes you think of a past situation, allowing you to feel as you did in the past situation - scared.

      Example, anthrax scare. That reminds people of the past anthrax scares. How can we avoid terrorists attacks with anthrax like that again? Thankfully the government is here to keep me safe.

      Again, NOT saying this is what happened but it is entirely how propaganda programs function. A fearful population is one of the easiest to control and manipulate.

      [–]toastyseeds 4ポイント5ポイント  (11子コメント)

      "thankfully the government is here to keep me safe"

      If this was propaganda why would they choose to make themselves look bad? If they're trying to promote their own agenda and make themselves look like they're the hero we need, not the one we want, I don't get why they would make themselves appear incompetent.

      [–]darkrxn 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I feel like most instances where the government curtailed privacy was really the government making them self look incompetent. I can only name a few times but it's usually like 9/11.

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        [–]NSA_web_spider 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Neurons that fire together, wire together. Anthrax = terror.

        [–]verdantmiles 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Great expression and true.

        [–]shoziku 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        It's not an attack now, but this mistake can let us know there is anthrax in the wild now and any boogeyman could have it and use it against us.

        [–]less_wrong 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I think you replied to a sarcastic post.

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          [–]gangrenous_ghoul 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Can you speak up I can't hear you because my tinfoil hat is so thick.

          [–]Kaisernegro 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Dude, take that shit off. It only reverberates and increases the signals they're beaming at you!

          [–]Im_a_wet_towel 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Sh. This is /r/conspiracy, it doesn't have to make any sense.

          [–]HeilHilter -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

          Too reinforce to the public needs Patriot Act to protect from bad guys because if the government can make an oopsie then the big bad terrorists can make something worse.

          [–]ctrl_all_del 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Well the Patriot Act hasn't expired so how is it protecting us?

          [–]HeilHilter 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          It isn't, it's all a sham

          [–]Juicedid9111 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          It doesn't but that wont stop r/conspiracy from making a connection

          [–]ronintetsuro -3ポイント-2ポイント  (7子コメント)

          You're vastly underestimating the spin capabilities of news networks and how eager gullible Americans are to believe the television if they believe nothing else.

          [–]G_Platypus 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

          I don't think the people outside the sub are the gullible ones with this story.

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            [–]hermes23 128ポイント129ポイント  (59子コメント)

            It makes sense. The mere mention of anthrax subconsciously refreshes the traumatic memories of 9/11. It also reactivates the "alter state" created by the trauma of the event in the general American psyche, allowing those who would manipulate us to nudge the group-mind into the same thought pattern that allowed them to pass the legislation in the first place.

            [–]blacksunalchemy 64ポイント65ポイント  (7子コメント)

            I actually think the event makes the government look incompetent and brings into question our ability to manage things like this.

            So instead of instilling fear in the public, it's actually going to do the opposite and piss people off instead.

            And make us think, well if they can't handle this, then they can't handle bulk data collection via the NSA.

            [–]EverGreenPLO 51ポイント52ポイント  (4子コメント)

            You drastically underestimate the average Americans attention span or critical thinking ability.

            [–]blacksunalchemy 25ポイント26ポイント  (3子コメント)

            Did you mean to say overestimate?

            [–]45flight2 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

            they underestimate how bad it is

            [–]dixiedevil 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            at least they are admitting to it this time

            [–]In_Defilade 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            You are looking at this critically. The average statist bases their opinion on emotion.

            [–]tek4wiseman 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

            But they're not blaming this on terrorists... they're literally saying "whoops the government fucked up"

            [–]IAmNotHariSeldon 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

            It's more scary to legislators. Remember 2001 when anthrax from a government lab was sent to people opposing the PATRIOT act.

            [–]e39dinan 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            As an aside, I'm reading the second foundation book. Great reading!

            [–]I_Kick_Puppies_Hard 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Link plz?

            [–]thegr8rambino13 11ポイント12ポイント  (34子コメント)

            mhm. but we're onto them. we know their dirty tricks and shenanigans

            [–]JamesColesPardon 47ポイント48ポイント  (22子コメント)

            A mind numbingly small percentage.

            [–]thegr8rambino13 7ポイント8ポイント  (17子コメント)

            Its better than none at all

            [–]JamesColesPardon 4ポイント5ポイント  (14子コメント)

            Well, of course.

            [–]SummerSoldier 1ポイント2ポイント  (13子コメント)

            Non-related issue: A bit new to this sub. What does the flair you have there mean?

            [–]asuicidalclown 5ポイント6ポイント  (11子コメント)

            Bohemian Club

            [–]JamesColesPardon 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

            Weaving spiders come not here.

            [–]omenofdread 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

            The owl is a predator that can see it's prey in the darkness, through it's superior eyesight. It usually strikes from above, while it's victim is completely oblivious. The owl has extensive symbolism.

            [–]SummerSoldier 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Huh. How'd you get it?

            [–]JamesColesPardon 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            It just means I have an owl, that's all. His name is Winston.

            Greetings, SummerSoldier. I expect to meet more of you soon.

            [–]Mrg13 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Unless those are all misdirection!

            Smoke and mirrors....

            [–]thegr8rambino13 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Nah when the enemy does a tactic repeatedly they show their cards or some of their strategy and so we can catch it quickly next time they try it

            [–]In_Defilade 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

            A small percentage yes, but it's growing.

            [–]sizzletron 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            A mind numbingly pants-peeingly small percentage.

            My mind doesn't get numb. My pants get soiled. Pretty late in the game.

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              [–]onlnpkr 9ポイント10ポイント  (8子コメント)

              knowledge is a burden to those that lack sufficient power.

              edit: (knowledge is power). edit: sufficient

              [–]thegr8rambino13 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

              Meaning?

              [–]fitzdfitzgerald 15ポイント16ポイント  (5子コメント)

              Knowing something without the ability to do anything about it is frustrating.

              [–]TheGoodTheBadTheRekt 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

              You can say that again.

              [–]fitzdfitzgerald 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Knowing something without the ability to do anything about it is frustrating.

              [–]JamesColesPardon 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

              It can make you go crazy and accuse someone of being a robot and be completely serious.

              I did that. And stand by that - that account is a fucking robot, man.

              [–]thegr8rambino13 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Yeaaa

              [–]thegr8rambino13 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Actually, we always have the ability to do at least one thing: spread awareness. It's kinda what this whole sub does! Lol

              [–]Th3FashionP0lice 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

              knowledge is a burden to those that refuse to take power.

              FTFY

              [–]Sacrament0 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

              "We" doesn't really encompass enough people to make a big enough difference.

              [–]Citizen01123 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

              Didn't one of Obama's cabinet members author a book called Nudge that is about covertly influencing people toward one direction or another, rather than overtly compelling or forcing them?

              [–]Citizen01123 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Nudge: Improving Decisions About Health, Wealth and Happiness by Richard H. Thaler and Cass R. Sunstein, the head of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs from 2009-2012 About Nudge via Amazon

              Nudge is about choices—how we make them and how we can make better ones. Drawing on decades of research in the fields of behavioral science and economics, authors Richard H. Thaler and Cass R. Sunstein offer a new perspective on preventing the countless mistakes we make—ill-advised personal investments, consumption of unhealthy foods, neglect of our natural resources—and show us how sensible “choice architecture” can successfully nudge people toward the best decisions. In the tradition of The Tipping Point and Freakonomics, Nudge is straightforward, informative, and entertaining—a must-read for anyone interested in our individual and collective well-being.

              Edit: Spell

              [–]diagnosedADHD 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

              Meh, it just seems like a coincidence to me, it would only evoke anything negative if they said that it was intentionally done. Shit happens. This news only makes the pentagon and the cdc look bad. This is what makes their narrative so potent, not all news is manufactured, so it becomes extremely difficult to discern reality from narrative. That is until the events have passed, like the 2001 anthrax attacks, and you realize how sketchy the coverage was.

              [–]Jag_Slave 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              If anything, this severe mishap will just make an excuse to strengthen and regulate even more.

              [–]En0ch_Root 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

              The mere mention of anthrax subconsciously refreshes the traumatic memories of 9/11.

              Why? The two events are completely unrelated. The 2001 anthrax attacks were directed at media outlets and Senators. While I in no way agree with it, it makes sense that someone would be disgusted enough with having no voice as to do something like that. There was no threat to "civilians". No one's gonna mail anthrax to 1200 random people. On the other hand, the events of 9/11 could have happened in any city, this is much more ominous.

              [–]hermes23 -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

              They may be unrelated events consciously but subconsciously those two attacks are completely intertwined. 9/11 was a mind control exercise (amongst many things) that was so overwhelmingly traumatic that it can now be subconsciously refreshed to create a low level background fear state that makes us more pliable.

              [–]DiscoLollipop 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

              The mere mention of anthrax subconsciously refreshes the traumatic memories of 9/11.

              Yes, my local news made sure to point out and remind people that there were anthrax attacks back in 2001. They might be pushing the anthrax vaccine soon too.

              [–]losermoderator 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              well said.

              [–]Love_And_Light33Autism Awareness 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

              This is exactly right. Anthrax will stimulate latent fears in our subconscious. This stimulation WILL alter people's consciousness. The elite have manipulation down to science.

              [–]hermes23 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Well it only works if you are unaware of it, if you know what to look for you can laugh it off. Its important to remember that we're winning the consciousness battle. 14 years ago they could pull off gigantic events like 9/11, now the best they can do is get a security guard shot in the ankle at an art show. Their power is fading fast

              [–]onlnpkr 20ポイント21ポイント  (4子コメント)

              If we had a "free" press in this country we could start by asking three questions. 1) why was this material shipped now, and for what purpose? 2) when was the anthrax originaly tested to determine it was inert? 3) what triggered the need for retesting after the anthrax was shipped?

              [–]Dtrain323i 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

              1) From what I heard yesterday, it was being shipped to research labs

              2) No idea

              3) Also no idea but it could be standard procedure.

              [–]Maxwyfe 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Wouldn't that be nice?

              [–]omenofdread 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

              4) how the fuck is it possible for something as dangerous as anthrax to be shipped to the wrong places? 5) Who is going to be held accountable?

              [–]darkrxn 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I know of really incompetent scientists, especially "stamp collecting" (microbiology) and they have screwed up even with multiple checks. They put dry ice labels all over a box and forget to mail it with dry ice inside, they even write the weight of the dry ice on the box. They ship something for Boston to California or vice versa, they ship something for company A in Maryland to company B in Maryland and they are competitive companies, all of this is human biopsy tissue that goes bad because what, is the person who receives the package going to open it, add more dry ice, fill out a new shipping label, and send it to the right address? Like any job, if the boss likes them, they can get past making that mistake a few times and get promoted. If the boss doesn't like you, you're fired for not using the right cover sheet on your faxes. You're asking how the DoD mails live Anthrax to the wrong address. I'm asking why the DoD hires H1B visa scientist when there are US military veterans with science degrees out of work.

              [–]Old_School_New_Age 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I'm starting to feel bad for those who don't recognize the dual facts that Police State has arrived along with the Fascist Oligarchy.

              We are well and truly fucked.

              [–]Lizards_live 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I remember this scare...yeah and duct tape over the closet doors cracks will protect you from a chemical weapons attack. The shit is strong with these people.

              [–]TheExtroll 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

              And the patriot act failed to stop this lol

              [–]Edgarallenpo_boy 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

              They were a solid act!!! Are they touring again? I heard the original lead singer was back....

              [–]Ef0rc3 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

              If you've watched the second captain America it has great reference to what we are dealing with. Dr Arnim Zola said "HYDRA was founded on the belief that humanity could not be trusted with its own freedom. What we did not realize was that if you tried to take that freedom, they resist. The war taught us much. Humanity needed to surrender its freedom willingly."

              [–]omenofdread 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Americans are terrified of freedom. People might steal from them, put them in cages, or kill them! So they grant the power to steal, imprison, and kill to a select group of people. Where one man would be found guilty of a crime and tried, two or more can commit the same crime and face no retribution! I could waterboard my grandmother and I'd be guilty of torture. I could take 30% of your income but I'd be guilty of theft. I could travel to Iraq and kill an Iraqi, but I'd be guilty of murder.

              "Sure, but... " doesn't make any of that right.

              [–]wildcatsnbacon 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

              I'm supposed to be immune to the shit. Man those shots hurt.

              [–]funknut 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Don't you have to be super special to get Vaccinated?

              [–]Glitchypink 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

              It wouldn't be the first fuck up from the Pentagon. Remember on 9/11 when their security cameras stopped working?

              [–]omenofdread 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Miraculously so did every other camera surrounding the building.

              [–]NAM007 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

              It's like a signal saying "don't forget what we're capable of"..

              [–]ct_warlock 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

              Incompetence?

              We already knew that about the government!

              [–]conzorz 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I remember someone posting here a while back, speculating that exactly this would happen to push the vote.

              [–]ganooosh 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

              http://video.foxnews.com/v/4184909385001/former-agent-claims-fbi-concealing-evidence-in-anthrax-case/?#sp=show-clips

              Former FBI agent claims FBI concealing evidence in 9/2001 anthrax case. ( 4/2015 )

              In other words, 14 years later and the case is not solved.

              [–]omenofdread 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Sure it is. The patsy is dead, therefore no investigation is necessary.

              [–]GoonCommaThe 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

              So did none of y'all even bother to read the title of the linked article? Because this wasn't a terrorist attack at all, and no one is claiming it is.

              [–]RageMojo 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

              Why do we have so much Anthrax in the first goddamn place? Why is no one asking those questions? How much research do we need to do on illegal biological weapons.

              [–]GoonCommaThe 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

              A lot. Do you think other countries just stop researching these things? Would you prefer that we know nothing about them?

              [–]_Tyler_Durden_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              The cognitive dissonance of some Americans (although I suspect this is a universal human condition) never ceases to amaze me. Even though we're the largest manufacturer/owner of chemical weaponry, you still found a way to transfer the burden to other countries.

              [–]RageMojo -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

              Use your brains, we have been studying it since we discovered it in the late 1800's. We have been studying it under the guise of weaponized versions since the end of WW2. Should we continue to study it, yes where needed. But we dont need multiple labs working on it, where it is being shipped around. Do you have any idea how fucking nonsensical that is? Who exactly do you think is going to attack you with anthrax? The most likely candidate would be the US government. We already have an Anthrax vaccine, so what is it exactly they are working on?

              [–]PlantCurious 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Why is it "so weird?"

              How could a mishap by some lab employees in Utah possibly have any bearing on the patriot act vote? The patriot act does nothing to prevent lab mistakes and lab mistakes could not possibly make anyone think we need the patriot act. If you're going to cook up a wild theory, it should at least make something resembling sense.

              [–]BransonBombshell 1ポイント2ポイント  (21子コメント)

              I just want to remind you all that 12 days ago I predicted:

              "I've got "terrorists" apprehended at major airport with "explosives"

              And over Memorial Day Weekend, there were reports of "threats" made against commercial aircraft at US airports. Here is one report

              Edit: I thought those complaints about trolls and shills and vote brigades were just butt-hurtitude, but I can now see your point.

              [–]case9 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

              So your prediction was wrong?

              [–]stopthathurtsit 2ポイント3ポイント  (18子コメント)

              Are you claiming to be psychic? I'm asking sincerely.

              [–]xaali 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

              I think he's implying that the pattern is getting predictable of how false flag attacks are attempted to sway public opinion

              [–]GoonCommaThe 5ポイント6ポイント  (7子コメント)

              This wasn't a false flag attack. It wasn't a terrorist attack and no one is claiming it is. Did you even read the article?

              [–]xaali -3ポイント-2ポイント  (6子コメント)

              Read the rest of the comments. It's about something called 'anchoring' in a way for this event to remind us of the anthrax events during 9/11 among other things.

              Anyways I was just saying what I thought the other user was implying, which he later commented that my guess was accurate.

              You seem unnecessarily defensive...

              [–]GoldenTruth 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

              Dude...just read the article next time.

              Please. It makes for better discussion here when people actually read.

              [–]GoonCommaThe -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

              That logic is idiotic. If the government wanted to remind people of the anthrax mailings in your conspiracy world, they would do an actual false flag. What they would not do is go "Hey guys, we fucked up pretty bad and sent dangerous things to our allies. Let us protect you from terrorists". There is zero logic in doing that.

              [–]xaali 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I never said this is what is happening. Why don't you argue with the comments that originally said this? My comment was just my guess on what someone else was implying... Your replies to me make no sense.

              But if you want my opinion so badly, I do think it makes sense that this can remind Americans of that stuff. But at the same time as another comment said this just does make the Government look irresponsible however I think they could easily force the news to not say anything. The fact that there is so much coverage is a bit telling. Regardless I don't know what makes the most sense because I don't know how the average American thinks, they are pretty dumb though.

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                [–]fruityfloops 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Wow, that accurate prediction.

                You're a top mind of reddit

                [–]glugglug 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                "Inadvertently", LOL, Oops!

                [–]dmareddit 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                The government admitted fault on this though so no boogey-man to be afraid of sadly.

                [–]losferwords 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Evil is stupid.

                [–]know_comment 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                this honestly sounds like a really stupid mistake.

                [–]Cthulhuman 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I noticed that the day after the filibuster Fox news did a story about bin laden

                [–]Ago_Solvo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Not really, this is another black eye for the government. This just makes the government and our military look even more incompetent. "So you're telling me, you shipped anthrax samples you thought were dead. Uh, yeah. But they weren't dead, they were alive. Ummm.... And you sent them via UPS?"

                [–]Gaddpeis 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Is Anthrax that easy to make? Can any Tom, Dick or Harriet make it in their basement?

                [–]RazsterOxzine 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Shhh... Media is trying to scare the old people who watch TV and news. Don't let them know.

                [–]cj5 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                It's just baby powder.

                Anthrax event: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f6/d0/63/f6d0639cbf138e4d4bb6d6b2261bb0c3.jpg

                [–]Bigbrotherxp 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Everybody do the propaganda.

                [–]Eurotrashie 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Ah, the old "shipping Anthrax in the mail routine" - it worked so well with the first version of the USA PATRIOT Act.

                [–]Rowdy_Batchelor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                This isn't an "Anthrax event," it's a lab fucking up.

                [–]RedxEyez 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                No it isn't cause it's a government fuck up and they maned up to it. Not some kind of foiled terrorist attack.

                [–]griph00k 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I don't really see why they would admit it was a mistake by the pentagon if they were going for the fear mongering angle

                [–]poliwop 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Nice fear mongering OP, this was not an event, but a mistake that the government is actually - shockingly - owning up to. It's almost as if you didn't even read the article nor watch the video that you linked to.

                [–]washburn158 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                ANthrax damn what else are they shipping via ups? Alien bodys?

                [–]glugglug 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I figured out what the real accident was - they accidentally used their own return address.

                [–]Guyote_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                In my experiences, there is no such thing as coincidences.

                [–]comet3popeye 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Mail me that pussy ass Anthrax. I'll do a big old fucking gacker of that shit.

                [–]Rountree1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                lol you people are goddamn lunatics.

                [–]filfy_toad 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Isn't this just a sign that it doesn't work?

                [–]fcewen00 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                What I'm curious about is why in the hell were we sending any anthrax to an air station in South Korea to begin with.

                [–]KhalifaKidV2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                FEMA region 3

                [–]SheriffofBanshee 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                It was mistakenly shipped, not stolen and unrecovered. You're just fear mongering for karma.

                [–]TBomberman 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                "The shipments happened over a one-year period between March 2014 and March of this year."

                [–]mentallo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Blah blah dee blah blah

                [–]scramtek 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                It was a prank bro.

                [–]Harbltron 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                The timing may be odd, but this seems like a textbook fuck-up of Herculean magnitude.

                [–]Azekual 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                This doesnt seem like a plot, more like someone fucked up.

                Seriously, they arent blaming anyone. The Federal Government stepped up and said it fucked up. That makes for bad false flagging

                [–]RamenRider 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Other times in the past 2 decades they tried to pass the Patriot Act with False Flags including 9/11. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjIpJRntMLQ

                [–]spottedcows 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Why does this pertain to the Patriot Act? I ask this in earnest as I'm usually good at connecting the dots.

                [–]onlnpkr 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                People need to be motivated. That is all.

                [–]tight_lips_tony 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Just say no to Anthrax.

                [–]owenyorkstudios 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                What the fuck? I am glad people are waking up to the tactics, though. Stage an event and try to scare people into allowing our freedoms to be taken away. We're onto you!

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